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speaking of the "Tatars of the Crimea" rather than the "Crimean Tatars", thus rhetorically stripping them of the status of the native people of the Crimea.
I have two other "lols".

First, both "Tatars of the Crimea" and "Crimean Tatars" are synonyms: "Кpымcкиe тaтapы".
Second. Native people? If we are to talk about the native population of Crimea, we should talk about Scythians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians), as well as Tauris, Sarmatians, Alans, Bulgars, Greeks, Goths, Khazars, Pechenegs, Cumans, Italians, Circassians, Littleasian Turks.
Tatars in Crimea hail back to XI-XII century
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If I am not mistaken, flag below with the inscription "Oбpaз" (literally "Cheek", which also means "Honor" in some Slavic languages) belongs to Serbian far right wing group which is banned in Serbia. This may be their Russian branch, though.

I think that they are Serbs. A small number of Serbs were present in Crimea last month, to support the pro-Russian protesters. They might have just crossed over to Donetsk. But the number is very small, at the most a dozen.
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Should we be surprised that anti-Semitic, anti-Roma and other racist incidents can take place in South-Eastern Ukraine where (pro-)Russian right-wing extremists are engaged in subversive activities against the democratic Ukrainian state? Should we be surprised that there are fears that the Russian occupation forces are presumably thinking of deporting the Crimean Tatars from the Crimea? Russian officials are already modifying their narrative speaking of the "Tatars of the Crimea" rather than the "Crimean Tatars", thus rhetorically stripping them of the status of the native people of the Crimea. Russian right-wing extremists based in this region are fully supporting the idea of deportation:



Lols , ROMA people.
There is no such thing . It's an invented term from the last century and used only in the last few decades. Not even the population that some address like that have a clue about it.

Everyone should call them with their real name or just use
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The flag below belongs to the Russian right-wing extremist organisation "Russian Image" the members of which killed, in 2009, Stanislav Markelov and Anastasia Baburova. Photo taken in Donetsk in February 2012

If I am not mistaken, flag below with the inscription "Oбpaз" (literally "Cheek", which also means "Honor" in some Slavic languages) belongs to Serbian far right wing group which is banned in Serbia. This may be their Russian branch, though:

http://www.obraz.rs/
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The new rule for obtaining Russian citizenship might be good for people in South-Eastern Ukraine and Baltics (especially for the Latvian "niggers" - people borne and living in Latvia, but being denied Latvian citizenship and human rights).

This will be misused by the 80 million unwashed Muslims of Central Asia and Azerbaijan. Just wait and see. The migration from countries such as Uzbekistan and Tajikistan are going to rise steeply.
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Right. Retracting my truce on Klichko. I wonder who does thinking for him, but apparently, he is not involved in the process.

During his meeting with US Vice President Joseph Baiden, he appealed to the US to introduce new and new and more stringent sanctions against Russia from US and EU side. Of course, after all US decides for EU which sanctions it should impose, while this appeal is completely in line with US' own twitchings.

He also supported the anti-terrorist actions of Ukraine in its Eastern region and that USA' military-personnel and military-hardware aid to Ukraine is invaluable.

http://ria.ru/world/20140422/1004946091.html
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Russian and pro-Russian right-wing terrorists spreading fear and hate in Ukraine

Yesterday, I commented on the recent scandal involving the distribution of anti-Semitic flyers in Donetsk. As it often happens with comments to the media, not everything that I said to The Verge's journalist appeared in the final piece - which is fair enough by me - but I would like to briefly discuss one point which I found important but which was missed out in the above-mentioned article.

Amar Toor asked me whether I was surprised at the news about the anti-Semitic flyers in Donetsk. I replied that - although the authenticity of the flyers cannot be either proven or dismissed - I was not surprised, because anti-Semitic and racist incidents involving the (pro-)Russian insurgents and terrorists in South-Eastern Ukraine had happened before.

For example, here's a hand-made poster which appeared in Luhansk during the unrest:


Excerpt: "Jew Shuster [Savik Shuster, Kyiv-based TV presenter] will explain why Ukrainians must defend the interests of Jew [Prime Minister Arseniy] Yatsenyuk and Jewish oligarchs. Why Slavs must kill each other."

And demotivators such as this were widely distributed by South-East Ukrainian pro-Russian activists in the Internet:

"Ukrainian nationalists"

It was also revealed in January 2013, that the fan page of the Berkut special forces (the main security pillar of Viktor Yanukovych's authoritarian regime) on Facebook was full of homophobic, racist and anti-Semitic content. (Much of this content is still available; it is worth checking to see the seemingly non-conflicting mixture of racist, anti-Semitic, Nazi, Russian, Soviet and Stalinist propaganda.)


There is also a great degree of acceptance of anti-Semitism in Russia itself. For example, one Russian state TV host suggested - during an interview with fascist Aleksandr Prokhanov - that Jews had brought on Holocaust on themselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EXHCdVpyx7Q

It is obviously not my intention to associate all the (pro-)Russian insurgents in South-Eastern Ukraine with anti-Semites, racists and fascism. However, while I cannot identify the size of the extreme right element of the pro-Russian movement in Ukraine, it does exist and does function as a point of convergence between some pro-Russian activists in South-Eastern Ukraine and the extreme right government in Moscow, as well as Russian fascist organisations.

The flags of the "Donetsk Republic" co-exist with the racist banner carrying an Italian Fascist motto "Many enemies, much honour" (Molti nemici, molto onore). February 2014.




Activists of the "Donetsk Republic" right-wing extremist group.


The "Donetsk Republican" flags are side by side with the black-and-yellow flags of the Eurasianist movement headed by Russian fascist Aleksandr Dugin. April 2014.

And this video (see below) was shot recently in Donetsk. It features a young man claiming to have established contacts with the fascist Russian National Unity organization and concluding his speech with the slogan "Glory to Russia" and a Nazi salute: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yD8goJMLUhs

It is important to note that even this video shows that while many people cheer the Russian Nazi salute, there are also voices of dissent. But this video also reveals the involvement of the Russian extreme right in the current developments in South-Eastern Ukraine, and this involvement is not limited to fascist Aleksandr Dugin who personally instructed pro-Russian terrorists. Here are some pictures taken in the Donetsk region prior to the Euromaidan protests, which - in addition to other evidence - prove that Russian fascist organisations have been heavily infiltrating and instigating pro-Russian separatist movements in South-Eastern Ukraine for quite some time already.


The flag below belongs to the Russian right-wing extremist organisation "Russian Image" the members of which killed, in 2009, Stanislav Markelov and Anastasia Baburova. Photo taken in Donetsk in February 2012


Here and below: Russian black-yellow-and-white "imperial" flags, Eurasianist black flags with a yellow "Star of chaos", "Donetsk Republican" flags, Russian flags. Photos taken in early November 2013





Just a few days ago, Aleksandr Ivanov-Sukharevsky, leader of the Russian neo-Nazi Peoples National Party, addressed the (pro-)Russian right-wing terrorists in South-Eastern Ukraine giving them their full support: http://vimeo.com/92128059

Should we be surprised that anti-Semitic, anti-Roma and other racist incidents can take place in South-Eastern Ukraine where (pro-)Russian right-wing extremists are engaged in subversive activities against the democratic Ukrainian state? Should we be surprised that there are fears that the Russian occupation forces are presumably thinking of deporting the Crimean Tatars from the Crimea? Russian officials are already modifying their narrative speaking of the "Tatars of the Crimea" rather than the "Crimean Tatars", thus rhetorically stripping them of the status of the native people of the Crimea. Russian right-wing extremists based in this region are fully supporting the idea of deportation:

The anti-Crimean Tatar poster distributed in the social media websites of Russian fascists: "Deportation is not a crime. Republic 88 on the disadvantage of the Crimean Tatar presence on the peninsula".

The anti-Semitic flyers in Donetsk may or may not be a hoax, but - honestly - should we be surprised by all these racist incidents in the Ukrainian territories either occupied by the Russians or destabilised by the (pro-)Russian insurgents and terrorists? No, we should not.

http://anton-shekhovtsov.blogspot.com/2014/04/russian-and-pro-russian-right-wing.html



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The new rule for obtaining Russian citizenship might be good for people in South-Eastern Ukraine and Baltics (especially for the Latvian "niggers" - people borne and living in Latvia, but being denied Latvian citizenship and human rights).

http://rt.com/politics/russian-citizenship-ancestors-language-764/
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Propaganda, Disinformation, and Dirty Tricks: The Resurgence of Russian Political Warfare

 The Russian invasion and annexation of Crimea, a part of Ukraine, has renewed the interest in Russia’s extensive political warfare activities. In Crimea, Eastern Ukraine, and other states of the former Soviet Union, Russian influence operations have been aggressively increased and targeted at Russian-speaking populations, who often have little other access to news and information and, therefore, are easy targets for Russian propaganda. Russian efforts hark back to the ideological battles and active measures of the Cold War and are aimed at audiences and policymakers here in the United States as well. For home audiences, Russian propaganda persistently shows strong strains of anti-Americanism. Join us as our panel of experts analyzes this threat and how the United States can best counter it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xphMkoBIms0
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Victoria Nuland's public statement of 5 billion usd investment into Ukraine is prove of CIA involvement.

Out of that hardly 1% reached the protesters, for the purchase of rifles and petrol bombs. The remaining went to bribing the oligarchs, such as Tymoshenko, Akhmetov and Ihor Kolomoyskyi.

Just like the 34mld $ that Russia "helped" Ukraine with the gas prices. Only that the pro-Russian red commies received the rifles and equipment as a bonus.
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