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this is the point!
I believe the same, it's much better to use your energy constructively in the world than to employ it in a destructive way
after all, some say that there is no bad marketing... even if you bad mouth your competitor this may have the opposite effect of what you expected and blow up in your face, by making their name more available in people's memories, as an example.
Sometimes, some methods of marketing are actually bad strategy most especially in this type of marketing where a competitor tries to discredit the effort of their fellow business colleague all to adopt the clients if their weak devices of bad-mouthing kill their opponent's business.

I have seen a few scenarios play out that way I several times, but I am sure this method can not work on an established platform like Duelbits since the casino already build a good and loyal community for the business over the years and anything negative will take time before it can work and most time they don't work anyway so this marketing strategy is a failed attempt already.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
exactly, specially here in the forum duelbits has so much track record and so many comments of users who are happy with their services that it makes no sense to try to burn their image without proof

I don't know why they keep trying
Most of the casinos face these types of issues where people try to put fake allegations against the team just because they have lost money and then think they can ruin their reputation with these such accusations but forget the casino will have all the vaild proofs against them and they end up gaining nothing out of it at last.
But with Duelbits answering legit issues? addressing if they find it has a valid point? but those fake claims ? there is no need for answer because that is only a waste of time . and also regular players of this site is answering and proving those fake allegations are not true , because who can truly prove the legitimacy of this site? those are the people that already experienced the quality of Duelbits service over the years.
They respond to only those claims which have some evidence to backup not to those each fake claims because if they do so then there would be spam rush with lot of threads from those players who are unable to handle themselves and lost money but would start blaming duelbits or any casino for the same so they don't waste time for these.
At this point, most casino doesn't waste time of claims that are made out of irrelevancy and misinformation this is because on multiple occasions this user have made multiple attackers on reputable casinos and we know some of them are sponsored by competitors which this is a bad marketing strategy.
Because instead employing accounts to attack competitors why not concentrate on building a reputation that can sustainable strategy voids of attacks to competitors, the thing is that casinos will only resolve issues with valid proofs and not just baseless statements.

this is the point!
I believe the same, it's much better to use your energy constructively in the world then to employ it in a destructive way
after all some say that there is no bad marketing... even if you bad mouth your competitor this may have the opposite effect of what you expected and blow up in your face, by making their name more available in people's memories, as an example.
legendary
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With the main leagues stopped, I stopped making sports bets and I left my money that I earned from the bonus on Duelbits and I will only use it to bet when the Premier League or La Liga or Bundesliga or Ligue1 or portuguese league games, that means I will only do it again sports betting in august, I thought about playing casino games like Sweet Bonanz and Gates of Olympus but then I thought: I'm going to lose and so I gave up, I even made some bets on these bad league games, but I just lost and I don't bet on these games anymore of unknown leagues

Hey Slowdeath, a few days ago you posted that you were having login problems, I replied to your post with some ideas on how to solve it, but then I haven't seen any posts from you whether it worked or not, please tell us if you managed to solve the problem and how, so we can better help some user in the future.



About the end of the leagues, I also bet on some leagues that you mentioned, especially the Portuguese, but there are still great options for betting on soccer:
Brazilian Championship, Copa Libertadores will enter the knockout stage, Copa Sulamericana and Women's Club World Cup (starts July 20)  Wink
If you need help, there's threads about all above except Sul Americana
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fact is that for people who only do sports betting, gambling has a certain time of activity and pause, while for people who only play casino games they play every day throughout the year, so I stay wondering if people who play casino games have some time to stop and then play again or if they stay the whole year playing, because from what I can see games like Gates of Olympus are the type of games that are very difficult for people to stop playing for some time, I myself tested playing in the demo and I liked it a lot but I don't put money in these games because they depend on luck and make the person not stop playing
I mostly play slots, but recently I've developed a liking for placing more bets on (e)sports, especially eSports. I do agree that sports betting takes longer since match results can take some time, whereas slots provide results much more quickly, thousands of times faster than sports betting. However, personally, I don't think it's impossible to stop. It is actually quite easy, in my opinion. All you need is a strong dedication to pause or even fully stop.

*But hey, speaking of "full stop", please use it (the period) when you write. I am not an expert, but  a hundred percent it'll help readers to understand the content, IMO. But that is your choice.

What kind of esports you bet on? Around 15 years ago I was a counter-strike fan, but things are more different now. Previously it was like 2-3 top teams and the rest. It wasnt hard to make predictions during preliminary stage. Current esports is completely different. I mean how can I even make a prediction, despite trusting bookie? With strategies it is more or less clear, Asians are like gods there. But how to tell who is stronger in CS:GO or Dota2 ?
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fact is that for people who only do sports betting, gambling has a certain time of activity and pause, while for people who only play casino games they play every day throughout the year, so I stay wondering if people who play casino games have some time to stop and then play again or if they stay the whole year playing, because from what I can see games like Gates of Olympus are the type of games that are very difficult for people to stop playing for some time, I myself tested playing in the demo and I liked it a lot but I don't put money in these games because they depend on luck and make the person not stop playing
I mostly play slots, but recently I've developed a liking for placing more bets on (e)sports, especially eSports. I do agree that sports betting takes longer since match results can take some time, whereas slots provide results much more quickly, thousands of times faster than sports betting. However, personally, I don't think it's impossible to stop. It is actually quite easy, in my opinion. All you need is a strong dedication to pause or even fully stop.

*But hey, speaking of "full stop", please use it (the period) when you write. I am not an expert, but a hundred percent, it'll help readers, IMO. But that is your choice.
legendary
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With the main leagues stopped, I stopped making sports bets and I left my money that I earned from the bonus on Duelbits and I will only use it to bet when the Premier League or La Liga or Bundesliga or Ligue1 or portuguese league games, that means I will only do it again sports betting in august, I thought about playing casino games like Sweet Bonanz and Gates of Olympus but then I thought: I'm going to lose and so I gave up, I even made some bets on these bad league games, but I just lost and I don't bet on these games anymore of unknown leagues

fact is that for people who only do sports betting, gambling has a certain time of activity and pause, while for people who only play casino games they play every day throughout the year, so I stay wondering if people who play casino games have some time to stop and then play again or if they stay the whole year playing, because from what I can see games like Gates of Olympus are the type of games that are very difficult for people to stop playing for some time, I myself tested playing in the demo and I liked it a lot but I don't put money in these games because they depend on luck and make the person not stop playing
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exactly, specially here in the forum duelbits has so much track record and so many comments of users who are happy with their services that it makes no sense to try to burn their image without proof

I don't know why they keep trying
Most of the casinos face these types of issues where people try to put fake allegations against the team just because they have lost money and then think they can ruin their reputation with these such accusations but forget the casino will have all the vaild proofs against them and they end up gaining nothing out of it at last.
But with Duelbits answering legit issues? addressing if they find it has a valid point? but those fake claims ? there is no need for answer because that is only a waste of time . and also regular players of this site is answering and proving those fake allegations are not true , because who can truly prove the legitimacy of this site? those are the people that already experienced the quality of Duelbits service over the years.
They respond to only those claims which have some evidence to backup not to those each fake claims because if they do so then there would be spam rush with lot of threads from those players who are unable to handle themselves and lost money but would start blaming duelbits or any casino for the same so they don't waste time for these.
At this point, most casino doesn't waste time of claims that are made out of irrelevancy and misinformation this is because on multiple occasions this user have made multiple attackers on reputable casinos and we know some of them are sponsored by competitors which this is a bad marketing strategy.
Because instead employing accounts to attack competitors why not concentrate on building a reputation that can sustainable strategy voids of attacks to competitors, the thing is that casinos will only resolve issues with valid proofs and not just baseless statements.
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But in most cases, Livechat is really very helpful for normal user encountering some minor issue on the casino. I think those problematic gamblers that abusing the casino bonus and terms are the only users that find live chat not very helpful at all.
The use of Livechat in each casino aims to help every member who has problems. For me Livechat is very helpful and for casinos with fast Livechat service every member looking for a solution can be a strategy to recruit players indirectly.

For small problems or cases, I am often helped by the Livechat service regarding deposits, withdraw, bonuses.
But beyond my reach if players experience major problems or problems with other intentions.
legendary
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Every casino will get a lot of claims every day but they always need to be checked as some are valid. It can help by posting a topic here if you don't get any more replies from the livechat and there is a representative from Duelbits active on the forum who can always look at the claims and get the issues resolved. Fake claims/reviews are a big problem for a lot of companies but I don't think that this will ever get better.
I think livechat would help everyone one way or another, it would be very unlikely for anyone to end up with no help at all from livechat. The reason why I am saying is that I have been here for a long time and never had a single situation when I didn't get any help from livechat.

Maybe you will not enjoy the answer you got, I can totally understand that because if the response is not what you like then you may not want to accept that and come here and ask the same question here as well, but more likely result will be someone from duelbits giving you the same answer here. I haven't seen a situation that wasn't solved by livechat and already given an answer, and person here giving another answer and solving the situation instead.

It depends on case/issue that you are involved. Live chat is really helpful on issue that involves general issue on the casino such us bonuses, deposit&withdrawal and other account problem but their authority is off limits on security problem especially when your account is flagged by security that result for account freeze. Using live chat on dealing with this kind of issue is irritating since they will just give you same general feedback to wait and be patient since they are not the department dealing with it directly.

But in most cases, Livechat is really very helpful for normal user encountering some minor issue on the casino. I think those problematic gamblers that abusing the casino bonus and terms are the only users that find live chat not very helpful at all.

I have not used Duelbit's live chat service or rather it was never required by me because everything is smooth on the website. I am not sure who does really get the issues and why? It could be that there are peeps who are using the website via VPN and are the top ones who end up using the casino's ticketing system a lot. I mean yes on a regular basis there might be many problems that occur to normal users but with the automation in the script, I don't know why it happens. 
This is the same testimony I have my self, and not duelbits alone, I operate accounts on different casinos and rarely have I ever had to contact any customer care for any case or help.

And I think you are right, cus to me as well, one of the common reasons that causes gamblers to keep encountering problem upon problems is tied to the usage of VPN usage, and other vices that breaks the casino terms of service, if gamblers can learn to play by the rules, pretty sure they will rarely encounter problems that could require them reaching a customer rep for help.
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Every casino will get a lot of claims every day but they always need to be checked as some are valid. It can help by posting a topic here if you don't get any more replies from the livechat and there is a representative from Duelbits active on the forum who can always look at the claims and get the issues resolved. Fake claims/reviews are a big problem for a lot of companies but I don't think that this will ever get better.
I think livechat would help everyone one way or another, it would be very unlikely for anyone to end up with no help at all from livechat. The reason why I am saying is that I have been here for a long time and never had a single situation when I didn't get any help from livechat.

Maybe you will not enjoy the answer you got, I can totally understand that because if the response is not what you like then you may not want to accept that and come here and ask the same question here as well, but more likely result will be someone from duelbits giving you the same answer here. I haven't seen a situation that wasn't solved by livechat and already given an answer, and person here giving another answer and solving the situation instead.

It depends on case/issue that you are involved. Live chat is really helpful on issue that involves general issue on the casino such us bonuses, deposit&withdrawal and other account problem but their authority is off limits on security problem especially when your account is flagged by security that result for account freeze. Using live chat on dealing with this kind of issue is irritating since they will just give you same general feedback to wait and be patient since they are not the department dealing with it directly.

But in most cases, Livechat is really very helpful for normal user encountering some minor issue on the casino. I think those problematic gamblers that abusing the casino bonus and terms are the only users that find live chat not very helpful at all.

I have not used Duelbit's live chat service or rather it was never required by me because everything is smooth on the website. I am not sure who does really get the issues and why? It could be that there are peeps who are using the website via VPN and are the top ones who end up using the casino's ticketing system a lot. I mean yes on a regular basis there might be many problems that occur to normal users but with the automation in the script, I don't know why it happens.

On the other hand, I am not sure how many guys have noticed this but when you are in the live roulette or a few normal roulette games then you can use the built-in helpline system which is insane. It connects you with the service provider. Has anyone noticed this?
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Every casino will get a lot of claims every day but they always need to be checked as some are valid. It can help by posting a topic here if you don't get any more replies from the livechat and there is a representative from Duelbits active on the forum who can always look at the claims and get the issues resolved. Fake claims/reviews are a big problem for a lot of companies but I don't think that this will ever get better.
I think livechat would help everyone one way or another, it would be very unlikely for anyone to end up with no help at all from livechat. The reason why I am saying is that I have been here for a long time and never had a single situation when I didn't get any help from livechat.

Maybe you will not enjoy the answer you got, I can totally understand that because if the response is not what you like then you may not want to accept that and come here and ask the same question here as well, but more likely result will be someone from duelbits giving you the same answer here. I haven't seen a situation that wasn't solved by livechat and already given an answer, and person here giving another answer and solving the situation instead.

It depends on case/issue that you are involved. Live chat is really helpful on issue that involves general issue on the casino such us bonuses, deposit&withdrawal and other account problem but their authority is off limits on security problem especially when your account is flagged by security that result for account freeze. Using live chat on dealing with this kind of issue is irritating since they will just give you same general feedback to wait and be patient since they are not the department dealing with it directly.

But in most cases, Livechat is really very helpful for normal user encountering some minor issue on the casino. I think those problematic gamblers that abusing the casino bonus and terms are the only users that find live chat not very helpful at all.
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Every casino will get a lot of claims every day but they always need to be checked as some are valid. It can help by posting a topic here if you don't get any more replies from the livechat and there is a representative from Duelbits active on the forum who can always look at the claims and get the issues resolved. Fake claims/reviews are a big problem for a lot of companies but I don't think that this will ever get better.
I think livechat would help everyone one way or another, it would be very unlikely for anyone to end up with no help at all from livechat. The reason why I am saying is that I have been here for a long time and never had a single situation when I didn't get any help from livechat.

Maybe you will not enjoy the answer you got, I can totally understand that because if the response is not what you like then you may not want to accept that and come here and ask the same question here as well, but more likely result will be someone from duelbits giving you the same answer here. I haven't seen a situation that wasn't solved by livechat and already given an answer, and person here giving another answer and solving the situation instead.
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And I was quite curious which of the teams playing were actually the favourites, and it turned out that they weren't much different from the senior team because from first to fifth place there were Spain, France, England, Germany and Italy, and then maybe we can use that benchmark even though favorite team will not always win.

England, there's no doubt they can become one of most favorite team because they're very strong in the group phase.

France, their performance were outstanding on the last world cup.

Italy, they were a champion in the last Euro cup.

Netherlands, have a solid squad.

Spain? Germany? both of them are overrated. Spain only have strong midfielders, while Germany their performance were ridiculously bad on the last world cup and recent friendly matches.
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No one knows what's the source of it so trying different solutions will help but I think that it's the first that I've seen do it here or there's already some who did it but it's in the past and I can't remember anymore. But it's no problem now at all as that guy solved it on his own. I just thought that there has something to do with the spelling because with little details that they share, there could be the mistake there and what's good is that we're knowing solutions that's being shared if ever others experience the same thing.
you should not make it an issue because you are both having a point in helping people about some issues accessing the site but it is given that account seems to be in country that restricted the site or at least he can use VPN.
and also he admitted that now there is an access using different browser.
Yep, no biggie at all. The issue has been solved and if anyone who's browsing in the future might just end up with the same problem, he can review it here and hopefully lands on the right page of this thread.

we are all here to help each other as we are all gamblers and wanted to at least win and enjoy and be happy.
Yeah, so for everyone who's enjoying and having a good time have good luck and take your time every game you play here in Duelbits.
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Yes I also have that thought, predicting the junior team is much more difficult than predicting the senior team, and I think we already know that. Experience may be one of the factors why we see a lot like that, when they were young most players were still in passionate feelings, instead I saw that passionate enthusiasm if it couldn't be controlled properly it would have an impact on their quality on the field. It's different from the senior team who already have a lot of experience, and they can already be tested in terms of mentality, so it really influences the game and teamwork.
For junior teams, usually tournamentnets like this will be used as a way to show off their skills to talent scouts so that they will have the opportunity to make their football career shine even more, because of those who play in this tournament maybe only a few percent have played at senior clubs, like in In the English national team, there are Curtis Jones and Harvey Elliot who have played quite often for the Liverpool senior squad
And I was quite curious which of the teams playing were actually the favourites, and it turned out that they weren't much different from the senior team because from first to fifth place there were Spain, France, England, Germany and Italy, and then maybe we can use that benchmark even though favorite team will not always win.

Yep, there are indeed some players who are now quite worth watching and monitoring, especially for talent scouts.
In addition to the names you mentioned, I don't think we can rule out Germany's Moukoko who is now a mainstay of Dortmund or Ryan Gravenberch who is touted as a future Bayern striker.
There's also a new name I'm curious about for England in Levi Colwill, who is currently out of favour at Chelsea but is still doing quite well for a young player.

Although the conditions for the championship are a bit tricky because there will definitely be differences although as you said the favourite team always comes from a country that is quite big in football in the end.
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Just to the notice, I see in the description it is Welcome to the third Event of the $50,000 Duelympic Games.

So have Duelbits divided the 50k pool into 5 different Events or there is something that I missed to see in the past?

Yes the promotion is divided into 5 events, it seems that it is 3 days long per event. Good thing in this promotion is that it is internal promotion for duelbits players only, so it is not like the most other slot promotions where they are global promotions. The scoring system seems to be varies as well (different for each event). This current 3rd event is about losing/winning streak and win multipliers. 50 prizes to grab is a good deal but the minimum bet is just a bit higher for me now as I have reduced my gambling funds a lot in recent years. 
Event for internal player is the advantage that we can get from the duelbs, they prioritize their customers to stay with them, it is a good strategy to increase the loyalty of gamblers.
This event is quite large and certainly lively every event, but a fairly high betting limit makes me hit and think that maybe another time I can participate in an event that has a lower betting limit, if I force it maybe it will destroy my finance, what I Can still eat or not for next week if you pursue this event.

But for those of you who follow this, happy fighting and hopefully the people in this forum will be the winner at the Big Event Duelbs this time.
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Yes I also have that thought, predicting the junior team is much more difficult than predicting the senior team, and I think we already know that. Experience may be one of the factors why we see a lot like that, when they were young most players were still in passionate feelings, instead I saw that passionate enthusiasm if it couldn't be controlled properly it would have an impact on their quality on the field. It's different from the senior team who already have a lot of experience, and they can already be tested in terms of mentality, so it really influences the game and teamwork.
For junior teams, usually tournamentnets like this will be used as a way to show off their skills to talent scouts so that they will have the opportunity to make their football career shine even more, because of those who play in this tournament maybe only a few percent have played at senior clubs, like in In the English national team, there are Curtis Jones and Harvey Elliot who have played quite often for the Liverpool senior squad
And I was quite curious which of the teams playing were actually the favourites, and it turned out that they weren't much different from the senior team because from first to fifth place there were Spain, France, England, Germany and Italy, and then maybe we can use that benchmark even though favorite team will not always win.

I really admit that predicting the junior team in the match is difficult to determine who has a higher probability of victory, the reason is that we do not know the ability of the players in it and or they do not have more flight hours like Paran Senior players, analysis Maybe made an indication is the history of his victory in the round of the match and even then I am also still hesitant in determining it.

Tournaments like this are very crucial for those of the young players to address their abilities on the field, it seems that Spain, England, France and Germany have many good young players, and I think in this tournament many have favored.


I agree on issue that doesn’t valid proof to be ignored but it’s healthy if the casino is very active on dealing issues here to show how responsible they are on protecting their brand especially against those FUD. Having other user protect them while wearing their signature code will just show that users is just being paid that’s why they are doing it even though it’s not what the reality in the eyes of newbie user here that has an issue.
If they start responding to each of those fake claims then there would be problem for them as you would see lot of such topics here on the forum and they have to check for each record with the team so it will waste more time.Moreover the support team is there where you can raise tickets and if not solved can present it here but those who are just trying to defame the casino will do that don't affect their reputation among players who knows about their working.
Every casino will get a lot of claims every day but they always need to be checked as some are valid. It can help by posting a topic here if you don't get any more replies from the livechat and there is a representative from Duelbits active on the forum who can always look at the claims and get the issues resolved. Fake claims/reviews are a big problem for a lot of companies but I don't think that this will ever get better.
False claims are very disturbing in the gambling platform, it will make a confusion, therefore it is important for the team to analyze the problems,
And I don't think it needs to submit it to the team if the evidence is given is just an argument without the basis of the documentation of the problem, I think the team not needs to bother responding because it can also be resolved with many people here that if the argument is empty or not credible.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
exactly, specially here in the forum duelbits has so much track record and so many comments of users who are happy with their services that it makes no sense to try to burn their image without proof

I don't know why they keep trying
Most of the casinos face these types of issues where people try to put fake allegations against the team just because they have lost money and then think they can ruin their reputation with these such accusations but forget the casino will have all the vaild proofs against them and they end up gaining nothing out of it at last.
But with Duelbits answering legit issues? addressing if they find it has a valid point? but those fake claims ? there is no need for answer because that is only a waste of time . and also regular players of this site is answering and proving those fake allegations are not true , because who can truly prove the legitimacy of this site? those are the people that already experienced the quality of Duelbits service over the years.


The bolded part is only applicable for user own experience. We have different experience on every website since we are using the service uniquely based on our gambling habits. So if this users have a good experience doesn’t mean they the right to judge other that has valid concern just because of their own personal experience.

I agree on issue that doesn’t valid proof to be ignored but it’s healthy if the casino is very active on dealing issues here to show how responsible they are on protecting their brand especially against those FUD. Having other user protect them while wearing their signature code will just show that users is just being paid that’s why they are doing it even though it’s not what the reality in the eyes of newbie user here that has an issue.

there are no businesses without issues, it's normal to have problems due to human error, programming logic, unexpected things
for me the thing is trying to avoid problems, of course, but the way you deal with them when they appear will set your company apart from competitors
this is the main point
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I agree on issue that doesn’t valid proof to be ignored but it’s healthy if the casino is very active on dealing issues here to show how responsible they are on protecting their brand especially against those FUD. Having other user protect them while wearing their signature code will just show that users is just being paid that’s why they are doing it even though it’s not what the reality in the eyes of newbie user here that has an issue.
If they start responding to each of those fake claims then there would be problem for them as you would see lot of such topics here on the forum and they have to check for each record with the team so it will waste more time.Moreover the support team is there where you can raise tickets and if not solved can present it here but those who are just trying to defame the casino will do that don't affect their reputation among players who knows about their working.

Every casino will get a lot of claims every day but they always need to be checked as some are valid. It can help by posting a topic here if you don't get any more replies from the livechat and there is a representative from Duelbits active on the forum who can always look at the claims and get the issues resolved. Fake claims/reviews are a big problem for a lot of companies but I don't think that this will ever get better.
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For junior teams, usually tournamentnets like this will be used as a way to show off their skills to talent scouts so that they will have the opportunity to make their football career shine even more, because of those who play in this tournament maybe only a few percent have played at senior clubs, like in In the English national team, there are Curtis Jones and Harvey Elliot who have played quite often for the Liverpool senior squad
And I was quite curious which of the teams playing were actually the favourites, and it turned out that they weren't much different from the senior team because from first to fifth place there were Spain, France, England, Germany and Italy, and then maybe we can use that benchmark even though favorite team will not always win.

I do believe that it is a bit more "unexpected" results because when you are that young (some of them are 21, even 22 because they need to be 21 before they need to register) so it is going to be probably first time they are at this much global event, sure they are football players and a lot of them already making millions, but there are still some who are not that rich, and not that famous, and it is their first time. In that case, we are going to end up with them being a bit more wildcards and you do not know what they did night before, and could end up not being able to play that well.

This is why u21 has been quite tough to bet on most of the time, doesn't mean it is impossible to predict, it is just way too volatile to have a set pick for sure.
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