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Quote from: Okurkabinladin on May 31, 2017, 10:13:12 PM

Why would anyone believe in any religion. If you do how do you know which religion is the true one and which one is not? You can't just pick one because you will go to hell if you are wrong, most of the times. The bible is just a really bad book anyways. It is full of inconsistencies, murder which is endorsed by God, God himself murders everyone, he also thinks that not believing in him should be punished with eternal torture. It doesn't matter if you are a good person or not, the only thing that matters is that you believe in him.

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

https://infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/contradictions.html

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/08/19/an-incredible-interactive-chart-of-biblical-contradictions/

Firstly, you can fully understand bible because the one who know the truly meaning is the one who wrote it.
Second, our mind is limited. That's why we can't understand God's mind.
Third, YOU NEED TO LEARN BIBLE IN THE RIGHT WAY AND IN DEPTH. IF YOU JUST READ AND UNDERSTAND IT LITERALLY, THEN IT'S ALL NONSENSE AND CONTRADICTION. PLEASE READ WITHIN THE CONTEXT, TIME AND PLACE, WHAT KIND OF WRITTEN WORK IS THAT. BIBLE WRITTEN BY VARIOUS PEOPLE IN VARIOUS AGE. LEARN BIBLE IN THE RIGHT WAY.

You cant understand the bible and you cant understand God but you believe in him and know he exists, this for me seems extremely contradictory. If you cant fully understand God or the Bible then what's the point? If the bible is really the word of God, then it should be clear to anyone, it should be easy to understand to everyone because that's the only thing the almighty God left humanity, a book. If I understand the book literally is garbage, you say. Why would God do that? To deceive us?

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Quote from: FomoATH on May 31, 2017, 06:18:21 AM

Quote from: gondes21 on May 31, 2017, 09:47:48 PM

Why would anyone believe in any religion. If you do how do you know which religion is the true one and which one is not? You can't just pick one because you will go to hell if you are wrong, most of the times. The bible is just a really bad book anyways. It is full of inconsistencies, murder which is endorsed by God, God himself murders everyone, he also thinks that not believing in him should be punished with eternal torture. It doesn't matter if you are a good person or not, the only thing that matters is that you believe in him.

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

https://infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/contradictions.html

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/08/19/an-incredible-interactive-chart-of-biblical-contradictions/

Because in most cases religion is already a tradition and people themselves contradict what they believe. They even just can not explain where their religion came from and what it leads to.

How old are you? Because you obviously havent read anything about buddhism, christianity or islam. Or even about their history.

Religions full of contradiction were weeded out by natural selection. Only select few survived to present day. Not, because they can replace your math book, but because their teaching reflects laws of nature. Let that sink in.

Quote from: FomoATH on May 31, 2017, 06:18:21 AM

Why would anyone believe in any religion. If you do how do you know which religion is the true one and which one is not? You can't just pick one because you will go to hell if you are wrong, most of the times. The bible is just a really bad book anyways. It is full of inconsistencies, murder which is endorsed by God, God himself murders everyone, he also thinks that not believing in him should be punished with eternal torture. It doesn't matter if you are a good person or not, the only thing that matters is that you believe in him.

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

https://infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/contradictions.html

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/08/19/an-incredible-interactive-chart-of-biblical-contradictions/

Firstly, you can fully understand bible because the one who know the truly meaning is the one who wrote it.
Second, our mind is limited. That's why we can't understand God's mind.
Third, YOU NEED TO LEARN BIBLE IN THE RIGHT WAY AND IN DEPTH. IF YOU JUST READ AND UNDERSTAND IT LITERALLY, THEN IT'S ALL NONSENSE AND CONTRADICTION. PLEASE READ WITHIN THE CONTEXT, TIME AND PLACE, WHAT KIND OF WRITTEN WORK IS THAT. BIBLE WRITTEN BY VARIOUS PEOPLE IN VARIOUS AGE. LEARN BIBLE IN THE RIGHT WAY.

Precisely, thank you. Adult will obviosuly benefit from the bible more, than a child as he can read between the lines. Religious text doesnt explain how something works (thats the work of scientists, that has been around for only the last couple of centuries), it is not manual to electronics. What it does is putting natural phenomena in context of our existence, teaching us how to treat it without disturbing nature itself. It teaches men of humility and of hope.

Thank you, you understand!

Many people believe in God because they need Faith and many simply can not live without it. Every person who faces his or her life faces difficulties very often turn to God and decides how his problem is morally.

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Quote from: gondes21 on May 31, 2017, 09:47:48 PM

Why would anyone believe in any religion. If you do how do you know which religion is the true one and which one is not? You can't just pick one because you will go to hell if you are wrong, most of the times. The bible is just a really bad book anyways. It is full of inconsistencies, murder which is endorsed by God, God himself murders everyone, he also thinks that not believing in him should be punished with eternal torture. It doesn't matter if you are a good person or not, the only thing that matters is that you believe in him.

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

https://infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/contradictions.html

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/08/19/an-incredible-interactive-chart-of-biblical-contradictions/

Because in most cases religion is already a tradition and people themselves contradict what they believe. They even just can not explain where their religion came from and what it leads to.

How old are you? Because you obviously havent read anything about buddhism, christianity or islam. Or even about their history.

Religions full of contradiction were weeded out by natural selection. Only select few survived to present day. Not, because they can replace your math book, but because their teaching reflects laws of nature. Let that sink in.

Why would anyone believe in any religion. If you do how do you know which religion is the true one and which one is not? You can't just pick one because you will go to hell if you are wrong, most of the times. The bible is just a really bad book anyways. It is full of inconsistencies, murder which is endorsed by God, God himself murders everyone, he also thinks that not believing in him should be punished with eternal torture. It doesn't matter if you are a good person or not, the only thing that matters is that you believe in him.

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

https://infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/contradictions.html

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/08/19/an-incredible-interactive-chart-of-biblical-contradictions/

Firstly, you can fully understand bible because the one who know the truly meaning is the one who wrote it.
Second, our mind is limited. That's why we can't understand God's mind.
Third, YOU NEED TO LEARN BIBLE IN THE RIGHT WAY AND IN DEPTH. IF YOU JUST READ AND UNDERSTAND IT LITERALLY, THEN IT'S ALL NONSENSE AND CONTRADICTION. PLEASE READ WITHIN THE CONTEXT, TIME AND PLACE, WHAT KIND OF WRITTEN WORK IS THAT. BIBLE WRITTEN BY VARIOUS PEOPLE IN VARIOUS AGE. LEARN BIBLE IN THE RIGHT WAY.

Precisely, thank you. Adult will obviosuly benefit from the bible more, than a child as he can read between the lines. Religious text doesnt explain how something works (thats the work of scientists, that has been around for only the last couple of centuries), it is not manual to electronics. What it does is putting natural phenomena in context of our existence, teaching us how to treat it without disturbing nature itself. It teaches men of humility and of hope.

Thank you, you understand!

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Why would anyone believe in any religion. If you do how do you know which religion is the true one and which one is not? You can't just pick one because you will go to hell if you are wrong, most of the times. The bible is just a really bad book anyways. It is full of inconsistencies, murder which is endorsed by God, God himself murders everyone, he also thinks that not believing in him should be punished with eternal torture. It doesn't matter if you are a good person or not, the only thing that matters is that you believe in him.

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

https://infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/contradictions.html

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/08/19/an-incredible-interactive-chart-of-biblical-contradictions/

Firstly, you can fully understand bible because the one who know the truly meaning is the one who wrote it.
Second, our mind is limited. That's why we can't understand God's mind.
Third, YOU NEED TO LEARN BIBLE IN THE RIGHT WAY AND IN DEPTH. IF YOU JUST READ AND UNDERSTAND IT LITERALLY, THEN IT'S ALL NONSENSE AND CONTRADICTION. PLEASE READ WITHIN THE CONTEXT, TIME AND PLACE, WHAT KIND OF WRITTEN WORK IS THAT. BIBLE WRITTEN BY VARIOUS PEOPLE IN VARIOUS AGE. LEARN BIBLE IN THE RIGHT WAY.

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Quote from: Dahhi on July 26, 2016, 02:29:25 PM

Why would anyone believe in any religion. If you do how do you know which religion is the true one and which one is not? You can't just pick one because you will go to hell if you are wrong, most of the times. The bible is just a really bad book anyways. It is full of inconsistencies, murder which is endorsed by God, God himself murders everyone, he also thinks that not believing in him should be punished with eternal torture. It doesn't matter if you are a good person or not, the only thing that matters is that you believe in him.

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

https://infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/contradictions.html

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/08/19/an-incredible-interactive-chart-of-biblical-contradictions/

Because in most cases religion is already a tradition and people themselves contradict what they believe. They even just can not explain where their religion came from and what it leads to.

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Yes, I believe in God.

FYI: You are to write God as G-o-d, not g-o-d.

My reasons: Nature follows an orderly and precise pattern, so precise that you can forecast the whether. Scientific principles are based on the precise laws of nature, we have technology because nature can be counted on to behave in a particular manner ALL the time.
That screams creation.

Nature was created, that is why it's so precise.
If you say no it wasn't, you might as well tell me bitcoin and the blockchain just came into existence, they were not developed by someone.

Wise explanation...
Nothing can be happened automatically, everything has a base, nature has been created and system has been formulated by the God. There are a lot symbols which certifie the existence of the God. The holy Bible, the holy Quran suggest us the best way to lead our life and that way is directed by the God or Allah whatever you call.

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Why would anyone believe in any religion. If you do how do you know which religion is the true one and which one is not? You can't just pick one because you will go to hell if you are wrong, most of the times. The bible is just a really bad book anyways. It is full of inconsistencies, murder which is endorsed by God, God himself murders everyone, he also thinks that not believing in him should be punished with eternal torture. It doesn't matter if you are a good person or not, the only thing that matters is that you believe in him.

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

https://infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/contradictions.html

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/08/19/an-incredible-interactive-chart-of-biblical-contradictions/

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Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)

I believe in God, but I do not accept any of the religions. God is one and he directs man wherever he needs, and religion interferes with normal living.

Religion is not created by God, but by the government in order to manage people. That is why many people deny God. They do not understand the differences between God and religion. I believe in God and I am sure that he helps me to live.

Let me get this straight. So you know your religion was invented by people and is essentially bunch of horse shit but you want to believe in it anyway.

I think it makes you more retarded than an average Baptist church goer. They are ignorant, you are not.

God concept was MADE UP by people. Why don't you believe in Superman or Santa Claus?

There are many other interesting novels with more colorful characters.

Do you even know what that imaginary God of yours is? Some ghost somewhere, who knows where, that listens to 6 billions praying to him? Do I need to go on?

Actually, it is your religion that doesn't make any sense. Cool

What religion? I reject all religious claims. I have no religion. I don't need one.

Religion has nothing to do with faith in God or other supernatural beings. Religion rather refers to historical tales.

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Yes I really believe ....
The reason is because I can exist in this world because there is this nature, because I can live, because I have a family because I can talk, and everything I can enjoy now is the power of god
And will continue to increase that trust

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Quote from: gondes21 on May 30, 2017, 11:16:52 PM

What religion? I reject all religious claims. I have no religion. I don't need one.

That's an interesting religion you have there. Cool

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Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)

I believe in God, but I do not accept any of the religions. God is one and he directs man wherever he needs, and religion interferes with normal living.

Religion is not created by God, but by the government in order to manage people. That is why many people deny God. They do not understand the differences between God and religion. I believe in God and I am sure that he helps me to live.

Let me get this straight. So you know your religion was invented by people and is essentially bunch of horse shit but you want to believe in it anyway.

I think it makes you more retarded than an average Baptist church goer. They are ignorant, you are not.

God concept was MADE UP by people. Why don't you believe in Superman or Santa Claus?

There are many other interesting novels with more colorful characters.

Do you even know what that imaginary God of yours is? Some ghost somewhere, who knows where, that listens to 6 billions praying to him? Do I need to go on?

Actually, it is your religion that doesn't make any sense. Cool

What religion? I reject all religious claims. I have no religion. I don't need one.

You actually don't need religion to believe in God.
Life after death is what religion "promise" to people.
How about you?
Do you believe life after death?

By the definition of "religion," everyone has it whether or not he needs it to believe in God, etc.

Cool

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Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)

I believe in God, but I do not accept any of the religions. God is one and he directs man wherever he needs, and religion interferes with normal living.

Religion is not created by God, but by the government in order to manage people. That is why many people deny God. They do not understand the differences between God and religion. I believe in God and I am sure that he helps me to live.

Let me get this straight. So you know your religion was invented by people and is essentially bunch of horse shit but you want to believe in it anyway.

I think it makes you more retarded than an average Baptist church goer. They are ignorant, you are not.

God concept was MADE UP by people. Why don't you believe in Superman or Santa Claus?

There are many other interesting novels with more colorful characters.

Do you even know what that imaginary God of yours is? Some ghost somewhere, who knows where, that listens to 6 billions praying to him? Do I need to go on?

Actually, it is your religion that doesn't make any sense. Cool

What religion? I reject all religious claims. I have no religion. I don't need one.

You actually don't need religion to believe in God.
Life after death is what religion "promise" to people.
How about you?
Do you believe life after death?

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Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)

I believe in God, but I do not accept any of the religions. God is one and he directs man wherever he needs, and religion interferes with normal living.

Religion is not created by God, but by the government in order to manage people. That is why many people deny God. They do not understand the differences between God and religion. I believe in God and I am sure that he helps me to live.

Let me get this straight. So you know your religion was invented by people and is essentially bunch of horse shit but you want to believe in it anyway.

I think it makes you more retarded than an average Baptist church goer. They are ignorant, you are not.

God concept was MADE UP by people. Why don't you believe in Superman or Santa Claus?

There are many other interesting novels with more colorful characters.

Do you even know what that imaginary God of yours is? Some ghost somewhere, who knows where, that listens to 6 billions praying to him? Do I need to go on?

Actually, it is your religion that doesn't make any sense. Cool

What religion? I reject all religious claims. I have no religion. I don't need one.

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Quote from: af_newbie on May 30, 2017, 07:11:52 PM

Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)

I believe in God, but I do not accept any of the religions. God is one and he directs man wherever he needs, and religion interferes with normal living.

Religion is not created by God, but by the government in order to manage people. That is why many people deny God. They do not understand the differences between God and religion. I believe in God and I am sure that he helps me to live.

Let me get this straight. So you know your religion was invented by people and is essentially bunch of horse shit but you want to believe in it anyway.

I think it makes you more retarded than an average Baptist church goer. They are ignorant, you are not.

God concept was MADE UP by people. Why don't you believe in Superman or Santa Claus?

There are many other interesting novels with more colorful characters.

Do you even know what that imaginary God of yours is? Some ghost somewhere, who knows where, that listens to 6 billions praying to him? Do I need to go on?

Actually, it is your religion that doesn't make any sense. Cool

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Quote from: Okurkabinladin on May 30, 2017, 06:43:48 PM

Quote from: Okurkabinladin on May 30, 2017, 06:43:48 PM

Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)

I believe in God, but I do not accept any of the religions. God is one and he directs man wherever he needs, and religion interferes with normal living.

Religion is not created by God, but by the government in order to manage people. That is why many people deny God. They do not understand the differences between God and religion. I believe in God and I am sure that he helps me to live.

Let me get this straight. So you know your religion was invented by people and is essentially bunch of horse shit but you want to believe in it anyway.

I think it makes you more retarded than an average Baptist church goer. They are ignorant, you are not.

God concept was MADE UP by people. Why don't you believe in Superman or Santa Claus?

There are many other interesting novels with more colorful characters.

Do you even know what that imaginary God of yours is? Some ghost somewhere, who knows where, that listens to 6 billions praying to him? Do I need to go on?

And what is to you, that there are people, who inherently understand, they arent mere animals living ultimately meaningless and finite life like you do? Is it that offensive, that indeed majority of humankind either via organized religion or on their own want to ascend to higher existence and find peace within themselves?

You on your own accepted the role of pariah consumed by hatred of those not of poor soul like you. May God forgive you for your blind hate of fellow human beings.

EDIT.: Your Superman did not create Universe, laws of physics or human soul, did he? Less talking and more thinking. Thank you.

Of course living your life believing in nonsense is not offensive to me. It is your life.

What is offensive when you say your ideas make any sense. Religious ideas offend my intelligence. That is what is offensive.
When you say with straight face that your imaginary friend created this universe and will punish me for not believing in him.
Or that I should die because I am non-believer, that is what is offensive.

Ask yourself this question: "I am assuming that it makes you happy seeing your family not harmed in any way. Now imagine, your son will turn gay, when you and your son die, he goes to hell, you go to heaven. Would you be happy in heaven knowing that your son is in extreme pain for eternity? Would that be heaven to you?" The whole concept is ridiculous. That is what is offensive.

The reasons why some go to Heaven and some go to Hel don't work exactly like you say.

Just because you attempt to believe that God doesn't exist, or that He isn't your friend Who is constantly trying to save you, doesn't mean that He isn't there for you.

Cool

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Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)

I believe in God, but I do not accept any of the religions. God is one and he directs man wherever he needs, and religion interferes with normal living.

Religion is not created by God, but by the government in order to manage people. That is why many people deny God. They do not understand the differences between God and religion. I believe in God and I am sure that he helps me to live.

Let me get this straight. So you know your religion was invented by people and is essentially bunch of horse shit but you want to believe in it anyway.

I think it makes you more retarded than an average Baptist church goer. They are ignorant, you are not.

God concept was MADE UP by people. Why don't you believe in Superman or Santa Claus?

There are many other interesting novels with more colorful characters.

Do you even know what that imaginary God of yours is? Some ghost somewhere, who knows where, that listens to 6 billions praying to him? Do I need to go on?

And what is to you, that there are people, who inherently understand, they arent mere animals living ultimately meaningless and finite life like you do? Is it that offensive, that indeed majority of humankind either via organized religion or on their own want to ascend to higher existence and find peace within themselves?

You on your own accepted the role of pariah consumed by hatred of those not of poor soul like you. May God forgive you for your blind hate of fellow human beings.

EDIT.: Your Superman did not create Universe, laws of physics or human soul, did he? Less talking and more thinking. Thank you.

Of course living your life believing in nonsense is not offensive to me. It is your life.

What is offensive when you say your ideas make any sense. Religious ideas offend my intelligence. That is what is offensive.
When you say with straight face that your imaginary friend created this universe and will punish me for not believing in him.
Or that I should die because I am non-believer, that is what is offensive.

Ask yourself this question: "I am assuming that it makes you happy seeing your family not harmed in any way. Now imagine, your son will turn gay, when you and your son die, he goes to hell, you go to heaven. Would you be happy in heaven knowing that your son is in extreme pain for eternity? Would that be heaven to you?" The whole concept is ridiculous. That is what is offensive.

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Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)

I believe in God, but I do not accept any of the religions. God is one and he directs man wherever he needs, and religion interferes with normal living.

Religion is not created by God, but by the government in order to manage people. That is why many people deny God. They do not understand the differences between God and religion. I believe in God and I am sure that he helps me to live.

Let me get this straight. So you know your religion was invented by people and is essentially bunch of horse shit but you want to believe in it anyway.

I think it makes you more retarded than an average Baptist church goer. They are ignorant, you are not.

God concept was MADE UP by people. Why don't you believe in Superman or Santa Claus?

There are many other interesting novels with more colorful characters.

Do you even know what that imaginary God of yours is? Some ghost somewhere, who knows where, that listens to 6 billions praying to him? Do I need to go on?

And what is to you, that there are people, who inherently understand, they arent mere animals living ultimately meaningless and finite life like you do? Is it that offensive, that indeed majority of humankind either via organized religion or on their own want to ascend to higher existence and find peace within themselves?

You on your own accepted the role of pariah consumed by hatred of those not of poor soul like you. May God forgive you for your blind hate of fellow human beings.

EDIT.: Your Superman did not create Universe, laws of physics or human soul, did he? Less talking and more thinking. Thank you.

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Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)

I believe in God, but I do not accept any of the religions. God is one and he directs man wherever he needs, and religion interferes with normal living.

Religion is not created by God, but by the government in order to manage people. That is why many people deny God. They do not understand the differences between God and religion. I believe in God and I am sure that he helps me to live.

Let me get this straight. So you know your religion was invented by people and is essentially bunch of horse shit but you want to believe in it anyway.

I think it makes you more retarded than an average Baptist church goer. They are ignorant, you are not.

God concept was MADE UP by people. Why don't you believe in Superman or Santa Claus?

There are many other interesting novels with more colorful characters.

Do you even know what that imaginary God of yours is? Some ghost somewhere, who knows where, that listens to 6 billions praying to him? Do I need to go on?

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Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)

I believe in God, but I do not accept any of the religions. God is one and he directs man wherever he needs, and religion interferes with normal living.

Religion is not created by God, but by the government in order to manage people. That is why many people deny God. They do not understand the differences between God and religion. I believe in God and I am sure that he helps me to live.

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