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Topic: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? - page 74. (Read 20317 times)

jr. member
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February 12, 2021, 12:16:06 PM
So far there has not been a single report in my country that says that the vaccine that has been distributed to several parties has side effects on the recipient. So for now I trust the vaccines given by the government, especially the president has also been vaccinated and they say that the vaccine received by the president will also be distributed to the public.
sr. member
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Pro financial, medical liberty
February 12, 2021, 10:13:47 AM
^^^ People are of the opinion only when bullets fly they are in the middle of a war.

Done a bit of online shopping yesterday and had a look for "CDL / CDS Chlorine Dioxide Solution 0.3%". Plenty available but did not order any as i have no need. All it is doing is to emergency adjust body's chemical imbalance. I eat sensible this days, wear no mask and adjusted without issues to the new frequencies. In a month or so also move to a place with less junk and more trees.
Still catch as much sun as possible, even in real cold days.


  Must watch video
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny Explains How the Depopulation COVID Vaccines Will Start Working In 3-6 Months!
https://beforeitsnews.com/health/2021/02/dr-sherri-tenpenny-explains-how-the-depopulation-covid-vaccines-will-start-working-in-3-6-months-must-video-3037796.html
Bill Gates Says Next Pandemic “WILL” Get Attention, as Scientists Warn of Millions Dead Due to Vaccine Flaw
legendary
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February 09, 2021, 04:44:43 PM
In my opinion we are supposed to believe as there is no anything better right now. Sure they are not perfect and it is not working for every variety of covid-19 but we have to start from somewhere, even though it is not helping a lot it is going to be motivation for people to continue fighting. Imagine only what it would mean for our medicine workers and doctors. They would finally get some rest after more than 1 year.


What if I told you...


Malaria Cure Documented by Red Cross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CWlInztx1g

After watching these videos, and after checking into it, Medical people, and frank1 type trolls, fall into one of two categories. Either they are against healing people, or they can't think well enough to even be in the medical field.

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sr. member
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Pro financial, medical liberty
February 09, 2021, 12:00:38 PM
In my opinion we are supposed to believe as there is no anything better right now. Sure they are not perfect and it is not working for every variety of covid-19 but we have to start from somewhere, even though it is not helping a lot it is going to be motivation for people to continue fighting. Imagine only what it would mean for our medicine workers and doctors. They would finally get some rest after more than 1 year.


What if I told you...


Malaria Cure Documented by Red Cross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CWlInztx1g
legendary
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February 09, 2021, 11:50:39 AM
^^^ Look at my signature area.

The simple thing is adding "mega-doses" of vitamin-D to your diet. Check with your nutrition practitioner.

Include about 5 or 6 grams of vitamin C + zinc (excess V-C will pass, naturally) to your diet. Do this, and you will have a better chance of NOT getting Covid, than you would have of winning the a million-entry raffle.

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full member
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February 09, 2021, 11:42:53 AM
In my opinion we are supposed to believe as there is no anything better right now. Sure they are not perfect and it is not working for every variety of covid-19 but we have to start from somewhere, even though it is not helping a lot it is going to be motivation for people to continue fighting. Imagine only what it would mean for our medicine workers and doctors. They would finally get some rest after more than 1 year.
legendary
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February 09, 2021, 10:56:54 AM
^^^ Peoples' fear of death is depopulating the world.     Cool
sr. member
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Pro financial, medical liberty
February 09, 2021, 09:24:43 AM
Vaccined die faster than expected, huge spike of deaths in care home after vaccinations started. One way to fix the pension payment crisis.
https://www.rescuepost.com/files/uk-medical-freedom-alliance-letter.pdf
legendary
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February 08, 2021, 09:42:26 AM

It has something to do with the logistics as well. The vaccine from Pfizer/BioNTech needs to be stored at minus 70 degrees and not too many facilities in India have the capability to do so. The vaccine from AstraZeneca/Oxford on the other hand can be stored using normal refrigeration. The same goes for the versions from Novavax and J&J. Apart from the vaccines approved internationally, India is also using one of the indigenously developed vaccines as well (Covaxin from Bharat Biotech). Currently around 80% to 90% of the shots being administered are Covishied (AstraZeneca/Oxford) and the remainder is of Covaxin. And till Saturday, the cumulative number of individuals who have received at least one dose of the vaccine stood at 5,803,617 (which is around 0.4% of the population).
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India was relatively clear that Pfizer wasn't inclined to do the kinds of tests the Indian govt wanted (on India populations...every population has prevailing genotype issues, common regional infective threats, nation-wide nutrition and sanitation profiles, etc.)  If a government is doing their job right, they would be requiring such diligence.  That doesn't mean it was the whole story behind the rejection of course.

(Note that rotavirus vaccine works poorly in Indian babies because the mother's milk is particularly potent in that country.  The technocratic solution:  Don't breastfeed so that this one particular vaccine can work...and Dr. Paul Offit can get his royalties.)

AstraZeneca and J&J work by inserting custom DNA into the cell nucleus using viruses and letting the natural processes of the cell produce mRNA programmed to make designer proteins.  I'd want to see decades of real-world observations before taking such a thing.  Also, and very importantly, I'd want an independent analysis (and with adversarial independence) of every bit of genetics in every batch of 'vaccine'.  To say I don't trust J&J, who sold AIDS tainted blood products to other nations so they didn't have to dump it, just got found guilty of making carcinogenic baby powder, etc) is a VAST understatement.

Covaxin is plain old inactivated virus.  Even given that all such efforts (coronavirus vaccines) over the past 20 years killed the lab animals in startling numbers, I would still consider it the 'safest', and it looks to me as though all countries will have a small number of 'old school' vaccines.  I suspect for their 'elite' to use and still get their 'immunity passports' in case they are not elite enough to buy a private jet.

Noravax is a 'subunit' vaccine.  This is like inactivate, but it just makes antigen parts in the lab/factory (rather than re-programming one's own cells.)  This technology seems to me like it might hold promise for safer vaccines...which is all most of us so-called 'anti-vaxxers' really want.

legendary
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February 08, 2021, 06:53:40 AM
I thought India is going for the Astra Zeneca vaccine because its the cheapest to produce. With only 2 USD per shot you could get 10 of these for 1 Pfizer Biontech vaccine. At the moment we read about all these different vaccines out there but there is no real comparisons between them. With the Russian one and the new one from Johnson & Johnson we are up to 5 different types of vaccine now.

It has something to do with the logistics as well. The vaccine from Pfizer/BioNTech needs to be stored at minus 70 degrees and not too many facilities in India have the capability to do so. The vaccine from AstraZeneca/Oxford on the other hand can be stored using normal refrigeration. The same goes for the versions from Novavax and J&J. Apart from the vaccines approved internationally, India is also using one of the indigenously developed vaccines as well (Covaxin from Bharat Biotech). Currently around 80% to 90% of the shots being administered are Covishied (AstraZeneca/Oxford) and the remainder is of Covaxin. And till Saturday, the cumulative number of individuals who have received at least one dose of the vaccine stood at 5,803,617 (which is around 0.4% of the population).

Another factor to note here is that India hasn't yet signed a contract with Pfizer/BioNTech. They have a contract with AstraZeneca/Oxford to supply 1 billion doses of the vaccine, and another with NovaVax for the same amount. There is a smaller contract with the Gamaleya Research Institute of Epidemiology and Microbiology to supply 200 million doses. The Indian government hasn't signed an agreement with any of the vaccine providers other than these three.
sr. member
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February 08, 2021, 06:42:15 AM

The madness continues, more deaths from the termination project
https://odysee.com/@SixthSense-Truth-Search-Labs:0/55-Now-Dead-in-Sweden-Vaccine-Program:c
legendary
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February 08, 2021, 03:36:23 AM
Of course I trust the Covid vaccine. I trust that it is flawed, and intentionally made dangerous... like over 50% of Americans.


More than half of Americans don’t want COVID-19 vaccine, survey shows



The mainstream media makes COVID-19 vaccines sound like a rousing success with everyone clamoring to get in line, but a new survey shows that more than half of Americans plan to delay getting the vaccine or even refuse to get it altogether. In fact, just 41 percent of those who participated in the Kaiser Family Foundation’s tracking project said they were eager to get the shot as soon as possible.

Among those who are not eager to get the vaccine, 31 percent say they’d rather wait to see more results of the vaccines, 13 percent said they are certain they will not get the shot, and 7 percent said they would only get the shot if they were absolutely required to do so for school, work or other activities.

Among the most reluctant groups to get vaccinated were Republicans, adults in rural areas, lower-income households and those from black and Hispanic backgrounds. Black and Hispanic adults were significantly more likely than white adults to say they would rather wait to see how the vaccine goes for others before getting it themselves at 43 and 37 percent versus 26 percent. Meanwhile, 43 percent of young adults aged 18 to 29 said they would like to “wait and see.”

Those who are more willing to get the vaccine are people aged 65 and older, Democrats, and people who have serious health conditions.

When it comes to political parties, 64% of Democrats said they have already been vaccinated or would like to get their shot as quickly as possible; just 32% of Republicans said the same, with a quarter definitely refusing the vaccine. Vaccine enthusiasm rose for Democrats and Independents over a previous poll in December, but it did not shift among Republicans.

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Americans are especially skeptical of rushed COVID-19 vaccines


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February 07, 2021, 09:57:24 PM
I don't think it's entirely believable because there's so much controversy and controversy that people are responding to it even though my country's President has been the first recipient. There's a lot of rumors circulating in many matters of religion that some people shouldn't use, some say it's a political game and many more, and those things are making me believe in this vaccine, and I pray that the pandemic will soon be over and back to normal again
legendary
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February 07, 2021, 06:03:08 PM

I thought India is going for the Astra Zeneca vaccine because its the cheapest to produce. With only 2 USD per shot you could get 10 of these for 1 Pfizer Biontech vaccine. At the moment we read about all these different vaccines out there but there is no real comparisons between them. With the Russian one and the new one from Johnson & Johnson we are up to 5 different types of vaccine now.

Lots and lots of companies who had new drug or 'platform' that they wanted to test out for free (govt money, govt tracking, and legal indemnity) jumped on the band-wagon with 'covid-19'.  Obviously most had been in development for a while, and some of them are claiming that they got an infusing of extra money in the middle of 2019 to get ready.  Got it from the expected players (Gates Foundation, GAVI, etc.)

I follow this where they are tracking about 80 of these things:  https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/

'Covid-19' is exactly the kind of problems that the 'vaccine' makers love to 'resolve'.  It's very easy to solve a problem which doesn't exist.  On top of that, there was gigantic amount of money and political pressure to build the non-problem into a scary monster in order to accomplish various things (economic devastation as a cover for shadow banking system problems, Gates' ID2020 digital identification program, etc) and a roadmap for having the monster disappear anyway (to be replaced by a series of 'waves' and 'strains' and what-not giving an additional benefit of a non-stop market for follow-on 'vaccines' as well as an easy out when the 'vaccines' don't seem to do shit for the 'disease.')

Many people have been scammed, and we're just getting started.

hero member
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February 07, 2021, 03:27:00 PM

I thought India is going for the Astra Zeneca vaccine because its the cheapest to produce. With only 2 USD per shot you could get 10 of these for 1 Pfizer Biontech vaccine. At the moment we read about all these different vaccines out there but there is no real comparisons between them. With the Russian one and the new one from Johnson & Johnson we are up to 5 different types of vaccine now.
sr. member
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legendary
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February 07, 2021, 06:25:40 AM
in the UK there is a high % of uptake of the vaccine in healthcare workers (way above 90%)
the main healthcare resistance concern is that the frail and elderly should get it first as they are in need and healthcare workers can just get it later.

the non-healthcare groups that seem to be resistant are the people of non-white ethnicity.
but even this is a small percentage of resistance in the uk(70-90% still taking the vaccine)
but this 10-30% resistance is due mainly from the antivax trolls targetting the 'BAME'(black,asian.mixed ethnic) community, by trolls saying that nutrition and profit making supplements and herbs are a cure/alternative whilst saying vaccines are evil.

as for gyft thinking too simply that the younger generations are automatically immune or safe. not so simple.. viral load is an important factor. high viral load=more sick. (more of a infection battle to fight.)
so limit disrespecting others personal space is still advised, even for the young.
(kids dont die as much but they are cesspits of infection and passing infection)
(luckily most kids have parents that keep kids in bed/home if they are sick)

anyway. over the next 6month-Xyears there are 4 choices:
1. viral immunity(high load)(-10 franky score)
     --- lick faces, hug strangers and just not care about health risks to you while disrespecting space
     --- increasing risk of health consequences to others while you disrespect space.
      -- hope to have under 85% risk of getting sick, but no guarantee
      -- hope to have under 4% risk of death, but no guarantee
2. viral immunity(low load)(-5 franky score)
    ++-respect personal space, limit time near people. but still have risk
     +--get low dose/low viral load infection from the virus in the lung(risk to lung health)
      -- hard to predict/calculate how much your getting when you socialise respecting personal space
      -- hope to have under 20% risk of getting sick, but no guarantee
      -- hope to have under 1% risk of death, but no guarantee
3. vaccine immunity(+10 franky score)
      ++ by prescribed inoculation in the arm(no lung damage risk)
      ++ avoid the 50%+ mild symptoms of covid that last 5-14 days
      -+  but have a under 10% of mild adverse reaction in the arm that last 2 days
      ++ avoid the 15% severe symptoms of covid
      -+  but have the under 1% risk severe adverse reaction
      ++ avoid the 1-4% covid death
      ++ but have the 0.001% risk of vaccine caused death
4. isolate for XX time(years)(-6 franky score)
      -- hope eventually the virus will eventually phase itself out
      -- keep waiting
      -- keep waiting

playing the % odds of risk. 3 is still best
legendary
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legendary
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February 07, 2021, 04:09:35 AM
To all you arguing about the vaccine and referring to healthcare workers  - https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-31/healthcare-workers-refuse-covid-19-vaccine-access

Long story short, if you're someone that has a high chance of dying from COVID, aka fat, disgustingly overweight, heart problems, so on, you should get the vaccine. If you're young and healthy, the vaccine isn't going to do you much good. That's probably why healthcare workers aren't all getting vaccinated.

A healthcare worker on the frontlines that's been exposing themselves to COVID and has been fine thus far is probably thinking that they don't need the vaccine. It's hard to convince them that they do because the point of a young person taking the vaccine is not to help themselves, but to ensure that young person doesn't spread the virus around.

So how do you make the case that a young healthy person should take the vaccine when clinical trials haven't examined long term effects? Kinda tough to. I don't think you're anti-vax if you refuse getting the COVID vaccine.
legendary
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February 06, 2021, 10:26:44 PM
This is the equivalent of watching two hobos trying to school each other in astrophysics.

And a gene (nutildah) not being able to understand them.    Cool
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