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legendary
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Neighborhood Shenanigans Dispenser
I will be riding your ass hard !
You're not my type. Sorry.
You guys can not refute my claims or the claims of others by attacking them personally.
It doesn't work.
I await your next little personal attack retort angle..
You got claims? I hear there's a lot of gold and silver mining going on in Canada.

No. Insurance Claims for Mental Health Services rendered.
legendary
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Your whole brain is full of actions and reactions, causes and effects, of all kinds of chemicals, that make synapses fire the way they do, and cause you to make what you think is a free-will choice one way or another. Your "free-will" choice is the effect of this causation process, and NOT free will after all.

What sort of Pretzel Logic is this ?!

sounds like you don't know much about cause and effect backed up by Newton's 3rd Law. Cause and effect just might be the most bottom-line operation in the whole universe, operating in more things than anything else. Study it.

Cool
legendary
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When you check into it, you will find that the experiments caused the so-called randomness. So it WAS cause and effect, because the randomness wouldn't have happened without the experimenters causing it to happen. So, essentially it wasn't randomness at all.

Theological Determinism is bullshit.

Newton's 3rd Law suggests otherwise. Remember, this law is a law. It isn't a theory. Everything that attempts to overcome Newton's 3rd Law is a theory or less... at least so far as we understand.

Newton's 3rd law with regard to free will works something like this.

Imagine that you make a free-will choice. To make this choice, almost countless numbers of electrons move in your brain. There are all kinds of additional chemical and bio-electrical stimuli at work in your brain, as well.

Now, focus on one electron in a firing synapse in you brain... one of the firings that is working with your decision-making process in the free-will choice we are discussing. This electron moves because it was bumped by a different electron = cause and effect. When it moves, it runs into another electron, stalling its own motion somewhat, and causing the other electron to move = cause and effect.

Your whole brain is full of actions and reactions, causes and effects, of all kinds of chemicals, that make synapses fire the way they do, and cause you to make what you think is a free-will choice one way or another. Your "free-will" choice is the effect of this causation process, and NOT free will after all.

All of this cause and effect goes back to what you had for supper last night, the cup of coffee you drank this morning, the sip of water you had at your desk, the perfume that beautiful co-worker of yours is wearing, etc., because the chemicals of all these affect you in some way. And all this in influenced by multitudes of things that affected the food you ate as it was growing, the chemicals in the water, the way the perfume was distilled. And all of this was caused to be the way it was by many other things... all the way back to the Beginning when God set the cause-and-effect process up to act out the earth's future history the way it did.

I agree with you that there is partial free will. But according to scientific laws that we know, there isn't any free will. And the free will that we have is something entirely different than what we think it is. Entirely different.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3990
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God can manipulate cause and effect? Whaou really nice, have any example of anything in the world where cause and effect has been manipulated?

There is no direct example of this. Why not? Because cause and effect, after it is manipulated, produces a history that doesn't show any manipulation.

This is one of the faith things. The Bible says that mankind has free will. Yet cause and effect as we know exists shows that there is no free will. The stickler is that the science that shows cause and effect, doesn't formally accept the idea of pure random that it would take if we had free will. Science is trying to prove pure random and free will, but the best they have is theories.

The point is that if we have free will like God says, and if there is cause and effect that science says, the only way other than miracles is if God recognizes our free will, and adjusts cause and effect in the beginning to make things happen by cause and effect. God doesn't want to show Himself through miracles... except in special circumstances. This is why He goes back to adjust cause and effect in the beginning.

Like you are going to understand any of this.

Cool

Which means god does nothing. He already did, but he's no longer doing anything.

No... it simply means that we don't recognize most of how God works and what He does technically.

There are a few things that we know about God, including His existence, and that He is extremely powerful. Also, the fact that He gives us the things that He gives us, suggests that He probably has a lot of love for us. The things that we don't know about God, but that He tells us in the holy books, are things we take on faith.

But it seems, in your previous post that I am quoting, that you are suddenly turning from your faith.

Cool

LOL,  we don't know anything about him existing or not. It's not because cause and effect exists that God is behind it.

Like the dumbest people claiming that because golden ratio is in the nature pretty much everywhere it means it proves God created all those things...

You are mistaken, I will explain with the example of the pool/billiards professional.

Somewhere during a game of pool, a professional pool player looks at the pool balls scattered on the pool table. Then he says, "I am going to tap the cue ball, which will hit ball x, which will hit ball xx, which will hit ball xxx, which will hit ball xxxx into the corner pocket over here." Then he does it. Few people can do this on a regular basis.

In the beginning of the universe (The universe had a beginning because if it didn't, all-pervading entropy would have reduced it to no complexity by now.), electron x hit electron xx, electron xx hit electron xxx, electron xxx hit electron xxxx, etc., right on down to the present, with countless numbers of hits. And electrons weren't the only thing. All sorts of atomic and sub atomic and energy waves and who-knows-what-else are there doing the same thing, from the beginning right down to the present. The result that we see today is complexity all around, and especially in the intelligence and emotion of mankind.

The universe is countless numbers of times greater than the professional pool player in the complexity it has produced.

When we look around in nature, we see nothing that could have caused the universe. More importantly, we see nothing that could have caused life, and especially intelligence and emotion. Yet these all exist because of cause and effect from the distant past. Whatever produced the universe, life, intelligence and emotion, must have been a great "pool player" to have set these things going in the distant past.

We have no evidence of anything happening spontaneously in the universe. Many things look spontaneous, but they were really caused by something else. This means that there is no random. No random means that everything was set up to run the way it does. Whatever set the universe up to run the way it does, in the face of entropy, so that after thousands of years of cause and effect, it still produces intelligence and emotion, must have been very great, containing a vast amount of intelligence and emotion in itself, far greater than mankind.

Look up the word "God" in the dictionary. There are many aspects. Often the first aspect contains wording like "the one Supreme Being, the creator and ruler of the universe." Since there was a beginning, and since there is great pool/billiards-like cause and effect beyond understanding, and since there is intelligence and emotion, whatever caused the universe had all this in itself. None of these things happen by random accident. We have no evidence of random accident, because universal cause and effect rule random accident out.

Whatever that "thing" was that caused the universe, did it according to intelligent plan, and with emotion. If it didn't, we wouldn't have intelligence and emotion. The definition of the word "God" in the dictionary fits whatever set the universe up. In fact, we cannot begin to understand how great of a God God is.

Most important. You won't understand this stuff without thinking about it. And you don't have to allow yourself to understand it. But if you investigate these things thoroughly, to see if they make sense, you will find God in them.

Cool

Thank you for your explanation. And you are wrong.

We do know now that cause and effect isn't an absolute truth. There is a case where cause and effect doesn't work. Quantum physic showed that random is part of the universe, some experiments proved that particules can take two paths and the path is chosen completely randomly !

Determinism isn't absolute. There is a part of randomness so what you're saying is false.
If you want to know more about it just look for laser path Determinism.

When you check into it, you will find that the experiments caused the so-called randomness. So it WAS cause and effect, because the randomness wouldn't have happened without the experimenters causing it to happen. So, essentially it wasn't randomness at all.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251

God can manipulate cause and effect? Whaou really nice, have any example of anything in the world where cause and effect has been manipulated?

There is no direct example of this. Why not? Because cause and effect, after it is manipulated, produces a history that doesn't show any manipulation.

This is one of the faith things. The Bible says that mankind has free will. Yet cause and effect as we know exists shows that there is no free will. The stickler is that the science that shows cause and effect, doesn't formally accept the idea of pure random that it would take if we had free will. Science is trying to prove pure random and free will, but the best they have is theories.

The point is that if we have free will like God says, and if there is cause and effect that science says, the only way other than miracles is if God recognizes our free will, and adjusts cause and effect in the beginning to make things happen by cause and effect. God doesn't want to show Himself through miracles... except in special circumstances. This is why He goes back to adjust cause and effect in the beginning.

Like you are going to understand any of this.

Cool

Which means god does nothing. He already did, but he's no longer doing anything.

No... it simply means that we don't recognize most of how God works and what He does technically.

There are a few things that we know about God, including His existence, and that He is extremely powerful. Also, the fact that He gives us the things that He gives us, suggests that He probably has a lot of love for us. The things that we don't know about God, but that He tells us in the holy books, are things we take on faith.

But it seems, in your previous post that I am quoting, that you are suddenly turning from your faith.

Cool

LOL,  we don't know anything about him existing or not. It's not because cause and effect exists that God is behind it.

Like the dumbest people claiming that because golden ratio is in the nature pretty much everywhere it means it proves God created all those things...

You are mistaken, I will explain with the example of the pool/billiards professional.

Somewhere during a game of pool, a professional pool player looks at the pool balls scattered on the pool table. Then he says, "I am going to tap the cue ball, which will hit ball x, which will hit ball xx, which will hit ball xxx, which will hit ball xxxx into the corner pocket over here." Then he does it. Few people can do this on a regular basis.

In the beginning of the universe (The universe had a beginning because if it didn't, all-pervading entropy would have reduced it to no complexity by now.), electron x hit electron xx, electron xx hit electron xxx, electron xxx hit electron xxxx, etc., right on down to the present, with countless numbers of hits. And electrons weren't the only thing. All sorts of atomic and sub atomic and energy waves and who-knows-what-else are there doing the same thing, from the beginning right down to the present. The result that we see today is complexity all around, and especially in the intelligence and emotion of mankind.

The universe is countless numbers of times greater than the professional pool player in the complexity it has produced.

When we look around in nature, we see nothing that could have caused the universe. More importantly, we see nothing that could have caused life, and especially intelligence and emotion. Yet these all exist because of cause and effect from the distant past. Whatever produced the universe, life, intelligence and emotion, must have been a great "pool player" to have set these things going in the distant past.

We have no evidence of anything happening spontaneously in the universe. Many things look spontaneous, but they were really caused by something else. This means that there is no random. No random means that everything was set up to run the way it does. Whatever set the universe up to run the way it does, in the face of entropy, so that after thousands of years of cause and effect, it still produces intelligence and emotion, must have been very great, containing a vast amount of intelligence and emotion in itself, far greater than mankind.

Look up the word "God" in the dictionary. There are many aspects. Often the first aspect contains wording like "the one Supreme Being, the creator and ruler of the universe." Since there was a beginning, and since there is great pool/billiards-like cause and effect beyond understanding, and since there is intelligence and emotion, whatever caused the universe had all this in itself. None of these things happen by random accident. We have no evidence of random accident, because universal cause and effect rule random accident out.

Whatever that "thing" was that caused the universe, did it according to intelligent plan, and with emotion. If it didn't, we wouldn't have intelligence and emotion. The definition of the word "God" in the dictionary fits whatever set the universe up. In fact, we cannot begin to understand how great of a God God is.

Most important. You won't understand this stuff without thinking about it. And you don't have to allow yourself to understand it. But if you investigate these things thoroughly, to see if they make sense, you will find God in them.

Cool

Thank you for your explanation. And you are wrong.

We do know now that cause and effect isn't an absolute truth. There is a case where cause and effect doesn't work. Quantum physic showed that random is part of the universe, some experiments proved that particules can take two paths and the path is chosen completely randomly !

Determinism isn't absolute. There is a part of randomness so what you're saying is false.
If you want to know more about it just look for laser path Determinism.
legendary
Activity: 1868
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Neighborhood Shenanigans Dispenser
I will be riding your ass hard !

You're not my type. Sorry.
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385

God can manipulate cause and effect? Whaou really nice, have any example of anything in the world where cause and effect has been manipulated?

There is no direct example of this. Why not? Because cause and effect, after it is manipulated, produces a history that doesn't show any manipulation.

This is one of the faith things. The Bible says that mankind has free will. Yet cause and effect as we know exists shows that there is no free will. The stickler is that the science that shows cause and effect, doesn't formally accept the idea of pure random that it would take if we had free will. Science is trying to prove pure random and free will, but the best they have is theories.

The point is that if we have free will like God says, and if there is cause and effect that science says, the only way other than miracles is if God recognizes our free will, and adjusts cause and effect in the beginning to make things happen by cause and effect. God doesn't want to show Himself through miracles... except in special circumstances. This is why He goes back to adjust cause and effect in the beginning.

Like you are going to understand any of this.

Cool

Which means god does nothing. He already did, but he's no longer doing anything.

No... it simply means that we don't recognize most of how God works and what He does technically.

There are a few things that we know about God, including His existence, and that He is extremely powerful. Also, the fact that He gives us the things that He gives us, suggests that He probably has a lot of love for us. The things that we don't know about God, but that He tells us in the holy books, are things we take on faith.

But it seems, in your previous post that I am quoting, that you are suddenly turning from your faith.

Cool

LOL,  we don't know anything about him existing or not. It's not because cause and effect exists that God is behind it.

Like the dumbest people claiming that because golden ratio is in the nature pretty much everywhere it means it proves God created all those things...

You are mistaken, I will explain with the example of the pool/billiards professional.

Somewhere during a game of pool, a professional pool player looks at the pool balls scattered on the pool table. Then he says, "I am going to tap the cue ball, which will hit ball x, which will hit ball xx, which will hit ball xxx, which will hit ball xxxx into the corner pocket over here." Then he does it. Few people can do this on a regular basis.

In the beginning of the universe (The universe had a beginning because if it didn't, all-pervading entropy would have reduced it to no complexity by now.), electron x hit electron xx, electron xx hit electron xxx, electron xxx hit electron xxxx, etc., right on down to the present, with countless numbers of hits. And electrons weren't the only thing. All sorts of atomic and sub atomic and energy waves and who-knows-what-else are there doing the same thing, from the beginning right down to the present. The result that we see today is complexity all around, and especially in the intelligence and emotion of mankind.

The universe is countless numbers of times greater than the professional pool player in the complexity it has produced.

When we look around in nature, we see nothing that could have caused the universe. More importantly, we see nothing that could have caused life, and especially intelligence and emotion. Yet these all exist because of cause and effect from the distant past. Whatever produced the universe, life, intelligence and emotion, must have been a great "pool player" to have set these things going in the distant past.

We have no evidence of anything happening spontaneously in the universe. Many things look spontaneous, but they were really caused by something else. This means that there is no random. No random means that everything was set up to run the way it does. Whatever set the universe up to run the way it does, in the face of entropy, so that after thousands of years of cause and effect, it still produces intelligence and emotion, must have been very great, containing a vast amount of intelligence and emotion in itself, far greater than mankind.

Look up the word "God" in the dictionary. There are many aspects. Often the first aspect contains wording like "the one Supreme Being, the creator and ruler of the universe." Since there was a beginning, and since there is great pool/billiards-like cause and effect beyond understanding, and since there is intelligence and emotion, whatever caused the universe had all this in itself. None of these things happen by random accident. We have no evidence of random accident, because universal cause and effect rule random accident out.

Whatever that "thing" was that caused the universe, did it according to intelligent plan, and with emotion. If it didn't, we wouldn't have intelligence and emotion. The definition of the word "God" in the dictionary fits whatever set the universe up. In fact, we cannot begin to understand how great of a God God is.

Most important. You won't understand this stuff without thinking about it. And you don't have to allow yourself to understand it. But if you investigate these things thoroughly, to see if they make sense, you will find God in them.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251

God can manipulate cause and effect? Whaou really nice, have any example of anything in the world where cause and effect has been manipulated?

There is no direct example of this. Why not? Because cause and effect, after it is manipulated, produces a history that doesn't show any manipulation.

This is one of the faith things. The Bible says that mankind has free will. Yet cause and effect as we know exists shows that there is no free will. The stickler is that the science that shows cause and effect, doesn't formally accept the idea of pure random that it would take if we had free will. Science is trying to prove pure random and free will, but the best they have is theories.

The point is that if we have free will like God says, and if there is cause and effect that science says, the only way other than miracles is if God recognizes our free will, and adjusts cause and effect in the beginning to make things happen by cause and effect. God doesn't want to show Himself through miracles... except in special circumstances. This is why He goes back to adjust cause and effect in the beginning.

Like you are going to understand any of this.

Cool

Which means god does nothing. He already did, but he's no longer doing anything.

No... it simply means that we don't recognize most of how God works and what He does technically.

There are a few things that we know about God, including His existence, and that He is extremely powerful. Also, the fact that He gives us the things that He gives us, suggests that He probably has a lot of love for us. The things that we don't know about God, but that He tells us in the holy books, are things we take on faith.

But it seems, in your previous post that I am quoting, that you are suddenly turning from your faith.

Cool

LOL,  we don't know anything about him existing or not. It's not because cause and effect exists that God is behind it.

Like the dumbest people claiming that because golden ratio is in the nature pretty much everywhere it means it proves God created all those things...
sr. member
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Probably yes, US is the national police in the world. According to national defense US is the most powerful defense in the world. The equipments of the military and police are advance to other country. Many country hates US but some of countries love US. For example philippines and israel. US is friendly so its OK.
legendary
Activity: 1868
Merit: 5722
Neighborhood Shenanigans Dispenser
Spoetnik's behavior is suddenly starting to make much more sense.

Nutcase confirmed.

and VOD rather than following me around Trolling with Welfare comments prove it.
I did. Read two posts up.   Wink
medical disability is not welfare sweet heart LOL
legendary
Activity: 3990
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I just want to know if I'm the only one aware of that.
USA actually brought nothing on this last century but the destruction of the world. The whole middle east situation is entirely their fault. The overwhelming power of oil companies is their fault. The absurd market deregulation is their fault. The nonsense power of banks on the rest of the world I their fault.

But you can also add instability of south America,  consumption society, the absurd (and false) trust in a growth society.

I mean,  USA is probably the biggest mistake of France. As a French I truly apologise, we should have never sent any troops and firepower to the USA when they were at war with UK.  Sorry again people.

Last week I watched a youtube video about the Revelation. I dont know if it is real or nor but they are trying to connect it. They say Babylon is USA. Come to think of it Jews are the race that have been rising in Hollywood and some rich people that lives in USA are also Jewish. Another thing is it is called SHE at the said video. Where it connects with Statue of Liberty the symbol known in America which is a SHE although it really came from another country they still connected it. You could watch it if you are curious just search for some words that I said.

Babylon is the money system. A quote from the New Testament, "The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil."

When you examine Babylon in the Revelation, you see that it is hooked to the buying and sell of all kinds of things, including the bodies and souls of people.

Since the 666 number is the number of the beast, and also the number of people, check out that the Old Testament 666 is the number of talents of gold that Solomon annually brought out of Africa to Israel each year for about 18 years. Gold has always been hooked to the idea of money.

Since money is used worldwide, how does the USA figure in? The USA is technically the freest of countries. Shrewd money people recognize this freedom even more than most of the population of American common people, and base themselves in the USA so that they can be free in their money dealings. This makes the USA look like Babylon.

The USA is the greatest blessing in the world. The reason for this is that American freedom allows Christian evangelists to move from America around the world to bring the good news of salvation to all people. After all, what good is money? If people live beyond 100 years, it isn't far beyond. Then comes eternity, Heaven or Hell, glory or destruction. Money has no benefit for people at all, after they die.

The time of the end is near because 100 years (if that) per person is short. In addition, the Middle East is fast becoming the Armageddon predicted in the Revelation and elsewhere in the Bible. It is at the time of the end of the Armageddon that Jesus will return for real, God will raise all dead people from the dead, and the Judgment will take place.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3990
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God can manipulate cause and effect? Whaou really nice, have any example of anything in the world where cause and effect has been manipulated?

There is no direct example of this. Why not? Because cause and effect, after it is manipulated, produces a history that doesn't show any manipulation.

This is one of the faith things. The Bible says that mankind has free will. Yet cause and effect as we know exists shows that there is no free will. The stickler is that the science that shows cause and effect, doesn't formally accept the idea of pure random that it would take if we had free will. Science is trying to prove pure random and free will, but the best they have is theories.

The point is that if we have free will like God says, and if there is cause and effect that science says, the only way other than miracles is if God recognizes our free will, and adjusts cause and effect in the beginning to make things happen by cause and effect. God doesn't want to show Himself through miracles... except in special circumstances. This is why He goes back to adjust cause and effect in the beginning.

Like you are going to understand any of this.

Cool

Which means god does nothing. He already did, but he's no longer doing anything.

No... it simply means that we don't recognize most of how God works and what He does technically.

There are a few things that we know about God, including His existence, and that He is extremely powerful. Also, the fact that He gives us the things that He gives us, suggests that He probably has a lot of love for us. The things that we don't know about God, but that He tells us in the holy books, are things we take on faith.

But it seems, in your previous post that I am quoting, that you are suddenly turning from your faith.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
God is simply holding it back so that His people who aren't strong enough to care for themselves - the elderly - will have passed on.

I hope you can appreciate, that those of us with more than a dozen functioning brain-cells, consider this line of thinking as complete lunacy.

Okay, now that you have expressed that you don't understand, or worse, what exactly don't you understand?

Cool

Well, the link between God and USdollar maybe? xD

Look at my above post, but I'll repeat it here:
Quote
God has to do with everything. God created cause and effect that controls how things operate, and God manipulates cause and effect to match the faith of people.

Cool

God can manipulate cause and effect? Whaou really nice, have any example of anything in the world where cause and effect has been manipulated?

There is no direct example of this. Why not? Because cause and effect, after it is manipulated, produces a history that doesn't show any manipulation.

This is one of the faith things. The Bible says that mankind has free will. Yet cause and effect as we know exists shows that there is no free will. The stickler is that the science that shows cause and effect, doesn't formally accept the idea of pure random that it would take if we had free will. Science is trying to prove pure random and free will, but the best they have is theories.

The point is that if we have free will like God says, and if there is cause and effect that science says, the only way other than miracles is if God recognizes our free will, and adjusts cause and effect in the beginning to make things happen by cause and effect. God doesn't want to show Himself through miracles... except in special circumstances. This is why He goes back to adjust cause and effect in the beginning.

Like you are going to understand any of this.

Cool

Which means god does nothing. He already did, but he's no longer doing anything.
hero member
Activity: 3052
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I just want to know if I'm the only one aware of that.
USA actually brought nothing on this last century but the destruction of the world. The whole middle east situation is entirely their fault. The overwhelming power of oil companies is their fault. The absurd market deregulation is their fault. The nonsense power of banks on the rest of the world I their fault.

But you can also add instability of south America,  consumption society, the absurd (and false) trust in a growth society.

I mean,  USA is probably the biggest mistake of France. As a French I truly apologise, we should have never sent any troops and firepower to the USA when they were at war with UK.  Sorry again people.

Last week I watched a youtube video about the Revelation. I dont know if it is real or nor but they are trying to connect it. They say Babylon is USA. Come to think of it Jews are the race that have been rising in Hollywood and some rich people that lives in USA are also Jewish. Another thing is it is called SHE at the said video. Where it connects with Statue of Liberty the symbol known in America which is a SHE although it really came from another country they still connected it. You could watch it if you are curious just search for some words that I said.
legendary
Activity: 3990
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God is simply holding it back so that His people who aren't strong enough to care for themselves - the elderly - will have passed on.
I hope you can appreciate, that those of us with more than a dozen functioning brain-cells, consider this line of thinking as complete lunacy.
Okay, now that you have expressed that you don't understand, or worse, what exactly don't you understand?

... I have zero belief that "God" has anything to do with the value of the US Dollar.

God's a WHALE he been pumpin' mah coinz !!!1111ONE

Seriously though i am not sure what this has to do with the topic here.
I DO like the fact you slid in the snazzy term quantitative-easing..
a key method the Fed-Reserve uses to manipulate the price of the US dollar.

My favorite part though is..
Quote
This 70 years is a cycle in economics that can't be thwarted.
I ROFL'd ..it can't be THWARTED !!!

Badecker you such a Troll  Cheesy
Looks like you got one on your line biting LOL

In the past, the 70 year cycle has been right on time. There are a few reasons why it is off today. Study it, and you will see.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
God is simply holding it back so that His people who aren't strong enough to care for themselves - the elderly - will have passed on.

I hope you can appreciate, that those of us with more than a dozen functioning brain-cells, consider this line of thinking as complete lunacy.

Okay, now that you have expressed that you don't understand, or worse, what exactly don't you understand?

Cool

Well, the link between God and USdollar maybe? xD

Look at my above post, but I'll repeat it here:
Quote
God has to do with everything. God created cause and effect that controls how things operate, and God manipulates cause and effect to match the faith of people.

Cool

God can manipulate cause and effect? Whaou really nice, have any example of anything in the world where cause and effect has been manipulated?

There is no direct example of this. Why not? Because cause and effect, after it is manipulated, produces a history that doesn't show any manipulation.

This is one of the faith things. The Bible says that mankind has free will. Yet cause and effect as we know exists shows that there is no free will. The stickler is that the science that shows cause and effect, doesn't formally accept the idea of pure random that it would take if we had free will. Science is trying to prove pure random and free will, but the best they have is theories.

The point is that if we have free will like God says, and if there is cause and effect that science says, the only way other than miracles is if God recognizes our free will, and adjusts cause and effect in the beginning to make things happen by cause and effect. God doesn't want to show Himself through miracles... except in special circumstances. This is why He goes back to adjust cause and effect in the beginning.

Like you are going to understand any of this.

Cool
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
God is simply holding it back so that His people who aren't strong enough to care for themselves - the elderly - will have passed on.
I hope you can appreciate, that those of us with more than a dozen functioning brain-cells, consider this line of thinking as complete lunacy.
Okay, now that you have expressed that you don't understand, or worse, what exactly don't you understand?

... I have zero belief that "God" has anything to do with the value of the US Dollar.

God's a WHALE he been pumpin' mah coinz !!!1111ONE

Seriously though i am not sure what this has to do with the topic here.
I DO like the fact you slid in the snazzy term quantitative-easing..
a key method the Fed-Reserve uses to manipulate the price of the US dollar.

My favorite part though is..
Quote
This 70 years is a cycle in economics that can't be thwarted.
I ROFL'd ..it can't be THWARTED !!!

Badecker you such a Troll  Cheesy
Looks like you got one on your line biting LOL
legendary
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God is simply holding it back so that His people who aren't strong enough to care for themselves - the elderly - will have passed on.

I hope you can appreciate, that those of us with more than a dozen functioning brain-cells, consider this line of thinking as complete lunacy.

Okay, now that you have expressed that you don't understand, or worse, what exactly don't you understand?

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Well, the link between God and USdollar maybe? xD

Look at my above post, but I'll repeat it here:
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God has to do with everything. God created cause and effect that controls how things operate, and God manipulates cause and effect to match the faith of people.

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God can manipulate cause and effect? Whaou really nice, have any example of anything in the world where cause and effect has been manipulated?
legendary
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The Americans tried to invade Canada long ago and we booted your cocky ass's back across the border.
Care to comment on that ?

That was a long time ago - like you said - and weapons technology has made a quantum leap forward since then.

If America wished to invade Canada today, there isn't much you could do about it.
legendary
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God is simply holding it back so that His people who aren't strong enough to care for themselves - the elderly - will have passed on.

I hope you can appreciate, that those of us with more than a dozen functioning brain-cells, consider this line of thinking as complete lunacy.

Okay, now that you have expressed that you don't understand, or worse, what exactly don't you understand?

Cool

Well, the link between God and USdollar maybe? xD

Look at my above post, but I'll repeat it here:
Quote
God has to do with everything. God created cause and effect that controls how things operate, and God manipulates cause and effect to match the faith of people.

Cool
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