Topic: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? - page 75. (Read 20317 times)

They did their best and made vaccines with good intentions but as we already have more than 50% herd immunity, corona is going away even without vaccines. I would not risk taking one if I already have the antibodies.

vaccines are not immune supressers
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More doctors are speaking out about the harms of new COVID-19 vaccines. Cardiothoracic surgeon, Dr. Hooman Noorchashm, M.D., Ph.D. is one of them. Dr. Noorchashm says that the covid-19 vaccines will almost certainly cause an antigen-specific immune response; however, if viral antigens are present in the tissues of recipients at the time of vaccination, the vaccine-augmented immune response will turn the immune system against those tissues, causing inflammation that can lead to blood clot formation. This destructive auto-immune effect could do significant damage to endothelial cells of elderly patients who already suffer from cardiovascular disease. There have already been numerous reports of unexplained cardiovascular fatalities following covid-19 vaccination across Norway, Germany, the UK, Gibraltar and the United States.

Vaccine causes recently-infected persons to experience autoimmune vascular damage

Dr. Noorchashm's findings are consistent with the research findings of Dr. J. Patrick Whelan, M.D., Ph.D., who shared similar concerns with the FDA in early December of 2020. Whelan warned that a recently-infected patient who is subject to covid-19 vaccination is likely to suffer from autoimmune attacks along the ACE-2 receptors present in the heart, and in the microvasculature of the brain, liver and kidney. The risk is doubled because two shots are required.

It is a well documented fact that SARS-CoV-2, the Wuhan coronavirus, readily targets humans through the vascular endothelium. The virus is known to enter into endothelial cells through the ACE-2 receptor on the endothelium. Because of this unique gain-of-function, one of the medical emergencies that may occur in covid-19 patients is thromboembolic complications (formation of a blood clot inside a blood vessel). If viral antigens are present in the endothelial lining of blood vessels, then the vaccine will cause an antigen-specific immune response that attacks those precious tissues, potentially causing cardiovascular events. The research warns that the vaccine is "almost certain to do damage to the vascular endothelium," especially in the elderly. This vaccine-induced endothelial inflammation is "certain to cause blood clot formation with the potential for major thromboembolic complications in a subset of such patients," he warns.

Dr. Noorchashm concludes, "Therefore, it is my respectful request that FDA, in collaboration with Pfizer and Moderna, immediately and at the very minimum, institute clear recommendations to clinicians that they delay immunization in any recently convalescent patients, as well as any known symptomatic or asymptomatic carriers — and to actively screen as many patients with high cardiovascular risk as is reasonably possible, in order to detect the presence of SARS-CoV-2, prior to vaccinating them."

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do you believe DNA passes through the NUCLEUS MEMBRANE
heck ill make it completely simple. dont quote anything above or distract yourself with grammar games of the above

quote one of these:
tvbcof believes DNA passes through the NUCLEUS MEMBRANE
[X] yes             [  ]no
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tvbcof

3rd time.. because you are being soo very obtuse

simple answer
the "package" the "vector" you keep flip flopping
describe it!!

again flip flop
you skip to the already in 'the subjects nucleus'
just to pretend you mean DNA doesnt pass
then you say the vaccines 'dna'+package enters the cell but then only the 'package' enters the subjects nucleus

now your saying dna doesnt pass through into the nucleus..
because now your saying 'package'

so please continue defining  the 'package'

Do these doctors come to your defense?

Are BADecker and Tash who you're talking about?

Both of my statements are compatible and identical.

Neither of your statements are correct:

1) adenovirus is a DNA virus.  It's genome is DNA.  RNA has nothing to do with things.

2) I said 'alongside' (not '+') as in the adenovirus DNA+designer DNA packages lives as a plasmid ALONGSIDE the subjects own chromosomal DNA inside of the cell nucleus.   The 'chromosomal DNA' does not pass through anything.  It is always in the nucleus.  The adenoviruse DNA+designer DNA package 'transfects' the cell and brings the new DNA package into the nucleus.

Ever notice that the so-called 'doctors' on this forum don't come to your defense franky1?  You know why?  It's because your are wrong and you are an embarrassment.  I'm sure they don't like it that you are getting your ass kicked, but there is not much they can do.

This is the equivalent of watching two hobos trying to school each other in astrophysics.

lets just clear up your own confusion..
which version of your opinion is i, which YOU believe goes into the nucleus of the person getting the vaccine
or

tell me for once. be straight to the point. be truly deep and meaningful about your reply. so deep that you are willing to stand by it from now on

is it the vector(mrna)
or
"whole plasmid+chromosone DNA". which you think passes through the nucleus membrane wall

take a few minutes to truly vet your own flip flop opinions. and pick the one that you will from now on decide is your view

mRNA or DNA passes through the nucleus membrane

incase you forgot that YOU said its about programming the ribosome.
incase you didnt realise that RNA is the firmware and mrna is just a document file.

so everytime you mention reprogramming. or DNA transfers into nucleus. or reprogram ribosome you are continually been saying the same nonsense.

(^debunked it is not titled DNA there. it actually says non replicating viral vectors)

(^debunked.. the slice/vector means DNA doesnt go in. the 'vector' that does go in is mRNA.. mRNA can transverse the nucleus membrane. but not dna)

(^debunked. again your saying the DNA does go into the the nucleus. but look 1 quote up. your saying jsut the vector goes in.. your the confused flip flopper)