Topic: DragonMint T1 16TH/S halongmining.com - page 47. (Read 87857 times)

Bitmain does sue. Lawsuit might complicate things for users.


1570 / 15.5 = 101.2watts per TH.

Ok, so now we have 5 comparison numbers

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S9 - 1420w/13.8th =   102.9 watts per TH

Elok
Dragonmint
 #1: 15.15TH/s @ 1647w (Myrig PSU). 108.71w per TH
 #2: 15.42TH/s @ 1586w (Myrig PSU). 102.85w per TH
 #3: 15.51TH/s @ 1477w (Myrig PSU). 95.23w per TH
 #4: 15.24Th/s @1680w (EVGA 1600 G2). 110.24 T

Zand_
Dragonmint
#5: 15.5TH/s @ 1570w = 101.2 w per TH.

Perhaps, those who have units, post pics and add your numbers.

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reading all these conspiracy bs I have pretty much no questions left, besides what was a reason y'all guys to not join that Dragonmint chat the invite to which I personally found here in the thread?

I never been using this forum since i'm not even running an operation myself, just selling them miners.  But when I was into legit checking Halong of course I ended up here and found the invite. Being there at the chat for couple months straight I cleared all my previous concerns and made a bulk order with Halong after taking orders from my clients which was partly shipped last week and is shipping the remainder now.

Why all your discussions are spinning around someone being OG on this thread? No offense but all of them names you called out are authorities only here and that's it. In the meantime all the people you scam-shamed before which supported halong in the beginning, are well known on the scene, not only this forum.

By the way there are a guy above who is willing to sell some dragonmints he has on hand. if anybody so into this drama why can't y'all crowdfound a couple units for Philip and HaggsFIN rather than still shaming dimaze for his post count lol

As far as I can see the problem is y'all are thinking its obligatory for halong to send these units for free to put some respect on you guys since y'all have shit ton of posts here ? but thats plain ridiculous.

edit: grammar since was posting from mobile

Nope. The fact that u are near a manufacturer is more reason that u should not do the review as it may not be impartial. If Halong was good, they should honor their deal to send philip a demo unit rather than talk and not carry out something so simple as shipping. No one knows if u are an original account holder as your 2018 posts are all in this thread only. Your previous post before halong is in 2015 and u just happen to live nearby halong haha. Think about it. It almost look like they gonna cherry pick a unit to do a review. There are so few tweets on this as it is and some still think it is an elaborate scam and that those tweets are paid.


If halong was good, they would send 1 demo to a few 3rd party established members, maybe philip, hagsfin, dabs, searing. We will have 4 independent and fair reviews of the units. This would be best and fair. The efficiency of the unit can differ substantially after all, as a member reported with comparison of 5 units.

Well what is the consensus? Are these miners basically a draw, compared to getting Bitmain units last week (shipping this week) at bitmain 'fire sale' prices?

My take on it, more or less a draw? Only real drama is the price issue of BTC affecting both units?

or am I incorrect and off in some substantial manner

(just trying to resolve if dragonmint folk at least are 'even' with bitmain stuff being shipped this week...more or less for value)

not a slam...but kinda want to know for any future pre-orders on this product or bitmain product or whatever...how is the timeline and such shake out in the future

for pre-orders?

anyway, nice to see folk are getting their toys...(my condolences on the BTC price)

Again, my take is its a draw...as of April 2nd, 2018

I've tried to be fair and objective in my criticism of Halong Mining and its unveiling of the DragonMint. I've spent considerable time conducting due diligence on Halong Mining and "MyRig, Inc." I purchased many DragonMints in early January (more than the MOQ). I did so impulsively, being irrationally exuberant when BTC prices were much higher than they are today. I didn't do my usual due diligence on Halong Mining, and that was my mistake. When I became 99% convinced that Halong Mining was a scam and that I'd never receive the miners I bought from them, I immediately wanted to share publicly the results of my research, so I shared my concerns with Unicornflex (a friend, associate, and member of this community), who made the initial post of our concerns. (See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2443327.1260.) We decided this post would perhaps be better received by this community from his account, since he had been a member here for many years, and my account was just created. My only motivation in voicing the results of my research was to help others not get scammed, as I certainly feared I would be.

My opinion about Halong Mining and "MyRig, Inc." has not changed much. There is no question they are shady operators. Because their incorporation cannot be verified, the public has no way to hold them accountable, for example, for design defects or theft of intellectual property (yes, perhaps from Innosilicon -- see https://i.imgur.com/RgI9Eoy.jpg; please note: the origin of this photo is unknown to me, but was shared today on the DragonMint Telegram Group, https://t.me/dragonmint), by someone named @swapman.)

Halong Mining and "MyRig, Inc." don't reply to reasonable inquiries for information about their incorporation or registered agents. Halong Mining claims an FCC certification of its hardware (the DM1) exists, but the FCC has no record of it that I can find. Why wouldn't Halong want to share the details of its FCC certificate if it had one? There are many, many other concerns that I've tried to document in this thread.

Having said that, we know that -ck has done essential, valid work for the community, including, he says, for Halong Mining. He has said he is working remotely on the firmware used by the DragonMint with interesting, positive results. In fact, he has made so many statements in this thread affirming the DragonMint, we have to trust him that this hardware is real, even if it is produced by shadowy figures. It doesn't mean we should place new orders for hardware from Halong Mining. I don't think we should. I do not recommend purchasing from Halong Mining until it discloses who its operators are and where it is incorporated. I would also like to see an FCC registration number of its claimed FCC certificate or other information on where the public can view it. Until Halong Mining discloses this information, understand that if you buy from Halong Mining, caveat emptor, you're buying from people who you cannot hold accountable, so don't count on anything. While I appreciate the confirmations made by -ck, Adam Back, Jan Čapek, and JP La Torre, let's be clear -- they are not warranting anything about the shipment of hardware by Halong Mining. Its operators could disappear at any moment for any reason -- valid or not.

Lol Cobra, such plug.

As I have said the gear exists by that I mean the T1

So far  every meter  shows it to be off  from 16,000 gh and 1400 watts.

-ck says it may be tuned to a better number then the current number. Down the road.

So it looks like early adopters got hurt here. They had their money held from black Friday  till this week.


About 120 days.

And the gear seems to do  .1 watts a gh  under 10% improvement then the s-9  maybe under 5% improvement.

I can buy a 420 coupon for 70  and get a 13th  s-9 for

1160 + 100 = 1260  + 70 = 1330 - 420 or 910

I am thinking 910 dollar s-9s  look better then this gear. > This is  a speculation about the value of the T1

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Cøbra's accounts are owned by a guy who worked for Bitmain and now works for Roger Ver. Don't get fooled by his propaganda!

No idea... Seems to be working fine though.

I've never seen a level of angst from someone that's been around as long as you have against a manufacturer like you have. Did Halong or their prominent supporters do you wrong? You're saying you wouldn't meet a manufacturer representative if he was close to you? I encourage you to fly out here and review the unit with me as soon as I get it. Seriously. I promise the DHL guy that delivers it actually works for DHL and isn't fake. There is nothing wrong with advancements in the field - it is something that should be encouraged among all the manufacturers for a level of competition that is helpful to consumers and the industry at the end of the day. What you have been doing is incredibly divisive.


Glad to have you swing around and check it out. I'll be out in NY a week in early May, I can arrange for my secretary to show you if that's the time you plan on being in town By then the April units should be all out in the wild too!

@Zand -- Nice to see units out in the wild! Can't wait to check mine out when I get it

Thanks for the photos!

What does it mean to have that many HW errors that soon after plug in?

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Let's say Halong stole the shit out of Bitmain's designs and everything. WHY DO YOU CARE?

The one I plugged in is running at 15.5 THs and pulling around 1570 watts. See photos below...

https://i.imgur.com/mzh9WcF.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3w356pJ.jpg

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What's wrong with giving legitimacy to a company which delivers its promises? People already started posting its photos around. What fake miners? What's wrong with you?

It is not just Adam, -ck, slush btw. Don't forget core dev btcdrak.

You stopped posting for nearly 3 months and suddenly started the "halong is scam" propaganda. Have you seen what people say about you recently on twitter? Do you realize how suspicious your actions are right now?

You probably are in Halong's shoes, since you sound like Scott Offord, Halong's "helper" who also happens to be based in Milwaukee. I'll bet "zerobias" in this thread is Oleg, a Russian associated with this whole shady operation.

Really, how convenient for this guy to get the hardware for review, and not people like philipma1957 and HagssFIN?

Bunch of scammers selling likely stolen shit to the community that doesn't meet the specification, and fake miners, and preying on rightful concerns about mining centralization to pump their deception the entire way. I feel bad for people like -ck, Adam Back, and slush who got deceived by these guys and helped add legitimacy to them, the coming weeks are going to be... interesting for them.

I'll be flying out to MKE in May.  I'd be interested in a quick visit seeing it.  Might help to clarify, or maybe add more to the confusion!
Once I got my plans made I'll PM you.  Might be a moot point by then, tho...

Quite honestly, if I was in Halong's shoes, I'd probably do the exact same thing.  The March orders were the early believers and the ones that should deserve their units before anyone else. I certainly wouldn't ship test units to anyone before my very first customers that had paid me nearly half a year ago. Remember, everyone had the opportunity to see the unit in person -- which many people did, in January at multiple avenues. There is zero chance I would ship anyone else the units prior to my early believers.

I think I've made my point clear and concise with my activity and have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that I am the original account holder. As indicated, if there was a manufacturer representative that lived close to you, I'm sure anyone here would do the same thing I have done.

With regards to reviewing the unit, if anyone wants to fly/drive out to Milwaukee and visit my shop when I receive the unit, they are welcome to do so. I'm happy to host you and review the unit together with anyone that wishes to. Cobra, if you fly out, I'll even get a crow 

I think they should have units. Slushpool tweeted they hit 3EH on 24th march. It is now about 3.0 EH but it was 2.9EH about 10 hours ago. It has been 2.85-3EH the last week from what I notice on the app. So, I dont think they sold much. It is tough to sell in this market for one thing. Perhaps u can try again.

That doesnt make sense to me. Why would bitmain create their own competitor and compete with themselve? Driving up mining difficulty hurts themselves too as they are the biggest miner, among other things. They can just keep selling at higher prices, lesser units but more profit if not for competition.

Making an xmr machine for bitmain and one for halong is also waste of money. It is the same to do 2 for SIA.
This miner is supportive of.slushpool, which is bitmain antpool competitor. It is default on slush right?


Furthermore, if bitmain created halong just to use an excuse to lower miners, they have gotten what they wanted and they would have no issue to send u a demo.

Inno being Dragonmint makes more sense. Notice how all of dragon miners have no algo similar to inno machines. It is not just the control board.

Just my 2 cents speculation

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I am beginning to think that it may be 2019 before Philipma1957 gets his review unit...I mean really?

Again, my view is they mined a mess of these for months and now folk on here are getting the tail end of their last run (at best)

so...suddenly delays on this last run of units....(and or price issues with BTC) ...so the big stall?

Anyway, the 2nd coming may happen before Philipma1957 gets his review unit...(sorry...just saying)

sheesh...