Topic: Draftking fined $19k for a player's $0 win after 20,000 spins on a slot game - page 5. (Read 888 times)
September 04, 2024, 04:59:25 PM
LOL the guy was really crazy to bet again and again while it was not a provably fair game
September 04, 2024, 04:35:27 PM
This is a crazy story. I’m glad it was documented and they took action. It makes you wonder how many times things like this happen and nobody learns the truth. This is why it is so important to use a reputable service. If this sort of thing can happen to a company this large, surely it happens elsewhere. Make sure your casino would be one that would make this right.
September 04, 2024, 04:31:27 PM
Meanwhile after Draftking has refunded player who were affected a total of $23,909, the state gamming regulators slammed a fine of $19,000 to Draftking and another $3,500 to the game provider.
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Meanwhile my personal question is, are slot games really provably fair? If odds can be set to zero, and no one be able to win, is it not possible that some casinos might be using this means or method to cheat slot players off their hard earned money?
wasnt set properly. One of the main reasons on why i dont really like on making myself spending too much when it comes to slot games just because of these kind of probabilities on which i do really hate to deal on
with longer runs. They do have always the edge and also i dont have some good experience with slots or not even to taste some good wins.
September 04, 2024, 04:27:51 PM
Meanwhile my personal question is, are slot games really provably fair? If odds can be set to zero, and no one be able to win, is it not possible that some casinos might be using this means or method to cheat slot players off their hard earned money?
Good guess, it's very much possible infact I think the drafting won't have even accepted the fact that there was a bug if the event hadn't gotten to a great level and number of players who only got fortunate to get paid back because they had reported the issue already. This kind of incidents has always been on ground but due to the fact that people can not speak out except for reason obvious as this and the number of victims it wouldn't have been possible to get the casino to pay back.
They were fair enough to even refund the players their money before they raised voice, and the prosecutor is also right for billing both them and the game provider to pay some fine in order for them to line up how to manage and reduce the damage they will cause to gamblers afterward.
September 04, 2024, 04:15:11 PM
Casinos like draftking always have an edge but with that having no wins from its players sounds crazy. It seems that they have adjusted the chances of winning to 0%.
Or if not, then it's all about how buggy the slot machines are. But if they refunded the losses of the players, much better.
There should be fairness on gambling games but we all know about that, the house always wins regardless of what game we play.
Or if not, then it's all about how buggy the slot machines are. But if they refunded the losses of the players, much better.
There should be fairness on gambling games but we all know about that, the house always wins regardless of what game we play.
September 04, 2024, 01:24:09 PM
This is the first time to read about bugs in slot games, a game provider making refunds, and lastly regulators slamming a fine on the game providers. I used those think that game providers are untouchable. Nevertheless the right thing was done and that it all that matters.
Meanwhile my personal question is, are slot games really provably fair? If odds can be set to zero, and no one be able to win, is it not possible that some casinos might be using this means or method to cheat slot players off their hard earned money?
As someone who has played a couple of slot games, I can tell you that there are a lot games that are provably fair and there are another that are not. It depends on the reputation of the provider as well as the casino. Therefore it is not all new casinos that one should play at. Stick to the oldies that have built a good reputation and trust. They'll always be fair and strive to do what's right. 
September 04, 2024, 11:46:53 AM
For a gambler to make 20000 spins in a slot game simply means he has an unlimited bankroll because tell me why and how someone can sit down to make insanely multiple trials like this, it would take hours and hours of constant trials to hit that number of spins. The casino on the other hand is rigged cause there's no excuse for this, no matter how unlucky a gambler is, in 20000 spins there should be a high chance of winning at least 10 to 50 spins. This should be a lesson to every gambler out there, playing this games without control can cause a lot of damage
I think you should cut that imagination dude 😆.From what am thinking, I see that the gambler believes that he can achieve a good winning through the 20,000 spin. Well the house can't lose much because they are the ones making the odds, which means they already know what they are doing.
Honestly I don't see any reason why the gambler couldn't win a round in 20,000 spins, wells it's not a new thing in the world of gamble, because I have seen a gambler lose 10 rounds without winning any one. But 20,000 spins is much, the gambler can not sit down and watch all those spins by himself, unless he set the games on auto spin.
September 04, 2024, 11:11:56 AM
What I found amusing to this story is the level of dumbness is so high for those gambler that keep trying to spin on this specific slot game without any win. There’s no such low hit ratio and volatility available on any slot games. Usually, you will encounter already a win under 100 spin.
Continuing to spin without winning up to 100 spin is understandable but keep spinning until it goes thousand of spin is already madness because surely the game has bug or the RTP was set near zero if a thousand spin doesn’t give a win.
This kind of article show that some gambler is willing to take such high risk without checking the game validity.
Continuing to spin without winning up to 100 spin is understandable but keep spinning until it goes thousand of spin is already madness because surely the game has bug or the RTP was set near zero if a thousand spin doesn’t give a win.
This kind of article show that some gambler is willing to take such high risk without checking the game validity.
September 04, 2024, 11:03:40 AM
Meanwhile my personal question is, are slot games really provably fair? If odds can be set to zero, and no one be able to win, is it not possible that some casinos might be using this means or method to cheat slot players off their hard earned money?
Slots games are very risky we know that but winning $0 on 20000 spins in a row is not normal. there must have been a bug in that casino site and that bug caused this to happen to him. I am not used to playing slots games because I am very scared of it. So I always try to avoid slots games. Because I do not find any logic of win and loss here and it is not possible for me to make a possible prediction here. Because of this I do not play slots games myself and ask others to refrain from playing them. Because it is designed in such a way that everyone will be tempted to win huge jackpots but everyone will lose during the session. 
September 04, 2024, 10:56:38 AM
We don't know if slot game is fair or not because we don't search to find. Maybe some people research about that to find the provably fair of slot games. We can only be positive thinking about that because we use slot games to have fun.
But maybe some casinos cheat their customer and makes them lose their money but still, we don't know for sure. If you think slot games is not fair, you don't have to play and choose the other gambling games. But that fine will not be too big for Draftking so they can pay the fine.
Those people are lucky as Draftking give back their money because of the lose. That will be their lesson that not many casino will repay their money when they lose and want to investigate the bug. That is why we must control ourselves when playing slot games because that can makes us lose much money.
But maybe some casinos cheat their customer and makes them lose their money but still, we don't know for sure. If you think slot games is not fair, you don't have to play and choose the other gambling games. But that fine will not be too big for Draftking so they can pay the fine.
Those people are lucky as Draftking give back their money because of the lose. That will be their lesson that not many casino will repay their money when they lose and want to investigate the bug. That is why we must control ourselves when playing slot games because that can makes us lose much money.
September 04, 2024, 09:10:19 AM
Meanwhile after Draftking has refunded player who were affected a total of $23,909, the state gamming regulators slammed a fine of $19,000 to Draftking and another $3,500 to the game provider.
That's a bad Joke...
The casino had a bugged game that made the user lose $23k and they only get a $19k fine, even if they pay back the money to the user, that fine is a joke for a casino like that. And the game provider fine was a lesson, how can they cheat users and the consequence is to only pay some pennies.
What about the other users who were affected by the same game, let me guess they were the guys who paid the fine, lol.
This likely depends on the number of complaints they receive. Some gamblers who only wagered small amounts might not be as affected by the bug. The casino's return due to the bug indicates they admitted their mistake and paid the price for their negligence, as they were fined by the regulators. If the amount involved were larger, the fines would likely be more significant. More importantly, this incident damages the casino's reputation, as high-stakes bettors are unlikely to continue using this casino after hearing about the issue.
September 04, 2024, 09:00:38 AM
I am wondering what was the player mood after so many spins 
moreover with RTP they can always "explain" some "crazy odd"... likewise 0.0000....1 % is a rare odd but it can pop out
the same even if rare...by the way this case is pretty impossible with online casino since even if they have "bad odds" this is really a limit case that would never happens.
...what about online casino that only have Curacao license? I really doubt if someone found a bug on the casinos, the casinos will refund the money.
good point here. maybe casino could issue a reimbursment for their player but first of all how to prove it? moreover with RTP they can always "explain" some "crazy odd"... likewise 0.0000....1 % is a rare odd but it can pop out
the same even if rare...by the way this case is pretty impossible with online casino since even if they have "bad odds" this is really a limit case that would never happens. 
September 04, 2024, 08:55:44 AM
Meanwhile after Draftking has refunded player who were affected a total of $23,909, the state gamming regulators slammed a fine of $19,000 to Draftking and another $3,500 to the game provider.
That's a bad Joke...
The casino had a bugged game that made the user lose $23k and they only get a $19k fine, even if they pay back the money to the user, that fine is a joke for a casino like that. And the game provider fine was a lesson, how can they cheat users and the consequence is to only pay some pennies.
What about the other users who were affected by the same game, let me guess they were the guys who paid the fine, lol.
September 04, 2024, 08:41:13 AM
According to the news, 522 other players from Connecticut also played the same game and did not get any winning after several spins, the issue was reported to regulators, meanwhile draftking had already carried out their own investigations and discovered that a bug in the game code set the game odd to zero, and for this reason, no one can win,
It was clear to me that it was a bug.
Meanwhile my personal question is, are slot games really provably fair? If odds can be set to zero, and no one be able to win, is it not possible that some casinos might be using this means or method to cheat slot players off their hard earned money?
To do so would be to shoot yourself in the foot, and to ask it means not understanding very well how the subject works. Slots are the most profitable game for casinos, so if they set the odds to 0 what they would do would be to lose customers because people would realize that they can't win.
Precisely what gets people hooked on slots is the possibility of winning, and without it they would run out of customers or, as in this case, they would be denounced to the authorities.
Why are you going to change anything in your most profitable game? It was clear that it was a bug.
September 04, 2024, 08:38:09 AM
This is the concern of slot players, maybe they don't care about the bug problem on the slot but players will think it's like being cheated because with 20,000 spins they don't get any winnings, who is not annoyed by this?
So I don't know if Draftking is a provider or a casino name?
It's hard to prove that slots are fair or not... there are still many gamblers who believe slots can bring good luck... not all slots are cheating, of course some are fair, but remember slots will never be profitable for long.
So I don't know if Draftking is a provider or a casino name?
It's hard to prove that slots are fair or not... there are still many gamblers who believe slots can bring good luck... not all slots are cheating, of course some are fair, but remember slots will never be profitable for long.
September 04, 2024, 08:31:41 AM
The problem with these kinds of bugs is that they could have turned this from zero to just 3% and most of the ones playing would have just said they were terribly unlucky and not thought it was rigged against them, just cutting the real chances in half would probably get unnoticed for weeks if not months.
I'm curious what kind of "bug" this was as it sounds more like a feature, a fair game should not be able to have such a thing, a game with a RDP set to zero shouldn't be possible with fair draws unless you set even the winnings to zero.
It's total spins for the game from all players
I'm curious what kind of "bug" this was as it sounds more like a feature, a fair game should not be able to have such a thing, a game with a RDP set to zero shouldn't be possible with fair draws unless you set even the winnings to zero.
For a gambler to make 20000 spins in a slot game simply means he has an unlimited bankroll because tell me why and how someone can sit down to make insanely multiple trials like this, it would take hours and hours of constant trials to hit that number of spins.
It's total spins for the game from all players
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But from Aug. 15 through Aug. 21 last year, a total of 522 people in Connecticut who wagered nearly $24,000 on the game over more than 20,659 spins received no wins, according to a report by Connecticut’s Department of Consumer Protection.
September 04, 2024, 08:16:05 AM
You people should not deceives yourself. In long time, gamblers will still later lose. If you are gambling and not having any winning, you should know that the online slot machine is faulty and used by the casino to make more money. I have gambled using slot machines online before in many good gambling site and they are all good but if I stay longer and continue to gamble, I will still later lose. But I prefer games like Roulette, Blackjack and Baccarat and Dice which I know manipulation will not be simple because gamblers takes almost all the odds available.
It's true that, in the long run, most gamblers end up losing, and the odds are generally stacked in favor of the house. However, the core issue here is transparency and integrity. It's one thing to lose knowing the odds, but it's another to lose due to a hidden flaw or manipulation in the game. Whether it's slots, roulette, or any other game, the fairness and honesty of the platform should be beyond question. If casinos aren’t fully transparent, it erodes trust and harms the entire industry. That’s why it’s crucial for us as players to stay vigilant and demand accountability from these platforms. hero member
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September 04, 2024, 03:31:01 AM
Meanwhile after Draftking has refunded player who were affected a total of $23,909, the state gamming regulators slammed a fine of $19,000 to Draftking and another $3,500 to the game provider.
Meanwhile my personal question is, are slot games really provably fair? If odds can be set to zero, and no one be able to win, is it not possible that some casinos might be using this means or method to cheat slot players off their hard earned money?
Meanwhile my personal question is, are slot games really provably fair? If odds can be set to zero, and no one be able to win, is it not possible that some casinos might be using this means or method to cheat slot players off their hard earned money?
With this case, I can agree that some slot game may not be provably fair in the sense that a bug could actually be on the game and must have set the game odds to zero and players might not know about this and even if the casino finds out about this, they might only fix the bug without refunding players.
I am actually in support of the $19k fine, because if it was a player that was cheating, the casino will be so smart to detect it, now that it's a bug, they couldn't detect it very quickly, they allowed 522 player to lose. So bad.
September 04, 2024, 03:25:43 AM
A slot player in Connecticut was said to have decided to play a new slot game that appeared on Draftking casino late August (Last month), but how ever, it was an really ugly experience after the player was said to have clicked the spin button for several hundreds of times and didn't get any winning, soon enough, hundreds of spins turned into thousands of spins, yet no winning.
According to the news, 522 other players from Connecticut also played the same game and did not get any winning after several spins, the issue was reported to regulators, meanwhile draftking had already carried out their own investigations and discovered that a bug in the game code set the game odd to zero, and for this reason, no one can win, Draftking then refunded all the players who had played the game the money they spent for bets but without telling the players what actually was the cause of the lack of winning, the game was taken down, bug fixed and then was relaunched.
Meanwhile after Draftking has refunded player who were affected a total of $23,909, the state gamming regulators slammed a fine of $19,000 to Draftking and another $3,500 to the game provider.
Click the shot to read the full news..
Meanwhile my personal question is, are slot games really provably fair? If odds can be set to zero, and no one be able to win, is it not possible that some casinos might be using this means or method to cheat slot players off their hard earned money?
According to the news, 522 other players from Connecticut also played the same game and did not get any winning after several spins, the issue was reported to regulators, meanwhile draftking had already carried out their own investigations and discovered that a bug in the game code set the game odd to zero, and for this reason, no one can win, Draftking then refunded all the players who had played the game the money they spent for bets but without telling the players what actually was the cause of the lack of winning, the game was taken down, bug fixed and then was relaunched.
Meanwhile after Draftking has refunded player who were affected a total of $23,909, the state gamming regulators slammed a fine of $19,000 to Draftking and another $3,500 to the game provider.
Click the shot to read the full news..
Meanwhile my personal question is, are slot games really provably fair? If odds can be set to zero, and no one be able to win, is it not possible that some casinos might be using this means or method to cheat slot players off their hard earned money?
For a gambler to make 20000 spins in a slot game simply means he has an unlimited bankroll because tell me why and how someone can sit down to make insanely multiple trials like this, it would take hours and hours of constant trials to hit that number of spins. The casino on the other hand is rigged cause there's no excuse for this, no matter how unlucky a gambler is, in 20000 spins there should be a high chance of winning at least 10 to 50 spins. This should be a lesson to every gambler out there, playing this games without control can cause a lot of damage
September 04, 2024, 03:22:01 AM
Meanwhile my personal question is, are slot games really provably fair? If odds can be set to zero, and no one be able to win, is it not possible that some casinos might be using this means or method to cheat slot players off their hard earned money?
There is no fair slot provider, like it or not, slot players will not have a higher chance of winning compared to the provider. But their mistake in setting the chance of winning to zero is one of the most fatal things, because how could something as simple as that escape their attention. It seems that they did it on purpose or they are not that professional in providing games to their players.
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