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legendary
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December 04, 2020, 03:38:41 AM
If you can prove that viruses are not exosomes, that is.     Cool

exosomes are HUMAN dna biological transport vehicles
virusus are their own RNA biological transport vehicles.

exosomes are under 100nm
covid are over 100nm

inshort their blueprints/design are different
analogy:
a virus is a weaponised tank and an exosome is a car.
its spikey dog toy ball vs a recreational golf ball

Friendly reminder that Dr. Fauci, after literal months of ignoring the American Academy of Pediatrics who stated in June that schools should be open, now up until these last couple weeks recognized that schools should be open. But apparently dem's feel safe when someone like this is in charge.

its not that simple.
although kids themselves do not die as much. they are still spreaders. and when in a classroom of 30+ kids in close proximity. thats 30x families interacting essentially.
also by kids being at school, parents are then less likely to want to stay home/work from home. so parents too would be going back to work/socialising more which adds onto the excess of points of contact.

you can see this by although UK covid restrictions relaxed in summer. the rise in cases started in september when schools reopened and parents went back to work.
UK has some area's that can trace some spreads being in excess due to schools/universities.

There are loads of videos
Anything on Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, Instagram, etc., should be taken with a large grain is salt. Videos certainly don't prove anything. "Common sense" based in misinformation or incomplete information is worthless.

I'll take a pass on the tinfoil-hat conspiracy theories and fake internet news thank you.

when conspiracy nutters search out stupid things. social media check their cookies and offer them suggestions for more stupid things. in a short time conspiracy nutters are only seeing stupid suggestions that echo chamber their initial thought.
in short: when an idiot searches for people that are interested in aliens. social media suggest alien related articles and people interested. idiots then talk to those people and suddenly the echo chamber makes idiots think aliens did abduct them because everyone(in their circle jerk chamber) knows about aliens.

reality is they are just in a small bubble chamber of a few idiots and not interacting amungst the millions of rational common sense people.

prime example. there are 7billion people in the world but only a few million that own/have used bitcoin. but people on this forum think the whole world know/used/own bitcoin. where as there are 7billion people that dont know or care about it. so bitcoiners start to think bitcoin is mainstream and a world accepted currency because everyone they talk to on this forum knows/uses bitcoin. reality is outside of this forum its not even 0.1% accepted/used in the world
legendary
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December 03, 2020, 06:50:02 PM
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/residents-in-city-of-los-angeles-ordered-to-remain-in-their-homes-amid-covid-19-surge/

New California restrictions. You can't even go for a walk in your own street block unless it's deemed "essential."

Remember not even a month ago when Gavin Newsome was disobeying CDC guidelines to attend some snobby dinner? https://www.foxla.com/news/fox-11-obtains-exclusive-photos-of-gov-newsom-at-french-restaurant-allegedly-not-following-covid-19-protocols

Remember folks, apparently it was orange Hitler's fault that COVID19 spread and that democrats/Joe Biden is going to take this thing super seriously. I'll have whatever dem's are smoking to not recognize how duped they got by the MSM into thinking democrats were better equipped to handled this pandemic.

Also, Joe Biden apparently asked Dr. Fauci to be on his COVID19 response team.

Friendly reminder that Dr. Fauci, after literal months of ignoring the American Academy of Pediatrics who stated in June that schools should be open, now up until these last couple weeks recognized that schools should be open. But apparently dem's feel safe when someone like this is in charge.

legendary
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You're never too old to think young.
December 03, 2020, 06:20:33 PM
There are loads of videos where it is proven by common sense, and through science, that lockdowns, masks and the medical are and have been the cause of spreading the disease and killing thousands way more than if there hadn't been any intervention at all. Look here https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/ to see the videos that prove this. Then search for many more videos and audios all over the Internet that show the same.

Surely you aren't serious about the misinformation we all get bombarded with on the Mainstream Social Media propaganda network.

Anything on Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, Instagram, etc., should be taken with a large grain is salt. Videos certainly don't prove anything. "Common sense" based in misinformation or incomplete information is worthless.

I'll take a pass on the tinfoil-hat conspiracy theories and fake internet news thank you.
legendary
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December 02, 2020, 09:13:54 PM
Even Dr. Fausti admits that when it takes over 35 'cycles' to get a positive, the person is almost never able to pass on the disease to anyone else even if they were at one time infected.  'Replication competent'.  Yet they are getting the news media to cause a panic over 'new cases' which require cycles up into the 40's.  Why?

no covid testing platform on the planet is ever going to deem someone as a 'new case which requires up into the 40's'

you and badecker must really be members of the same conspiracy cult. your scripts are getting too similar.
what you have to realise is ..if they tested people way before showing symptoms. they may catch people before it becomes peak of infection. where by the number would also be 35 at the start.. and thus those people would definitely become infectious after

but by offering tests when symptoms exist or a few days after coming into contact with an infectious person.
the 35 result is more then likely to be due to very low exposure or at the end of their infection. simply due to when they bothered to take the test.

however the 35 number is not a guarantee that they were never infectious(if test taken late) or wont be infectious(if test taken immediately)

heck some people with bad immunity but low exposure may not even be able to fight off even low viral load. thus although the initial exponential from 35 is slow. it can later spike real high

If you can prove that viruses are not exosomes, that is.     Cool
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www.diginomics.com
December 02, 2020, 05:45:53 PM
The primary purpose of this declared state of emergency is not public health but to suppress our economy and usher in a globalist government.
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December 02, 2020, 02:00:41 PM


legendary
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December 02, 2020, 10:06:54 AM
Even Dr. Fausti admits that when it takes over 35 'cycles' to get a positive, the person is almost never able to pass on the disease to anyone else even if they were at one time infected.  'Replication competent'.  Yet they are getting the news media to cause a panic over 'new cases' which require cycles up into the 40's.  Why?

no covid testing platform on the planet is ever going to deem someone as a 'new case which requires up into the 40's'

you and badecker must really be members of the same conspiracy cult. your scripts are getting too similar.
what you have to realise is ..if they tested people way before showing symptoms. they may catch people before it becomes peak of infection. where by the number would also be 35 at the start.. and thus those people would definitely become infectious after

but by offering tests when symptoms exist or a few days after coming into contact with an infectious person.
the 35 result is more then likely to be due to very low exposure or at the end of their infection. simply due to when they bothered to take the test.

however the 35 number is not a guarantee that they were never infectious(if test taken late) or wont be infectious(if test taken immediately)

heck some people with bad immunity but low exposure may not even be able to fight off even low viral load. thus although the initial exponential from 35 is slow. it can later spike real high
legendary
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December 02, 2020, 01:28:40 AM
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It's a fact that the PCR test multiplies whatever bacteria/virus is "fed" to it.
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Allow me to make one modest correction because it is important.

What they do is to try to find a piece of the genetic material which is supposed to be present _only_ in a particular _species_ of bacteria/virus/whatever and use that to make a 'primer'.

If the segment of genetic material is present in the sample, it is bound by the primer sequence and amplified.

One of the problems with using 'PCR' for detecting infection is that these sequences might, for various reasons, be found in samples of people who are NOT sick.  Or they might be found on a papaya.  They can be found in minute quantities just by someone breathing them in from the environment.  They can also be found by someone who had an infection in the distant past and killed it off because the waste products from the destroyed viruses are encapsulated and excreted over a long period of time.

Even Dr. Fausti admits that when it takes over 35 'cycles' to get a positive, the person is almost never able to pass on the disease to anyone else even if they were at one time infected.  'Replication competent'.  Yet they are getting the news media to cause a panic over 'new cases' which require cycles up into the 40's.  Why?

The reason why is that this thing appears to be a pure scam which is being used as an operation to get as many people as possible injected with a brand new technology involving re-programming their cells with designer genetic material.  Why might they want to do this?  It's a legitimate...if not a critical...thing to get to the bottom of.  And get to the bottom of BEFORE you or your kids get the jab if possible.

legendary
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December 02, 2020, 01:11:42 AM
the stupid part badecker thinks works for him about 'replicate anything 1000 times and you will pick up every disease in the world'..
well..
1. they only cycle it 40times, where by they defined a threshold of below 35ct is the threshold of infection.
they do not cycle it 50-100-1000 hoping to get a positive to fake numbers.
thats not how the test works
people that were tested where they know who they passed it onto and who that passed onto. they worked out which would be the threshold number for those that are infectious. so they set the limit of 35ct and dont bother above 40ct.
they know that if the number is 15ct. then that is highly infectious. again based off of loads off sampling and also investigating.  the numbers are not decided by magic. they come from studies, research and actual tests.
they have dont hundreds of thousands of tests. different countries, different labs and all came to the consensus

so if you have a 38ct your deemed as not infectious. they wont bother trying to cycle it further because the further the need to cycle it the result would be that a person is not infectious
in short the more times you need to cycle it the less infectious you are to a point your no longer infectious
thus no point over-cycling the samples.

do you understand now??

2. the test only looks for certain things. EG it wont show HIV because its not testing for HIV. it wont pick up ebola if its not testing for ebola

its like at night all cars look black. but if you use a special colour filter lens you can pick out differences between a black car and the night. another filter lens can pick out a grey car, another filter lens can pick out a blue car.  (like how 3d glasses pick out the left or right angle image from a 3d movie)

you can verify the accuracy by looking at the cars during the day and seeing and comparing the clear vision data to the night filter data..
so then the next night knowing what night-filter-lens colour represents what car colour. you can the look for all the blue cars in the neighbourbood.

this is an over simplified analogy of how the reagents work. but atleast it might help the simple minds understand it better enough to see how badecker version is completely not how things work.

cycling a sample will not make ebola look like covid. getting a red car to drive around the filter lens camera 100 times wont suddenly make the car turn blue
legendary
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December 01, 2020, 09:40:22 AM

not wow
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again for the multiple amount of times.
the details in the link have been debunked
the link talks about the situation of PCR covid test as of february and as of america.
by this they want to say that AMERICA has not proved covid in february due to lack of AMERICAN patients to be diagnosed and lack of AMERICAN samples to then be examined and then put into other recipients to see if what was extracted contained a virus.
by saying 'they only using china data'

the thing is that by late february-march. it did pass the koch.rivers.bell test.
and hundred+countries also done their own independant tests/studies/research/trials and also came to the same conclusion.

it is funny how when a 'doctor' in april made a video, a 'doctor' that does not specialise in viruses used outdated data from early february did not use updated info(late feb, march,april)
this debunked video made idiots continually think that the story was valid 'cos doctor said'

people really need to do research about links presented to them and not just blindly believe the story they read
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there are now hundreds of thousands of studies and research papers and include the details of methodology and even details about the whole thing.
heck even the people the 'doctor' quoted, debunked the doctor by saying the 'doctor' mis-quoted/twisted the context and basically lied.

so remember folks
its now december2020. not february2020.

It's a fact that the PCR test is not a test for diagnosing any disease.

It's a fact that the PCR test multiplies whatever bacteria/virus is "fed" to it.

It's a fact that the PCR test is doesn't show synptoms, but instead hides the truth about who is sick and who is not.

The so-called debunking that you are talking about is simply a mis-read of the above facts. Those facts haven't been debunked, and can't be debunked without changing the whole PCR test. Is that what you are trying to tell us? That the test is a different test than it was back in Jan./Feb.?... and only is being called "PCR" to confuse everybody?

PCR test cases are going through the roof. Asymptomatic numbers are going through the roof. Deaths are going way down, past all the sub-basements. PCR is a fake.

The present Covid pandemic is a big fat scam.

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legendary
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December 01, 2020, 04:16:04 AM

not wow
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again for the multiple amount of times.
the details in the link have been debunked
the link talks about the situation of PCR covid test as of february and as of america.
by this they want to say that AMERICA has not proved covid in february due to lack of AMERICAN patients to be diagnosed and lack of AMERICAN samples to then be examined and then put into other recipients to see if what was extracted contained a virus.
by saying 'they only using china data'

the thing is that by late february-march. it did pass the koch.rivers.bell test.
and hundred+countries also done their own independant tests/studies/research/trials and also came to the same conclusion.

it is funny how when a 'doctor' in april made a video, a 'doctor' that does not specialise in viruses used outdated data from early february did not use updated info(late feb, march,april)
this debunked video made idiots continually think that the story was valid 'cos doctor said'

people really need to do research about links presented to them and not just blindly believe the story they read
..
there are now hundreds of thousands of studies and research papers and include the details of methodology and even details about the whole thing.
heck even the people the 'doctor' quoted, debunked the doctor by saying the 'doctor' mis-quoted/twisted the context and basically lied.

so remember folks
its now december2020. not february2020.
legendary
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legendary
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November 30, 2020, 09:03:43 PM
It wasn't enough to call people dying of comorbidities Covid deaths. Now they are lumping the flu and pneumonia in with Covid, just to increase the Covid numbers. Why would they do this? The Covid numbers are falling so rapidly alone, that they need something to bolster Covid.


COVID-19 Pt. 2: CDC's New "PIC" and The Hidden Data



In part 1 of this 5-part report on Covid-19, Corey's Digs detailed a necessary reality check due to the media creating a frenzy over hospitalizations, despite the fact that the 2017-2018 flu season was hit with 810,000 hospitalizations, far more than Covid, and no one heard a peep about it. There were no lockdowns, restrictions, hyperbole, or mandatory masks, and 61,000 people died that season.

Most people aren't aware that the CDC has lumped influenza together with Covid and pneumonia in death rates with a new name called "PIC." This comes after the CDC confirmed that only 6% of Covid-related death certificates indicate Covid as the only cause, while 94% list other illnesses as the cause with an average of 2.6 comorbidities. In other words, if someone was in the hospital dying of heart disease and they tested everyone for Covid to separate them to other rooms or wings, Covid was marked on their death certificate. A perfect example of this is a nurse Corey's Digs recently spoke with who had four deaths at her hospital. Two were in hospice care, one died of stage four cancer, and the other died of end stage COPD, but all four were documented as having Covid, so those deaths get added to the tallies being told to the public, who are none the wiser. What does that do to the actual statistics?

"PIC" – Hiding The Data

One of the most incredible things happening right before everyone's eyes, is the subversion of data by the Covid Tracking Project, the CDC, Johns Hopkins, legacy news media, and numerous other sources. This is sheer tricky, and a far cry from "science."


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November 30, 2020, 10:35:41 AM

So the PCR test is a scam.
https://cormandrostenreview.com/report/
legendary
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November 27, 2020, 12:46:31 PM
Social distancing and mask order at its best

i guess you didnt get the advice over the last 8 months
around family, in your own home you dont need to mask up/distance

but when you are meeting people outside of your family, people you dont know where they been. EG going to a retail shop. then yes mask up, keep your distance

its similar advice and common sense as 'stranger danger'
its similar advice as dont pick up chewing gum off the floor
if you dont know where its been, dont come into contact with it

Oh, frank1. You know that what you say is simply blab. Read this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55696866. And consider the following:

There are loads of videos where it is proven by common sense, and through science, that lockdowns, masks and the medical are and have been the cause of spreading the disease and killing thousands way more than if there hadn't been any intervention at all. Look here https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/ to see the videos that prove this. Then search for many more videos and audios all over the Internet that show the same. Sign up here https://thehighwire.com/, for free, to get the sources for everything expressed in the videos.

Some individual videos to watch are:
GETTING COVID PROTECTS YOU FOR YEARS - https://www.bitchute.com/video/sj4F67ykuSCr/
NIH MASK ARTICLE SERIOUSLY FLAWED - https://www.bitchute.com/video/xLasCAi3dNYY/
NEW STUDY CASTS DOUBT ON MASK EFFICACY - https://www.bitchute.com/video/agcXweuvHfoS/
FORMER WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL ON DEADLY COST OF LOCKDOWN - https://www.bitchute.com/video/xou0Pn9MoZz6/


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legendary
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November 27, 2020, 11:05:09 AM
Social distancing and mask order at its best

i guess you didnt get the advice over the last 8 months
around family, in your own home you dont need to mask up/distance

but when you are meeting people outside of your family, people you dont know where they been. EG going to a retail shop. then yes mask up, keep your distance

its similar advice and common sense as 'stranger danger'
its similar advice as dont pick up chewing gum off the floor
if you dont know where its been, dont come into contact with it
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Pro financial, medical liberty
November 27, 2020, 02:34:56 AM

Like I said. The Covid we have now is not the same one as in March. The strain changes, .........



Where is the scientific proof of it, any strain?

Fugg the mask order
https://youtu.be/CqoYT2hIflQ

Social distancing and mask order at its best
legendary
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November 27, 2020, 02:29:12 AM
a car is a car even if the paint changes colour
however the corona that was around during summer2019and before, is not the same ancestry as the strain in winter 2019

the spring summer 2019 corona is a ancestry that has been going around humans since mers 2012
the winter 2019(covid) strain is a complete different ancestry, from wild animals in late 2019 to humans
in short spring summer 2019 corona is a ford and the winter strain is a tesla


the weekly (tesla)"mutations" you speak of happening weekly/monthly in covid are as divergant as the same make and model and year manufactured car having a different shade of the same paint

the monthly changes are not huge mutation /different make and model of a car
its not divergent mutation in as much as the difference between a car and a truck

there are actual RNA studies that show that the spring summer 2019 strain has the same IP2&4 identifiers to say its a car(corona family). but doesnt have the same E&N1&N2 identifiers. meaning they are different make and models
the spring/summer 2019 did not mutate into the winter2019(we call covid)
its clearly seen the lineage of both differ and came from different ancestries.. (different car manufacturers)
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the main difference between the spring/summer 2019 vs the winter 2019 did not mutate due to normal spread of humans.
it was a species change from wild animals that caused the big mutate.
hense why there was worry over covid entering the mink population with fear the mink mutates might cause bigger change when mink covid comes back to human spread.
human to human spread does not cause the same divergent strain change. but different species could
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maybe try to learn about a subject you have been talking about for 8months instead of creating fantasies based off of scripts you read on conspiracy theory sites
legendary
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November 26, 2020, 07:02:27 PM
^^^ Considering the symptoms, it was already here,

Strains? We have over a hundred strains, They change so fast that there's no way to vaccinate against but a few of them. And by the time that vaccines are around, the strains that a vaccine would fight, are already gone... evolved into something new.

What we are fighting isn't the Covid of September last year. It isn't the Covid of March this year... nor April, June, August, or even October 2020. It's something completely new every few weeks if not sooner. Each time it mutates, give it a new name so that we know what we are locking down for. It isn't Covid.

the human circulating corona spring summer 2019. was not covid19.never was

the covid 19 came about from a wetmarket in winter 2019. where by it transferred from what is presumed a wild pangolin to its hunter and then to people the hunter/farmer came into contact with

this covid19 strain is a father strain. with known descendant mini strain changes

basically this new strain is a new book titled:
"illogical trumpettes exploit stupidity subconsciously"
yes the context of paragraphs in the book(nucleus) might change some words in each release/edition. but the main identifier title of the book(spike protein) remains
"illogical trumpettes exploit stupidity subconsciously"

the vaccines look for the book title/spike/key that gains entry to human ace receptor based cells
the vaccine is not looking for the story grammar/nucleus/random pocket junk

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please try and learn some of this stuff. its getting annoying having to dumb things down for you. especially if i have to repeat it because you act like you havnt read it(like previous exampled you reply about then weks later act as if you never read)

Like I said. The Covid we have now is not the same one as in March. The strain changes, but not the name. Why not the name as well? However, there are other doctors that suggest that the strain has not changed except in a few superfluous outer ways. This means it is the same strain that was around September 2019. How do we tell? By the symptoms.

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