Do you avoid some games because of racism?

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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on May 27, 2024, 10:39:00 PM

Quote from: Odohu on March 08, 2024, 02:38:37 AM

Thank you for bringing this up because it has become a thing of concern to me. I noticed that in some leagues, the home team will always win whereas it is not like that in other leagues. I have tried asking questions in the past and I was told that the officials do their best to favor the home sides in order to save their head. I don't know if this can be called racism though.

This is called home advantage and not racism, racism is what had to do with color and origin of some players, just like what Vinicius Jr. suffered in the hands of Villarreal fans as they persistently called him "Mono" meaning monkey and throwing stuffs at him. The game had to be halted to resolve the commotion.

Thank you for that clarification, I was actually finding it hard distinguishing between racism and what you called home advantage, now I understand it better. The issue of racism have been there for long, many players such as Samuel Eto, Alaba, Ashew and many others faced same issue. I'm happy the most recent one being Vinicius's cased pushed him to Real Madrid where he is better paid and have achieved better results than Villarreal.

Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on May 27, 2024, 10:39:00 PM

Fifa president who was clearly a racist tried backing the fans, but instead of it diving the situation, he fell out with Vini and other non-racial football leaders.

I don't know how true this is but I know that FIFA have been making serious effort at discouraging racism especially in football, and to think that the president is a racist is something I don't want to imagine. I know that if there is strong evidence of him being a recist, he will be forced to resign.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

As far as racism goes, there is only limit to which it could apply to a game. I think a regular gambler wouldn't boycott a league because the league happens to be racists but would definitely boycott a game should it happen to be manipulated and would be even worst when this manipulations is has some racist roots.
I've hardly seen such case in football though, racism is still very active in sports despite several campaigns to create awareness.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Is there any game where any team or player lost because of racism? Are you serious? Okay, there is a football player called Vinícius Júnior who always cries about racism. Yes, there is a racism towards him because he is one of the most terrible person among every football player, he does terrible thing to everyone and then cries when fans of opposite teams expresses racism towards him. There is a Bellingham in Real Madrid who is also black but everyone loves him and as far as I know, no one expresses any forms of racism towards him.

There are too many loved black players in every kind of sports, including Football, Basketball, MMA, Boxing, American Football and so on.

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I'm a dumb guy and I don't think that I would easily spot racism in a sports game unless pointed out to me, in my opinion it's probably in your best of interest to get out when that kind of play happens, I mean it's racist after all, why the need to be questioning things right? If it doesn't sit well with your morals and ethics as a person, you never should take long to decide whether it's good for you or bad. So far, I haven't seen any racism in sports that I watch so I'm not keen on disregarding them but the moment that they do so, it's over for me, there are other people though that would still go back I'm sure of that, I mean that's how things in business are right? You make a big mistake, you pay for it for a little bit of time and then as time goes by, the people will forget it.

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Quote from: JMBitcointernational on May 25, 2024, 01:19:53 PM

We experience racism in most of the games which is very bad because it brings hatred among players and countries, but for me i do not consider racism while playing bet because i believe that racism cannot deprive me from having fun. There is no way racism can manipulate your game and in most of the sports racism have been banned and there is always a fine placed on each player or country found in such act. the core essence of sports is for unity and integration, that is why the organizers are very strict when it comes to Racism because it can lead to disintegration.

Although it's difficult to eradicate racism, we hope that people can open their minds that we are the same and no needs to say bad things to some people if they don't do bad things. We are different but we have the same things and if that's a sports, we must supports it so we can see a fair match. Yes, I agree that the core essence of sports is for unity and integration and people united in a sports because they don't feels different than other people. Racism will only gives a big differences and people will not calm when they are in public area and will not united because of that differences. But if all people can realizes that racism only makes the situation becomes worst, they must not doing that and needs to forget the differences from each other.

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Quote from: Odohu on March 08, 2024, 02:38:37 AM

Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Thank you for bringing this up because it has become a thing of concern to me. I noticed that in some leagues, the home team will always win whereas it is not like that in other leagues. I have tried asking questions in the past and I was told that the officials do their best to favor the home sides in order to save their head. I don't know if this can be called racism though.

Even the bookies usually give smaller odds to the home side irrespective of the strength of the away team. So to avoid losses, I usually avoid leagues where I notice this to be a norm. I want to play matches that I know there is fairness in the officiating as that will make me relaxed that the match will follow prediction.

Yes you speak volume in my heart as this has been my observation, in line with op topic, one thing we as player this game or gamblers need is making use of our initiative and be Smart with this people in our own way, the matter is very disheartening as this very issue keep occuring and seen no solution will be tender to it, as that which seen to appear as racism exist in between matches, previous match I watch what the referee blow using VAR to favour a home team was a day light rubbing, people around me why arguing said they have sold the match by the opposing team but I doubt, if club do sell there match if that exists or referee is always favouring home team is good to keep records of such referee and the club to avoid been disappointed when playing booking game with such caliber.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I have heard and read news about racism in games and I oppose any of such acts. It's sad to see fans, officials and players involved in such activities. I never understand the hate people give towards people of other race. The controversies of VAR officials are also in the news but I don't see VAR giving bad decision due to racism.
I don't link my gambling with fans activities and racism from fans, players or officials. Most of the time the players or teams performance are not affected by such activities. I won't stop betting due to racism concern because if I started avoiding, I'll be left with no games to bet on.

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Quote from: Odohu on March 08, 2024, 02:38:37 AM

Thank you for bringing this up because it has become a thing of concern to me. I noticed that in some leagues, the home team will always win whereas it is not like that in other leagues. I have tried asking questions in the past and I was told that the officials do their best to favor the home sides in order to save their head. I don't know if this can be called racism though.

This is called home advantage and not racism, racism is what had to do with color and origin of some players, just like what Vinicius Jr. suffered in the hands of Villarreal fans as they persistently called him "Mono" meaning monkey and throwing stuffs at him. The game had to be halted to resolve the commotion.

Fifa president who was clearly a racist tried backing the fans, but instead of it diving the situation, he fell out with Vini and other non-racial football leaders.

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Even the bookies usually give smaller odds to the home side irrespective of the strength of the away team. So to avoid losses, I usually avoid leagues where I notice this to be a norm. I want to play matches that I know there is fairness in the officiating as that will make me relaxed that the match will follow prediction.

Casinos give team odds based on team form and individual player odd based on the efficiency of such player to deliver such activity. I don't think Racism has anything to do with that. I can't be entirely right though, the next person might have a more valid point.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

We experience racism in most of the games which is very bad because it brings hatred among players and countries, but for me i do not consider racism while playing bet because i believe that racism cannot deprive me from having fun. There is no way racism can manipulate your game and in most of the sports racism have been banned and there is always a fine placed on each player or country found in such act. the core essence of sports is for unity and integration, that is why the organizers are very strict when it comes to Racism because it can lead to disintegration.

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Yes, it is really important for you to avoid some things because of the season. I don’t really look at those things but someone put my attention to it and maybe it has happened but I have never seen it well after listening and looking at this on understanding it, it is necessary to avoid some games because of racism. This affect your game if it happens this way because I have not seen it before and I don’t really know the advice to put in this but I think it happens.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Racism is a really strong action that is being tackled and corrected in the world. I don't know how often this kind of thing happen but I think every coach or referee are strictly discipline to the fact and notice that everyone is the same and no bias nature of anything possible outcome in the match. Referee are the last line of defending and reffing the game because their simple action can change the whole entire outcome of the league winners.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Could you give some actual specific examples or is all you're doing based on speculation? I haven't seen any referee giving off signals they are making decisions based on racism and how would you even judge that? There are so many divers and drama queens in football these days the ref has a tough enough decision without being clouded by other things. Why would it be limited to race? Maybe the VAR ref supports a certain team or wants to see another fail? The decisions they make are ultimately backed up with visual evidence and staying within the rules, if they keep failing consistently then they will lose their job long term.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 19, 2024, 06:17:30 AM

I don't think @OP mean racism is about skin color, but it's more like to nationally or teams. If skin color is the problem, there will be a lot discussion about that, but I had never heard about about such case.

Actually it also happen on well-known leagues, surprisingly the referee didn't get any sanctions and still become referees in top leagues.

Neymar's rainbow flick is one of the example. there's nothing wrong with that, but since English players can't do that, they ban rainbow flick and give yellow cards for anyone that do that.

I agree with you that OP is not trying to talk about the color of a player or team instead the OP is trying to talk about the team of a country or league or something like that as it is not about a person there is nothing wrong with the op.

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Quote from: shivansps on April 19, 2024, 05:30:29 AM

I can hardly imagine that there could be a different result due to the color of a player's skin. The fact is that many people from all over the world follow the matches very closely. I’m now talking about well-known leagues, for example in football. So, because of one such mistake, a judge or his assistant may lose his job forever and a huge scandal may result.
I cannot say that this has never happened or will not happen, but I can say that I do not know of such cases. Maybe somewhere in the regional leagues

I don't think @OP mean racism is about skin color, but it's more like to nationally or teams. If skin color is the problem, there will be a lot discussion about that, but I had never heard about about such case.

Actually it also happen on well-known leagues, surprisingly the referee didn't get any sanctions and still become referees in top leagues.

Neymar's rainbow flick is one of the example. there's nothing wrong with that, but since English players can't do that, they ban rainbow flick and give yellow cards for anyone that do that.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I can hardly imagine that there could be a different result due to the color of a player's skin. The fact is that many people from all over the world follow the matches very closely. I’m now talking about well-known leagues, for example in football. So, because of one such mistake, a judge or his assistant may lose his job forever and a huge scandal may result.
I cannot say that this has never happened or will not happen, but I can say that I do not know of such cases. Maybe somewhere in the regional leagues

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 16, 2024, 10:57:36 AM

With my many years of gambling, i don't think there is any bet, sport event or any game in which accept the application of racism in it, if it ever happened then people will kicked against such because its out of the context for the reason why we should gamble for fun, gambling brings the people together in friendliness, its not something that should be done with partiality and not be fair in making judgment about it, not to even talk of now that we make use of many sophisticated technologies in making sure that everything went on as expected in gambling or sports.

You meant "fair"? Yes, I agree with you. It becomes harder and harder nowadays to pass an unfair judgement based on your own prejudices. If anything like that happens in the games of high level, with modern technologies it will be spotted right away. In the games of lower level, however, held in some rural areas, things like this can happen without being spotted. But it becomes less and less often these days thanks to technological advancements.

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Quote from: Taskford on April 14, 2024, 07:03:50 AM

On some case that this kind of action happening on certain games then provably I will avoid them because on that way I will show my protest and support to boycott those sports betting options out there so that they will be alerted that there's a lot of people doesn't like the actions they have done. Maybe this cases happen since some of those officials have a team they support on that's why maybe there's a manipulation happening that's why if this issue happen for sure we can't see any fairness on that match so its better to avoid that trying to risk and tolerate all the action they do since in long run a lot of gambler or people involve on that match will suffer.

I think that not only you, but that we all have to boycott things or manifestations of racism, whether here in the Apostases, whether at any level, it is not possible that at this point in life we are thinking about this type of racism things , where basically things do not have to exist anymore, if this existed it should not exist anymore, I think that sometimes not even in sporting events it should not generate any type of pride that represents this type of events.

I think a lot can be done, from now on bitconitalk, if people raise their voices and this goes in several directions, something very big can be done with this type of thing

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With my many years of gambling, i don't think there is any bet, sport event or any game in which accept the application of racism in it, if it ever happened then people will kicked against such because its out of the context for the reason why we should gamble for fun, gambling brings the people together in friendliness, its not something that should be done with partiality and not be fair in making judgment about it, not to even talk of now that we make use of many sophisticated technologies in making sure that everything went on as expected in gambling or sports.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Maybe if my only pursuit is to have fun playing gambling, I won't pay attention to that, and I don't care about that. For others, they might be really spoiled; who would want that?
And that kind of attitude is not really good, honestly speaking.

Who would want the referee to favor someone, as if the result is that someone took sides or was favored, so the other one lost? That's what I see.

I think those things only happen in small leagues but I really it can be done in professional leagues as different races become a part of the committee and I am sure they will be against it so there will be a punishment for officials who would use that kind of strategy.

I don't pay attention to this kind of thing too because I have not really seen something like racism happen yet. Also, most popular betting sites don't add small leagues in their sports lists so there's no way to make a bet for it unless it is happening in your local and there's a sports bookie who are always present whenever a match will happen.

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Do you avoid some games because of racism? No and I never heard about racism in gambling I mean I only play online gambling but didn't found case about racism. Just advice if you wanna play just play and don't think about other thing if you like it just play it as simple as that tho this is just a personal opinion from me

Tho racism in a chat maybe there is one or two people but I really avoid gambling chat hahah

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