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Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 15, 2024, 07:18:15 AM

Quote from: rodskee on April 14, 2024, 08:16:23 AM

yups , that is happening when the gambler is a sports fan as they are more
concern about the team success than their bets.referee takes big part in each
games and money is nothing if we are enjoying the game.

The referee who leads the match should make the match is a good entertain and will not doing something that can ruins their reputations.

That is what we wanted to happen that the referee will act towards the betterment of the
game and its result but the problem is that do the thing happened as this? because we knew that
there are anomaly in sports for how many years now so eb aware of those chances of being rigged.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Maybe i live in the bubble when i haven't even heard about referees being racists ever, but i guess that's a possibility, as why would referees live outside of that issue. But i have to wonder that how would that be combatted against, apart from racism awareness. Because referees make mistakes all the time in nordic countries, and because we have been traditionally white, no one has even thought about racism. So proving that some referee's actions were racist, would either be hard to prove and most likely matter of confirmation bias, or statistically obvious racism.

And now teams can be multiracial mixes of every ethnicity, so referees would need to be against individual players, and people would notice that even easier.

Being a referee is sort of honor system and if someone was suspected of playing favors or being against someone, they wouldn't work much as referees in the future. Not at least in here.

As a white man, it's quite hard to see that, as we aren't wired to notice continuous unequality towards others. When it's suddle enough.

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To some extent, I understand the concerns some people feel about racism in gaming and its impact on sports betting. It is true that cases of racism during matches can be a source of distrust in betting results. There are many aspects to consider when you want to bet on a game. One such aspect is whether there will be transparency and honesty in the game. If you feel racism or manipulation of any kind will occur, it may not be wise to place your bets on the match.

At the same time, refusing to participate in some games for fear of racism or manipulation also raises questions about the ethics of our relationship with sport. Is it better to avoid matches that may be prone to racism, or is it better not to disengage from efforts and struggles to challenge and fight racism in sport?

In situations like this, it is quite important for us to always maintain our sanity and common sense, namely by always considering all the impacts of the decisions we will take. So that we will be part of the people who always maintain the integrity of sports, and play a role in overcoming the problem of racism in sports.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on April 11, 2024, 10:55:28 AM

Maybe if my only pursuit is to have fun playing gambling, I won't pay attention to that, and I don't care about that. For others, they might be really spoiled; who would want that?
And that kind of attitude is not really good, honestly speaking.

Who would want the referee to favor someone, as if the result is that someone took sides or was favored, so the other one lost? That's what I see.

I will not play a game where the competition is unfair, because it shows that the opponent being helped does not have the ability to win on his own so he only relies on help to win and beat others in that game. And to be honest, the party who wins because of help must also be ashamed that it was not because of his skill and the prize he received was also not from clean results. So I'm sure everyone probably won't like a game like that because it's really dirty.

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Quote from: uneng on April 14, 2024, 08:27:52 AM

Racism, which can be translated into lack of fairness in sports, can be a big issue for gamblers when placing their bets, because it means the games are being fixed and manipulated somehow. The gambler can do the most accurate analysis of the incoming match, but if a manipulation happens during the game by the referee or VAR, then it will completely compromise his bet. Therefore, I think it's a wise decision to avoid leagues and matches which are prone to be manipulated, as it increases the chances the games aren't going to have legit outcomes.

but once the bet has been placed it will not be able to change anything that happens when there is racism or cheating by the referee. The result of the match will determine whether we win or lose.
I wouldn't think too much about it. only bet on teams that I know their strengths. maybe become a little fanatical when betting on a team where we are fans. but we should pay attention to the chances of winning from the bets we make.

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Quote from: rodskee on April 14, 2024, 08:16:23 AM

yups , that is happening when the gambler is a sports fan as they are more
concern about the team success than their bets.referee takes big part in each
games and money is nothing if we are enjoying the game.

We should knows what we wants to choose, whether if the referee can't fairs enough or cheats for every team. It's better we don't thinks too serious about the match and place the bets if we wants. For those who are fans of the team can watch their favorite team play against the other team. We can only hopes that the referee will be fair enough with all teams so the match can run smoothly without any problems from the referee or others.

The referee who leads the match should make the match is a good entertain and will not doing something that can ruins their reputations.

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Quote from: 348Judah on April 11, 2024, 09:27:38 AM

Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Lack of fairness may be found in all part of sporting activities and we cannot avoid that because people have their own different ways of judging a situation, this will make me not to buy the idea of accepting that racism exist in the VAR system, because the way you may judge can be totally different from how others may do theirs, we have the way everyone sees and reason things to be different from each other, if there have been racism in the VAR system, maybe many would have been discouraged in them because of lack of fairness, but such does not exist.

Racism, which can be translated into lack of fairness in sports, can be a big issue for gamblers when placing their bets, because it means the games are being fixed and manipulated somehow. The gambler can do the most accurate analysis of the incoming match, but if a manipulation happens during the game by the referee or VAR, then it will completely compromise his bet. Therefore, I think it's a wise decision to avoid leagues and matches which are prone to be manipulated, as it increases the chances the games aren't going to have legit outcomes.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Maybe if my only pursuit is to have fun playing gambling, I won't pay attention to that, and I don't care about that. For others, they might be really spoiled; who would want that?
And that kind of attitude is not really good, honestly speaking.

Who would want the referee to favor someone, as if the result is that someone took sides or was favored, so the other one lost? That's what I see.

No one will place their bet if the situation and condition is like that. They wants to see the match is fair and lead by the referee so they will satisfy when they watch the match. We can place the bet without thinks about the referee or else because we wants to have fun and enjoy the match.

yups , that is happening when the gambler is a sports fan as they are more
concern about the team success than their bets.referee takes big part in each
games and money is nothing if we are enjoying the game.

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Besides that, we will not knows if the match is fair or not and we can just place the bets. That's only if we wants to place the bet but many people doesn't wants to see if the match is not fair. As long as someone doesn't thinks much about the fairness or the referee favor someone or else, that will not be a problem. Every gambler will knows what they should do and where they can place the bets so they will do something if they knows that the referee favor someone.

well gambling and sports are taking part of those mate and the best way to deal
with this ? is to enjoy and to have fun each bets.

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Quote from: 348Judah on April 11, 2024, 09:27:38 AM

Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Lack of fairness may be found in all part of sporting activities and we cannot avoid that because people have their own different ways of judging a situation, this will make me not to buy the idea of accepting that racism exist in the VAR system, because the way you may judge can be totally different from how others may do theirs, we have the way everyone sees and reason things to be different from each other, if there have been racism in the VAR system, maybe many would have been discouraged in them because of lack of fairness, but such does not exist.

Look, saying racism doesnt exist in VAR just because we see things differently? Thats weak. Its ignoring the problem. People have different views, sure, but that doesnt mean there's no such thing as bias built into the system. Saying "everyone sees it their own way" is a cop-out. Check the numbers, read the studies - they scream that there's a fairness problem. We cant hide behind opinions, we need facts. We need to be honest, dig deep, and fix this. True fairness means facing the possibility that the system itself is flawed.

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Quote from: adpinbr on April 10, 2024, 05:51:33 AM

Well, you are right on your statement and your topic but I would like us to talk about the winning aspect of it in football. why is the club always winning it seems that home club have more advantage even in prediction you will see that Hometown always have more chance of winning and people always play home win I really want to understand why it’s like a statement that was made the same question, but will be more clarification on this home winning it will be more understanding do it’s not all the time that the whole wins even when the prediction is to the fever but it’s always happen and the prediction usually work let’s see it is 70/30 if I am to guess on it.

Let me make it very clear to you. When they mean by home advantage it doesn't mean that any team at Home is 100% guaranteed to win the match. It doesn't happen like that in all games. But there is a higher chance to win the game this is because that is their own football training peach. It is believed that they have mastered every corner of the peach, and they are more familiar on how games are played on the peach more than their opposing teams. It's nothing but a phycological thing in football.

Another, thing is that the fans and their cheer up also helps a lot when they are at Home. Statistically when playing at home there are more fans to watch and cheer the game more than the number of fans that are present to cheer the opposing team.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 13, 2024, 07:57:55 PM

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Maybe if my only pursuit is to have fun playing gambling, I won't pay attention to that, and I don't care about that. For others, they might be really spoiled; who would want that?
And that kind of attitude is not really good, honestly speaking.

Who would want the referee to favor someone, as if the result is that someone took sides or was favored, so the other one lost? That's what I see.

The truth is, when there are manifestations of racism or something like that, it doesn't interest me, I don't like it because it is something that is not in my power to take things like that, it bothers me when there is racism and even more so in the deprotive bets, in fact that should not exist I think If we start to look at things, they are very different when it has nothing to do with sport, it is something that should not exist any less in sport. betting, in fact I don't know why in these cases this kind of thing still exists, this sets humanity back, whatever the distinction, sports or whatever.

On some case that this kind of action happening on certain games then provably I will avoid them because on that way I will show my protest and support to boycott those sports betting options out there so that they will be alerted that there's a lot of people doesn't like the actions they have done. Maybe this cases happen since some of those officials have a team they support on that's why maybe there's a manipulation happening that's why if this issue happen for sure we can't see any fairness on that match so its better to avoid that trying to risk and tolerate all the action they do since in long run a lot of gambler or people involve on that match will suffer.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on April 11, 2024, 10:55:28 AM

Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Maybe if my only pursuit is to have fun playing gambling, I won't pay attention to that, and I don't care about that. For others, they might be really spoiled; who would want that?
And that kind of attitude is not really good, honestly speaking.

Who would want the referee to favor someone, as if the result is that someone took sides or was favored, so the other one lost? That's what I see.

No one will place their bet if the situation and condition is like that. They wants to see the match is fair and lead by the referee so they will satisfy when they watch the match. We can place the bet without thinks about the referee or else because we wants to have fun and enjoy the match.

Besides that, we will not knows if the match is fair or not and we can just place the bets. That's only if we wants to place the bet but many people doesn't wants to see if the match is not fair. As long as someone doesn't thinks much about the fairness or the referee favor someone or else, that will not be a problem. Every gambler will knows what they should do and where they can place the bets so they will do something if they knows that the referee favor someone.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on April 11, 2024, 10:55:28 AM

Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Maybe if my only pursuit is to have fun playing gambling, I won't pay attention to that, and I don't care about that. For others, they might be really spoiled; who would want that?
And that kind of attitude is not really good, honestly speaking.

Who would want the referee to favor someone, as if the result is that someone took sides or was favored, so the other one lost? That's what I see.

The truth is, when there are manifestations of racism or something like that, it doesn't interest me, I don't like it because it is something that is not in my power to take things like that, it bothers me when there is racism and even more so in the deprotive bets, in fact that should not exist I think If we start to look at things, they are very different when it has nothing to do with sport, it is something that should not exist any less in sport. betting, in fact I don't know why in these cases this kind of thing still exists, this sets humanity back, whatever the distinction, sports or whatever.

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Quote from: Hispo on April 08, 2024, 05:42:36 AM

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Though, there would be a problem with taking such measures and adopting such a rule to deal with bad refees. See, referees are supposed to be respected by both teams and clubs in the match, regardless of the decision, if a referee alledgely does something which would benefit one of the teams playing and it could be considered to be unjust, then removing the referee would not solve the problem, because neither of the parties/teams playing is supposed to have the authority to remove him from the game and program a rematch or something similar, a third party evaluating the referee would be necessary and that will only make things more confusing an would not solve the dispute.

I'm not talking about a referee just doing something that can be considered unjust. Of course it can be very confusing and overall inconvenient. I'm talking about obvious racism. It can be spotted if it goes on repeatedly, and also if it's only confirmed by his/her social media posts.

Quote from: Hispo on April 08, 2024, 05:42:36 AM

As it stands today, it should be enough to keep a league or organizations of referees who have a very spotless behavior and had proven themselves to be unbiased. Also, I believe the salary of referees is an important thing to look at, of they are well paid, it is less likely for them to get involved into match fixing.

I agree with this. But unfortunately they can make unfair decisions based on their racism even being well paid.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Maybe if my only pursuit is to have fun playing gambling, I won't pay attention to that, and I don't care about that. For others, they might be really spoiled; who would want that?
And that kind of attitude is not really good, honestly speaking.

Who would want the referee to favor someone, as if the result is that someone took sides or was favored, so the other one lost? That's what I see.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I understand that some times we judge the action of some referees to be a racist because of the scene they put in play during the match like judging in favour of a particular team even when it's obvious that their deeds were wrong. I have had an experience where by after the wrong judgement of the referee FIFA had to demote him after the match so it's not a new experience. Irrespective of the fa t that we do experience some losses, no one enter into a casino hall or gambling site with the intention of loosing his money. However anytime I see cases like this I avoid those games because the referee might still put in same act.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Lack of fairness may be found in all part of sporting activities and we cannot avoid that because people have their own different ways of judging a situation, this will make me not to buy the idea of accepting that racism exist in the VAR system, because the way you may judge can be totally different from how others may do theirs, we have the way everyone sees and reason things to be different from each other, if there have been racism in the VAR system, maybe many would have been discouraged in them because of lack of fairness, but such does not exist.

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Quote from: adpinbr on April 10, 2024, 05:51:33 AM

why is the club always winning it seems that home club have more advantage even in prediction you will see that Hometown always have more chance of winning and people always play home win I really want to understand why it’s like a statement that was made the same question,

I think this is the wrong thread to ask about this. You should post this on a football discussion thread or something similar since the topic is quite different. Unless you want to discuss some racism issues that happen more in home matches of certain clubs, I think your post will be out of topic. I don't recall hearing such cases though.

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Well, you are right on your statement and your topic but I would like us to talk about the winning aspect of it in football. why is the club always winning it seems that home club have more advantage even in prediction you will see that Hometown always have more chance of winning and people always play home win I really want to understand why it’s like a statement that was made the same question, but will be more clarification on this home winning it will be more understanding do it’s not all the time that the whole wins even when the prediction is to the fever but it’s always happen and the prediction usually work let’s see it is 70/30 if I am to guess on it.

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Quote from: Betwrong on April 08, 2024, 03:06:03 AM

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Well, whether we like it or not, we cannot ignore the fact those biases exist and are still common in society, so inevitably some of it will sneak their way into the world of football and other sports.
I don't have any doubt there are efforts done by the football clubs and the different sport authorities to screen their referred in search of anything which could point out towards so bias against a specific nationality or race, but in the end people can simply lie about what they think or what they have done.

Perhaps that is why social media and digital footprints have become more relevant today than before, people can really dig out much of the past of others by using search engines, many racist and xenophobes have been caught that way before and will probably continue to be caught in the future.

I personally think that all decisions made by referees with such bias should be annulled and the game must be replayed at another time and with a different referee, obviously. I understand that setting such a rule would be not easy for all referees around, but only this way we save people from avoiding some games because of fear of possible racism by a sports referee.

Though, there would be a problem with taking such measures and adopting such a rule to deal with bad refees. See, referees are supposed to be respected by both teams and clubs in the match, regardless of the decision, if a referee alledgely does something which would benefit one of the teams playing and it could be considered to be unjust, then removing the referee would not solve the problem, because neither of the parties/teams playing is supposed to have the authority to remove him from the game and program a rematch or something similar, a third party evaluating the referee would be necessary and that will only make things more confusing an would not solve the dispute.

As it stands today, it should be enough to keep a league or organizations of referees who have a very spotless behavior and had proven themselves to be unbiased. Also, I believe the salary of referees is an important thing to look at, of they are well paid, it is less likely for them to get involved into match fixing.

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