Do you read the TOS of a gambling site? Honest answer please. - page 4.

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Quote from: Finestream on November 05, 2020, 05:49:34 AM

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Quote from: abel1337 on November 04, 2020, 05:20:24 PM

To be honest, I am not reading any TOS or disclaimer in any site that I am accessing, I will only check its security, I need to be sure that it is having a good security feature and it will not run after some months or years. I will also check if KYC is needed in this site, I don't want to send a KYC, it could be hassle for me, most importantly I will look for some review of other player, research before playing that is the good thing to do.

Well, if it's boring to read the TOS, there are shortcuts that others likely doing it too. Searching for keywords like KYC for that one worry that we have.
KYC is an inconvenience when we're gambling and it is the reason why some gamblers caught by surprise that they have to do it because they haven't seen or read the TOS.

KYC is always present in a site I guess, however, not all the time they'll require you a KYC. Maybe they are following some rules like Binance have , because in Binance you can trade as long as you don't exceed their limit, but just in a separate scenario because trading is mostly not illegal while gambling is illegal in some countries.

Even me I don't want the gambling sites requiring KYC for their players because people maybe the reasons why they are choosing this because they want to become anonymous. Reading TOS is better because maybe you can see that their other terms that you did not want so you can avoid registering or playing because in the end you are get problems if you do against to their terms that you accept without reading.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on November 05, 2020, 05:33:27 AM

Quote from: abel1337 on November 04, 2020, 05:20:24 PM

To be honest, I am not reading any TOS or disclaimer in any site that I am accessing, I will only check its security, I need to be sure that it is having a good security feature and it will not run after some months or years. I will also check if KYC is needed in this site, I don't want to send a KYC, it could be hassle for me, most importantly I will look for some review of other player, research before playing that is the good thing to do.

Well, if it's boring to read the TOS, there are shortcuts that others likely doing it too. Searching for keywords like KYC for that one worry that we have.
KYC is an inconvenience when we're gambling and it is the reason why some gamblers caught by surprise that they have to do it because they haven't seen or read the TOS.

KYC is always present in a site I guess, however, not all the time they'll require you a KYC. Maybe they are following some rules like Binance have , because in Binance you can trade as long as you don't exceed their limit, but just in a separate scenario because trading is mostly not illegal while gambling is illegal in some countries.

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Quote from: abel1337 on November 04, 2020, 05:20:24 PM

To be honest, I am not reading any TOS or disclaimer in any site that I am accessing, I will only check its security, I need to be sure that it is having a good security feature and it will not run after some months or years. I will also check if KYC is needed in this site, I don't want to send a KYC, it could be hassle for me, most importantly I will look for some review of other player, research before playing that is the good thing to do.

Well, if it's boring to read the TOS, there are shortcuts that others likely doing it too. Searching for keywords like KYC for that one worry that we have.
KYC is an inconvenience when we're gambling and it is the reason why some gamblers caught by surprise that they have to do it because they haven't seen or read the TOS.

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Quote from: Xxmodded on November 04, 2020, 12:58:47 PM

For Term of Service ( TOS ) in gambling site only check need KYC or not when betting soccer or casino, I dislike have betting site need for KYC when withdraw or deposit because I will never give my document for gambling site.

We are in the same field. What I prioritize in reading TOS is about KYC and supported countries.

KYC is now common on new gambling sites but that will just be required for certain big winnings.

For supported and prohibited countries, users should be aware of this to avoid future problems. But sometimes, the site itself is the problem since in the first place, they shouldn't allow registration of users from prohibited countries. Then if those users use a VPN, have them penalized.

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To be honest, I am not reading any TOS or disclaimer in any site that I am accessing, I will only check its security, I need to be sure that it is having a good security feature and it will not run after some months or years. I will also check if KYC is needed in this site, I don't want to send a KYC, it could be hassle for me, most importantly I will look for some review of other player, research before playing that is the good thing to do.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 04, 2020, 07:54:19 AM

Quote from: Lanatsa on November 03, 2020, 02:59:09 PM

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on November 03, 2020, 09:51:01 AM

I am one of those people who always obey the rules either in the real world or in the online world. Therefore, I always take the time
to read the TOS before deciding to join gambling sites. So that I can know all the rules for gambling sites, and prevent violations.
But most people may be too lazy to read the TOS of a gambling site, even though the TOS on a gambling site is very important to read.

TOS of any gambling site should be read. Anybody who wishes to use the gambling site should have first read and understood the TOS. But this is going to be a tedious task. TOS are most probably skipped by many users because they don't care about it and because reading a very long TOS is not a fun thing to do.

It's good that somebody like you is treating TOS-reading as a must thing before using a gambling site.

The feeling of getting bored on reading up long text then im surely do have the same feeling with that which people would most likely ignore these FAQ's and would just proceed without
knowing that they can be possibly blocked or what.

If they do saw that there are lots of people playing then they do already presume out that it is safe to play into the platform.Well, I cant really blame them since I do have the same
mindset and perception anytime I do seek for a gambling site to play.

Overall, reading up everything will really be not a bad habit to be done yet you would know everything and you might able to avoid problems in the future.

The best thing to do of course is to carefully go over the TOS of gambling sites where you are playing. If possible, you should also go over their FAQs. Not only that, you should also get to know whether they are legally operating or not, where they're based, etc. To make sure you cannot go wrong with the site, you should also read their user reviews as well as site overall review by trusted gambling rating and review sites. And then you would also try to test their fairness provability.

All this is what we call proper due diligence which I'm sure only a few gamblers would do.

Majority wont really be having that kind of time to be spent on verifying everything and just tend to wait up for someone to do the job and make out some verification.

In most cases where new sites aren't really necessary to be legal or regulated yet everything would just pop out from somewhere and later on they do make focus on licensing etc.

Its just common sense for us to verify everything so that we would really make ourselves avoid on possible loss of funds due to scams or unfairness of the site.

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For Term of Service ( TOS ) in gambling site only check need KYC or not when betting soccer or casino, I dislike have betting site need for KYC when withdraw or deposit because I will never give my document for gambling site. Other rule like payment fee for withdraw is not my destination because many gambling site have lower fees for withdrawing transaction. Just ask at the forum about how long withdraw and deposit process in some gambling site, which one have faster for transaction and I will join with this site gambling, other require I check with how many game support playing in gambling site because I like with gambling site have multi playing kinds.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on November 03, 2020, 02:59:09 PM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 03, 2020, 10:45:36 AM

Quote from: BuNga_cute on November 03, 2020, 09:51:01 AM

I am one of those people who always obey the rules either in the real world or in the online world. Therefore, I always take the time
to read the TOS before deciding to join gambling sites. So that I can know all the rules for gambling sites, and prevent violations.
But most people may be too lazy to read the TOS of a gambling site, even though the TOS on a gambling site is very important to read.

TOS of any gambling site should be read. Anybody who wishes to use the gambling site should have first read and understood the TOS. But this is going to be a tedious task. TOS are most probably skipped by many users because they don't care about it and because reading a very long TOS is not a fun thing to do.

It's good that somebody like you is treating TOS-reading as a must thing before using a gambling site.

The feeling of getting bored on reading up long text then im surely do have the same feeling with that which people would most likely ignore these FAQ's and would just proceed without
knowing that they can be possibly blocked or what.

If they do saw that there are lots of people playing then they do already presume out that it is safe to play into the platform.Well, I cant really blame them since I do have the same
mindset and perception anytime I do seek for a gambling site to play.

Overall, reading up everything will really be not a bad habit to be done yet you would know everything and you might able to avoid problems in the future.

The best thing to do of course is to carefully go over the TOS of gambling sites where you are playing. If possible, you should also go over their FAQs. Not only that, you should also get to know whether they are legally operating or not, where they're based, etc. To make sure you cannot go wrong with the site, you should also read their user reviews as well as site overall review by trusted gambling rating and review sites. And then you would also try to test their fairness provability.

All this is what we call proper due diligence which I'm sure only a few gamblers would do.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on November 03, 2020, 03:33:48 PM

Again, the terms in the TOS are often harmful and so, it gets easier to just skip to the point of using the service you tend to subscribe for. No time to bit around.

Yeah, that makes you think of not signing up in site if you care to read enough the TOS.

If you don't agree, you don't play, so it's not fit to us since we are gamblers and we love to play, that's the reason most of us skip the TOS.

Besides, not everyone or majority of the gamblers faces problems when they are gambling, we can only see few who are complaining actually and most of them involves big amount in gambling which most of us not doing since we are just an average gambler.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on November 03, 2020, 02:59:09 PM

The feeling of getting bored on reading up long text then im surely do have the same feeling with that which people would most likely ignore these FAQ's and would just proceed without
knowing that they can be possibly blocked or what.

I swear, so boring to read and the worst part of it all is that, so long as it's a needed services, your sure to proceed so, why read at all? But then, it's one important document that one should have paid attention to, just like the disclaimer as it serves both informative purpose for users and also a backup for the company incase a services goes side ways and lives the complainant handicapped.
Again, the terms in the TOS are often harmful and so, it gets easier to just skip to the point of using the service you tend to subscribe for. No time to bit around.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 03, 2020, 10:45:36 AM

Quote from: BuNga_cute on November 03, 2020, 09:51:01 AM

I am one of those people who always obey the rules either in the real world or in the online world. Therefore, I always take the time
to read the TOS before deciding to join gambling sites. So that I can know all the rules for gambling sites, and prevent violations.
But most people may be too lazy to read the TOS of a gambling site, even though the TOS on a gambling site is very important to read.

TOS of any gambling site should be read. Anybody who wishes to use the gambling site should have first read and understood the TOS. But this is going to be a tedious task. TOS are most probably skipped by many users because they don't care about it and because reading a very long TOS is not a fun thing to do.

It's good that somebody like you is treating TOS-reading as a must thing before using a gambling site.

The feeling of getting bored on reading up long text then im surely do have the same feeling with that which people would most likely ignore these FAQ's and would just proceed without
knowing that they can be possibly blocked or what.

If they do saw that there are lots of people playing then they do already presume out that it is safe to play into the platform.Well, I cant really blame them since I do have the same
mindset and perception anytime I do seek for a gambling site to play.

Overall, reading up everything will really be not a bad habit to be done yet you would know everything and you might able to avoid problems in the future.

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Quote from: Globb0 on October 30, 2020, 06:02:14 PM

I thought of one exception to my never read the tos answer.

There has been a time and it might make the ops point.

I won £400 in thee free spins, ad I couldnt seem to withdraw it however much I bet of it.

There were some silly terms like you have to bet it 50x or something silly.

Pfffffft

It is common for casinos to require such things. That is why they are often given away for free, because you cannot have them paid out just like that. I think 50 is on the high side.
They could also just do 25. Much more attractive and fairer. Players should be given a great opportunity to cash in on their bonus.

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on November 03, 2020, 09:51:01 AM

I am one of those people who always obey the rules either in the real world or in the online world. Therefore, I always take the time
to read the TOS before deciding to join gambling sites. So that I can know all the rules for gambling sites, and prevent violations.
But most people may be too lazy to read the TOS of a gambling site, even though the TOS on a gambling site is very important to read.

TOS of any gambling site should be read. Anybody who wishes to use the gambling site should have first read and understood the TOS. But this is going to be a tedious task. TOS are most probably skipped by many users because they don't care about it and because reading a very long TOS is not a fun thing to do.

It's good that somebody like you is treating TOS-reading as a must thing before using a gambling site.

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I am one of those people who always obey the rules either in the real world or in the online world. Therefore, I always take the time
to read the TOS before deciding to join gambling sites. So that I can know all the rules for gambling sites, and prevent violations.
But most people may be too lazy to read the TOS of a gambling site, even though the TOS on a gambling site is very important to read.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on October 16, 2020, 09:41:15 AM

I think it's important to read terms of service since this is the gambling site's condition on what might happen to you and your account while using the website

Also it is the agreement between you and the gambling site so it is really necessary to read those before using the gambling site

Depending on the game I wanted to play. LOL, Usually I read the TOS especially if I had the feeling that I will going to stay and use the platform for a long use. But to those gambling site that will not catch my attention then I will go directly to what part of the platform that could interest me and then leave. Yet, there are many gambling platforms are actually good especially with the interface and the feature gamea with casino and sports betting. All in one actually and I had one kept on visiting everytime I wanted to play or bet in casino or sports/esports event.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on November 03, 2020, 07:43:13 AM

Never care with TOS or Term of Service some website gambling and checking how many game support in gambling site, I am looking which one interested game for playing and get much profit. What for of TOS or Term of Service if we lost always and not get win any time.

but what if yeah you Won Bigtime but you Violated their TOS?do you think this will give you benefits as well?
if you are banned or Froze because of this violations?remember that Rules are applied in everything in this world,so before playing better read and learn it first.

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I will read TOS when get problem with my withdrawing or deposit, but when have gambling website take us for KYC I will left and never joining with gambling site any more. By the way almost of gambling site have the same TOS or Term of Service with high risk when playing and never give guarantee sfor you to win always.

So you will only read the Terms Of Service while having difficulties?what if you have nothing to claim because of being not aware of their TOS?

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Never care with TOS or Term of Service some website gambling and checking how many game support in gambling site, I am looking which one interested game for playing and get much profit. What for of TOS or Term of Service if we lost always and not get win any time. I will read TOS when get problem with my withdrawing or deposit, but when have gambling website take us for KYC I will left and never joining with gambling site any more. By the way almost of gambling site have the same TOS or Term of Service with high risk when playing and never give guarantee sfor you to win always.

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Quote from: rijaljun on November 03, 2020, 06:18:43 AM

It depends on the casino or gambling site if it is proven as a reputable gambling site I don't think I should read it well I'm a little bit lazy about that thing since I don't like reading too much for me they are mostly like the same in my opinion.

Some of the users are concerned of the terms which are under the TOS of the gambling sites such as area restriction, implication of KYC in withdrawals and more which makes sense. A gambling site could put something under the TOS with expectations of its players to not read the content, which can be used against them as a possibility. Reputable gambling sites I think are no exceptions because they may still make an exit scam perhaps, if they would like to. So in my opinion, it would be better to do so. Nothing will be lost if you will just read the TOS just to be assured of the things you are engaging yourself with.

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It depends on the casino or gambling site if it is proven as a reputable gambling site I don't think I should read it well I'm a little bit lazy about that thing since I don't like reading too much for me they are mostly like the same in my opinion.

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Quote from: toast on October 31, 2020, 01:01:41 PM

for online casinos that already earned reputation i don't really read the whole terms of service just to the section if they mandatory ask the players of kyc or not. i think that's the only important, an advantage for me if the gambling site has a valid license.

Sometimes, the gambling site with reputations will ask to do KYC for their members, especially for members who win much money or deposit too big money just for playing gambling. They don't want to see their members related to the illegal, so they need to make sure of that. Maybe we need to read their TOS to see if we can accept their rules before we get something that can break the rules.

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