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Topic: DragonMint T1 16TH/S halongmining.com - page 112. (Read 87857 times)

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December 27, 2017, 07:42:48 PM
I agree, everyday that goes by I become more and more convinced that the BTC I sent halong mining is gone forever.  I hope I'm wrong.  No one to blame but myself.  I am glad the community here is trying to get to the bottom of this. 

Ill buy your units  Grin
newbie
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December 27, 2017, 07:27:01 PM
I agree, everyday that goes by I become more and more convinced that the BTC I sent halong mining is gone forever.  I hope I'm wrong.  No one to blame but myself.  I am glad the community here is trying to get to the bottom of this. 
legendary
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December 27, 2017, 05:53:26 PM
They said they sent products to a few random people so they can review it but not even a single photo.

I was very hyped for this but with every passing day, its smells more like scam. C'mon post a photo of it at least...
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December 27, 2017, 05:12:50 PM

But you must realise we have seen so many scams during history that we are very cautious.


I can respect this.

Scott, while we are patiently waiting for more details on DragonMint, can you please fill us in on your background or role in all of this? Do you work for them? What is your interest?
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December 27, 2017, 01:34:06 PM

But you must realise we have seen so many scams during history that we are very cautious.


I can respect this.
legendary
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Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!
December 27, 2017, 01:30:34 PM

...price stays the same(1650ish) more-less

...and the best thing trusted people from forum do the review


I can tell you this for sure... the price will be lower per TH than others currently on the market. And, reviews will be coming soon (not necessarily by power-users in this forum, but reviews are coming). I did request that a few units get sent to the main complainers of this thread, but it's not possible at this time.


Still making promises, you didn't learn the first time did you  Wink

You really should just politely go dark till you have something bro!  Instead of making more promises hehe.

A pre-launch campaign with no proof from a new player around here overwhelmingly means scam, as you can see.

When you can launch the product properly come back with proof, sell out, profit, simple as that.  Enjoy the crazy market conditions of present and don't over complicate things man.
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Ultra Mega Giga Super Cool Flying Oposum!
December 27, 2017, 01:05:05 PM
Yes... main complainers = trusted users Wink

Hey i complain a lot! That doesn't mean i am not trusted(even if i don't have green trust Cheesy )
legendary
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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
December 27, 2017, 01:00:34 PM
It's criticism, not complaining.

If this ends well with a positive note, then I no more have a reason for criticism.

But you must realise we have seen so many scams during history that we are very cautious.

Bring in the proof and we no longer need talks like this.
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December 27, 2017, 12:57:56 PM
Yes... main complainers = trusted users Wink
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December 27, 2017, 12:56:08 PM
It shouldn't be main complainers, it should be trusted users, philipma1957, or HagssFIN, or 1 more(i forget his name sorry)
newbie
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December 27, 2017, 12:52:40 PM
I didn't trust this when I saw it but I've changed my mind to wait and see. I did see on Bitminter where D. had Halong's site as a dealer to buy from. I've mined on Bitminter for years. I trust Dr. to have good insight as to what's right. Not that he couldn't be fooled like anyone else.
But he is a trusted member of the community.
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December 27, 2017, 12:37:22 PM

...price stays the same(1650ish) more-less

...and the best thing trusted people from forum do the review


I can tell you this for sure... the price will be lower per TH than others currently on the market. And, reviews will be coming soon (not necessarily by power-users in this forum, but reviews are coming). I did request that a few units get sent to the main complainers of this thread, but it's not possible at this time.
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I'm in BTC XTC
December 27, 2017, 12:33:05 PM
Yeah, yet another 'few weeks' but we're still waiting for that video review that's stuck in Post for some reason... Roll Eyes
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December 27, 2017, 12:11:38 PM
If in few weeks, everything comes to be clear, all FUD dissapears, price stays the same(1650ish) more-less(because all prices skyrocketed(btc,bitman etc yadda yadda yadda), and most important in the end we see REAL PROOF. and the best thing trusted people from forum do the review!!  I would gladly buy ONE of yours, if you don't stay with logic "ONLY 5" per order
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December 27, 2017, 11:55:32 AM
...what assurance you have that you (and Adam Back etc) aren’t being used by Halong as puppets too, as part of a larger plan.

The only thing Bitmain would have to do to win back their customers' trust would be to improve their customer service, improve the quality of their manufacturing and keep their prices reasonable... right? This shouldn't be hard for a multi-billion dollar company to do. I assure you, there is no conspiracy occurring here (if that is what you are hinting at). I can tell you, no one is a puppet here.

There is far more at play here than is currently understood. Obviously there has not much of anything revealed at this point, and I respect the honest skepticism that some have expressed. If I were better at public relations, I would never have jumped on here and started making promises.

The only thing I can say right now is... if you really are uncomfortable sending $ to what appears to be scam, then just wait a few weeks.

Now this is a rough estimate, but Bitmain has around 70% of the mining equipment industry market share right now. They also own various mining pools out there (whether obvious or unknown).  A change needs to occur and this Halong project is that change.
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December 27, 2017, 11:38:20 AM
Bitmain not only dominates hardware sales but in my opinion has a 51% attack vector already secured in hash rate they control.

You do realize just because they operate large pools they dont "control" hashrate right? People can change pools whenever they want.

*hands you a tinfoil hat*

the pool runs the code and does in fact control the hash on the pool while it remains on their pool

this is why everyone moved their hash off GHASH a few years back

take back your shitty tinfoil hat
newbie
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December 27, 2017, 11:31:32 AM
There will be a steady stream of news coming soon. It’s ok not to buy right now. Actually, you can’t by right now. But the thing is, the demand is higher than all the suppliers put together can even handle. There will be no problem finding buyers.


Thanks for taking the time to post on this forum Scott. Whilst I don’t think it justifies Halongs approach to Customer relations, I do take your point that demand far outstrips supply. So if, for a moment, we are to take your claims of this projects legitamacy on face value, can you please tell us what assurance you have that you (and Adam Back etc) aren’t being used by Halong as puppets too, as part of a larger plan.

This is not an accusation, just a question which may allay potential customers concerns.
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December 27, 2017, 11:29:49 AM
Bitmain not only dominates hardware sales but in my opinion has a 51% attack vector already secured in hash rate they control.

You do realize just because they operate large pools they dont "control" hashrate right? People can change pools whenever they want.

*hands you a tinfoil hat*
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Ultra Mega Giga Super Cool Flying Oposum!
December 27, 2017, 11:22:58 AM

short term thinking

Let me paraphrase(not sure is this word that i am looking for) that NO PROOF THINKING
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December 27, 2017, 11:11:37 AM
Nov to dec 26 no real info on this thread.

21 pages no real info on this item.

I purchased  a s-9  on nov 23 and it has been mining for a week already .

I purchased twenty gpus and built a beast 8 gpu 4000 sol rig along with other rigs.

No real info on this item.

We had 2 diff jumps of 18 percent and coins dropped from 20k to 16k

Which is a 20 percent drop.

So march preorders that arrive in April do not appeal much.

short term thinking

Buyng from Halong supports a bitmain competitor. Bitmain not only dominates hardware sales but in my opinion has a 51% attack vector already secured in hash rate they control. If miners do not get their greed in check, bitcoin and alts will be destroyed by Bitmains monopoly because the space will cease to be decentralized.
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