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If it is proved about the racism whether that is from the referee or any player of the team or any team or something else then I would prefer not to play on the game once again whether it make me profit or not.
Keep pushing for good results. Profits are classify important and are made because it's the fuel that keeps it going and we're here to make utilization of every energy coming our paths. Racism on games and talking about me avoiding them? Well if they happen to be games that would generate me profits, ofcourse I'm sticking to them because I'm here to accumulate profits and be on the winning end, and not some random racist matters, should I care about? Because it won't stop and it will continue to exists in football.
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Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
What I remember is that in an English Premier League match, my favorite team lost because of the referee's attitude which was quite highlighted at that time and showed how he was being unfair and that many of his decisions were in favor of the home team.
However, the case I mentioned never made me consider betting or choosing a team that might benefit because there would be manipulation on the part of the referee, and in my opinion, for big tournaments or big leagues, manipulation would be difficult to detect even if there was news that there was manipulation, it was just my guess and it has never been proven except for a few cases in one of the big leagues in Europe more than a decade ago and it looks like it will no longer be easy to do except in small leagues or tournaments such as in tennis for small championships where there are athletes who have been proven to organize match results and is forever banned from competing.
Lately we have seen a lot of problems with refereeing and the VAR, for me there is still a lot of corruption, and in the PL, as in other leagues I have seen this type of behavior on the part of the referees, the truth is a little unpleasant because the corruption should not be like that in football, that spoils the whole spectacle and has made things look bad, for this reason when we are looking for ways to see if it is a problem or because they go through the case of racism, it is something that turns out to be very difficult, sometimes the racist peroans do not manifest it at all in such an important game in the major leagues of Europe, what happens is that now the cameras capture many things.

In fact, even the players cover their mouths when they speak, because they know that their lips are read, so these types of things are what have made everything in soccer be more careful, in fact I hope that the next World Cup will be better. things are better with respect to arbitration, I wait that give more importance to the tools of technology.

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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

In fact... it's difficult to find anyone who talks openly about this, as generally the "house advantage" is an obscure and poorly explained concept, but in fact it has a lot to do with this illegal favoritism that some referees apply.
There are those who say that this occurs because the "strength of the fans" acts negatively on the referees' morale, but a decent football referee will never let this affect him.

Regarding skin color (actual racism), I do not believe that this can harm, although cases of racism in football are still frequent, the countermeasures are effective in maintaining a balanced result. Furthermore, when it occurs, the media pays a lot of attention to the case and this discourages wrong or hasty action on the part of the event organizers.
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
If it is proved about the racism whether that is from the referee or any player of the team or any team or something else then I would prefer not to play on the game once again whether it make me profit or not.
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
Thank you for bringing this up because it has become a thing of concern to me. I noticed that in some leagues, the home team will always win whereas it is not like that in other leagues. I have tried asking questions in the past and I was told that the officials do their best to favor the home sides in order to save their head. I don't know if this can be called racism though.

Even the bookies usually give smaller odds to the home side irrespective of the strength of the away team. So to avoid losses, I usually avoid leagues where I notice this to be a norm. I want to play matches that I know there is fairness in the officiating as that will make me relaxed that the match will follow prediction.

Yes this as been a food for thought when I realized that this is how most officials tend to behave supporting or manipulating the game in favour of their hommies and it's quite unfortunate for such to be happening whereas the game was supposed to be fair,and it won't be because of that I'll start avoiding such games.
No,my love for that sports will just keep growing cause I know that there's always a lucky day for everyone and that won't stop me also not to bet on that game if I want to,cause whether racist or not sports will still live on.
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Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
What I remember is that in an English Premier League match, my favorite team lost because of the referee's attitude which was quite highlighted at that time and showed how he was being unfair and that many of his decisions were in favor of the home team.
However, the case I mentioned never made me consider betting or choosing a team that might benefit because there would be manipulation on the part of the referee, and in my opinion, for big tournaments or big leagues, manipulation would be difficult to detect even if there was news that there was manipulation, it was just my guess and it has never been proven except for a few cases in one of the big leagues in Europe more than a decade ago and it looks like it will no longer be easy to do except in small leagues or tournaments such as in tennis for small championships where there are athletes who have been proven to organize match results and is forever banned from competing.
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen an incident where racism affects the actual result but regardless of that it’s not nice to see in the modern game. It’s sad that it’s still present and not only in a few countries.

We’ve seen well publicised racism directed towards Vini Jnr of Real Madrid frequently. Spain and Italy both still have a problem, Eastern Europe is even worse. I don't know how we put a stop to it forever, maybe fines, banning orders and education.
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Racism? In fact, up to this moment it is still happening in the world community. whatever it is, including in the world of sports. so, things like this are not taboo issues for us. In fact, whether we realize it or not, we ourselves have the potential to become perpetrators of racism. well, now we are talking in a football context. In fact, several cases related to racism have occurred in the field. whether player to player, player to audience. on the contrary, spectators to players, referees to players, and everything in between. this phenomenon is nothing new in the world of sports.

Related to what you said, even in the big leagues racism will always exist. This is us, humans who sometimes show their dislike for something. however, at least there is a difference between small leagues and top European league competitions. In the top league, someone who commits racism will be punished if he is found to be openly doing it. Whoever he is, whether it's the fans who don't like the opposing team's players. Likewise with coaches, referees, if they do the same thing. In fact, VAR parties will also be subject to sanctions if they commit racism and manipulation. Well, at least the top leagues have very strict rules and regulations. In contrast to small domestic leagues, racism and manipulation are very common in practice. so, ideally it is better to choose a clear League competition rather than betting on a dubious League. well, we have some Top Leagues that are quite trustworthy.
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I think you confuse fixed game, bad refereeing and racism. Fixed game rarely can be seen in large sports events. Bad refereeing is more popular, but the reason of it can be low experience of a referee. But racism. How can it even be expressed? Call fault more often for players with specific skin color? I have never seen it from referee. I've seen players being disrespectful to others; for example not shaking opponents hand. I doubt that this greatly influences on a result. Fans may be rude, but a professional athlete must not pay attention to that.
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I mean not all games this could apply to, since gambling could be a fair game most of the time depending on the game right, if you have an opponent even though there is racism on it the game still works fai unless the casino itself is going to be the one that does the discrimination. I could imagine it on sports betting or some kind of game that has a referee, I mean there are a lot of games where the referee does a bad job of officiating the game, if racism occurs there they could easily take advantage of that, I've heard similar things about it on NBA games where one referee dislike one player, to the point where he always does a false call on that player every time he has the ball, that could easily lead to losing if. I could easily imagine losing that game, especially on making the false call in crucial moments, there are times I think in NBA finals that one wrong call could easily impact a lot on the game.

There was still no way around it, the best thing to do was just to avoid it in the end because it just wasn't going to be fair, there was for sure going to be some manipulation since they have the power to, I mean this referee could probably have bet as well so it's going to be easy to win some bet if they have the power to manipulate it right, if you know how it works already you might be able to take advantage of it.

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Honestly speaking this is the only problem that is affecting sports, especially if the match is local or country based, one will have a better support than the other, there will always be those who won't want the outsider to win because it's like a shame to challenge a country and go vs one on one in the same country, the home country will be more supported.

The only way to avoid this is to place bet on biggest matches, and pray that your favourite is well treated, still sports betting are game of luck, there are cases where the most favoured club still lose to the other that's not been treated very well, sometimes, luck will play out and the home owner will still lose.

But I do have a question, we are complaining because we are not the one at the other side, what will you have to say if the football club you are supporting has the upper hand and the football club they are going up against are the ones facing the racsism, will you still complain? Because I believe that people only think about themselves.

Alright fair point. In reality, when it comes to sports, people often prioritize their own interests. If my team benefited from biased support or racism against the opponent, I might be tempted to turn a blind eye. It's natural to be biased towards what benefits us. But deep down I know it's not right. Even if my team wins, it's still unfair to the other side. So while I might feel conflicted, I'd hope to acknowledge the injustice and advocate for fairness even if it means my team doesn't always come out on top
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
If I void my bet because I perceived that the refree will act in an influence manner, I won't regret my actions after all the refree may have acted in a wrong direction in the past, so doing that is like saving my bets from possible manipulations because he is a racist so his decision won't be accurately or accordingly.


In football is tough ground and the battle with racisms have been high and for that we have to be very careful when betting on games, if it racism from players it can be managed but if the refree is the actor of the racism it becomes an unbearable situation that one will need to avoid betting on such games.
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I'm there to gamble, I don't have the time to discriminate ruling of the gambling, my mani objective of betting is to make sure that what I predicted  happen, if the league match I include in my bets has the probability of attracting racism and which will favour a particular side, that's what I'm going to bet, I have no business in what happen in the game. I believe Fifa and other football federation are watching and knows the necessary action to take to handle the issue of racism but you know they wouldn't do that because they rather watch a particular player get insulted than lose the revenue they generated from fans that bought ticket.

There is one fact I will like you to know about football or any other popular sports, racism will never end, even outside football, there is high discrimination of blacks from other part of the world and despite all this rules and law put in place to stop it, it's like they aren't doing anything at all.
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You know, even in village football or in some low level league it is risky thing to do. A player or a team, against whom referee do racism actions, can beat this referee. Such players dont lose much if they  get banned from sports. It could be that my vision is spoiled by youtube, but I have seen videos where ref got punched in the face for bad refereeing. I would say it does not worth being racism. You earn little as a ref in local games and get punched in the face, or you are a top class ref, make something stupid during top league finals and get troubles for yourself and family, plus get fired.
Football matches in small regional areas are of a low level and companies and team owners regularly buy players from other countries, creating a dominant win condition but of course, tradition and some distinctions are inevitable, there are some cases where discrimination is deeply ingrained in the blood and bones, so to limit these problems, just raise professional qualifications as well as increase penalties for violators. But this problem needs to be solved by tournament organizers, as a regular gambler, avoiding these games is not necessary, just put a positive focus on the matter of betting analysis
This type of incident usually occurs in smaller tournaments or events. But if there is a desire to settle these issues properly then the  organizers can easily do it but I think they never want to do it. Because nowadays it has become a part of their income. Rather, if any such allegations are found, the organizers try to prove these are false allegations. If this situation continues, the impact on the game will continue to increase. To get rid of such incidents the regulatory body must be stricter and identify the offenders as punishable otherwise such complaints will continue to grow. As a gambler, if you see it is a suspicious match like this, you have to either exit it quickly or take it with luck. A good decision can be made after the gambler observes both the good and the bad.
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Yes, I avoid or don't want to play in a game when I see or find out if there is racism happening in the middle of the game or bet. That's bad luck for me, and it's not worth gambling when that happens. And it's also annoying, to be honest.

That's not funny, but the question is, why do they allow such things to enter a casino or gamble? Shouldn't that be taken away from a gambling game? Because it can even cause commotion sometimes, right?
It is very good when a casino always try there best to avoid sentiments because this is one of ways that would attract more gamblers to keep using the casino. People are not always interested in racism and it's not what we need to be emphasizing on everytime to the wrong people. I am more interested in a simple and less toxic games because if it's not avoided, it may create a severe problem that could keep causing conflicts in such a casino. Even when I am betting with friends I do avoid anything that is going to cause problem or hates between us since this is the only means we could stand strong and confuse.
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To be honest, I had never considered this to be a widespread possibility when comes to match manipulation, but thinking over it, it completely makes sense some referee happened to harbor racist feelings against one of the teams or against specific players of one of the teams.
I do not bet too often, as I usually only bet on big matches and in the football world cup, where it is pretty unlikely to be manipulated due to racism.
Though, thanks to this topic I will be sure to be more careful and check the history of the teams and of the referee if possible. Unfortunately, when comes to the world of football, there have been several infamous referees out there who completely ruin matches.

I assume this kind of problem only happens when the match is about a white versus a black team or perhaps when the referee is of a different race/skin color of those who are part of the team.
One of my main considerations on where i do make bets is indeed into those bigger leagues on which i dont really tend to dive in into those smaller ones on which there would really be tons of
possible manipulative or bias kind of decisioning due to those various reasons.I dont know about those racism kind of approach for those refs which their decisions would be diffent.
Its true that these things couldnt really be applied when you are really that going with those bigger leagues knowing that any odd decisions will really be making up some issues.
This is why it would be better that you should really be sticking into these games rather than on making yourself that pushing up on smaller ones.
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To be honest, I had never considered this to be a widespread possibility when comes to match manipulation, but thinking over it, it completely makes sense some referee happened to harbor racist feelings against one of the teams or against specific players of one of the teams.
I do not bet too often, as I usually only bet on big matches and in the football world cup, where it is pretty unlikely to be manipulated due to racism.
Though, thanks to this topic I will be sure to be more careful and check the history of the teams and of the referee if possible. Unfortunately, when comes to the world of football, there have been several infamous referees out there who completely ruin matches.

I assume this kind of problem only happens when the match is about a white versus a black team or perhaps when the referee is of a different race/skin color of those who are part of the team.
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You know, even in village football or in some low level league it is risky thing to do. A player or a team, against whom referee do racism actions, can beat this referee. Such players dont lose much if they  get banned from sports. It could be that my vision is spoiled by youtube, but I have seen videos where ref got punched in the face for bad refereeing. I would say it does not worth being racism. You earn little as a ref in local games and get punched in the face, or you are a top class ref, make something stupid during top league finals and get troubles for yourself and family, plus get fired.
Football matches in small regional areas are of a low level and companies and team owners regularly buy players from other countries, creating a dominant win condition but of course, tradition and some distinctions are inevitable, there are some cases where discrimination is deeply ingrained in the blood and bones, so to limit these problems, just raise professional qualifications as well as increase penalties for violators. But this problem needs to be solved by tournament organizers, as a regular gambler, avoiding these games is not necessary, just put a positive focus on the matter of betting analysis
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Yes, I avoid or don't want to play in a game when I see or find out if there is racism happening in the middle of the game or bet. That's bad luck for me, and it's not worth gambling when that happens. And it's also annoying, to be honest.

That's not funny, but the question is, why do they allow such things to enter a casino or gamble? Shouldn't that be taken away from a gambling game? Because it can even cause commotion sometimes, right?
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I know for instance in some tennis matches the accusation of racist against the umpire or the opponent comes very frequently.
Serena Williams for instance used to be very outspoken about this matter, saying quite often that umpire decisions may have been waged against her due to her being a person of African descent. Serena is recognized as one of the best players in women's tennis ever. Even in her announcement of retiring, she made it a statement to say that she had to endure racism through the decades long career that she had in high-stakes professional tennis.

To me, if a top player like Serena says things like this, it has to hold some merit. We better believe the people that have endured this because they know better. Indeed individual sports like tennis and golf have a lot of gate keeping. And umpire decisions in individual sports like tennis, table tennis etc can have a huge impact on match outcomes. So this is a very valid point. I think team sports are not as affected from this because even if a  person of color is affected by a racist decision from the referee in a football or basketball game, he can be substituted. Of course this puts his team in a disadvantage but the occasions where the match depends on a red card on football or basketball aren't as frequent as there's a tennis match judged on tight umpire decisions. At least in my experience as a fan of both sports.

And with tennis especially, the fact that it's a solo sport and requires a lot of personal investment, makes it more prone to racism because it's also tied to a lot of classism and rich white people often don't like working class people taking their spot in so called elite sports like tenis.
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