Topic: Do you read the TOS of a gambling site? Honest answer please. - page 5. (Read 4096 times)
November 03, 2020, 05:55:35 AM
Yes, I always check the Terms of service of every gambling platform I'm playing with. I don't want to go under an agreement without knowing the terms. Before I didn't bother checking it and ended up the casino i'm playing before asking me to pass KYC in order to withdrew my winnings
November 03, 2020, 05:39:22 AM
There are many times when casinos themselves go against their own terms and conditions. Reasons can be their own profits. And that's why reading the terms and conditions are required. Even for popular casinos. I have seen some casinos say "we don't accept players from x countries" and then using vpn a player plays and registers. The casino detects when they win and stop letting them withdraw if they win big! But these are the shady ones mostly.
Many casinos even allow those users who are on the list of banned countries to register and play. Pmalek did a great experiment that brought out a lot of such casinos: Which casinos have IP blocks in place for restricted countries?It means to me that reading their terms of service is meaningless.
November 03, 2020, 02:29:53 AM
There are many times when casinos themselves go against their own terms and conditions. Reasons can be their own profits. And that's why reading the terms and conditions are required. Even for popular casinos. I have seen some casinos say "we don't accept players from x countries" and then using vpn a player plays and registers. The casino detects when they win and stop letting them withdraw if they win big! But these are the shady ones mostly.
Many casinos even allow those users who are on the list of banned countries to register and play. Pmalek did a great experiment that brought out a lot of such casinos: Which casinos have IP blocks in place for restricted countries?It means to me that reading their terms of service is meaningless.
November 01, 2020, 07:26:24 AM
for online casinos that already earned reputation i don't really read the whole terms of service just to the section if they mandatory ask the players of kyc or not. i think that's the only important, an advantage for me if the gambling site has a valid license.
And how do you act if passing the KYC is a prerequisite in order to use the site? I see some kind of contradiction in your desires - as far as I know, if there is a license, then the KYC is required. All licensing governments try to know as much as possible about the service and its users.
October 31, 2020, 04:19:42 PM
Honest answer No,
I only intend to read some parts but if the TOS is long then I would just skip it and agree.
But if they would request a KYC then it would depend on the site if I would read it or not.
I only intend to read some parts but if the TOS is long then I would just skip it and agree.
But if they would request a KYC then it would depend on the site if I would read it or not.
October 31, 2020, 01:01:41 PM
for online casinos that already earned reputation i don't really read the whole terms of service just to the section if they mandatory ask the players of kyc or not. i think that's the only important, an advantage for me if the gambling site has a valid license.
October 31, 2020, 12:43:57 PM
If we don't read the TOS, we would not know if there's a changes on it, like they added or omit on the original.
I agree with you that most of us does not read TOS, we just want to do things automatic so we are looking to gamble instead of reading TOS.
I'm sure if we can spend a little time reading the TOS we will gain more knowledge about the rule that apply to the site. But so far I very rarely spend much of my time reading TOS as long as the site doesn't restrict me from playing there nor does it ask for KYC and I think this is enough.I agree with you that most of us does not read TOS, we just want to do things automatic so we are looking to gamble instead of reading TOS.
We will probably have a hard time once we will be at this stage, let's just hope there will be no problem.
When we have agreed at the beginning, then we also have to be responsible if something happens in the future. And yes, hopefully no problem. October 31, 2020, 12:17:46 PM
Firstly, it is a lot of work to go through all the terms and conditions completely. You could filter by keywords.
It is important to be aware of the conditions, so that you are not faced with surprises. The problem is often that conditions can be quite complex and that the user is okay with it.
He then relies on the fairness and reputation of the casino. General terms and conditions can often be used against the customer.
It is important to be aware of the conditions, so that you are not faced with surprises. The problem is often that conditions can be quite complex and that the user is okay with it.
He then relies on the fairness and reputation of the casino. General terms and conditions can often be used against the customer.
There are many times when casinos themselves go against their own terms and conditions. Reasons can be their own profits. And that's why reading the terms and conditions are required. Even for popular casinos. I have seen some casinos say "we don't accept players from x countries" and then using vpn a player plays and registers. The casino detects when they win and stop letting them withdraw if they win big! But these are the shady ones mostly.
October 31, 2020, 12:12:03 PM
I don't have enough patience to read the terms of service completely and it applies to the gambling site as well but I am nit going to simply click the I agree button either, I will take a look at it and try to read few things and if it is okay then I will okay with it.
Haha, we are pretty similar, TOS are look and it's not easy to understand, better not read it and just rely on the feedback about the site, problem is solve and we can start gambling anytime, besides, a site with good reputation are likely to have a good TOS.
October 31, 2020, 11:46:14 AM
Companies can put what they want in the conditions. They are obliged to comply with the legislation, so not everything is binding by definition. I do agree that it is much more important what a casino's reputation is like.
Of course it starts with a legal license as step 1.
Of course it starts with a legal license as step 1.
October 31, 2020, 11:38:20 AM
Actually just ignoring it and play as long as I know that they are running smooth without delays in withdrawals also considering the feedbacks of its users I’m good. But honestly even the gambling site is highly reputable we shouldn’t let our money there set for long period.
October 31, 2020, 11:19:24 AM
I don't know what it is about TOS that most of us tends to ignore the details. Even when we know the importance of this TOS as it could be used in setting a trap or creating a loophole that would be offensive to customers and defensive to the platforms and yet, we really don't care to read, I don't care to read. It often becomes an andrenalin thing when it pops up, it becomes a matter of just accept and let it slide so you can access and do that which needs done.
Just yesterday I experienced a high charge upon running a transaction with my Electrum wallet and felt really sad but then, it's sure to be contained in their TOS if I were to make any trouble.
To some extent it feels cruel that TOS works in this format as, it's always a matter of you agreeing to the terms or not using the service! Tapped!
Just yesterday I experienced a high charge upon running a transaction with my Electrum wallet and felt really sad but then, it's sure to be contained in their TOS if I were to make any trouble.
To some extent it feels cruel that TOS works in this format as, it's always a matter of you agreeing to the terms or not using the service! Tapped!
October 31, 2020, 10:19:19 AM
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If we don't read the TOS, we would not know if there's a changes on it, like they added or omit on the original.
I agree with you that most of us does not read TOS, we just want to do things automatic so we are looking to gamble instead of reading TOS.
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If we don't read the TOS, we would not know if there's a changes on it, like they added or omit on the original.
I agree with you that most of us does not read TOS, we just want to do things automatic so we are looking to gamble instead of reading TOS.
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The irony is that most TOSs have a warning that they can be changed unilaterally without direct notification to the user (usually a link is provided to where the current TOSs are located and where changes will be made). That is, the user must check this link every day to keep up to date. On the one hand, it is easy, on the other hand, if you use 20 different services, then it becomes a little real.
October 31, 2020, 07:38:37 AM
To be honest, in most cases I don't. But I avoid new gambling sites without reputation or with any suspicious feature. It's not a good habbit and TOS should be always read to avoid any misunderstanding or unpleasant situation later.
If we don't read the TOS, we would not know if there's a changes on it, like they added or omit on the original.
I agree with you that most of us does not read TOS, we just want to do things automatic so we are looking to gamble instead of reading TOS.
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But it's like a contract when you sign up, and you agrees with it, so it's necessary to read most especially if you are a bettor who risk big amount of money.But just like with any other site I believe that most people don't read it but when some problems appear they can't say they were not aquatinted with TOS because they are on every site.
We will probably have a hard time once we will be at this stage, let's just hope there will be no problem.
October 31, 2020, 07:37:53 AM
I don't have enough patience to read the terms of service completely and it applies to the gambling site as well but I am nit going to simply click the I agree button either, I will take a look at it and try to read few things and if it is okay then I will okay with it.
Same here bruh. I don't gamble much but I try sometimes just for the sake of experience and whenever I feel like it. And when it comes to TOS, I don't have the patience to read it. It's so lengthy but I do skim through it and when I read something I consider important for me, that's when I read slowly. Upon reaching the end after skimming, then and only then I'll click the agree button. 
October 31, 2020, 07:25:00 AM
To be honest, in most cases I don't. But I avoid new gambling sites without reputation or with any suspicious feature. It's not a good habbit and TOS should be always read to avoid any misunderstanding or unpleasant situation later. But just like with any other site I believe that most people don't read it but when some problems appear they can't say they were not aquatinted with TOS because they are on every site.
October 31, 2020, 06:51:55 AM
I don't have enough patience to read the terms of service completely and it applies to the gambling site as well but I am nit going to simply click the I agree button either, I will take a look at it and try to read few things and if it is okay then I will okay with it.
Haha, we are pretty similar, TOS are look and it's not easy to understand, better not read it and just rely on the feedback about the site, problem is solve and we can start gambling anytime, besides, a site with good reputation are likely to have a good TOS.
October 31, 2020, 06:30:13 AM
I don't have enough patience to read the terms of service completely and it applies to the gambling site as well but I am nit going to simply click the I agree button either, I will take a look at it and try to read few things and if it is okay then I will okay with it.
October 31, 2020, 04:11:33 AM
My vote for "no" because I connect to the gambling websites not from restricted countries and I'm not doing any bad things. There were a couple of times when I read the TOS of FortuneJack or Stake.com to help another user.
October 31, 2020, 04:07:43 AM
I want to make a survey from gamblers in the forum if they are really reading the TOS of the gambling sites they are playing with.
Therefore, I request you to vote and give an explanation on why you voted yes or no?
Therefore, I request you to vote and give an explanation on why you voted yes or no?
This may be embarrassing but I usually just scroll and check whatever TOS appears on the screen. I remember when I used to gamble my online skins from a game, I just trade and gamble without even considering the mandates of the TOS. There was a time that I asked myself on why the commission of this website was absurdly high, only to realize that everything was stated on their TOS.
From there, I learned my lesson to read the TOS of a gambling site especially if I were to continue gambling again.
Yes, reading TOS is important to know their terms and conditions,
without reading their TOS, I might accidentally violate one of their rules and this might cause me trouble which I do not really want to. It actually take only a few minutes to read so I better read it than being sorry in the end.
without reading their TOS, I might accidentally violate one of their rules and this might cause me trouble which I do not really want to. It actually take only a few minutes to read so I better read it than being sorry in the end.
I remember that I had a friend who lost around $1000 worth of BTC due to the TOS of the gambling website. He was not able to withdraw and get the funds due to some conflict. But that is true, it is essential to read and understand the TOS of the gambling website.
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