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Quote from: KTChampions on January 25, 2023, 04:50:36 PM

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

I am sure that what you are describing is not only frowned upon by the authorities and casino regulators, but it is also quite illegal for casinos to do. I doubt any legitimate casino would try to risk their entire business over some extra profit. Especially when they are being controlled and hounded by people whos sole job it is to weed out bad actors in that particular business.

Don't get me wrong, I think casinos will try to do the sneakiest, dirtiest things to gain more profit but only when they are moving in a legal area. Rigging the games in such a way is undoubtedly not legal though. Shocked

Quite right. It is very strange to me that in general one would somehow think that some casino would do this and risk its reputation (on which the whole business is built). If the casino has difficult problems with the authorities of some countries, then it is more profitable for them to simply block access to users from these countries and do business where there are no problems. Coming up with criminal schemes to "solve" problems in troubled jurisdictions is an extremely ridiculous decision.

I follow that point, why risking your reputation by controlling something like thi and not just to completely block the access and not to allow people from jurisdicted area not to play. It's more logical to do business and established your reputation without any kind of risk like this, not sure though if the sites have that kind of issue.

But from a general point of view, if you want to established good business better to work without any issue with whatever that may rise along the way while managing your business.

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Quote from: 348Judah on December 22, 2022, 10:24:42 AM

Gamblers should stop and avoid looking for excuses to the failures for their winnings, there are no barriers be it small or big that can hinders a gambler from winning an online game henplayed, the ideology is simple, if you're good at doing it (gambling) there's high probabilities for you to win and if you jad problems with compliance to understand the ways it's been played, you may less have opportunities to win, location barrier should be in favour of those that are into offline gambling or casino house gamblings and not the online one.

I am still thinking why a company would want to limit the number of possible winners from a particular region because this look very irrational to me why without a good claim or fact.
Although this is just like an opinion which I have not seen any atom of possibility in it. If a company decided to limit the amount a gambler could win from a particular region thwn that means there is something wrong somewhere. That would never be accepted and I would see that as an act of racism which is a big offense on the international law.
This a lone cam attract a big sanctions if discovered. It would be an act against humanity and the reason would never be condoled.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on January 25, 2023, 01:53:50 PM

Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

I am sure that what you are describing is not only frowned upon by the authorities and casino regulators, but it is also quite illegal for casinos to do. I doubt any legitimate casino would try to risk their entire business over some extra profit. Especially when they are being controlled and hounded by people whos sole job it is to weed out bad actors in that particular business.

Don't get me wrong, I think casinos will try to do the sneakiest, dirtiest things to gain more profit but only when they are moving in a legal area. Rigging the games in such a way is undoubtedly not legal though. Shocked

Quite right. It is very strange to me that in general one would somehow think that some casino would do this and risk its reputation (on which the whole business is built). If the casino has difficult problems with the authorities of some countries, then it is more profitable for them to simply block access to users from these countries and do business where there are no problems. Coming up with criminal schemes to "solve" problems in troubled jurisdictions is an extremely ridiculous decision.

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 01, 2022, 05:37:35 AM

I don't think an online casino will restrict a player from winning big based on the country where he is playing from,that is why it's online so that the casino can be accessed from any part of the world. If a casino wants to restrict, they will restrict the gamblers from a particular country not the funds to be won. Though the casinos are always making profit because of the house hedge.

Indeed. Legal casinos seem never to restrict any gambler from winning big, it is an unfair way. They only limit the gamblers from a few countries because of certain reasons and limit the age of the gamblers to avoid negative impacts on the young generation. These are common limitations/restrictions, it is the right way to make gamblers play properly. I think everyone accepts these, it is already notified even before the gamblers register on the online casinos.

Anyway, I never heard any casino preventing gamblers from certain countries to win big prizes. I think it is just OP assumption, he doesn't really understand the restriction/limitation on online casinos.

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It is indeed an unfair way and we dont know if there are really that casinos who do have this kind of set up on treating up other countries or players who do reside into those places which does have stricter laws

and regulations in towards gambling casinos but if we do really see up on how things to be done then it is really that somewhat complicated on making some exemptions or trying out to alter
considering on how many users would be going in and out on a certain platform.

Its unlikely to have this kind of method or treatment in towards players who do play into those vicinities.

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 01, 2022, 05:37:35 AM

I don't think an online casino will restrict a player from winning big based on the country where he is playing from,that is why it's online so that the casino can be accessed from any part of the world. If a casino wants to restrict, they will restrict the gamblers from a particular country not the funds to be won. Though the casinos are always making profit because of the house hedge.

Indeed. Legal casinos seem never to restrict any gambler from winning big, it is an unfair way. They only limit the gamblers from a few countries because of certain reasons and limit the age of the gamblers to avoid negative impacts on the young generation. These are common limitations/restrictions, it is the right way to make gamblers play properly. I think everyone accepts these, it is already notified even before the gamblers register on the online casinos.

Anyway, I never heard any casino preventing gamblers from certain countries to win big prizes. I think it is just OP assumption, he doesn't really understand the restriction/limitation on online casinos.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

This is not going to be a factor in any normal casino operation. In that scenario the entire blame and required explanation would rest on the shoulders of the player, the casino would not have liability in that scenario. Casinos often ban entire countries if the rules of the country stipulate that gambling is illegal and KYC sort of verification enforces it to indirectly protect the players. I don't know of any countries that have a threshold that says, if you win over this monetary amount we will take certain legal actions against you - they're either all against gambling or not. A person breaking the law and evading registration restrictions would be the only person to blame in this scenario. You also slightly misrepresent the power that prosecutors have because that sort of overreach and dictating what companies do elsewhere is not the norm.

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Quote from: jostorres on January 25, 2023, 01:43:31 PM

They forcefully access it because these people are heavily addicted to gambling already and I think they already know what will be the consequences about it once they get caught out. It's either their winnings will get forfeited or worse they will be arrested because there are also gambling sites who ask for our KYC. They are lucky if they will still get paid but I think the condition is that the winnings are only be reduced.

I don't know if there are people who are sincere that they don't about the restriction and they can be those people who whine up. This is why it's important to be always up to date on the news whether it is local or international.

Most times, that is not the case. It is not because people are addicted to gambling is the reason why they choose to use a casino despite banning some countries, the thing is that some casinos and bookies have more lower lines than others ones, and the lower the lines, the easier are they for your predictions to come out to be true especially the sportsbook and also some casino has some feature that others don't have especially some other versatile option you may choose to bet or flex your bets.
For example, today alone, I have gambled in 3 betting platforms, not because I can't do it all in one place but there lower lines vary and I like to explore some other options in some sportsbooks that others do not have, after all, gambling is all about the fun and entertainments.

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Quote from: Mahanton on January 23, 2023, 06:29:35 PM

You would really be having some question on your mind that after all of the gambling sites available online on where you could choose from, then why there a re people who are really that eager on accessing sites which
they are strictly prohibited due to some law or something like that.Is this pertaining on the games offered? or simply they are really just that stubborn on where they do just like to deal up with things on what
interest them.This is why people do love on accessing out sites via VPN even if they do know that they are really that been blocked but still still trying out to access.
On the time that they've been caught then they do usually whine the most and telling that they havent done something wrong. LOOOOOL.

Another scenario that comes to mind about why people choose to play at casinos in which they have been forbidden to do so for some reason or another is that they have gambled at that casino before and lost, and now they want to recover that money as it has become a personal problem between them and the casino, and while it is understandable to get a little bit mad when you lose money it is incorrect to make this personal as the only one that will end up losing in such a quest for revenge is the gambler.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

I am sure that what you are describing is not only frowned upon by the authorities and casino regulators, but it is also quite illegal for casinos to do. I doubt any legitimate casino would try to risk their entire business over some extra profit. Especially when they are being controlled and hounded by people whos sole job it is to weed out bad actors in that particular business.

Don't get me wrong, I think casinos will try to do the sneakiest, dirtiest things to gain more profit but only when they are moving in a legal area. Rigging the games in such a way is undoubtedly not legal though. Shocked

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Quote from: Mahanton on January 23, 2023, 06:29:35 PM

You would really be having some question on your mind that after all of the gambling sites available online on where you could choose from, then why there a re people who are really that eager on accessing sites which
they are strictly prohibited due to some law or something like that.Is this pertaining on the games offered? or simply they are really just that stubborn on where they do just like to deal up with things on what
interest them.This is why people do love on accessing out sites via VPN even if they do know that they are really that been blocked but still still trying out to access.
On the time that they've been caught then they do usually whine the most and telling that they havent done something wrong. LOOOOOL.

They forcefully access it because these people are heavily addicted to gambling already and I think they already know what will be the consequences about it once they get caught out. It's either their winnings will get forfeited or worse they will be arrested because there are also gambling sites who ask for our KYC. They are lucky if they will still get paid but I think the condition is that the winnings are only be reduced.

I don't know if there are people who are sincere that they don't about the restriction and they can be those people who whine up. This is why it's important to be always up to date on the news whether it is local or international.

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Quote from: QueenVera on January 13, 2023, 01:43:49 PM

I don't really think a casino will limit a particular location because of any law and remember that every country that accept gambling already have a regulatory body that is responsible to enforcing fairness and transparency between the casino and it's users.
Before signing a license and accepting to abide by it, it simply means that the casino has to do that consciously which implies that they already have a representative and a legal team who must have reviewed all if those agreements and I'm sure that they have a maximum pay out stated and as long as winnings above the agreed amount if there is any isn't triggered, there wouldn't be any call for alarm

What actually happened was that some casinos banned their sites from being accessed by citizens of certain countries. Maybe it's because that country has laws prohibiting gambling activities or there are other things I don't know.
There are several countries whose governments strictly prohibit gambling activities in any form. However, citizens still do this by using a VPN or changing the browser's DNS so that they are not detected when entering gambling sites.
Even though there are already many sites that do not allow customers to access using a VPN, I think a gambler will ignore this prohibition so they can still play or bet on gambling sites.

You would really be having some question on your mind that after all of the gambling sites available online on where you could choose from, then why there a re people who are really that eager on accessing sites which
they are strictly prohibited due to some law or something like that.Is this pertaining on the games offered? or simply they are really just that stubborn on where they do just like to deal up with things on what
interest them.This is why people do love on accessing out sites via VPN even if they do know that they are really that been blocked but still still trying out to access.
On the time that they've been caught then they do usually whine the most and telling that they havent done something wrong. LOOOOOL.

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Quote from: QueenVera on January 13, 2023, 01:43:49 PM

I don't really think a casino will limit a particular location because of any law and remember that every country that accept gambling already have a regulatory body that is responsible to enforcing fairness and transparency between the casino and it's users.
Before signing a license and accepting to abide by it, it simply means that the casino has to do that consciously which implies that they already have a representative and a legal team who must have reviewed all if those agreements and I'm sure that they have a maximum pay out stated and as long as winnings above the agreed amount if there is any isn't triggered, there wouldn't be any call for alarm

What actually happened was that some casinos banned their sites from being accessed by citizens of certain countries. Maybe it's because that country has laws prohibiting gambling activities or there are other things I don't know.
There are several countries whose governments strictly prohibit gambling activities in any form. However, citizens still do this by using a VPN or changing the browser's DNS so that they are not detected when entering gambling sites.
Even though there are already many sites that do not allow customers to access using a VPN, I think a gambler will ignore this prohibition so they can still play or bet on gambling sites.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

No casino ever behaves in a private manner. It remains the same for everyone. There are some casinos that don't do anything illegal. As many casino sites have KYC mandatory so that the casino has a better idea about its clients. If those clients are in a restricted area, they will never be verified. In that case, location is important.

In another view there are also many casinos that only officially value KYC, but in reality it shows a different picture. They can manage the gambling beautifully from any location. It basically depends on the type or site of gambling you are doing. It is very important to wear their TOS thoroughly especially before the start of gambling.
”Online casinos make some locations suffer from big wins” in my perspective it is pointless to think something like that. Gambling companies will never do this kind of behavior.

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Quote from: 348Judah on December 22, 2022, 10:24:42 AM

Gamblers should stop and avoid looking for excuses to the failures for their winnings, there are no barriers be it small or big that can hinders a gambler from winning an online game henplayed, the ideology is simple, if you're good at doing it (gambling) there's high probabilities for you to win and if you jad problems with compliance to understand the ways it's been played, you may less have opportunities to win, location barrier should be in favour of those that are into offline gambling or casino house gamblings and not the online one.

Exactly. This is just it, no way around why people would think it's the house messing up with them and coveting their "well-deserved" wins from them. They make excuses for themselves and puts the blame on other people instead of taking accountability and owning up to their losses. Rookie mistake. Rule of thumb, if you gamble, don't gamble to win unless you're scarface or something. Gamble to have fun. Because gambling for profits will just disappoint you ten times over and may leave you addicted to getting that "one last clincher bet that will breakeven my losses"

Gambling for fun will give us a pleasant feeling that doesn't think about how we can win from that gambling game.
We have to realize that when we lose, it's because we're unlucky and not because the casino is preventing us from winning, let alone changing its algorithm to prevent players from getting big wins.
And if we don't want to get disappointed from losing gambling, we should gamble with the money we can afford so that if we lose, we will accept the defeat and can leave the casino without feeling disappointed.
And don't say one last bet by placing an all-in bet because that won't give you good results either.

We can still believe that we are losing because of the algorithm, but this is only applicable to those online casinos that are not fair and can be easily predicted, but for the current status of the casino, they are not doing it, and I haven't read any information about it, so we simply lose because we are unlucky. That is why we don't always blame casinos for our losses; we just play to be entertained as loses are really part if we gamble

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

I do not know if casino do this but if they do it, it is wrong practice.

There is one condition that if a casinos want to limit certain locations from winning big amount, they should announce it publicly. If they apply any algorithm hiddenly, it will come under scam and people will take legal action against such casino who do not disclose such information before.

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Quote from: sempak on December 17, 2022, 01:09:42 PM

I don't think that's possible and won't be done. What can happen is that they will cut the general terms and conditions. And if they do, they could start putting things in it that it's not allowed to win more than $25,000 a week in a casino or sports betting site. Then when you get over it, you will see them take your winnings away from you. But meanwhile they just let you gamble without any problems. There are several scam sites of this kind, most of which are licensed by the MGA. Which is also a wash nose nowadays.

Casinos won't cap your winnings -- they'll just ban you from playing if you're located in a jurisdiction that's prohibited from playing. If you circumvent this, they'll just KYC you if you try to withdraw a large amount of funds. That's generally how most of these casinos operate, but instead of legal ramifications, they just want to KYC so they can have an excuse not to pay out a large winning.

Not all casinos are like this, but they've been doing it for years so I consider it fair game at this point. I don't deposit at KYC casinos.

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I don't really think a casino will limit a particular location because of any law and remember that every country that accept gambling already have a regulatory body that is responsible to enforcing fairness and transparency between the casino and it's users.
Before signing a license and accepting to abide by it, it simply means that the casino has to do that consciously which implies that they already have a representative and a legal team who must have reviewed all if those agreements and I'm sure that they have a maximum pay out stated and as long as winnings above the agreed amount if there is any isn't triggered, there wouldn't be any call for alarm

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Quote from: Nrcewker on December 22, 2022, 09:33:20 PM

Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

Many casinos have already restricted players from specific countries. So whenever you visit a gambling site or casino and if by chance they have blocked your country, then you won’t be able to visit the site only at first place. Moreover if anyhow you bypass it using VPN, then they gonna ask you for KYC and hence block your funds if you have violated their terms of conduct and services. This is what I know from my knowledge. I don’t know if they have country limit for specific users. Yes they have bet limits on new accounts, as to prevent cheating and fixbets scenes.

There are some things here that don't make sense to me, why do they have to restrict people from certain countries from winning slots? or even in any game? I know from my own experience that people who are from the USA and Europe that the best business models are for them, all the facilities are for them, on the other hand, for a South American to have a business similar to the one they are looking for, it is very difficult, the amount of paperwork, the number of "buts" that are put, these things are not pleasant at all, and it is sad that every time you try to do something, certain countries find everything difficult, so in casinos that do something like that, at I would not recommend it at least to me, I have not come across casinos like this, but if I do, I would not hesitate to report it, it does not make sense that in casinos and issues that have to do with crypto they also have those things that do not make any sense.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

Many casinos have already restricted players from specific countries. So whenever you visit a gambling site or casino and if by chance they have blocked your country, then you won’t be able to visit the site only at first place. Moreover if anyhow you bypass it using VPN, then they gonna ask you for KYC and hence block your funds if you have violated their terms of conduct and services. This is what I know from my knowledge. I don’t know if they have country limit for specific users. Yes they have bet limits on new accounts, as to prevent cheating and fixbets scenes.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

I think something like this isn't impossible in informatics. If the programmer wants to add this rule to the code, he can. However, I think it's not interesting for the casino to do this. It doesn't make much sense to say the truth. If someone is going to have issues with authorities it's going to be the gambler, not the casino, because it's the gambler who has obligations with the local regulators when declaring how much money he is making in a yearly basis. Moreover, most slots games are provided by third party services to casinos' platforms, so casinos would need a partnership why such services in order to boycott players from determined countries, what is really unlikely and compromising for the services providers' reputation on the industry as a whole.

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