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legendary
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March 31, 2021, 09:18:37 PM
The Bible says, Proverbs 24:11,12:
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11Rescue those being led away to death;

hold back those staggering toward slaughter.

12If you say, “But we knew nothing about this,”

does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?

Does not he who guards your life know it?

Will he not repay everyone according to what they have done?

Yes, we knew about the dangers the vaxxers were getting themselves into. And we truly tried to stop them. But there were way too many of them. We simply couldn't do it.

Don't feel so sorry for vaxxers. The whole herd of them, running over the vaccine cliff like lemmings. You don't really want to take their freedom away from them, do you? You warned them. Let 'em die since that's what they seem to want.

Start thinking of all the free property that will be yours for the taking. Just hang on a little longer. Those vaxxers will all be dead from the vaccine soon. Then you can live in the finest houses, drive the most glamorous cars, etc. It will be years before the free supplies run out.

Just be honest and don't start encouraging them to get vaxxed just so you can inherit the property of dead people. Keep on trying... at least a little. But don't take their freedom away from them either. After all, they really want their freedom.

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March 31, 2021, 02:55:01 PM
This literally happened in Pakistan

legendary
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March 31, 2021, 01:24:13 PM
One may or may not believe in a vaccine, but we must understand that this increases the likelihood of developing massive immunity against the virus and its modifications, while the formation of immunity "naturally" is a complex process, not guaranteed and is clearly associated with significant mortality. The choice is yours - try to defeat the virus yourself or get help in the fight against Covid-19.
The only thing I agree with is the prohibition of using any "fakes" instead of a vaccine like "Sputnik" and the like, such drugs should not get on the market - in their own country, such manufacturers, let their citizens treat at least urinotherapy Smiley

I understand that you are from Ukraine, but it will be wrong to call Sputnik V vaccine as a fake. According to the Lancet (which is the most reputed peer-reviewed general medical journal in the world), it is having an efficacy of 92%, which is higher than the efficacy that has been reported by Chinese vaccines such as Sinovac and Sinopharm, and British vaccines such as AstraZeneca. So far 58 countries have provided EUA for Sputnik V. Tens of millions of doses have been administered, without any side effects being reported.

The fact that I am a citizen of Ukraine is a fact, I do not hide it. But citizenship does not affect the assessment of anything Smiley I just as negatively assessed some of the events, statements, actions of the United States. Likewise, I have a negative attitude towards some statements in Poland and Israel. In a word, I have no obsession with Russia. I just reasonably evaluate this or that entity. About my claims to Sputnik-V:
1. It is not for nothing that he does not receive international registration - the full cycle of testing has not been completed, and some of the results are classified and are not handed over to international organizations. It's easy to check. If you do not find it yourself, ask, I will provide you with links to the original sources.
2. The hyper activity of Russia in promoting and "cramming" the vaccine suggests that the goals are clearly different. One of them is to try to make money, at best, at worst - to make money on a dangerous drug.
3. Some statistics, everything is checked very simply. Active vaccination of Sputnik-V, in Russia, began at the end of 2020. And then suddenly we find out that comparing the official indicators of January-February 2020 to 2021, attention, mortality in Russia increased by 30%. At the same time, neither the growth of deaths from coronavirus, nor from seasonal diseases has been recorded anywhere. Don't you find this coincidence strange?

For example, I still have a complaint against Pfizer - why, in a situation of global crisis, they cannot afford to release their vaccine under a license (under special conditions)?

I still have claims to the EU countries regarding poor-quality control at the borders, I am primarily concerned about the movement of potential cases between the EU and Ukraine.

And of course - huge claims against our idiotic government, for absolute inaction and criminal actions ...

So it's hard to blame me for bias Smiley

But back to your post. I take YOUR phrase: "So far 58 countries have provided EUA for Sputnik V. Tens of millions of doses have been administered without any side effects."
1. Can I link to the list of countries where, within the framework of the EUA (permission for emergency use), Sputnik-V received permission?
No, not the statements he made by individual politicians about “we want to buy,” but the official recognition of this vaccine as safe and acceptable for use on the territory of the country.
2. "... TENS OF MILLION doses have been administered ..."
 - this is generally extremely dubious information, since even according to Russian official data, only 3.5 million doses were planned to be released in January 2021. And this is an increasing indicator, i.e. even fewer were produced a few months ago. Accordingly, what are the tens of millions of injections? Smiley
I can assume that you read a lot of Russian media, where the picture is "perfect", but the truth is far from reality Smiley
UPD
3. Well, I'll add about the Lancet. Below is a link to the "analysis" of an article in the Lancet about Sputinik-V. You won't ignore such information, will you?
PS I didn't look for an article in English, but it is easily translated from Russian into English

https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-54086795

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March 31, 2021, 10:07:52 AM
Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?


I trust it so much that I am actively looking for places to move to, where the vaccine HASN'T been administered to anyone.


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Good luck finding one, maybe you can buy some island, but that island would be part of a country so it won't be valid, you may enter Antarctic or arctic where you can live with your fellow believers. There, you will not really need any vaccine, and you will be even well preserved after you died, unless the snow caps where you're burried collapse then melted
legendary
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March 31, 2021, 07:47:17 AM
saying your ignorance and lies about how PCR tests work in different topics does not make it true
chromosome 8 positive = test failure=covid negative


Check the CDC VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) data - https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/datasets.html. The highlights of the data are as follows. As of March 12, 2021:
- 1,739 deaths
- 3,976 hospitalizations
- 6,716 urgent care visits
- 5,838 office visits
- 324 anaphylaxis
- 398 Bell's Palsy

out of 50million
=6.5 per million bells palsy = 0.000648%
=34 per million death=0.0034%

covid has more then 3% death. 10% severe 40% mild

making the vaccine atleast 1000x more beneficial than catching covid

Seems to me that you are neglecting the 90% that is medically agreed on, whose report never makes it to VAERS.

And you are forgetting the 30+ thousand that were reported, but where the doctor makes a judgmental decision that they were not vaccine cases. Judgemental because the doctor is slanted in the direction of getting a vaccine out into the public?

There is so much screwing around with this whole thing, that the vaccines should be dropped as dangerous. I mean, if somebody found that a breakfast cereal on the grocery store shelves was causing this many deaths, and potentially a lot more, the company would recall all the cereal, and the FDA might even shut the company down entirely with a big investigation ensuing.

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legendary
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March 31, 2021, 07:36:48 AM
One may or may not believe in a vaccine, but we must understand that this increases the likelihood of developing massive immunity against the virus and its modifications, while the formation of immunity "naturally" is a complex process, not guaranteed and is clearly associated with significant mortality. The choice is yours - try to defeat the virus yourself or get help in the fight against Covid-19.
The only thing I agree with is the prohibition of using any "fakes" instead of a vaccine like "Sputnik" and the like, such drugs should not get on the market - in their own country, such manufacturers, let their citizens treat at least urinotherapy Smiley

I understand that you are from Ukraine, but it will be wrong to call Sputnik V vaccine as a fake. According to the Lancet (which is the most reputed peer-reviewed general medical journal in the world), it is having an efficacy of 92%, which is higher than the efficacy that has been reported by Chinese vaccines such as Sinovac and Sinopharm, and British vaccines such as AstraZeneca. So far 58 countries have provided EUA for Sputnik V. Tens of millions of doses have been administered, without any side effects being reported.
legendary
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March 31, 2021, 07:20:13 AM
saying your ignorance and lies about how PCR tests work in different topics does not make it true
chromosome 8 positive = test failure=covid negative


Check the CDC VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) data - https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/datasets.html. The highlights of the data are as follows. As of March 12, 2021:
- 1,739 deaths
- 3,976 hospitalizations
- 6,716 urgent care visits
- 5,838 office visits
- 324 anaphylaxis
- 398 Bell's Palsy

based on your numbers.. which i doubt are accurate or hold weight to context.. but anyway

out of 50million
=6.5 per million bells palsy = 0.000648%
=34 per million death=0.0034%
=740 per million overal reports=0.074% complaints filed

however
covid has more then 3% death. 10% severe 40% mild

making the vaccine atleast 1000x more beneficial than catching covid
legendary
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March 31, 2021, 06:24:07 AM
One may or may not believe in a vaccine, but we must understand that this increases the likelihood of developing massive immunity against the virus and its modifications, while the formation of immunity "naturally" is a complex process, not guaranteed and is clearly associated with significant mortality. The choice is yours - try to defeat the virus yourself or get help in the fight against Covid-19.
The only thing I agree with is the prohibition of using any "fakes" instead of a vaccine like "Sputnik" and the like, such drugs should not get on the market - in their own country, such manufacturers, let their citizens treat at least urinotherapy Smiley

The thing that is really interesting is, the PCR test searched for the virus in us, and found a matching sequence for the virus in Chromosome 8... speaking about PCR in the USA. Every last healthy person on earth has that sequence in all of the cells (trillions of cells per person) of his whole body. Why? Because Chromosome 8 is in all the cells.

What does this have to do with the vaccine? The vaccine is designed to protect us from the disease. But if Chromosome 8 is the disease (or at least has the disease), the vaccine is developing massive immunity in us... against ourselves!

Most of us are having a difficult enough time just living life. And now we are trying to become immune to ourselves on top of it?

Go somewhere else - not the vaccine - to get cured from Covid.

The increase in suicides around the world in the pandemic is startling. And especially so because suicide is something that is generally very difficult for a person to force himself to do. The whole body is screaming at the person to NOT suicide himself. Survival is written into the natural code in all of us. Suicide goes against that code.

But now we have the vaccine. We have an excuse to suicide ourselves. Get the vaccine and suicide yourself in the process of protecting yourself from Covid. How extraordinarily exciting news to tho those with suicide tendencies.

Check the CDC VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) data - https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/datasets.html. The highlights of the data are as follows. As of March 12, 2021:
- 1,739 deaths
- 3,976 hospitalizations
- 6,716 urgent care visits
- 5,838 office visits
- 324 anaphylaxis
- 398 Bell's Palsy

There are two notes about this:
1. There were 38,444 reports, most of which were dismissed by the medical as of no relevance;
2. VAERS generally only receives about 10% of the actual cases that happen.

Suicide is working for lots of people with the vaccine. And it's assisted suicide, with all kinds of medical people taking on Dr. Kevorkian's role, without even knowing it. But what is turning out to be the big point is all the suicide failures, resulting in loads of other problems, like Bell's Palsy.

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legendary
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March 31, 2021, 05:56:49 AM
Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?

I trust it so much that I am actively looking for places to move to, where the vaccine HASN'T been administered to anyone.


The entire world is owned by the international banking cartel and they are all going to be injecting.  To what quota in what countries and over what time period is currently to be seen.  Countries who don't play ball be cut out of the 'world to come' financially if they do not and such a thing is a death sentence.

Countries who are so dis-organized that they don't get enough jab early will likely have access to discoveries of more advanced scientific data about what, exactly, these things are as the formulations evolve, and also see the carnage wrought on other 'early adopter' populations.  So it is possible that the 'long tail' of people who resisted the 'daily donut' or whatever gimmicks TPTB dangle in front of them will be able to hold out until the eugenics nature of things is more obvious and the program is terminated at risk of widespread life-of-death revolt.

The flip-side of this argument is that said country, or the entire world, will enter into such a totalitarian nightmare that it won't matter if the sheep are dropping dead on average of 10 minutes after the injection because injecting everyone is what TPTB want to have happen and their ain't shit that the peeps can do about it.  Basket-case countries are probably more prone to comply with Gates' directives in this scenario.

Countries where you can buy off 'health care officials' (and anyone else) are recommended.  Or intimidate them in other ways.

You can live quite happily 'off grid' and in luxury in a 'developing' country if you have a fair bit of money, and especially in a form which can be transferred around.  I've not been to a shopping mall in half a year.  Having a reliable partner who is from the country is nearly an absolute necessity though.  After early in Trump's presidency when it was clear that he was Israel First (and  America Last to a fair degree) I decided to be gone by 2020 when I expected the shit to really hit the fan...which it did on just about Jan 1 2020.  Thus, I got real serious and had a pretty solid plan by 2018.  Even so, it took some hustle to land it an good spot for the start of the fireworks.  Starting late gives more retrospective insight into what 'the shit' is all about, but it also comes which a whole set of issues associated with being late to the party.

I had a sense that I may never be back (to my beloved home) when I left, and it turns out that that may well be true.  The sense was not strong enough to have taken certain actions which I now regret though.  The main one is no leaving enough Power of Attorney with my lawyer and family back in the U.S..  Anyone expatriating to avoid the controlled demolition of the U.S. (and likely other representations of 'Amalek'/'Edom') is advised to consider this.

legendary
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March 31, 2021, 04:28:29 AM
One may or may not believe in a vaccine, but we must understand that this increases the likelihood of developing massive immunity against the virus and its modifications, while the formation of immunity "naturally" is a complex process, not guaranteed and is clearly associated with significant mortality. The choice is yours - try to defeat the virus yourself or get help in the fight against Covid-19.
The only thing I agree with is the prohibition of using any "fakes" instead of a vaccine like "Sputnik" and the like, such drugs should not get on the market - in their own country, such manufacturers, let their citizens treat at least urinotherapy Smiley
legendary
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March 30, 2021, 10:57:43 AM
Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?


I trust it so much that I am actively looking for places to move to, where the vaccine HASN'T been administered to anyone.


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March 30, 2021, 04:41:55 AM
Covid: Secret filming exposes contamination risk at test results lab

"Secret filming at one of the biggest UK Covid testing labs has found evidence of potential contamination,
discarded tests and pressure to hit targets.
"

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56556806?fbclid=IwAR2UdayKpo_zy3RtjowicezZKOdJAn7EynCaKBAjBnZ_xB7p0Qi7f9GKuAs
legendary
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March 29, 2021, 09:36:45 PM
^^^ Now we know clearly from the video, above. There are any number of test DNA/RNA strands for which they try to find a duplicate in the swab or other sample. Wherever they get those strands from, nobody is certain regarding all of them. But some of them are found naturally in chromosome 8. In that case, all they have essentially done is compared a strand separated from chromosome 8 with segment in other chromosome 8 that is still right in the chromosome.

Since every normal person has these segments in his body in chromosome 8, and since all people have had this segment in their bodies for thousands of years, all we are doing is comparing a piece of chromosome 8 with a part of chromosome 8 that is in the person being tested.

To be certain, not all of the testing is done with the chromosome 8 strand. But the fact that they would compare a strand of chromosome 8 with the chromosome 8 in the bodies of all the people they test, when everybody in the world has this strand in and througout their bodies already, shows how ridiculous the PCR test is.

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legendary
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March 29, 2021, 07:33:58 PM
The whole PCR test is being used in a fraudulent way. It's a scam.
The more the tests, the more the cases, because what they are testing for is a sequence that is part of every body, with or without the Covid virus

https://www.bitchute.com/video/4bwTCk5pOiup/

Seriously?? I wanted to watch the whole video but it’s 53minutes long. So again how? I mean they how or more precisely who managed to convinced 200+ counties to test using this PCR then? Why would Iran or North Korea or even Russia, China and USA all agreed on this?

It's all about money and kickbacks. As far back as 2017 right up to the present, many, many nations around the world were/are buying $millions upon $millions of dollars worth of PCR test kits. There wasn't any Covid back then. So why were they buying the test kits? Seems kinda fishy to me.

'pcr test kits' you mean the swabs that police use for forensics
you mean the swabs that any genetic identification require

PCR is about identifying a genetic material.. its not just used to identify covid. its about forensics and many other sciency stuff your brain cant understand

depending on what parameters they set to identify

i know you dont understand what PCR is used for. or how it can be used for many things..
but if you think PCR is  new invention just for covid.. then you are fooling yourself

..
they have isolated and identified sars-cov-2
they know its genetic identity
they know its not a human cell because they actually separate out the human stuff as part of the process

the PCR test then looks for the sars-cov-2 identifiers in the remaining fluid. and they replicate the remaining fluid to enough measurable concentrate to analyse
the less they need to replicate=more concentrate already existed = more virus load
if they have to replicate if 35+ times they deem it as not having sars-cov-2
if you never had sars-cov-2 then nothing will show up no matter how many times its replicated
...
a single PRC test set to identify the sars-cov-2 sequence is not used to diagnose what symptoms someone should get in what severity in the future. its used to find the pathogen they currently have

actually having a few PCR tests at different dates can be used to narrow down a diagnoses of if the person is at the beginning or end of a infection. but a single test cannot

chromosome 8 is not used as part of the 'positive' pathogen analysis. its used for the exclusion part
the positive analysis is based on the envelope (E), nucleocapsid (N), and spike (S) proteins of the virus

the chromosome 8 does not get amplified. and is not tested for.
legendary
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March 29, 2021, 03:39:25 PM
The whole PCR test is being used in a fraudulent way. It's a scam.
The more the tests, the more the cases, because what they are testing for is a sequence that is part of every body, with or without the Covid virus

https://www.bitchute.com/video/4bwTCk5pOiup/

Seriously?? I wanted to watch the whole video but it’s 53minutes long. So again how? I mean they how or more precisely who managed to convinced 200+ counties to test using this PCR then? Why would Iran or North Korea or even Russia, China and USA all agreed on this?

It's all about money and kickbacks. As far back as 2017 right up to the present, many, many nations around the world were/are buying $millions upon $millions of dollars worth of PCR test kits. There wasn't any Covid back then. So why were they buying the test kits? Seems kinda fishy to me.

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March 29, 2021, 02:49:22 PM
The whole PCR test is being used in a fraudulent way. It's a scam.
The more the tests, the more the cases, because what they are testing for is a sequence that is part of every body, with or without the Covid virus

https://www.bitchute.com/video/4bwTCk5pOiup/

Seriously?? I wanted to watch the whole video but it’s 53minutes long. So again how? I mean they how or more precisely who managed to convinced 200+ counties to test using this PCR then? Why would Iran or North Korea or even Russia, China and USA all agreed on this?
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March 29, 2021, 02:26:01 PM


The whole PCR test is being used in a fraudulent way. It's a scam.
The more the tests, the more the cases, because what they are testing for is a sequence that is part of every body, with or without the Covid virus

https://www.bitchute.com/video/4bwTCk5pOiup/
legendary
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March 29, 2021, 11:20:07 AM
The world does not need bullshit artist, fraud advocates like you.
With the test any number of dead/positive is presented, higher cycles more positives, less cycles none or fewer test positive, fraud.

Name calling just confirms that you lost the argument. There can be high and low cycles, but Europe as a whole is going through a "high" cycle right now. Countries such as Italy, Spain and France are going through very high number of cases. So how can you justify the fact that UK and Israel are representing outliers with low number of cases? Italy has reported 417 deaths today. Spain reported 590 deaths on 26th March (data after that hasn't been released).  Leave all that.. Ireland reported 13 deaths yesterday (almost the same number as the neighboring UK, with just 1/10th of the population).
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March 29, 2021, 11:05:43 AM
"The Microbe is Nothing. The Terrain is Everything."
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March 29, 2021, 10:49:18 AM
I don't need to write a 500-word essay to prove that the vaccines are working. All I need is a few points.

1. Three months back, the United Kingdom was facing a COVID 19 catastrophe, with an average of 50,000 to 60,000 new cases and 1,000 to 2,000 daily deaths. Yesterday they reported 3,862 new cases and 19 new deaths (most of it among younger people who have not received the vaccine yet).

2. In January 2021, Israel was reporting an average of 10,000 new COVID 19 cases. Yesterday they reported a grand total of 88 new cases.

3. China reported a total of 8 new cases and 0 deaths yesterday.

And it is no coincidence that UK, China and Israel have the highest rates of vaccination in the world. The COVID 19 infections have fallen by 90% to 99% as a result of vaccination. China has vaccinated close to 100 million people.

On the other hand, countries such as Brazil, which had ignored vaccination now reports the highest number of COVID 19 cases in the world.

The world does not need bullshit artist, fraud advocates like you.
With the test any number of dead/positive is presented, higher cycles more positives, less cycles none or fewer test positive, fraud.
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