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Topic: DragonMint T1 16TH/S halongmining.com - page 107. (Read 87857 times)

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January 05, 2018, 08:39:21 AM
lol. Like I've said earlier, there's absolutely no need for us to gain any honest reviews whatsoever. We are in no hurry to gain credibility. The product will speak for itself. Two things for you this morning... 1) Please don't pre-order a Halong Mining DragonMint. 2) Don't call it a scam until you have proof that someone has indeed been scammed. Ok?! Bye.


... BW.com sends their miner for a honest review, Halong Mining doesn't.

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January 05, 2018, 08:35:55 AM
Castiel0504, An announcement of an official international distributor relationship will be made later this month. At that point, you'll then be able to order your onesie / twosie miners. :-)

So according to your reply, minimum order buy for miners will always be for 5 miners at once? Thre will be no selling miners 1 by 1, to little miners like me? I don't think that is good way to sell your units.
legendary
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January 05, 2018, 08:35:15 AM
“Second Biggest Asic Producer”? What does that even mean?

The basic meaning that I wanted to bring up with that video interview is that BW.com sends their miner for a honest review,
Halong Mining doesn't.

BW.com - 1

Halong Mining - 0
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January 05, 2018, 08:34:12 AM
My purpose behind posting that pic was simply to buy some time and give a few of the naysayers a little hope. That's all. I promise, more will come from actual independent reviewers in due time. No one is asking you to pre-order. In fact, we've tried our best to discourage it. Halong does not need $ from customers in order to fund the venture. The funds were already there before the project began.


I gotta call BS on this.  Why are the units presold then?

I guess if the point was to take the money and run, you would have done the running part already.  I'm hopeful to see some competition in this space, but all the mystery is unnecessary.  If you had the funds since day one, just produce the product and ship.

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January 05, 2018, 08:33:17 AM
I'm sorry Mr/Mrs Sandal_Hat, but I'm afraid you don't understand the complexities of wholesale versus retail, logistics and scaling. Do you run a manufacturing company of your own? Do you sell highly complex electronic equipment internationally? Who the hell are you dude/dudette?! How many mining rigs are you currently running yourself? Etc. Etc. You are only brave behind a digital username. Unless you can prove to me that you're more than just forum bunny, you'll be just a voice in the wilderness to me.


lol this is pure bullshit...your post has no sense.

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January 05, 2018, 08:24:01 AM
So according to your reply, minimum order buy for miners will always be for 5 miners at once? Thre will be no selling miners 1 by 1, to little miners like me? I don't think that is good way to sell your units. Well its easier to sell in bulk, but again...i have mixed feelings about this Sad
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January 05, 2018, 08:22:27 AM
Your guess is bad. That’s not how it works. If only large companies are making large orders for large dollar amounts, the reprocessing on the mining industry / market would be HUGE. It would be utterly disastrous to fail to deliver to people ordering 1000+ units. While one of the desired outcomes is to decentralize the mining manufacturing industry, selling one or two units at a time will NOT accomplish this. Selling thousands of units at a time is a more efficient use of the companies resources at this current moment in time.

lol this is pure bullshit...your post has no sense. U make more when u have more sales. U are even asking for money first haha. It is easy to create more invoices and courier out more parcels via dhl/fedex/etc. This isnt alot of invoices/customers when it is 5 per order lol and it gives u around 8k USD that u wanna be paid for first. U have no possible cashflow issues either since u are paid first.


U are asking for 1000+ units per order because u want the voice of 1 person complaining later, and not hundreds complaining....when nothing is shipped.
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January 05, 2018, 08:18:38 AM
My purpose behind posting that pic was simply to buy some time and give a few of the naysayers a little hope. That's all. I promise, more will come from actual independent reviewers in due time. No one is asking you to pre-order. In fact, we've tried our best to discourage it. Halong does not need $ from customers in order to fund the venture. The funds were already there before the project began.


What's the point of your picture and post?  To add credibility?

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January 05, 2018, 08:12:26 AM
Your guess is bad. That’s not how it works. If only large companies are making large orders for large dollar amounts, the reprocessing on the mining industry / market would be HUGE. It would be utterly disastrous to fail to deliver to people ordering 1000+ units. While one of the desired outcomes is to decentralize the mining manufacturing industry, selling one or two units at a time will NOT accomplish this. Selling thousands of units at a time is a more efficient use of the companies resources at this current moment in time.
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January 05, 2018, 08:06:17 AM
Guys and gals.. seriously, buy yourself an airline ticket and come to my house in Brookfield, Wisconsin USA if you want to see this thing in person. Otherwise, this is all I'm authorized to display online at the moment:

Ya, ya... go ahead and laugh or scoff.

You gotta understand, the community here has seen it all and read the court transcripts of the depositions.  So, I'm sure you'll understand why people aren't jumping up and down at some pictures of a wall meter.

It seems like nearly all new entrants to the market need some funding, and the funding source is often the customer-base.  This puts a real strain on the community to say the least when delays occur, and in worst cases, the venture folds without shipping product.

What's the point of your picture and post?  To add credibility?
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January 05, 2018, 08:02:32 AM
Then why not just send Philip a copy. He writes good detailed reviews and have 200+ trust rating. I dont think he can be bought over.

Halong has a minimum of 5 miner for an order.
They have no stock now but will somehow have stock if u order 1000+ miners in one order?? They will not distribute this 1000+ miners into multiple orders?

I believe the above is because they want to limit the number of buyers. So, assuming this goes bad later, there wont be 5000+ complaints from the public. There will be more like 100 complains instead. This way, it will be abit low key and perhaps easier for them to get away and maybe not even investigated. They dont wanna be hauled to court like butterfly labs. All those who endorsed the company will either dissapear if they are anonymous or perhaps claim to be a victim as well, etc.


Thats just my gut feeling. I could be wrong but I doubt it.

Just my 2 cents.
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January 05, 2018, 07:19:35 AM
Sooo i don't understand this picture? We can just do raw guess those are S9's value,  You always know that there is 4chan, and someone can do anonymous leaks Cheesy . I'm not implying anything, but again with this picture, there is nothing new here..

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January 05, 2018, 07:10:45 AM
“Second Biggest Asic Producer”? What does that even mean?
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January 05, 2018, 06:39:04 AM
Demo units are not for sale.
Well, that's a bad choice IMO.

I'm gonna quote Virgilio on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdKOgNgyZM4&feature=youtu.be&t=3m51s
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January 05, 2018, 06:32:44 AM
Odd indeed. Yes, we are paranoid.

Demo units are not for sale. If you’d like to come to my house and see the unit in person, you are more than welcome. You can see it side by side to a new end-of-January batch Antminer S9 13.7TH/s in the crawl space below my dining room.
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January 05, 2018, 06:22:51 AM
This is indeed the most odd product launch yet.

Either they are very paranoid with their product design or this does not exist at all.

@offordscott
Please let us know if Phil or/and I can buy a demo unit for a thorough review and that way stop all this madness.
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January 05, 2018, 05:51:34 AM
I've PM'd you. But be warned... newbie accounts can only make 1 private message reply per 24 hour period.

I'll fly to Brookfield, Wisconsin. Shoot me the address and we'll set a date.

That's better than Promojo, who was afraid to show me his data center, when the photos were of the miner in his home... He could have set it up in a library for all I cared it was just an option to lend validity to this product.

Which is the oddest product launch I've ever seen in any way shape or form.

It will be interesting to see if this meeting pans out. Like many others though this whole process doesn't make me want one in the slightest.

I've mostly just "grabbed Popcorn" and stuck around
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January 05, 2018, 05:48:00 AM
philipma1957, thanks for doing that. I didn't know how to properly embed a photo.


I fixed your image below

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January 05, 2018, 05:42:12 AM
I've PM'd you. But be warned... newbie accounts can only make 1 private message reply per 24 hour period.

I'll fly to Brookfield, Wisconsin. Shoot me the address and we'll set a date.
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January 05, 2018, 05:40:13 AM
Stop being an ignorant ingrate, Searing.

It’s ok if you ignore my username. The only reason I joined this forum was to participate in this thread (which I did not create in the first place) and to try to bring a little clarity and perspective.

If you’d like me (one of the only ones in the entire world right now) to stop talking about a product in a subforum that was specifically created for this very purpose, then I can certainly go away.

I’m sure you’ve seen a lot of empty promises made and real scams played in your lifetime here on your way to a 4.5-star Legendary account. But your judgment is way off on this one, sir.


I call this bullsh*t and if it is NOT bullsh*t because the product exists, then it is bullsh*t with how you are trolling the product,

...

I just put your ass on ignore..I will follow on the thread but don't need to see anymore of your Unicorn fantasy posts of invisible miners with visible power meters

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