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Topic: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? - page 71. (Read 20577 times)

legendary
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February 24, 2021, 01:01:17 AM
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sorry but no. israelis had the actual vaccine and now getting on with their lives
if they thought it was a killer. they would have given it to palestinians first

You don't know shit about what the average Israeli (or the different 'tribes' within that country) got or didn't get injected into their arms.  If you claim that you do then everyone knows you are lying since there is no independent audit of any of this stuff.  Or it means that 'truth' to you is defined as what some phrama company claims about their product and their claim constitutes 'proof'.  I have a higher standard.

On the flip side, I don't know that the didn't get an 'actual vaccine' which would be a standard production run (with natural and fairly wide variation between batches.)  I don't claim to.  I just know what is possible, and I know the kinds of lies which that country in particular is know for disseminating when the political situation makes it beneficial to them.  (e.g., Iraq's WMD, the 'terrorists' blowing up the King David hotel, the 'mistaken identity' of the USS Liberty, etc, etc, etc.)

As for 'getting on with their lives', they seem to be 'getting on' with the new 'green passport' program of showing proof of vaccination in order to do a lot of things such as buying food.  A program which some of them plan to implement on all of humanity ASAP.  I know what their religious people dream about in the 'messianic age', and I know that fairly normal average Israelis are at least aware of some of these 'prophecies' whether they are particularly driven by them or not.  Look for the coming propaganda from the mainstream media that 'the Jews' will be 'a light unto the nations' with their 'green passport' and to 'heal the world.'

The Talmudic folks interpret prophesy as another '1/3' of Jews eating the big on for the next shift (the '6 million' from the 'holocaust' is a critically important number from a spiritual standpoint which is why they made it illegal to question it in every country where they have enough influence.)  Thus, it's entirely possible that the average Israeli did get the 'actual vaccine'.  If it puts them 6-feet-under it's just proof that their messiah is near and their sages were right.

legendary
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February 23, 2021, 11:41:49 PM
i understand all the jew conspiracy
1. political lobby of removing antisemites (UK labour party hit for being antisemites more than any other prejudice)
2. israel getting more vaccine doses and faster than any country
3. international politics/defence/industry forming partnerships to help israel

yes it does seem that israel has alot of sway.
but here is the thing.
israel have happily taken the vaccine. so if your 'lizard kings' were the super power you fixate on. and if vaccines were so bad. they would not have done any vaccine deals.

and no dont run down these two rabbit holes
1. they were given saline
2. its future genocide done by the american elite.

sorry but no. israelis had the actual vaccine and now getting on with their lives
if they thought it was a killer. they would have given it to palestinians first
legendary
Activity: 4690
Merit: 1276
February 23, 2021, 08:55:16 PM
seems you cant even be creative and borrowing buzzwords.
'jewtube'??
you really are stuck in the fever cabin with conspiracy nuts.

the reason YOU think there is a debate about thinking youtube is owned by some weird lizard people group that own the world is because you have got yourself stuck in that mindset by your team

youtube is not 99% good because its the good of the elitist lizard kings you think are controling everything

youtube is 50:50 but they try to remove the extremist scams

that 1% of youtube that gets removed. is the scams
and thats where it becomes 99% of bitchutes content

yep youtube is 50:50 of the low level good/bad.. and should still be researched
but bitchute is 99% bad of the extreme variety and should ALWAYS be researched in greater detail

Anyone who outsources their censorship to the ADL is worthy of being called Jewtube.  If they outsource their censorship to NAMBLA I'd call the kiddie-diddler-tube.

I do still use Jewtube for cat vids, and my family watches other families dance.  It's fine to have it around; it's just not useful for real work.

EDIT: Because Jewtube derives value from gaining information about the viewer, and because they are giants and can negotiate for backbone (and/or operate it by proxy or otherwise), they do have smoother data delivery than the ankle-biter start-ups.  For cat vids or looping Dave and Ava for the kid over and over again, smooth delivery is just what you want.  I suspect that they scan the user's whole network and hide up-data in the network traffic, so if I wanted a 'sterile' environment I wouldn't use it at all (block it at the firewall.)  But I don't actually care that much most of the time.

The same uselessness goes for Google generally.  I've not done 'googled' any subject for months.  The whole first pages are filled with mainstream media spam.  Always!  It's just a useless platform for real work.

DuckDuckGo is hardly any better.  Their algorithms are not as well developed to filter out real results, but they are catching up fast.  I have to wonder if they get technical help from Joogle, or if they've simply become assimilated by now.

legendary
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February 23, 2021, 08:45:38 PM
seems you cant even be creative and borrowing buzzwords.
'jewtube'??
you really are stuck in the fever cabin with conspiracy nuts.

the reason YOU think there is a debate about thinking youtube is owned by some weird lizard people group that own the world, is because you got yourself stuck in that mindset by your team

youtube is not 99% good because 'its the good of the elitist lizard kings' you think are controling everything

youtube is 50:50 but they try to remove the extremist scams

that 1% of youtube that gets removed. is the scams/extreme idiot stuff
and thats where it becomes 99% of bitchutes content

yep youtube is 50:50 of the low level good/bad.. and should still be researched
but bitchute is 99% bad of the extreme variety and should ALWAYS be researched in greater detail
legendary
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Merit: 1276
February 23, 2021, 08:37:40 PM
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i guarantee you more lies are found on bitchute than youtube
your so called good and bad content.. should you put it into ratio
           good:bad
youtube: 50:50
bitchute:   1:99
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In our current 'post-truth' world, anything which supports the ruling party narrative is 'good', 'credible', 'reliable', etc.  Anything which does not is 'bad', 'non-credible', 'unreliable', etc.  That is the basic definition here in the new dark ages.

Jewtube is owned lock-stock-barrel by the ruling party.  The only reason why it is '99% good' on Jewtube rather than '100% good' is that some truth still slips through the algorithms.  Computer programs still have a lot of trouble with things such as nuance, humor, absurdity, etc...but then so do most vaccinated people who receive a 'proper' state approved education.

It's still fairly easy to game the Jewtube AI, but why bother?  It just gives the machine learning more data to grind on and increases it's learning curve.  And time spent trying to find what few nuggets remain on that platform just gives big-evil more PII data on the individual.

legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4766
February 23, 2021, 07:43:16 PM
bitchutes is not the platform of truth
bitchutes is the place where conspiracies go

vaccine hesitancy videos are not taken off youtube
fictional videos to cause hesitancy via lies are taken off
learn the difference

yep youtube removes lies and scams that are used for harm and dis information on mass

bitchutes is the site that is 99% scam so you should be more insulting about bitchutes or atleast be researching all videos hosted on there by default

i guarantee you more lies are found on bitchute than youtube
your so called good and bad content.. should you put it into ratio
           good:bad
youtube: 50:50
bitchute:   1:99

so just do some research. especially on bitchute content

yes people use the 50% bad youtube to advertise bitchute. but you now should have worked out bitchute is 99% bad
legendary
Activity: 4690
Merit: 1276
February 23, 2021, 07:31:05 PM
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your many faults are that you quote stuff from bitchutes and known conspiracy sites. try to stop quoting their opinion as fact.
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It's stated policy from the large corporate platforms now that the dissemination of any information which could contribute to 'vaccine hesitancy' is a violation of 'community guidelines'.  It does not matter whether the information is factually accurate or not.

As a result, smaller platforms such as Bitchute are catching material which used to be able to be found on Jewtube.  Much of it is worthwhile.  Much of it is not.  The difference between Bitchute and Jewtube is that the Bitchute has some worthwhile content.  Jewtube does not.

It's a relatively obvious  strategy to damage the non-aligned platforms by either straight-out spam, and also by deliberately poisoning the platform with bogus content.  The viewer needs to be discerning and in the case of the 'orange cap needle', I failed.  Again, my bad.  I don't mind fessing up to my mistakes because I don't make very many, and when I do, I learn from them.  I've been learning and watching for a quarter of a century now, and I pay a lot of attention to the shifts in strategy.

Most people are far to stupid to understand a situation where there is both good content and bad content on the same platform, much less why.  You have expressed this above.  That's why the strategy of 'poisoning the well' works and is used.

Bitchute, and nearly every other platform like it, will ultimately succumb to purchase and integration into the system owned by the Jewtube crowd just as happened to Jewtube.  It will probably happen faster since there is orders of magnitude more interest (and money) in 'controlling the narrative' now as we enter the 'great reset'.

legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4766
February 23, 2021, 06:37:18 PM
and the funny part is that tvbcof thinks it needs to take a team to learn anything..

sorry tvbcof. im a single person that thinks for myself. please try thinking for yourself more and stop repeating stuff from other people(bitchute/tash/badecker/conspiracy sites). as it makes you look like your part of a team

if you did do the research you pretend to do on other things over the last year. you would not need me to spoon feed you links.

i done you one favour. because i could tell you were about to fall down a rabbit hole.
but instead of trying to get others to do research for you. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH

your many faults are that you quote stuff from bitchutes and known conspiracy sites. try to stop quoting their opinion as fact. find the source info and then search other locations that contain factual data to see if it backs up or debunks the conspiracy theory

and yes i think your on team badecker
and it only took me 3 minutes to debunk your syringe conspiracy.. no time at all

maybe thats the thing. because i can debunk things in 3 minutes by knowing how to research. i find it annoying that you cant even be bothered with things that i think should only take 3 minutes to check out, where you are willing to argue your lazyness for hours rather than spend less time checking out the facts.
legendary
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Merit: 1276
February 23, 2021, 05:26:30 PM

Hey tvbcof, have you recovered from Tash's hack?

Just joking. I know you are a good guy.

But anyway I will give you a free advice. That dude Tash is a big moron and I recommend you to ignore him. I caught him before he doesn't even know what a virus is but just like you, I fell for his misinformation. Deep inside I wanted him to be right and that clouded my judgement.

Clarify please.  I don't know which hack you are talking about.

The 'fake shot' thing was something _I_ saw surfing Bitchute.  I unwisely just threw it up here without looking around a bit.  Usually I spend at least a little time trying to validate things, and sometimes a lot.  This was my bad, and I'm genuinely glad to have it be critiqued.

I do find it interesting that franky1 latched onto this thing and really spent some time on it.  With links to information and everything!  It was kind of like he somehow he (or his team) knew they had a winning hand for the first time in a while and went all in.

legendary
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February 23, 2021, 12:57:06 PM
As much as it pains me to say it, I cannot really disagree with this slimy little worm Harari's characterization of most people as 'hackable animals.'
 
  https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/dump-davos-1-data-colonialism-hackable-humans/

Enjoy your gene therapy because anyone who falls for crap like the above absolutely lacks the tools to avoid what's coming their way.  And fast.


Hey tvbcof, have you recovered from Tash's hack?

Just joking. I know you are a good guy.

But anyway I will give you a free advice. That dude Tash is a big moron and I recommend you to ignore him. I caught him before he doesn't even know what a virus is but just like you, I fell for his misinformation. Deep inside I wanted him to be right and that clouded my judgement.
legendary
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Merit: 2442
February 23, 2021, 03:25:45 AM
Kudos on the good research with references.  It's actually quite valuable to me to be proven wrong and/or be corrected in cases where I don't do enough due diligence.  I wish it would happen more often.  Merit points awarded.


Bill Gates talking about the "virus" a long time ago and instructs the CIA on ways of suppressing a gene religious fanatics commonly exhibit via a VACCINE using a type of flu as a reason to distribute the vaccine.
https://rumble.com/vcr8ot-bill-gates-talking-with-cia-about-gene-suppressing-vaccine.html

A fanatic
https://ourtube.co.uk/watch/UIawpstyY9TbHFv

Why in the world a goddamn computer geek would be so interested in vaccines, human DNA and shit?

This whole thing will blow up in their face.

[img_]https://i.imgur.com/D6Z7Y1b.png[/img]
https://rumble.com/vcr8ot-bill-gates-talking-with-cia-about-gene-suppressing-vaccine.html

He says the top individual is a religious fanatic, the other one is not. Now I realized, both front and mid parts of my right brain hurts when I think too hard. I think they didn't include me in their tests. Fucking freaks.

Most of forum's health experts will ignore this video I bet. Go on say it, that is a fake.

This idiotic vid has been a gift which keeps on giving for a decade or so that I remember.  It tells you for sure that an uploader is a drooling idiot or a deliberated deceptive and disruptive actor.  Usually the latter.

I'm willing to entertain the notion that this is 'bill gates', or that the discussion has anything to do with 'vaccines' or 'fundamentalism' if there is even one tiny shred of evidence that either is true.  There isn't, and there hasn't been for a decade.  Anyone can take a random lecture, put up some laughable OSD and voice-over with none-sense.  At least the perps should try to get a lecture which is somewhat relevant to the scam in terms of presentation material and try to sync just a little bit better.  This is a joke, but it is very instructive about just how gullible the average person is.

As much as it pains me to say it, I cannot really disagree with this slimy little worm Harari's characterization of most people as 'hackable animals.'
 
  https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/dump-davos-1-data-colonialism-hackable-humans/

Enjoy your gene therapy because anyone who falls for crap like the above absolutely lacks the tools to avoid what's coming their way.  And fast.

Sad fam. You fell for it too. That's why I recently said:


You see, it all got so wild & crazy we can't even distinguish sarcasm from serious statements no more; I'm awake, I am quite sure I am. Not so sure about the rest tho, who only trust "legit sources of information" which surely never tell you how and what to think!..

That's right... I do make mistakes too sometimes... It is usually when I am watching/reading the 3rd party sources. They could be misleading. But there is also the information, I mean the information you get directly from the source.

How can anybody ignore this statement for example?


https://twitter.com/wef/status/800965291215818752
https://archive.is/3eO3I

This statement is real. It is coming directly from the WEF's twitter handle. Am I blind? Am I retarded? Doesn't she say here that they are going to take our right to remain private?

What about this...


https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/1207681997612748801
https://archive.is/chaxb

How the fuck he could know that? Look at the date. It reads 19/Dec/2019. This is pre-covid19. How could people ignore this and pretend like it is not there?

These tweets are directly from the source. Not from a third party.
legendary
Activity: 4690
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February 23, 2021, 12:59:18 AM

Yet another 'leader' getting a fake 'vaccine' at a photoshoot.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/m9SyDnUAreyK/


so you want to cry that someone on bitchute says 'no no orange syringe'
.. but did you even dare bother to research if orange syringes are used..
..nope

so for one ill do it for you
https://www.nhsggc.org.uk/media/264228/covid19_staff_images_vaccine_combined_needles_and_syringes.pdf
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/admin/downloads/vaccine-administration-needle-length.pdf
oh look they use orange syringes too
21guage(green)
23guage(blue)
25guage(orange)
UK, america and australia say 22-25 are fine.
yep they prefer orange an blue.. not green

they actually found recently that if they were to use the 21guage needles and smaller syringes they can extract 6doses out of a prefered 5 diose vial.

have a pleasant day

oh and the bitchute videographer picked a facebook post from someone that
WAS a nurse
HAD worked in the ER many years ago

meaning she is not a currently practicing nurse this year and has no first hand experience of whats used for the covid vaccine..

Kudos on the good research with references.  It's actually quite valuable to me to be proven wrong and/or be corrected in cases where I don't do enough due diligence.  I wish it would happen more often.  Merit points awarded.

sr. member
Activity: 1190
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Pro financial, medical liberty
February 22, 2021, 02:42:04 PM
Bill Gates Why he switched from Microsoft to vaccines
The best investment ever made over a 20 to 1 return
legendary
Activity: 3906
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February 22, 2021, 10:44:48 AM
^^^ Do yourself a favor, and find a different religion. All your research is only in the direction of your religion. Wake up and see that there is a whole world out there that works way differently than the one you have adopted as your religion. You can find it in the many of the alternative sciences that work way better than the sciences you affirm.

Cool
legendary
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February 22, 2021, 10:33:35 AM
your research is not your gospel site

the real research is in the spanish blood test sampling to find out how much vit d deficiency there is
.. oooh i get it. you didnt do the research, you just took your gospel opinion and took it as your own.
..no surprise there

and remember while your posts flip flop to energise the immune system with vit D. your footer flop flips that people should buy things to dampen their immune system

so do yourself a favour. work out what direction you want peoples immune system to go. because the result of your current flopflops is to dampen their immune system and then overdose people on vit d to toxic levels to then suffer from other things while not protecting them from covid

maybe this is your influencers game. make people suffer from toxic sock of vitamin overdose. failed kidney failed liver. and also getting other ailment from failed immune system. just so you influencers can say loads of people died from toxic shock and infections.. basically pill mill snake oil salesmen on a genocide mission just so they can say 'more people died due to medications/supplements than covid'
well that would be their plan if they can find enough idiots to take those supplements in those dosages
im just glad there are not that many idiots at badeckers low level
legendary
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February 22, 2021, 10:17:05 AM
its not 82% fewer deaths

check and research your source
it was 82% of people tested had vit D deficiency.


then when you check if the death count remained flat(your opinion) in autumn/winter 2020.. you then find out that it did not. the deathcount went UP
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104640/deaths-as-a-result-of-complications-with-coronavirus-spain/


but with your supposed misinterpretted studies in august-october if your assumption was true you would see a chart that looks like

    ______________
  /
/
M A M J J A S O N D

but actual results are more like
                       /
                     /
    ________/
  /
/
M A M J J A S O N D

meaning more deaths after your supposed reports you mis-read


As usual. F-1 can't even read the research:
British legislator calls for widespread vitamin D rollout following 82% reduction in COVID-19 deaths in Spain

British legislator calls for widespread vitamin D rollout following 82% reduction in COVID-19 deaths in Spain
I'll give you this much. There are all kinds of at least, seeming, contradictory reports about this.

But I have to take back what I gave, because, vitamin D deficiency is a "prescribed" thing. After all, it's the FDA in the States that tells you the RDA for nutrients. This shows that they are recommending you into poor health by recommending insufficient amounts of vitamin D, so that they can treat you with their drugs and vaccines... both of which keep you sicker than if you had been recommended into vitamin D amounts that kept you healthy.

This begs the question? How many other nutrients are they under recommending, that would heal you so that 99% of people wouldn't even need doctors and hospitals any longer?

You still can't see your nose for your face, can you, franky1? Very few people ever need doctors and hospitals for medical issues, because if they had proper nutrition, they would never have medical issues.

Cool
legendary
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February 22, 2021, 10:04:16 AM
Btw, as of this writing, Bitcoin is dumping from its all-time high of near $59,000 USD. It's almost down to $50,000.

$60k was alot of bubble
seeing as bitcoin base value (mining cost) is ~$21k. . seems peoples 3x greed got the better of them. and now its correcting.

if you done some research then you too could have seen the correction was imminent
legendary
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Merit: 4766
February 22, 2021, 10:01:29 AM
its not 82% fewer deaths

check and research your source
it was 82% of people tested had vit D deficiency.


then when you check if the death count remained flat(your opinion) in autumn/winter 2020.. you then find out that it did not. the deathcount went UP
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104640/deaths-as-a-result-of-complications-with-coronavirus-spain/


but with your supposed misinterpretted studies in august-october if your assumption was true you would see a chart that looks like

    ______________
  /
/
M A M J J A S O N D

but actual results are more like
                       /
                     /
    ________/
  /
/
M A M J J A S O N D

meaning more deaths after your supposed reports you mis-read
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
February 22, 2021, 09:40:53 AM
badecker has it backwards as usual.

82% of people were vit D deficient. thats not the same as saying that vit D would cure them

put it this way i could say 80% of republican idiots are wife deficient. doesnt mean getting married makes them cured of being an idiot

..as for the cause of death

the SYMPTOMS leading up to death are things that can be linked to the trigger event of getting covid.
for instance someone that has tested positive of covid but symptomless but then has a car accident/gunshot and dies of injuries would not be on the covid death list
however someone with covid symptoms and those symptoms complicated a persons health to such severity they died. where by its clear that if they didnt have covid they would have survived. they would be classed as a covid death.

badecker does not understand that no one dies due to a cough. they die due to things like heart failure or hypoxia(oxygen deprivation) which is caused by pneumonia which was caused by covid.

badecker please understand that if someone is shot. the death certificate will show blood loss and heart failure as the symptoms leading to their death. and its obvious to see the cause was a gunshot. so although a gunshot death shows death cause as heart failure and bloodloss instead of final symptom listed as 'bullet' the diagnoses is still going to be death by gunshot

maybe try to understand how death certificates are filled out.. and stop taking your conspiracies inexperienced unresearched opinion.
actually do your research

You're going off in the wrong direction, again, franky1.

Nobody can cure dead people... but killers suggest that the cure is complete in death.

If you feed the population high amounts of vitamin D, as they did in Spain, the results are 82% fewer deaths, as they were in Spain.

Regarding cures, guess what 82% fewer deaths means? It means that you have a whole lot more chance of curing and time to cure these living people from their illnesses, right?

So, spit it out. Where are you? Are you a person who wants people to live so that they have a chance to be cured? Or don't you care if they live or die, as long as you can talk silliness in the forum?

Btw, as of this writing, Bitcoin is dumping from its all-time high of near $59,000 USD. It's almost down to $50,000.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4766
February 22, 2021, 09:27:46 AM

Yet another 'leader' getting a fake 'vaccine' at a photoshoot.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/m9SyDnUAreyK/


so you want to cry that someone on bitchute says 'no no orange syringe'
.. but did you even dare bother to research if orange syringes are used..
..nope

so for one ill do it for you
https://www.nhsggc.org.uk/media/264228/covid19_staff_images_vaccine_combined_needles_and_syringes.pdf
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/admin/downloads/vaccine-administration-needle-length.pdf
oh look they use orange syringes too
21guage(green)
23guage(blue)
25guage(orange)
UK, america and australia say 22-25 are fine.
yep they prefer orange an blue.. not green

they actually found recently that if they were to use the 21guage needles and smaller syringes they can extract 6doses out of a prefered 5 diose vial.

have a pleasant day

oh and the bitchute videographer picked a facebook post from someone that
WAS a nurse
HAD worked in the ER many years ago

meaning she is not a currently practicing nurse this year and has no first hand experience of whats used for the covid vaccine..
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