Do you read the TOS of a gambling site? Honest answer please.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on November 20, 2020, 10:00:32 AM

The TOS of gambling sites is very necessary to be read and well understood by the bettor that want to make use of the site, the reason is still for the sake of the bettor not to do what we not later favor him, there are many gambling sites if not all that have similar rules but not fully the same, that is why we still need to read the TOS in all the gamblimg site we do visit in order to avoid mistakes.

Exactly. Some user you may see have been blocked by bookies, confiscate their fund etc. The reason is that they don't read the TOS and they've made a mistake so I don't think it's bookies fault for not reading the TOS

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Quote from: Questat on November 20, 2020, 03:44:22 AM

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on November 18, 2020, 11:50:55 AM

Good advise, sometimes because of my daily schedules i don't care about the gambling TOS as much but something bad happened when i get into a new casino without read their TOS early this new, this action of mine put my winnings out without any remedy. Except those gambling platforms we already been playing; should be seen as TOS not useful for read but not new casinos in this case.

Then what happened to your money there? Are you able to withdraw it despite the problem that has occurred because you haven't read their TOS?
There are remedies for that as long as you agree to the term and requirement that they will give to you. No problem for the best casinos, although there will be times that they can be strict with you depending on what they can see in your account.

It's not a legit site, even if you are not reading the TOS, a legit site would not withheld your winning, they can close your account but they will have to release your funds as that is yours, unless you are caught cheating that resulted to an easy win.

Likely that it is. He said that there's no solution given by the casino to get his funds. I'd like to know what casino is that so others can also avoid playing there.
Knowing that there are casinos like this makes other players to have bad feeling for online casinos that uses crypto. And that feeling is being pointed to the use of cryptocurrency that discourages them.

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The TOS of gambling sites is very necessary to be read and well understood by the bettor that want to make use of the site, the reason is still for the sake of the bettor not to do what we not later favor him, there are many gambling sites if not all that have similar rules but not fully the same, that is why we still need to read the TOS in all the gamblimg site we do visit in order to avoid mistakes.

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Quote from: Questat on November 20, 2020, 03:44:22 AM

It's not a legit site, even if you are not reading the TOS, a legit site would not withheld your winning, they can close your account but they will have to release your funds as that is yours, unless you are caught cheating that resulted to an easy win.

Even if you are going to play in a legit trusted site, reading the ToS is recommended.
Not all legit sites has the same ToS, as you may get different result for similar/same problem.
At least read the ToS before you are going to make your first deposit, if everything is OK for you then you can go for it.
Otherwise, if there is something that you feel is not really good for you then dont deposit.

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Quote from: Natalim on October 16, 2020, 06:06:44 AM

I want to make a survey from gamblers in the forum if they are really reading the TOS of the gambling sites they are playing with.

Therefore, I request you to vote and give an explanation on why you voted yes or no?

To tell you frankly Sir, I don't know this TOS. But when I tried to researched it at the google still I don't understand
just all what I can see is about the terms and condition, correct me if I am wrong, because for me I came up into gambling sites
into cryptocurrency just simply signup then play, just simple as that as long as I see there a chance for me to get a good profit in it.

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Quote from: Rodeo02 on November 20, 2020, 05:52:33 AM

Quote from: dunfida on November 18, 2020, 12:51:30 PM

True!

Most of the times people do just simply ignore this even if it do pops out when you do surf out into the site.How much more if you do still need to click it out which
it turns out to be hassle into their part on doing such thing even to myself i cant deny that there are times that i dont really need to read it up
but in most cases where gamblers should read it up to avoid future problems.If you do experience problems that you are going against with the tos
then you would just simply scratch your head.

Maybe because most of the gambling websites have the same TOS or it's annoying to read everything because it's too long to read.
I will not deny that i do the same thing lol, for simple reason I guess because it's not to strict here to play in online gambling And I do not see that I will have any serious problem .

Same here, I am not thinking that not reading the TOS would bring me a serious problem, first they say gamble anonymously, so I think registration is not really a problem even without KYC, most sites have a standard rule so it's okay not a read it, as long as you don't cheat you'll be alright. Sometimes if we are gambling with big money, that's the time that we should be aware of every statement written in the TOS because if we have some problem that is against the TOS, our money could be frozen and everything that we work for will be gone.

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Quote from: dunfida on November 18, 2020, 12:51:30 PM

True!

Most of the times people do just simply ignore this even if it do pops out when you do surf out into the site.How much more if you do still need to click it out which
it turns out to be hassle into their part on doing such thing even to myself i cant deny that there are times that i dont really need to read it up
but in most cases where gamblers should read it up to avoid future problems.If you do experience problems that you are going against with the tos
then you would just simply scratch your head.

Maybe because most of the gambling websites have the same TOS or it's annoying to read everything because it's too long to read.
I will not deny that i do the same thing lol, for simple reason I guess because it's not to strict here to play in online gambling And I do not see that I will have any serious problem .

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Quote from: passwordnow on November 18, 2020, 10:42:12 PM

Quote from: Sebas.tian on November 18, 2020, 11:50:55 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on November 17, 2020, 06:12:28 PM

For the common casinos we play, we don't seem to care at it at all because we're confident playing with them and their terms are also common as the others.
But for the newer casinos that we're about to play, it's important to look at their terms first before depositing. Agree with @Mahanton, that's awareness but others are neglecting it.

Good advise, sometimes because of my daily schedules i don't care about the gambling TOS as much but something bad happened when i get into a new casino without read their TOS early this new, this action of mine put my winnings out without any remedy. Except those gambling platforms we already been playing; should be seen as TOS not useful for read but not new casinos in this case.

Then what happened to your money there? Are you able to withdraw it despite the problem that has occurred because you haven't read their TOS?
There are remedies for that as long as you agree to the term and requirement that they will give to you. No problem for the best casinos, although there will be times that they can be strict with you depending on what they can see in your account.

It's not a legit site, even if you are not reading the TOS, a legit site would not withheld your winning, they can close your account but they will have to release your funds as that is yours, unless you are caught cheating that resulted to an easy win.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on November 18, 2020, 11:50:55 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on November 17, 2020, 06:12:28 PM

For the common casinos we play, we don't seem to care at it at all because we're confident playing with them and their terms are also common as the others.
But for the newer casinos that we're about to play, it's important to look at their terms first before depositing. Agree with @Mahanton, that's awareness but others are neglecting it.

Good advise, sometimes because of my daily schedules i don't care about the gambling TOS as much but something bad happened when i get into a new casino without read their TOS early this new, this action of mine put my winnings out without any remedy. Except those gambling platforms we already been playing; should be seen as TOS not useful for read but not new casinos in this case.

Then what happened to your money there? Are you able to withdraw it despite the problem that has occurred because you haven't read their TOS?
There are remedies for that as long as you agree to the term and requirement that they will give to you. No problem for the best casinos, although there will be times that they can be strict with you depending on what they can see in your account.

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Quote from: ecnalubma on November 18, 2020, 12:17:12 PM

Most people don’t really care about terms and services, they might only read the terms when they encounter serious problems with their money stuck in online casinos. It will be very rare to read specially that users only care about their experience and winnings.

True!

Most of the times people do just simply ignore this even if it do pops out when you do surf out into the site.How much more if you do still need to click it out which
it turns out to be hassle into their part on doing such thing even to myself i cant deny that there are times that i dont really need to read it up
but in most cases where gamblers should read it up to avoid future problems.If you do experience problems that you are going against with the tos
then you would just simply scratch your head.

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Quote from: ecnalubma on November 18, 2020, 12:17:12 PM

Most people don’t really care about terms and services, they might only read the terms when they encounter serious problems with their money stuck in online casinos. It will be very rare to read specially that users only care about their experience and winnings.

they thought that they are experienced gamblers and they think all sites are the same but that thoughts can be false most of the time .

They only care about wins by they don't know that those wins can be useless if the money are going to be confiscated because of a small minor mistake ,that won't supposed to happen if they only take time to read the tos right at the start .

The sickness of the people is to regret at the end but that cant be too late if the site that they are playing is a good person because they can give them another chance .

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Most people don’t really care about terms and services, they might only read the terms when they encounter serious problems with their money stuck in online casinos. It will be very rare to read specially that users only care about their experience and winnings.

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Even if the Gambling website has earned already a reputation I really think it's still important to know their terms and conditions so you would know how you would act on their website and you know the do's and don'ts.

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Quote from: passwordnow on November 17, 2020, 06:12:28 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on November 17, 2020, 06:04:33 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on November 17, 2020, 05:33:48 PM

Its better to be aware than to be blind
and end up regretting when they had already confiscate your funds.

There are times that there questionable action of the platform that leads to accounts frozen or funds on hold.
In that matter, it's good if we can consider archiving the terms as they can't just say they are allowed to modify it anytime. Should only be applied at those sites wherein we decided to play.
Not necessary for a site that we are now used to play on.

For the common casinos we play, we don't seem to care at it at all because we're confident playing with them and their terms are also common as the others.
But for the newer casinos that we're about to play, it's important to look at their terms first before depositing. Agree with @Mahanton, that's awareness but others are neglecting it.

Good advise, sometimes because of my daily schedules i don't care about the gambling TOS as much but something bad happened when i get into a new casino without read their TOS early this new, this action of mine put my winnings out without any remedy. Except those gambling platforms we already been playing; should be seen as TOS not useful for read but not new casinos in this case.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on November 17, 2020, 06:16:07 PM

Some new casinos have new rules when it comes to kyc and withdrawals (especially in wagering requirements). But yes, for old casinos that we used to visit, we already know their terms per se. Because more than likely, you already did several withdrawals without a problem, so you know, you will not encounter any issue the next time. But if you will spend significant amount, still worth reading the ToS of the site before regretting in the end.

They can be alerted if you ever do withdrawals or deposits that are huge which you don't usually do. But if they are firm with their rules that they wouldn't ask for KYC as long as you're not hitting the limit, they are honest and true to their TOS.
If there's a statement that they can change their rules anytime without further notice, you know what to do then if they want you to complete kyc.

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Quote from: goinmerry on November 17, 2020, 06:04:33 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on November 17, 2020, 05:33:48 PM

Its better to be aware than to be blind
and end up regretting when they had already confiscate your funds.

There are times that there questionable action of the platform that leads to accounts frozen or funds on hold.

And due to not reading the TOS before playing si in the Mid of gaming they commit breaking the TOS even without having idea of what it is.

Quote from: goinmerry on November 17, 2020, 06:04:33 PM

In that matter, it's good if we can consider archiving the terms as they can't just say they are allowed to modify it anytime. Should only be applied at those sites wherein we decided to play.

Exactly the best way dealing with gambling sites,Even if you are lazy to read their TOS but at least try to Have a copy so in any case you know where you standing.

Quote from: goinmerry on November 17, 2020, 06:04:33 PM

Not necessary for a site that we are now used to play on.

Well but at least Visit the TOS even once in a blue moon as they may have change some for upgrade or related.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on November 17, 2020, 06:25:26 PM

Quote from: Twinkledoe on November 17, 2020, 06:16:07 PM

Some new casinos have new rules when it comes to kyc and withdrawals (especially in wagering requirements). But yes, for old casinos that we used to visit, we already know their terms per se. Because more than likely, you already did several withdrawals without a problem, so you know, you will not encounter any issue the next time. But if you will spend significant amount, still worth reading the ToS of the site before regretting in the end.

I think gambling places don't have to do KYC, there are some gambling places that keep their players anonymous so the owners of the gambling places don't know who it is, and it's better that way because they maintain their privacy, while for other ToS I think almost all gambling places are the same , to be honest I sometimes don't read it first, I prefer to have fun at the gambling place without paying attention to the existing ToS.

If the gambling places don't do KYC, I am sure many crypto gamblers will visit their site, and they will be regular members who are always playing gambling on those places. For the crypto gamblers, a gambling website that is not applied KYC will be meaningful because they protect their identity and prefer to become anonymous.

We may not read the ToS for the gambling website that we are regularly visiting because we know that they use KYC or not. We don't have any problem to deposit or withdraw the money, whether that is winning money or deposit money.

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Quote from: peter0425 on November 08, 2020, 11:19:19 PM

I don't know what is big deal for people reading Both TOS and FAQ?it wont take an hour to check and understand them both and besides those for our own safeties in dealing with that specific company.

Most people on the Internet does not have a good attention span and TOS and FAQ's are designed in a way that it is difficult to last in reading it.

Quote from: peter0425 on November 08, 2020, 11:19:19 PM

So what if you broke their TOS when playing since you have not read those? and you will only read when you need to withdraw and they will not allow you.

Again not their fault because people are different and to be honest it is a waste of time if you try to make a meaning out of all the T's and C's in the TOS. If the site is a good one then you do not have a problem with them to the point that you need to read the TOS.

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Quote from: Mahanton on November 17, 2020, 05:33:48 PM

Quote from: FontSeli on November 17, 2020, 04:45:40 PM

I voted YES.
I always read the terms of use on exchanges and gambling sites, as well as other platforms where I make or receive money. I began to do this after one exchange blocked my funds for a month and asked to provide documents about their origin. I lost a lot of time and nerve to get that money back. In the rules of the exchange it was written that they are entitled to it, so the law was on their side. After this case, I started reading the terms of use wherever I register my account.

People wont really make any changes if they haven't experienced unfortunate events but there are still people who do continue to have this kind of
behavior on where not reading up ToS neither on a gambling site/exchange or other platforms that have their own set of rules and terms.
Its always better to read it up so that you would really be fully aware and would able to avoid problems later on.Its better to be aware than to be blind
and end up regretting when they had already confiscate your funds.

Our forum exists so that all of us could tell our story, and other people could read it and learn from others' experiences. I hope my story will help other people understand that they must read the ToS of any site where they register and contribute their money. I managed to get my money back and I remembered this lesson forever.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on November 17, 2020, 06:16:07 PM

Some new casinos have new rules when it comes to kyc and withdrawals (especially in wagering requirements). But yes, for old casinos that we used to visit, we already know their terms per se. Because more than likely, you already did several withdrawals without a problem, so you know, you will not encounter any issue the next time. But if you will spend significant amount, still worth reading the ToS of the site before regretting in the end.

I think gambling places don't have to do KYC, there are some gambling places that keep their players anonymous so the owners of the gambling places don't know who it is, and it's better that way because they maintain their privacy, while for other ToS I think almost all gambling places are the same , to be honest I sometimes don't read it first, I prefer to have fun at the gambling place without paying attention to the existing ToS.

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