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From my own little view a referee that is a racist can never be put to watch over the game why because they knew that there must be a compromised while selecting a referee they would chose someone who is free from racist.
Even in boxing when they noticed the referee is playing some funny game they don't coming to fight against the person losing just to protect him from losing since the referee is not straightforward.
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I don’t feel like racism has much of an effect on most sports outcomes. There might be racist hooligan fans but the officials themselves are supposed to be impartial and shouldn’t be influenced by these factors.

There are some sports where corruption is prevalent like boxing and sometimes you see fighters like Lomachenko losing a close decision because the judges favored the American fighter. It’s not necessarily racism, but there can be certain prejudice depending on where the fight is taking place.
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I wonder how can I answer to OP question, when it isnt 100% clear before the game that there will be something with racism? When speaking about racism and sport, football comes to my mind first. How can I answer OP question then? Do I avoid betting on football because of racism? No and yes. I avoid betting on football because I dont like to watch it, not fan of it. I can't name any other sports popular for racism right away. I can give examples of players being disrespectful to their opponents, but it was not due to racism.
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So you heard rumors about some live bets being rigged, like the refs are in on it.  Look, I get the appeal of betting against a crooked system – who wouldn't want to win some easy money, right?  But here's the thing, trusting those rumors is a gamble itself.  There's no guarantee it's true, and even if it is, who knows what those shady characters are planning?  It's like playing a game with a deck of cards where the dealer keeps pulling out hidden aces – not exactly fair.

Besides, focusing on rigged games takes away the fun of actually knowing your stuff.  Analyzing the teams, the players, the whole situation – that's what makes a good bet.  It's like putting your skills to the test, not just blindly hoping the refs mess up.

You've heard of the Golden Rule, right?  "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."  Basically, it's about treating others the way you would want to be treated yourself.  When you think about sports betting, would you want to be on the receiving end of a rigged game?  Would you want to be cheated out of your money, or have the outcome of a game decided by unfair means?  Probably not.  So, by the Golden Rule, it's not ethical to try to profit from a rigged game, because you wouldn't, that doesn’t seem like to be responsible.
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Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

You mentioned 80% assurance so I'll go for it, I have seen a lot of manipulation and referees and judges manipulating the outcome those deeds are so obvious that you'll want to curse these people so I'll go for it this is gambling if there's a chance to win I need to take it.
There is bad officiating and racism it's the organization's problem you will hate these people but it occurs in any international event why do you bother to be concerned, take a chance to win after you collect your winning, voice your protest.
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Seems wild to me that someone could intentionally blow calls or whatever to try to impact gambling odds though.  Just way too much attention on these games for anything shady to slip through the cracks most likely.  More believable might be if certain refs had some internal biases about players from different backgrounds that unconsciously affected their decisions.  Or even coaches scheming certain ways 'cause of racial stereotypes about skillsets or something and  still would be real hard to prove in court, but I could see it happening.  That said, if you have an 80% chance of winning a bet, why wouldn't you?
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Never.  I have no idea how someone could even put the impacts of racism into the outcomes of sports games.  Traditionally speaking both sides of the ball have the same level of races playing in one game.  How would you pick one side vs the other based on something so rediculous as racism?
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So, you reckon refs might favor their favorite team? Totally possible. We're all human, and a little hometown bias can sneak in, right?  But these days, with their jobs on the line and those fancy replay machines watching every call, full-on cheating by refs is pretty rare.

Racism in sports? That's a trickier one.  It might not be like shouting slurs, but maybe a ref makes some questionable calls that happen to hurt players of color more often.  And even if international stars like Jokic stay silent, that doesn't mean it's not happening.  Language barriers, cultural differences, or fear of getting benched could all keep them quiet.

FIBA seeming cleaner? Maybe it's how they pick refs, or maybe the competition level is different.  Either way, good for them!


Refs who bring racism and favoritism into sports should be called out until they go viral for the wrong reasons. Sports (especially football) is one activity that binds people of different race, religion and geographical locations together, if bad referees and managements are allowed to go away with their discriminating acts, the love that exists between sports supporters will be ruined. There will definitely be no fun watching such sport and there won't be any need betting on it either. I will not support any game that allows for unjust discriminations. Such discriminations will definitely ruin my games and make it difficult for me to make correct analysis.
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Yes racism in sport is very common we've seen it in so many situations, especially when it comes to football. In my behalf I could take every African Cup as an example all the time when this subject is mentioned,  I feel like in most of football games no matter how good the rival team is, the hosting country makes her best to take the winning.

It honestly ruins the real entertainment of sports because cheating isn't good nor fair. And as you mentioned it could ruin someone's bet on a team he believes in his win putting a decent amount of money as a bet on them just for him to end up losing his bet because the referee took some bribery. I personally don't enjoy such dirty work and I avoid games that I sense some sort of racism in them even though it's really hard to predict it.

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So, you reckon refs might favor their favorite team? Totally possible. We're all human, and a little hometown bias can sneak in, right?  But these days, with their jobs on the line and those fancy replay machines watching every call, full-on cheating by refs is pretty rare.

Racism in sports? That's a trickier one.  It might not be like shouting slurs, but maybe a ref makes some questionable calls that happen to hurt players of color more often.  And even if international stars like Jokic stay silent, that doesn't mean it's not happening.  Language barriers, cultural differences, or fear of getting benched could all keep them quiet.

FIBA seeming cleaner? Maybe it's how they pick refs, or maybe the competition level is different.  Either way, good for them!
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Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
This is that thing that can happen any time within the game and honestly it’s hard to predict it especially if you already placed your bet before the game started, so I just ignore this one and focus on my bet where you can stop any time though. Racism looks like part of the game already as no one can control it, though of course we should not tolerate this one but it looks like the league also can’t control it because this is not a new scenario anymore.
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And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game.

I noticed that in some leagues, the home team will always win whereas it is not like that in other leagues. I have tried asking questions in the past and I was told that the officials do their best to favor the home sides in order to save their head. I don't know if this can be called racism though.

So now when your team loses it's racism, or referee is a racist because a white team won and a black team did not... What a bunch of bullshit.

No it can't be called racism when one team gets preferential treatment.

There's manipulation in sports, like it is in any other major event. You get manipulation in politics, banks manipulate money, your boss may be cheating you at work, but it's not racism. You guys are crazy with this racist shit. When you get stopped by the police for speeding it's probably also racism, just like when you don't get the job you applied for, the employee had to be a racist.

I don't see racism in major sports events, on the contrary, many champions in boxing, mma and other sports are black and nobody cares. We, normal people, don't see them as blacks, whites, or any other color, but as players, competitors, fighters.
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This happened a lot of times in boxing and I lost because of the obvious reason being rigged because of racism. Maybe this is the new normal nowadays in sports but yeah hard to predict when will happen so we really are left being disappointed with results though we just accept and move on.
I agree with the fact that racist behavior is been practiced in boxing whereby a certain region wins but due to the color of the skin, the judges will like to be partial in their judgment. For that reason, boxing is what I hardly bet on with someone or on the site because of racism partiality. I can happily watch the boxing fights but not stake on them.

I can agree that boxing sports is one of the sports being guilty of this type of bigotry. And sometimes, it is very obvious. If you believe that there is some kind of manipulation in the results, much better not to bet at all. Though we can only tell such racism happened after the fight is over and the results are out. But next time, do take note the possible factors why such event turned out that way -
> is it because the home turf of the winner?
> what about the nationalities of the judges?
> the standing of the athletes involved? who is more popular?
> who is fans' favourite?
> how about the referee? his nationality?
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So you heard rumors about some live bets being rigged, like the refs are in on it.  Look, I get the appeal of betting against a crooked system – who wouldn't want to win some easy money, right?  But here's the thing, trusting those rumors is a gamble itself.  There's no guarantee it's true, and even if it is, who knows what those shady characters are planning?  It's like playing a game with a deck of cards where the dealer keeps pulling out hidden aces – not exactly fair.

Besides, focusing on rigged games takes away the fun of actually knowing your stuff.  Analyzing the teams, the players, the whole situation – that's what makes a good bet.  It's like putting your skills to the test, not just blindly hoping the refs mess up.
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Interesting topic and I was thinking about something on a similar idea

Would it be ok to trade a market that deals with something you’re conpletely against like guns or drugs or or clear ponzis whatever

At first my reaction was better to not even provide liquidity to this kind of things but yesterday I was thinking thar: if you’re gonna trade these better do ot with skill and in your best and extract value from this market

Still not sure and with gambling its even worse because its way more luck than skill
But still interesting to consider
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Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
maybe manipulation or racism in football can happen but I'm not sure if it happens in big leagues or popular leagues.
currently I have never experienced something wrong like something being manipulated in the big leagues which I currently often use as a place to bet but it might often happen in local leagues or small leagues and that is the reason I always avoid betting on local football matches very often there is racism related to such manipulation.
I'm not saying that it will never happen in the big leagues, but the popularity of the big leagues is very important and we will continue to ensure that we don't make mistakes that destroy the league's popularity, so manipulation is very rare in big leagues like the EPL.

In the past, I often placed bets on local football matches and if I won, the profits I would get were quite large, but the risks were very high and I was caught by the local bookmakers bribing several players to perform badly so that my favorite team would lose and the bet I made at that time on live betting when watching football live and until now the local league is very quiet and almost no one wants to bet on any of these matches.
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Last week match of Real Madrid and Valencia to be precise experienced a lot of racism, this is not the first time this always happened anytime Vinicious is present in those games but he always humble them with goals which he did but did the game ended well? No. The officiating teams did a bad job in the last goal Bellingham scored, worst officiating I have seen so far and this is why I don't bet on games they called Derby and El classic to save my self from different embracement.

Sports that involve racism is are easy to predicts by some players actually, you just look at what you think is impossible and then stake on that. If you see two hot teams are having a match or games, just bet on them that the match will not end as draw, the aggressiveness in those games will make you win but in spite of this, I hope racism end forever, we are bringing hateful altitude of 80s to 20s and that is very bad.
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This happened a lot of times in boxing and I lost because of the obvious reason being rigged because of racism. Maybe this is the new normal nowadays in sports but yeah hard to predict when will happen so we really are left being disappointed with results though we just accept and move on.
I agree with the fact that racist behavior is been practiced in boxing whereby a certain region wins but due to the color of the skin, the judges will like to be partial in their judgment. For that reason, boxing is what I hardly bet on with someone or on the site because of racism partiality. I can happily watch the boxing fights but not stake on them.
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Never really thought something like this could happen. Could one example be like that Ngannou vs Fury?  So many have claimed Ngannou won that fight.

It will still not make me avoid sport though. The love for the sport I think will still win and will still bet on matches regardless of the outcome of some fights. I wouldn't generalize all matches haave racism involved in it. 
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
I cannot see any instances wherein racism is involved. Manipulation of games is not concerned with a gambler's or fighter's race. It could have a possibility to happen with one versus one sport such as boxing but biases are supposed to be removed with judges and scoreboards. Also, it would be discriminative on the eyes of audiences and would be too obvious in my perspective. Leagues aren't run by few people alone and they won't be happy with matches being percieved in relation with cheating. Manipulation is evident in some instances but I doubt it would be common with most matches.
I bet on some spots where it's hard to make a biased decision to insulate myself somewhat from situations like this. In one word, I believe in big events. Because I have already considered some of the minor league games where there has been ample evidence of racist behaviour. Moreover, small games are basically just a form of cheating with gamblers. I keep an eye on English Premier League, La Liga Spanish league and some other major leagues for stable bets in such situations. While no misses are used in smaller games, it is not possible to do so in larger events.
Would be more likely with matches involving huge names. The only instance I assumed about fixed matches are ones involving jake paul and mayweather, to give an example. This assumption is due to their 'titles' as athletes. Primarily, Mayweather being undefeated would ring a bell regardless of who Jake Paul is. In those instances I am not comfortable with, I just choose not to bet at al and just enjoy the match. Manipulation of matches in the first place is not something that would be confessed and will just be subjectively viewed as an audience.
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