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Topic: Do online casinos disadvantage some locations from winning big - page 7. (Read 1431 times)

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Knowing too well, most gambling site has their restricted areas of withdrawal or limitations of amount which a user can be able to withdraw from the sites. If it happens that your location is limited or restricted then you can actually use ip or vpn to access site from restrictions location. To me I will advise to make sure to read their terms and conditions before engaging yourself otherwise you might allowed to withdraw.
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?
i dont think any casino will do this or currently doing it, if you know any or the casinos involved in this kind of act, then maybe you should mention them here so that gamblers will take care from gambling on such casinos.

Such an act to me is unlawful, unfair and shouldn't be taken lightly if a gambler finds out, just imagine after loosing so much on a casino and one day, luck decides to smile at you and a game you were supposed to win lets say $50k, the casino cut it down to $1,500 all in the name of not wanting to get involved in a legal matter because such an amount is too big based on the location or region you are gambling from, how would you feel ? it is absolutely unfair to the gambler and if any casino does such to me, I will drag them to court.
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And that is where cryptocurrencies will come in.
This is also the reason why online gambling sites are being targeted by money laundering schemes and so the other reason why the government keeps an eye on them.
Locations with strict amounts about how much it can pay out are a drag for those who can really bet big.
But right now, there are options to just play in a physical casino instead of online because most of them are opening again. In there, I don't think they will be limited by such small amounts.
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

That's an interesting topic and theory why did you think that casinos are resorting to this, even if its a speculation there should be a basis, is it because you are not winning big and there are people you know from other locations that win big amounts, we really never know unless there is something like an exposee or a reliable data but the question who will do a study of the data, I'd like to believe that we all have a fair chance and it's not about location, it's hard to think the other way.
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I don't think so they will intentionally so this because there's some really restriction in other country I guess you saw a slot.games and tons of people.make a huge wins in that game so you came up with that idea. Actually most likely restrictions happen if the country limits those accessibility and at the same time is not yet authorized to release their games in that country.
If that casino supports VPN why not you can freely use those to access these games.
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

Good question, but I guess casinos won't bother to pay more to program a specific location where they limit a payout for users located in that particular territory, because they can do it generally if they want to. Besides, VPN can be very helpful in this matter.
Unfortunately, this will eliminate the "provably fair" motto for most of the casinos. And, we don't exactly know whether or not the algorithm their using is fair enough for both the casino and their clients.
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That’s slot machine and probably the casinos are using something to limit the number of winners or else, many will make money if they didn’t control it and that mat cause them a bankruptcy. Casinos knows how to win always and that’s the reality even if the authority asked them for this, they can easily defend that because that’s how gambling works and we have to deal with that.

For slot machines, of course, they can set the RTP so that they will have all the advantage, i.e. house edge.

But as far as the premise of the OP, I totally disagree with it, casino's will and should not go that extent, it's already cheating per se. Again, they can set up everything to favor them, but I doubt that they will cheat it that way. Let the house edge win the game for them. Because as the longer we play, the higher the chances that we are going to lose.
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If it is a local casino, they may use it to limit the amount of money the winner can withdraw or limit the winning money that the gambler can win. But if it's from a casino site, I think it will be difficult but the casino can easily not allow the winner to withdraw his winnings and use various excuses not to pay his winnings.

And if it happens at a local casino, maybe the winner can report it to the local government to investigate so that the authority can ask the casino and the winner can get the total winnings. But I also do not understand legal issues like this.
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You have sense, I thought I was the only one thinking this. It did not start with online casinos, it started with online trading and betting on the markets, there are some countries they dare not trash with, or else, they would regret it. The advanced countries are peculiar to better perks and treatments, and in case you didn't know, you might think you guys are betting on the same platform, but they often redirect them to their different sites/platforms.

Different service/treatments to different regions, this is not just happening. It even happens among fiat payment systems to show how peculiar it is.
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?
I've never found this in the T&C of any of the casinos because if they implemented this without including it in the T&C players would accuse it of cheating on the part of the casino.
But I think there is no such thing because the max win applied in a slot game is enough to limit the player's winnings because the amount that will be obtained will depend on the value of the bet.
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One of the things that we gamblers hate besides delayed withdrawal, and if there is a hint of manipulation, we hate all forms of manipulation, it could be on the seed, on the provably fair, or anything, no gamblers will play if they find out that the casino manipulated their results not to favor your country to win big, it's worse than delayed payment because you already lose a chance to win big by casino manipulating the results through location, but so far there is no accusation of that sort.
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But then there are many gamblers who are playing from non-allowed regions by using VPN and do not get caught. (Or gambling houses don't care as long as people are depositing and playing).
But that is never a good idea, the person can fall victim of his own mistake if already included in the ToS of the gambling site that no VPN is allowed, or if he part of the people from a country not allowed to make use of the gambling site.
I heard many time website don't allow users for using VPNs, so if the user using another trick like DNS, is this problem?. The big problem with gambling sites is they live in countries with don't allow users who have enthusiasm for gambling, I hope in the future this big problem solved with an MOU between them.
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?
I doubt it because that is not really the problem of the casino, if you win big at a casino it is your responsibility as a tax payer to declare that income, depending on where you are located that money could be tax-free or you could need to pay a percentage of those profits to the government, but the casino has nothing to do with that process.

Also it seems way more simple for a casino to ban players coming from some countries where laws are very strict than to somehow modify and adjust their games to give out different payouts depending on the country at which their players reside.
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I don't think this companies would do such thing as the consequences they know wouldn't be funny.
Just as my mate@pierre said that, the doors are rather shot at some nationalities with tight control of wealth and I agree with him because, even without the said algorithm, they could still make alot of money rather than risking the company's reputation
A lot of people here are answering with utter nonsense,

You really don't have to condemn wat others have to say since you as well don't have a concrete answer to this
Everyone who made a comment, I guess were trying to assist the OP get clarity on the question he just asked
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I think they don't do such things but they rather limit a player from that kind of region. Some regions especially south America and Middle East obviously, can have tight controls on wealth. This is very disruptive for a gambling business. So this is my opinion though, they go directly to block these nationalities at door. I feel so sad about people from those regions, having huge issues just to play slots.
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The OP has not been very successful with his hunch, because it is nothing more than a hunch.

A casino can make a lot of money without doing weird things like he posits, if it is able to attract enough players (through advertising) and able to keep them coming back (by providing them with a good user experience, plus promos, etc.). Add to that a good management of funds and we see that online casinos are extremely profitable, just look at the gambling section of this forum and the signature campaigns.

They don't need to do weird things like the OP thinks,
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

A lot of people here are answering with utter nonsense, and I'm certainly not going to be one to act like they know for sure what the answer is here like some people are, but for what it's worth I've been told in the past there is a way for Casinos to show that their payouts are provably fair, though I completely forget how, I think it depends on the Casino.  But I'm curious what the true answer to this is just as much as you.
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?
Just like what the others have said above, it's possible but I doubt that the casino owners are willing to put some middle point on their geo-restrictions as they're usually one way or the other. And I think it's better that way since having small and limited payouts would just discourage the players to come back and play regularly when they're blocked off from potentially getting bigger wins and payouts.
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?
Wow. This is my first time hearing about this. They must put it on their Terms of Services (TOS). But if ever this is true, this is a big L for most online casinos.
But I don't think there are some issues with this if the customer is following their Terms Of Services (TOS). If customers agreed about doing some compliance process, they can do it. I believe these online casinos already have trigger or warning for some customers that will withdraw a huge amount off from their platform.
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I also don't think they will focus on manipulating the algo of their machines.
Because if someone got a hold of it, their reputation may be ruined and so their business.
That's subjective, each casino can do that but if they want to, they always should go with the automated process through the algo's code and they have no control over its result. They can just increase the chance for the house and decrease the chance for their players.

It is more on how they will attract their patrons and building credibility, where they will generate more income.
Remember, if the casino/bookie owners don't know what they are doing, their business won't stay long.
When they're already built and reputed, that's when they can change some policies and things that will be definitely favorable to them. But in terms of games, they're just getting it from their providers so they have no hold and touch on it.
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