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Topic: DragonMint T1 16TH/S halongmining.com - page 91. (Read 87645 times)

full member
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January 14, 2018, 12:55:40 PM

Hopefull. I have an UFO in my head the last day Wink
But the Twitter account of "Dorian Nakamoto" (pseudo name) is from summer 2017.
A lot of retweets but he is not famous or known in the crypto community for now (what I see or know).


But on the website, next to a lot of numbers from different countries, I see an address:
3700 Quebec Street, Unit 100-239 Denver, Colorado 80207, USA

I see inside this building:
Panera Bread
Westerra Credit Union
Aerial Equioment Company
SportClips
The UPS Store

So its maybe the store address what is not uncommen in USA/Canada (P.O. Box)
Anyways. Anyone in here from Denver to visit them?
jr. member
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January 14, 2018, 12:38:21 PM
Nothings available and in hand yet. Calm yourself noob

I can up my post count too by calling on "noobs" lol.  Thanks for continuing to contribute to the senseless posts of people with "cred" trying to downplay someone with a new account.  Just because I decided to now start an account, does not make me a noob.  The only advantage you guys get is some advertising spiffs if you choose to take advantage of.  other than that, its just a post count to show how little life you have.  Cheers!

Itza
sr. member
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January 14, 2018, 12:12:01 PM
Nothings available and in hand yet. Calm yourself noob
jr. member
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January 14, 2018, 12:05:28 PM
Crickets from the peanut gallery lol.....

In....
3,

2,

1,

"bitmainwarranty is scam" , "myrig is scam", lol.  bring it "Heros"...
full member
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January 14, 2018, 11:30:30 AM
Just tweeted,



Hmmm, sounds nice and they offer PayPal.
But during the order process no PayPal is selectable.

Well, the site is under heavy construction.
Lets wait for finishing the site and giving us new informations and proofs on the DragonMint.
Maybe someone can visit them? Those locations are to far from mine.
member
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Just Getting Started...
January 14, 2018, 11:06:49 AM
Just tweeted,

legendary
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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
January 14, 2018, 10:55:53 AM


I pulled up my post on the forums and took a screenshot of my laptop next to Scott's:
https://i.imgur.com/cwnK1sT.jpg

Thank you for the report and for visiting him.  Smiley

I made this one observation when looking at the DragonMint miner web configuration page.
It looks a lot like web configuration page with the Innosilicon A5 Dashmaster miner.

So most likely a Busybox based software (with Cgminer).

I wonder why is it so much zoomed in view of the conf page.

I wonder if it exactly the same software as in the A5 or what is this?  Huh

Now here is a picture of my Innosilicon A5 web configuration page for a comparison:
https://i.imgur.com/uwQ7i0P.jpg


Scott posted another image of the web conf page in the Telegram chat room, but after I asked him about it by replying his post,
soon after his post and my reply was deleted.

Yeah, I'm still baffled about these details regarding the DragonMint miner web configuration page.  Huh

It is just like the Innosilicon A5 and Innosilicon A4+ miner web configuration page.

I mean exactly like it.
newbie
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January 14, 2018, 10:32:59 AM
I've recently been following this thread to try to find any valid info on the DragonMint.  So far I haven't seen anything extremely convincing that it's for real, however, the fact that Scott Offord is willing to stick his neck out for it in a very public way is courageous (or perhaps foolish).  Hopefully, he's not being manipulated by HalongMining or outright colluding.  What I have a hard time understanding is why no one on this forum, especially the legendaries who have great credibility here i.e. NotFuzzyWarm, will fly to Mr. Offord's home in WI, which he has openly offered, and check out his rig from HalongMining, and write a review here.  Obviously, this wouldn't necessarily be proof of any large scale operation, but it would potentially help relieve some of the doubt that exists around the DragonMint.  I read dimaze's account of his visit, but he's been inactive for 3 years on this forum, so his credibility is limited and exacerbated by the fact that his screen shot is like the Innosilicon A5 interface and he happens to live right there (?friend, ?paid accomplice). I'm sure that if the experts here posted their BTC address for donations for travel expenses, they wouldn't have trouble covering them.  I'd certainly donate for the cause, especially when one has to spend a minimum of 10K for 5 miners. 
copper member
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Clueless!
January 14, 2018, 10:30:41 AM
  Well it exists but in the meantime  I have been mining with other gear I purchased  simply because the builders of this gear do not understand how to treat a customer.




Ok...on your word ...if you say it exists...it exists (ah a fine meal of crow.....yummy.... on my part) Sad

But, again, they still are playing this WAY to coy....so we will see if it is an overpriced (after we have mined the hell out scrypt-pow coins over months) at the end

of life sale....(we've both seen that game...the one the bitmain is playing until its equip ships (march orders) (read the disclaimer they don't have to ship till April

12th...thus a price pump...they can wait and mine longer before shipping imho)

fun times, never a dull moment

to those that bought these you have big ones!

(off to dine on crow...I dine on crow enough it is not a big deal....if you boil the crow with the ramen noodles you have 2 meals in one!)

legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
January 14, 2018, 09:27:45 AM
  Well it exists but in the meantime  I have been mining with other gear I purchased  simply because the builders of this gear do not understand how to treat a customer.

copper member
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Clueless!
January 14, 2018, 08:09:12 AM
Wow... just read all 4,000 pages of this topic and now my head is spinning. What a mind-fu*k.

I guess the only part of this I don't understand, according to @offordscott is that Halong apparently doesn't seek or want any good PR. Or at least the kind this community sees as good. I'm not discounting the article they got. I'm just saying that it seems like it would have been so easy, so fast, to have avoided so much of all of this conflict. Maybe the product is so good, it does't matter. Maybe the LONG wait until March doesn't seem so long to Halong... so the "let the product speak for itself" thing seems like a great idea in their mind. And maybe it is.

But as a longtime CEO and business owner, I cringe at the idea that they didn't take a couple of easy, and very cheap, steps to quash almost ALL of this heartburn and angst right up front.

I haven't been in crypto long enough to have witnessed the scams of days gone by... so all I can do is kick back and watch what happens in March/April. I'm hopeful for everyone who placed orders. And I'm tempted to take up Scott on his offer to swing by and see one in action for myself (assuming that's still a thing).


Yeah...this is the problem with this thread...no REAL proof the product exists....even folk just stumbling into this thread shake their heads on how this has been presented....

so IF the product exists .....and they are soooooo secretive why even have this thread?

on the other hand if a scam or if they plan on mining like hell these units and move some after the fact ...when the difficulty is so high it don't matter

maybe having this thread makes sense (if a scam) of if a fishing expedition on how to move used or excess product past the time it is worth buying

at their mining end game

I see no other real reasons than the above game plans, for their, to say the least. 'weird' way of saying they have a miner rig for sale, coming in March

brad
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January 14, 2018, 03:34:24 AM
Wow... just read all 4,000 pages of this topic and now my head is spinning. What a mind-fu*k.

I guess the only part of this I don't understand, according to @offordscott is that Halong apparently doesn't seek or want any good PR. Or at least the kind this community sees as good. I'm not discounting the article they got. I'm just saying that it seems like it would have been so easy, so fast, to have avoided so much of all of this conflict. Maybe the product is so good, it does't matter. Maybe the LONG wait until March doesn't seem so long to Halong... so the "let the product speak for itself" thing seems like a great idea in their mind. And maybe it is.

But as a longtime CEO and business owner, I cringe at the idea that they didn't take a couple of easy, and very cheap, steps to quash almost ALL of this heartburn and angst right up front.

I haven't been in crypto long enough to have witnessed the scams of days gone by... so all I can do is kick back and watch what happens in March/April. I'm hopeful for everyone who placed orders. And I'm tempted to take up Scott on his offer to swing by and see one in action for myself (assuming that's still a thing).
hero member
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I'm in BTC XTC
January 14, 2018, 03:27:04 AM
Yup, still a bunch of smoke and mirrors, deflection and doublespeak.  QuackQuack, QuackQuack. So scammy it reeks... Tongue
newbie
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January 13, 2018, 09:49:15 PM
A month and a half after a company who's website got registered days before announced a ground breaking product you would think there would be:

1: More videos.
2: Substantial updates to the website
3: A tweet newer than 2 Dec

They plan on mass-producing their DM8575 asic chip an selling it to third-parties, but nobody has seen this chip.  No pictures, no technical specifications, no pin-out diagrams.  Nothing you would need to be able design a new miner based on these chips.

As others have pointed out, the controller board is borrowed.  The main printed circuit board may actually be a prototype, but who's chips are on them?  The video even leaves question as to whether the power reading are real because you can't see if the power cord actually goes from the meter to the unit.

Designing new advanced silicon is difficult and costly.  That's why there's only a small number of big players. Improvements are done incrementally.

legendary
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January 13, 2018, 06:44:25 PM
I can assure you, once the firmware is in production mode, y’all are going to really like it... for more than one reason.

Stop teasing us. We need to wait until end of March to see production units delivered?

A few orders will go out in March. A majority in April.

What is the maximum order # that will go out in March? I want to see if I'm in!

Also will you offer a discount for the ones that pre-order from you?
full member
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January 13, 2018, 05:38:58 PM
I think that the reason they are still using other miners Operating Systems is because their software is not ready yet, you can imagine how scarce Linux devs must be these days considering how everyone just wants to push out a good fat solidity.  Grin
I saw BTCDrak did fork the S9 OS and he is probably working man-alone trying to get this thing ready in time for release so this would also explain the reluctance to allow these things into the wild.
Ironic the times we live in where Engineers are available by the dozen but a REAL dev is hard to come by.

Anyway to be honest I don't give a crap what the user interface looks like, as long as these things hash like the clappers and turn off when they hit 105 degrees.



Pfffffft I feel this is a supposed religious experience. I am supposed to have faith in certain people... F it show me the goods.

when I was a kid..there was an honest to god UFO at sunset in town...it sat there...saucer-shaped with 3 proportionally placed eye-shaped windows...

So for the first 15 min or so ..people could not believe it was a UFO..the last 25 min it sat there people we're trying to figure out the best way to interact with

whatever when it landed (this is Minnesota.....I suspect someone would have offered potluck)..this was adults talking..I was a kid and could listen in...

IT was a weather balloon ....made into the shape of a UFO saucer, buy upper atmosphere winds pulling it into the shape of a saucer

the supposed windows were the USA in large letters on the side (1960's) again proportional

the top and bottom giant letters scrunched up in the saucer shape.....making the perfect eye-shaped windows..damn convincing to a whole town for 40 min so...

my point is a variety of folk can look at something with disbelief....then after a point of time accept it as fact...just to find out it was not factual at all


but anyway, the point is ....even with photo's stuff is not always what it seems....all the info...even compared to the above on this thread is flimsy

but even with a unit demo (like BFL) the particular product may never come to pass on a pre-order....like BFL never shipped in mass ...like KNC miners..who

took the pre-order money, built data halls with it and mined for 4-5 months ..then shipped the pre-oder Neptunes 7-8 months late that never ROI'd

We have dozens of cases of this happening (at least since I got in from 2013 on)


good intentions are great, hope is OK....proof is what is needed...and still...no Unicorn proof that I can tell yet on these miners

hopefuly, the above is a cautionary tale and the stuff exists....but as my UFO example above...sometimes it just ain't so!



Yes, Amen.

Its not proofed scam.
And its not proofed that a delivery will ever happen
And its not proofed that they maybe just assembled 20 testmachines with already known chips to make a -demo show- (UFO) for pre-order needs.
Even if each testmachine would be 10.000 USD - after pre-order they would be fine.

And like said from my very first post in here: We bought 20 to test and we want to support them, but we did not bough 100 or more pcs.
If we loose them its sad, but we dont count with them anyways.
But if we get them we hopefull have another competitor on the market.

I am in contact with Scott and I am waiting for a reply for visiting a testmachine in spain.
Hopefull he will get back to me after weekend.
I will visit this testmachine if possible and hopefull its not the UFO-story Wink


(I know this story, too. Even Matt Groening in his famous "Simpsons" made a story about the fake UFO news from USA. Maybe I am wrong - anyways - fun.)  Grin

full member
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January 13, 2018, 03:34:10 PM
its just scam

Found another seagull -> https://ibb.co/jnqB46

But DragonMint is more real then scam Wink
newbie
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January 12, 2018, 05:54:29 PM
I also hope that the DragonMint it real in the light of SyanMining. What worries me is that they do not provide an address. In the case of SyanMining, I came to Hong Kong to verify the addresses and found it to be a scam very quickly.  If Halong is legit, I think it would be wise, and go a long way provide to assurance to all those that purchased, if they would come out with a physical address or provide another video with a trusted person, even from this group.
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