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Team work is definitely an integral part in the success of a team, but honestly speaking not a lot of people will take team cohesion and trust into account when betting because it's not something that you can see at face value, most of the time it becomes obvious after a careful game observation and even then it can't be guaranteed you are correct unless you're part of the team itself.

Quote from: Vaskiy on February 18, 2021, 05:05:39 PM

Team integrity is a must with football and all games where the contribution of each and every player is required. In games like cricket even a single person can change the scenario. With football along with integrity, each player are trained to be perfect for specific position. This needs to be considered, because even if a single player does it wrong the plan can't be executed perfect.

Most of the time I look for the forward players, because the ball finally reaches the player passing all other players positioned to pass it. The forward is the one to make the goal. Teams cohesion is important, without which games will be like movies where we knew that the hero's team will be winning the match.

This is interesting, though I think it's pulling the situation to a stretch. However, I'd like to take your opinion in games like basketball where it's really fast-paced, or better yet eSports like League of Legends.

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Team integrity is a must with football and all games where the contribution of each and every player is required. In games like cricket even a single person can change the scenario. With football along with integrity, each player are trained to be perfect for specific position. This needs to be considered, because even if a single player does it wrong the plan can't be executed perfect.

Most of the time I look for the forward players, because the ball finally reaches the player passing all other players positioned to pass it. The forward is the one to make the goal. Teams cohesion is important, without which games will be like movies where we knew that the hero's team will be winning the match.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 18, 2021, 09:32:11 AM

question: do you ever try to assess the integrity of the team itself in any way before placing a bet? Do you think it matters in real life, or is it just a nice fantasy of a TV show?

I think the NFL (american football) is a good platform for answering this question.

Sometimes the offense of a team will perform perfectly. While their defense performs horribly. The lackluster performance of their support players will negate the outstanding performance of star players.

Outstanding athletes trend towards being the most motivated while lower tier athletes trend towards the opposite. It could be common in many sports for teams with the highest percentage of extremely motivated athletes to be the most successful.

One example of this could be the tampa bay buccaneers winning the superbowl 2020/2021. They may not have been the most talented or popular team. But it did seem as if they wanted it more. They were the most motivated. This type of positive team cohesion could be a major contributing factor behind their victory.

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Of course it applies to real life, you need to carefully check team's currently statistics before betting. Teams which have only a *star* player and nothing more are just useful to promote the best player's career individually. The strategy for rival teams is very easy on these cases: just neutralize the best player during the match with fierce chasing and the rest of the team won't be able to do anything.
On the other hand, balanced teams which have many average players can offer a harder challenge to rivals. That is because the team's strategy relies on different elements and not only in one super-star player, so it's hard to neutralize such strategies.

As average teams aren't the favorite ones you can make a nice profit by picking the right one at the right match if you read these statistics correctly and of course, if you are lucky.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 18, 2021, 09:32:11 AM

After all, football is a team sport, so the team working hard together is not less important than a few very strong players scoring some goals, right?
Those who bet on football matches and do thorough research often look into injured players and stuff like this, but I have a question: do you ever try to assess the integrity of the team itself in any way before placing a bet? Do you think it matters in real life, or is it just a nice fantasy of a TV show?

It is much better to have those kind of research or finding out information on a certain team before making any bets rather than on making blind bets.
If you are already experienced into this field then you can eventually spot out that those sentiments are pure guess and speculation into someone
who doesnt have any experience or dont even know on what he's been trying to suggest on.Its still up to you if you do really consider out those
calls and apply it or you would stick out into your own.

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I think that only the coach and the athletes themselves can know for sure about the relationship between the players and the level of team unity. We can only guess thanks to past games and news, but everything can change at any minute, so I think this is a very complicated analysis that can lead to more mistakes and only confuse.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 18, 2021, 09:32:11 AM

...... do you ever try to assess the integrity of the team itself in any way before placing a bet? Do you think it matters in real life, or is it just a nice fantasy of a TV show?

Integrity is such a big word and makes me think a lot of things. Can we just stick to cohesion? It's certainly a factor when you know there are conflicts within the team or when everyone got each other's back. We can take Chelsea at the beginning of the season as an example. There were people who had high hopes that the team would do well and blend together. It started well until results were not favorable anymore leading to some rumors of Lampard falling out with players and some staff.

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I've just finished watching a TV show "Ted Lasso" which is about a guy coaching an EPL football club without even knowing football. The point is, he focuses not on the strong individual players, but on the team's morale and cohesion for the game. Here's a poster in case you might've seen it but aren't sure:

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After all, football is a team sport, so the team working hard together is not less important than a few very strong players scoring some goals, right?
Those who bet on football matches and do thorough research often look into injured players and stuff like this, but I have a question: do you ever try to assess the integrity of the team itself in any way before placing a bet? Do you think it matters in real life, or is it just a nice fantasy of a TV show?

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