DragonMint T1 16TH/S halongmining.com - page 51.

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: HagssFIN on March 30, 2018, 06:07:45 PM

Comparing pc parts with asic hardware is not that simple.

When you design your ASIC hardware, you design the whole set all the way from control board, hash boards, chips to be custom made and compatible with each other.

But it is possible that Halong and Inno has had some partnership deal in which Halong has got an access to Inno designs and have that way been able to implement the Inno control board in the Dragonmint unit.

like asrock has with intel
or asus with intel
or evga with intel

or any mobo that uses intel.

HagssFIN

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Comparing pc parts with asic hardware is not that simple.

When you design your ASIC hardware, you design the whole set all the way from control board, hash boards, chips to be custom made and compatible with each other.

But it is possible that Halong and Inno has had some partnership deal in which Halong has got an access to Inno designs and have that way been able to implement the Inno control board in the Dragonmint unit.

NotFuzzyWarm

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Evil beware: We have waffles!

Quote from: -ck on March 30, 2018, 05:07:03 PM

Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on March 30, 2018, 12:21:36 PM

Do be sure to try them on both an AB tweaked pool (slush) and one of the far more common non-AB pools

That's pointless. As I pointed out they do NOT run without AB.

Then until all the SHA256D pools support AB - and frankly I hope most won't - that makes it a definite no-sale for me. Oh well.

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

okay so it has parts from an s-9 and parts from Innosilicon

so like Yoshi told me many parts are similar from various miners.

My HP omen gpu miner has 2 1080ti's and an intel 8700 cpu
Does that make it a Dell Alien gpu miner because the dell has 2 1080tis and an intel 8700 cpu?

So I do not know what the bother is.

Now for them to do well it needs to do 16th at 1300 watts at the wall.

If I ever get my demo I will point it at -ck's pool and try 3 different psu's on it. (not at the same time)

till then I got nothing.

-ck

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Ruu \o/

Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on March 30, 2018, 12:21:36 PM

Do be sure to try them on both an AB tweaked pool (slush) and one of the far more common non-AB pools

That's pointless. As I pointed out they do NOT run without AB.

Sandal_Hat

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Quote from: zerobias on March 30, 2018, 12:41:29 PM

Quote from: HagssFIN on March 30, 2018, 12:33:32 PM

Buck converter design looks to be much like in the S9.

The hash board cooling design is almost copied from the Antminer S9.

Invidual heat sinks, the v-shape area without heat sinks.

thanks, and innosilicon-wise, though the plot was halong is inno, not bitmain

Hmmm speculative theory.

Halong is Innosilicon?

Reasons:
-Control board is similar
-All halongs 4 algorithm asic are different from all innosilicon asic algo. Halong could release more smaller algo asics like SIA and Decred but no litecoin or dash? (not that i want them to do so and compete more)
-The T1 has similar hashboard design to S9. So, if a lawsuit occurs, it goes to halong and not innosilicon. Thus, safer to use another entity. Bitmain is aggressive and is sue-ing whatsminer after all.
-They were able to release new Algo miners for sale quickly, as if the miners were developed and in use before hand. They release those miners around the same time bitmain did.

Hmmmm

Just my 2 cents speculation

Biffa

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Quote from: Biffa on March 28, 2018, 12:50:08 PM

Currently my experience is similar to other manufacturers in the past, in that their ability to get the paperwork done and tracking numbers entered into their system is lagging behind the shipments. Heck even bitmain still does it now and then.

Now I may be being very generous to them, but that's the feedback I am getting from their support team, and given ck's involvement I'm more inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt that the hardware exists.

Obviously hardware existing is no guarantee of it arriving in a timely manner.

Unfortunately mine are not arriving into my hot little hands but going to a datacentre, I'll ask them for some unboxing and setup photos/videos if they have a chance.

I've had the tracking information emailed to me. I know most of you know I've been mining a long time, so as soon as they hit the ground I'll get some photos of the unboxing made and the setup even if I have to pay support costs to do it

sidehack

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Curmudgeonly hardware guy

I glanced over the hashboard photo and immediately looked at an S9 board. Conceptually similar, even the same number of chips, but not the same. At least with the one I have as a reference.

HagssFIN

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You asked for my comments and I gave them. Cheesy

I don't know what kind of patens Bitmain has,
it is hard to say if there will be any lawsuits.

I do know that Bitmain has had or is currently having a lawsuit
with WhatsMiner company.

zerobias

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Quote from: HagssFIN on March 30, 2018, 12:33:32 PM

Buck converter design looks to be much like in the S9.

The hash board cooling design is almost copied from the Antminer S9.

Invidual heat sinks, the v-shape area without heat sinks.

thanks, and innosilicon-wise, though the plot was halong is inno, not bitmain

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Quote from: HagssFIN on March 30, 2018, 12:33:32 PM

Buck converter design looks to be much like in the S9.

The hash board cooling design is almost copied from the Antminer S9.

Invidual heat sinks, the v-shape area without heat sinks.

I am not familiar as I have never open the S9 before.
U think they will get a lawsuit from bitmain?

HagssFIN

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Buck converter design looks to be much like in the S9.

The hash board cooling design is almost copied from the Antminer S9.

Invidual heat sinks, the v-shape area without heat sinks.

Sandal_Hat

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Quote from: zerobias on March 30, 2018, 12:30:36 PM

ain’t nobody wants to discuss pcb photos i posted on page 82?

Wat does it show?? significance wise.

zerobias

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ain’t nobody wants to discuss pcb photos i posted on page 82?

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Quote from: HagssFIN on March 30, 2018, 12:19:59 PM

Yeah.

Cobra posted my comparison image in Twitter
and there was quite a lot of discussion going on.

Link: https://twitter.com/CobraBitcoin/status/979511767389933569

It is almost exactly the same. Safe to say innosilicon is halong mining. Even the words G19 and G29,etc. Real similar

Back then, there was a big miner that said innosilicon claims they have nothing to do with halong. Hmmm

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Quote from: Zand_ on March 30, 2018, 12:06:01 PM

Just received my 5x DragonMints. So much for them being vaporware, time to unbox!

Do be sure to try them on both an AB tweaked pool (slush) and one of the far more common non-AB pools such as kano.is and yes perhaps one of the SHA256 alt coin (BCH) pools as well.

Will be interesting to see how they perform.

HagssFIN

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Yeah.

Cobra posted my comparison image in Twitter
and there was quite a lot of discussion going on.

Link: https://twitter.com/CobraBitcoin/status/979511767389933569

Sandal_Hat

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Quote from: HagssFIN on March 29, 2018, 06:43:33 PM

My guess is that the 1 is just a batch number.

Nice to see that machine live,
I asked him if he could take a photo of the full control board without breaking any seals.

EDIT:
Cool, after I asked and mentioned few tips Brian took out carefully the control board and took a photo of it.

https://twitter.com/brianchoffman/status/979506673021784064

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Here’s the control board in all its glory @HalongMining T1

Picture

Here is a quick comparison I made.

Comparison screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/7av9xSu.jpg

On left you can see the Dragonmint T1 control board
and on right you can see the Innosilicon A4+ control board.

Can you people now believe that I was not crazy talking,
when I said that the control board design is exactly same? Cheesy

Innosilicon is involved in this project in some way,
but I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing.

I've been running some A4+ and A5 machines with no issues so far.

It looks the same indeed. Pretty much exactly. They definitely have something to do with it. I dont see how it can be so precise otherwise.

Zand_

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Just received my 5x DragonMints. So much for them being vaporware, time to unbox!

zerobias

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Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on March 30, 2018, 11:08:25 AM

Quote from: zerobias on March 30, 2018, 10:49:04 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on March 30, 2018, 06:50:37 AM

I am sure the inside heat sinks will look like the s-9 and not the avalon. If I get my promised demo I will open case and look at heat sinks.

actually there are already T1 boards photos on the internets

And heavens forbid you be useful here and provide links to them....
You're new here so perhaps you don't understand that this is a technical forum, not just a social media site where folks spout off with whatever they feel like. That means providing proof of statements like that.

Halong has been putting up far too many brand-new accounts to disseminate their marketing spiels for us to 'just believe'.

here you go bud https://imgur.com/gallery/TRRGO

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