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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on May 20, 2023, 06:29:49 PM

When it comes to gambling we just have to be very careful with decision we make because it might cost us alot.
I could remember having a friend who love playing online betting and it all happened that while he was trying to stake a game something happened, his little sister was complaining to him about what he did and he left his phone just to correct what his sister was complaining to him, before he got back to his phone the games he was suppose to play has started and all the options he choose played accordingly. It was hell for the little girl. Now he had to channel all his anger to her, but was it her fault?
I still don't know why we have to blame someone for our mistakes, gambling is for those who are ready to take the fall. To me I can't blame my loss on someone.

That story you just told us is rather a problem on keeping the attention on the game when it is needed. He could have gone and do whatever he needed to do if he was rolling dices or playing mines, for example.

On the other hand, for no reason anyone should get distracted while gambling money on a crash game. That would lead to almost guaranteed frustration. A few seconds in a crash game could be the difference between a total loss of the wager and a X2 at minimum. Not even mentioning the possibility of x100 or higher.

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When it comes to gambling we just have to be very careful with decision we make because it might cost us alot.
I could remember having a friend who love playing online betting and it all happened that while he was trying to stake a game something happened, his little sister was complaining to him about what he did and he left his phone just to correct what his sister was complaining to him, before he got back to his phone the games he was suppose to play has started and all the options he choose played accordingly. It was hell for the little girl. Now he had to channel all his anger to her, but was it her fault?
I still don't know why we have to blame someone for our mistakes, gambling is for those who are ready to take the fall. To me I can't blame my loss on someone.

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Quote from: serjent05 on May 18, 2023, 12:41:49 PM

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on May 17, 2023, 07:35:36 AM

I actually I agree with you even though I believe in self control. I observed gambling atmosphere. All those shining lights, flashing color, sound effects are not there for nothing. Those exist to convince you. Sometimes even girl laborers there can blow your mind with their beauty etc. Everything in casino has purpose in my opinion. I feel like school teachers should focus on effects of casinos in classes to warn kids. When someone learn this at young age, consciousness will help a lot.

Many countries are still think gambling is taboo, so they want to stay away to talk about gambling matters, what they will say it the bad side of gambling e.g. addiction, lose money, ruin your life etc. As we know kids sometime will not listen everything and they're have a high curiosity to try anything they want. This make them fall to gambling and become a gambling addict. Teachers need to explain about both advantage and disadvantage, also don't force them to not touch gambling. Let them to choose and monitor them if they want to try.

So do these kids blame other people when they lose in their gambling activity? I guess others do especially when someone had encouraged or suggested them to bet on something and losses. Anyway, I also agree that the teacher must educate kids about the negative effect of gambling. There should be no room for encouragement or lapses that these kids will take the path of trying gambling for themselves. Don't let these kids choose for themselves in terms of gambling activity. They must be forbidden reason why casinos only allowed 18 plus of age and not younger kids or teens.

Gambling is not for the weak you have to be set for whatever comes as you gamble
Even when you follow the best punters you do not expect them to do magic
And those who blame others for loses are complete losers when you lose you analyze and also learn to be back up

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I think this case is relatively very small as co.lated to a recent thread I just stumbled on where a player sued a casino wmfor not raising an alarm after he has lost over fifty eight thousand dollars($58,000) in a day in just gambling and I couldn't stop laughing out loud, like what the hell will someone intentionally gamble and intentionally loss such amount of money and still has the guys to point fingers at the casino for not raising an alarm and that if an alarm was raised, then It wasn't raised enough.
I think with all of this recent happening, there might more disclaimers by casinos so as to avoid any unnecessary embarrassment as I find this very embarrassing

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on May 17, 2023, 09:00:25 AM

Quote from: Pierre 2 on May 17, 2023, 07:35:36 AM

I actually I agree with you even though I believe in self control. I observed gambling atmosphere. All those shining lights, flashing color, sound effects are not there for nothing. Those exist to convince you. Sometimes even girl laborers there can blow your mind with their beauty etc. Everything in casino has purpose in my opinion. I feel like school teachers should focus on effects of casinos in classes to warn kids. When someone learn this at young age, consciousness will help a lot.

Many countries are still think gambling is taboo, so they want to stay away to talk about gambling matters, what they will say it the bad side of gambling e.g. addiction, lose money, ruin your life etc. As we know kids sometime will not listen everything and they're have a high curiosity to try anything they want. This make them fall to gambling and become a gambling addict. Teachers need to explain about both advantage and disadvantage, also don't force them to not touch gambling. Let them to choose and monitor them if they want to try.

And this is the problem with taboos and the outright prohibition of something for no reason at all, this discourages the open discussion about it and when the people which are more susceptible to become addicted find themselves in the position to gamble they do not have the tools necessary to resist and avoid this scenario, so it is interesting to think that such bans are in fact one of the causes of addictions in general, as it is known that awareness campaigns help to diminish the rate at which people can get addicted.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on May 17, 2023, 09:00:25 AM

Quote from: Pierre 2 on May 17, 2023, 07:35:36 AM

I actually I agree with you even though I believe in self control. I observed gambling atmosphere. All those shining lights, flashing color, sound effects are not there for nothing. Those exist to convince you. Sometimes even girl laborers there can blow your mind with their beauty etc. Everything in casino has purpose in my opinion. I feel like school teachers should focus on effects of casinos in classes to warn kids. When someone learn this at young age, consciousness will help a lot.

Many countries are still think gambling is taboo, so they want to stay away to talk about gambling matters, what they will say it the bad side of gambling e.g. addiction, lose money, ruin your life etc. As we know kids sometime will not listen everything and they're have a high curiosity to try anything they want. This make them fall to gambling and become a gambling addict. Teachers need to explain about both advantage and disadvantage, also don't force them to not touch gambling. Let them to choose and monitor them if they want to try.

So do these kids blame other people when they lose in their gambling activity? I guess others do especially when someone had encouraged or suggested them to bet on something and losses. Anyway, I also agree that the teacher must educate kids about the negative effect of gambling. There should be no room for encouragement or lapses that these kids will take the path of trying gambling for themselves. Don't let these kids choose for themselves in terms of gambling activity. They must be forbidden reason why casinos only allowed 18 plus of age and not younger kids or teens.

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Quote from: yazher on May 15, 2023, 09:50:32 AM

Gamblers don't need to blame anybody but themselves because it's not a random thing that you find yourself at the gambling place except that you get there wanting to win more money than you currently have. We know that often will not be the case because most of the people going there are just donating their money for some entertainment if more people win the place will be closed sooner or later but the reality is the contrary and if the man can't handle the heat in the kitchen, he better get out. But most of them choose to stay and will not gonna leave until they no longer have anything in them which will gonna turn into a disaster later. If they cannot get out of it, it will turn into an addiction and eventually lead to more serious matters such as the OP's post.

It should be so but some blame others instead of themselves. They think that they are gambling because they asked them to. And when they lose playing gambling, they don't stop but keep playing gambling and in the end, they still lose. And slowly, without realizing it, they become addicted to gambling without anyone knowing it, even they don't know about it. It will be difficult for people like that to win gambling games because when they win, they don't stop but keep playing gambling until they finally lose.

Even someone encourages you to play. It's still your decision to make, not getting that point of blaming someone for your mistake and trying
to hide that addictions inside you and divert the attention to other people.

The point here is the money you use when you still have it. All the control is in your hands even someone asks you to play gambling you can easily say no if you wanted to as it is your hard-earned money.

But most of those who love pointing things to other people are the one who can't accept that they are already addicted or possibly to get addicted.

Indeed, all control is in our hands but when the urge to gamble gets stronger, we can be powerless to say no to our friends. At first, we decide to only gamble with a little money but after a while, we don't realize that we have used a lot of money. And that condition will be exacerbated by the defeats we experience, which will make us even more eager to recover from those losses and say this is the last time I gamble. But that doesn't really make us stop gambling because we can come back to the casino another time and gamble again. We will not blame our friends for inviting us to gamble at that time because we have gambled alone and not with our friends.

A gambler can get invited by his friends and then he can learn how to play and at one point he ignores the rules and can be addicted there and may blaming that friend that is not acceptable because the gambler just invited by this friend but everything have done by himself. Moreover, even if the gambler was lost by his friend's advice, that friend should not be blamed. Because in gambling loss or defeat are the common factor. Those who are just blaming by the defeat they have no proper idea about gambling.

Well if you understand human beings to a certain level then you will know that its actually normal for them to constantly put blames on something or someone else as the cause of their problems which is almost the same case with some gamblers who tend to blame others for their defeat like this case of a friend inviting you and giving you opinion on what to gamble on and you took the suggestion and in so lost everything, its still not that persons fault because an opinion can still be ignored but you yourself choose to yield to it and it went bad for you why then should you complain and blame anyone.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 17, 2023, 04:49:04 AM

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Quote from: yazher on May 15, 2023, 09:50:32 AM

Gamblers don't need to blame anybody but themselves because it's not a random thing that you find yourself at the gambling place except that you get there wanting to win more money than you currently have. We know that often will not be the case because most of the people going there are just donating their money for some entertainment if more people win the place will be closed sooner or later but the reality is the contrary and if the man can't handle the heat in the kitchen, he better get out. But most of them choose to stay and will not gonna leave until they no longer have anything in them which will gonna turn into a disaster later. If they cannot get out of it, it will turn into an addiction and eventually lead to more serious matters such as the OP's post.

It should be so but some blame others instead of themselves. They think that they are gambling because they asked them to. And when they lose playing gambling, they don't stop but keep playing gambling and in the end, they still lose. And slowly, without realizing it, they become addicted to gambling without anyone knowing it, even they don't know about it. It will be difficult for people like that to win gambling games because when they win, they don't stop but keep playing gambling until they finally lose.

Even someone encourages you to play. It's still your decision to make, not getting that point of blaming someone for your mistake and trying
to hide that addictions inside you and divert the attention to other people.

The point here is the money you use when you still have it. All the control is in your hands even someone asks you to play gambling you can easily say no if you wanted to as it is your hard-earned money.

But most of those who love pointing things to other people are the one who can't accept that they are already addicted or possibly to get addicted.

Indeed, all control is in our hands but when the urge to gamble gets stronger, we can be powerless to say no to our friends. At first, we decide to only gamble with a little money but after a while, we don't realize that we have used a lot of money. And that condition will be exacerbated by the defeats we experience, which will make us even more eager to recover from those losses and say this is the last time I gamble. But that doesn't really make us stop gambling because we can come back to the casino another time and gamble again. We will not blame our friends for inviting us to gamble at that time because we have gambled alone and not with our friends.

A gambler can get invited by his friends and then he can learn how to play and at one point he ignores the rules and can be addicted there and may blaming that friend that is not acceptable because the gambler just invited by this friend but everything have done by himself. Moreover, even if the gambler was lost by his friend's advice, that friend should not be blamed. Because in gambling loss or defeat are the common factor. Those who are just blaming by the defeat they have no proper idea about gambling.

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Quote from: retreat on May 11, 2023, 06:23:12 AM

This is what happens when you allow yourself to be controlled by greed. They realize that what they are doing is wrong, but they still do it. They thought that by filing a false report they would get their money back, but the courts were much smarter than that. I really feel sorry for them, because with that much money they should be able to improve their quality of life or open a business which is much more profitable for them than gambling that money. Now they have not only lost their money, but also jailed and fined for it, poor thing.

I confess that I can sometimes become greedy but I don't extend it by doing another wrong thing. Like they said, one mistake is already enough and doing another mistake won't fixed it but it will only make it worse. It's easy for them to do it, maybe because these people already have a bad record before. Have you noticed that many criminals repeat their mistakes? Because it is also addicting for them.

You shouldn't feel sorry for what they did but feel sorry for the innocent people that they blame. Improving one's quality of life doesn't always require money and even if they have the capital to start a business, there is still no guarantees that they can be successful with it but it is better to risk it this way, than in gambling.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on May 17, 2023, 07:35:36 AM

I actually I agree with you even though I believe in self control. I observed gambling atmosphere. All those shining lights, flashing color, sound effects are not there for nothing. Those exist to convince you. Sometimes even girl laborers there can blow your mind with their beauty etc. Everything in casino has purpose in my opinion. I feel like school teachers should focus on effects of casinos in classes to warn kids. When someone learn this at young age, consciousness will help a lot.

Many countries are still think gambling is taboo, so they want to stay away to talk about gambling matters, what they will say it the bad side of gambling e.g. addiction, lose money, ruin your life etc. As we know kids sometime will not listen everything and they're have a high curiosity to try anything they want. This make them fall to gambling and become a gambling addict. Teachers need to explain about both advantage and disadvantage, also don't force them to not touch gambling. Let them to choose and monitor them if they want to try.

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Quote from: slapper on May 15, 2023, 03:43:43 PM

Quote from: yazher on May 15, 2023, 09:50:32 AM

Gamblers don't need to blame anybody but themselves because it's not a random thing that you find yourself at the gambling place except that you get there wanting to win more money than you currently have. We know that often will not be the case because most of the people going there are just donating their money for some entertainment if more people win the place will be closed sooner or later but the reality is the contrary and if the man can't handle the heat in the kitchen, he better get out. But most of them choose to stay and will not gonna leave until they no longer have anything in them which will gonna turn into a disaster later. If they cannot get out of it, it will turn into an addiction and eventually lead to more serious matters such as the OP's post.

I get it, gamblers should own their actions. But I think it's too cut-and-dry, overlooking the tricky terrain. Sure, folks willingly walk into a casino, dreaming of a jackpot. But let's face it, casinos play mind games. The promise of riches and the cunning setup can turn even the steeliest heads.

Dumping all blame on gamblers ignores the casino's shark-like nature. These places are built to lure and hook. It's not just about personal will; it's about crafty industry tactics exploiting weak spots. Instead of just burdening the gambler, let's push for a fairer gambling space. Steps like protecting the susceptible, teaching responsible gambling, and holding the industry to account can dial down gambling's potential harm.

I actually I agree with you even though I believe in self control. I observed gambling atmosphere. All those shining lights, flashing color, sound effects are not there for nothing. Those exist to convince you. Sometimes even girl laborers there can blow your mind with their beauty etc. Everything in casino has purpose in my opinion. I feel like school teachers should focus on effects of casinos in classes to warn kids. When someone learn this at young age, consciousness will help a lot.

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Quote from: yazher on May 15, 2023, 09:50:32 AM

Gamblers don't need to blame anybody but themselves because it's not a random thing that you find yourself at the gambling place except that you get there wanting to win more money than you currently have. We know that often will not be the case because most of the people going there are just donating their money for some entertainment if more people win the place will be closed sooner or later but the reality is the contrary and if the man can't handle the heat in the kitchen, he better get out. But most of them choose to stay and will not gonna leave until they no longer have anything in them which will gonna turn into a disaster later. If they cannot get out of it, it will turn into an addiction and eventually lead to more serious matters such as the OP's post.

It should be so but some blame others instead of themselves. They think that they are gambling because they asked them to. And when they lose playing gambling, they don't stop but keep playing gambling and in the end, they still lose. And slowly, without realizing it, they become addicted to gambling without anyone knowing it, even they don't know about it. It will be difficult for people like that to win gambling games because when they win, they don't stop but keep playing gambling until they finally lose.

Even someone encourages you to play. It's still your decision to make, not getting that point of blaming someone for your mistake and trying
to hide that addictions inside you and divert the attention to other people.

The point here is the money you use when you still have it. All the control is in your hands even someone asks you to play gambling you can easily say no if you wanted to as it is your hard-earned money.

But most of those who love pointing things to other people are the one who can't accept that they are already addicted or possibly to get addicted.

Indeed, all control is in our hands but when the urge to gamble gets stronger, we can be powerless to say no to our friends. At first, we decide to only gamble with a little money but after a while, we don't realize that we have used a lot of money. And that condition will be exacerbated by the defeats we experience, which will make us even more eager to recover from those losses and say this is the last time I gamble. But that doesn't really make us stop gambling because we can come back to the casino another time and gamble again. We will not blame our friends for inviting us to gamble at that time because we have gambled alone and not with our friends.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on May 16, 2023, 02:39:09 AM

It depends on the responsibility of the player, if he understands all the risks, he will allocate amount for the game day, which cannot be exceeded. And if for some period he only loses money and cannot win anything, or loses more than he wins, then this is a clear sign that gambling should be just entertainment for him. Of course, if risk management is not followed, then there will be problems.

When the gamblers had start a game,he is fully responsible for the profit or loss.He should agree this point before starting the gambling.The gambling was involved of real money and had some risk to lose the capital,So it’s essential to the gamblers do or die on gambling.It’s good for the gamblers to keep some target of using certain dollars in gambling on a particular day.Even if they loss on one day,he can still able to recover the money on upcoming day.The gamblers should use the ten percentage of the holding dollars to avoid losing the capital.The average of a month should end with the minimum of thirty percent profit from your investment.Then you have expect in that game.If you are not gained not loss means, the next stage of gambling will gives you profit.At this stage,you can use this gambling as entertainment.

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Quote from: yazher on May 15, 2023, 09:50:32 AM

Gamblers don't need to blame anybody but themselves because it's not a random thing that you find yourself at the gambling place except that you get there wanting to win more money than you currently have. We know that often will not be the case because most of the people going there are just donating their money for some entertainment if more people win the place will be closed sooner or later but the reality is the contrary and if the man can't handle the heat in the kitchen, he better get out. But most of them choose to stay and will not gonna leave until they no longer have anything in them which will gonna turn into a disaster later. If they cannot get out of it, it will turn into an addiction and eventually lead to more serious matters such as the OP's post.

A great deal of our problems are caused by our mentality and this is a clear case of this, we must assume that any money which we deposit at any casino is money that we have lost already, and if we take this posture then it is going to be almost impossible for us to fall into a state of desperation and begin to chase our losses, however if we think that somehow we can make money while we gamble then once we begin to inevitably lose then desperation will start to overtake us and that is when we could begin to do some crazy stuff which we may regret later.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on May 16, 2023, 02:39:09 AM

Quote from: yazher on May 15, 2023, 09:50:32 AM

If they cannot get out of it, it will turn into an addiction and eventually lead to more serious matters such as the OP's post.

It depends on the responsibility of the player, if he understands all the risks, he will allocate amount for the game day, which cannot be exceeded. And if for some period he only loses money and cannot win anything, or loses more than he wins, then this is a clear sign that gambling should be just entertainment for him. Of course, if risk management is not followed, then there will be problems.

I very much agree with that. I think this is why people should stick with sports gambling, time management is easy because you will just have to bet before the game then enjoy watching it cheering for your favorite team, and finally reap the rewards if you made the right bet for the winning team or player.
While when we are doing casino games, it tends to make us play longer trying to win back what we lost or being too greedy thinking we are having a lucky day upon hitting a winning streak. I mean, I know it because I play casino games before but today I stick with sports gambling or if not, poker will be my next option which is a game that takes a lot of time with less money on the line.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on May 16, 2023, 02:39:09 AM

Quote from: yazher on May 15, 2023, 09:50:32 AM

If they cannot get out of it, it will turn into an addiction and eventually lead to more serious matters such as the OP's post.

It depends on the responsibility of the player, if he understands all the risks, he will allocate amount for the game day, which cannot be exceeded. And if for some period he only loses money and cannot win anything, or loses more than he wins, then this is a clear sign that gambling should be just entertainment for him. Of course, if risk management is not followed, then there will be problems.

I still think that someone who has gambled using money means he is an adult and not childish to make statements as if there were other things that made him lose at gambling.

On the other hand, I quite agree with what you said in this matter, everyone who is in a scope like this must be aware that all actions have a responsibility, especially this is gambling, where everything has a high risk because the ratio of losses is clearly bigger than wins, so like it or not they have to make strong management, especially for their finances.
This is not a suitable place to seek profit and we are aware of that so don't make it difficult for yourself by not wanting to accept a reality that doesn't match your wishes.

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Quote from: coinerer on May 14, 2023, 10:55:31 AM

Quote from: molsewid on May 14, 2023, 10:42:07 AM

At first, people are being denial about those things, they keep on saying that it is not their fault when in fact they are the one who plays the game and loses it. We should be accountable at all times and in everything because blaming other people will not make us relieve to our loses. It will teach us to be disciplined and make us bets and assets organized to avoid loses and blaming it to other.

Everyone thinks carefully before gambling and then decides whether to gamble and those who gamble must know that there are high stakes involved and if they lose by gambling there is no one to blame. for when one gains by gambling, he alone enjoys the entire dividend, so likewise when he loses, he must take responsibility for it himself. no one can be blamed in this case.

And who would make people with such mindsets and natures understand this? They don't care about others, all they care about themselves and what they own and that is the reason why they don't blame themselves and accept their losses because they think that they can't lose but they have been made lose which is basically a quality of a loser.

Such people would never let anyone know that they have had won something and they will always stay away from the happiness that increases when shared with others because happiness doesn't get less when shared, sorrows do.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on May 16, 2023, 02:39:09 AM

Quote from: yazher on May 15, 2023, 09:50:32 AM

If they cannot get out of it, it will turn into an addiction and eventually lead to more serious matters such as the OP's post.

It depends on the responsibility of the player, if he understands all the risks, he will allocate amount for the game day, which cannot be exceeded. And if for some period he only loses money and cannot win anything, or loses more than he wins, then this is a clear sign that gambling should be just entertainment for him. Of course, if risk management is not followed, then there will be problems.

It's a perfect reason why discipline should be learned by everybody especially when it comes to gambling where a lot of people already have become addicted in chasing their losses, and knowing the risks that are involved will not be enough to keep them in some safe distance because without discipline, it is almost inevitable that a gambler will have a few bad days including nights if in turn that their activities will not prosper and produce profits.

We may not observed that it is already eating us slowly because of the thrill and fun but once it fully hits you, it will be too hard for us to get out from the situation. Hence why we should only treat gambling as an entertainment to keep ourselves from being a slave in our own lives.

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Quote from: alastantiger on April 28, 2023, 07:39:00 AM

How can two persons be so addicted to gambling that they'll go to such an extent? Apparently the mother is definitely not a good role model to the son. The son definitely needs a strong father figure which is what he lacks. I don't like the punishment or fine give to them. It is not going to be in anyway effective. Their punishment could have been rehabilitation and community service.

I think dragging their father in here's wrong, we never can tell the role he has played in ensuring that the desist from such lifestyle to no avail.

Obviously, the mother is the boy's role model yes, and she's a very bad influence. But, come to think of it, what if the son influenced his mom??

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Quote from: yazher on May 15, 2023, 09:50:32 AM

If they cannot get out of it, it will turn into an addiction and eventually lead to more serious matters such as the OP's post.

It depends on the responsibility of the player, if he understands all the risks, he will allocate amount for the game day, which cannot be exceeded. And if for some period he only loses money and cannot win anything, or loses more than he wins, then this is a clear sign that gambling should be just entertainment for him. Of course, if risk management is not followed, then there will be problems.

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