Topic: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 24. (Read 1058927 times)

We have got an specific proposal from WhiteBIT, for a budget of 2 BTC:


Go go Devcoin!

- develCuy

I'll do some reading into this exchange. I've never heard of them before now but with so many exchanges popping up, that doesn't really mean much. I'm looking forward to seeing how much they want in terms of budget, as I think that will help make a more informed decision (a lot of their coins are very low volume right now).

I bought more than you.  Just saying, being number is what counts.   

But yeah, no reason to delist it given it has pretty regular volume. 

That was me. I bought a lot at a great price (in LTC) compared to BTC (1 satoshi) offerings.

A representative from WhiteBIT is offering a flexible cooperation in order to help us list Devcoin in their platform.

This is the concrete offer in their own language:


I asked them to kindly provide us with some numbers so that we can have an idea of budget. Gathering funds for the minimum budget would be a goal. Btw, I'm still very cautious about listing Devcoin on third party exchanges, since we had way too much bad experiences in the past.

For the reasons above, I ask for your help, all information about WhiteBIT that you can contribute here will be greatly appreciated.

Go go Devcoin!

- develCuy

Nope I had no PM contact with them re delisting, when i asked every time i was told it was through lack of volume, but agreed I thought it was a little strange as yes trade volume on ltc pair seemed higher than others...

Fuzzybear

They said that it's usually more than lack of volume, but they didn't want to disclose it publicly. As far as I know they said they'd speak only with CEO or lead dev with regards to (de)listing.  
But I don't know if anybody actually spoke with them after they made that clarification? Maybe @FuzzyBear exchanged some private messages with them?

Was that really the case?

The ltc/dvc pair were pretty active compared to most coins listed on altilly. I am pretty sure devcoin had more volume then most of their coins when it got delisted without warnings.

Just look at the exchange now. 23 of 29 ltc pairs have 0 trades last 24h. 94 of the btc pairs have 0 trades last 24h.

Actually i'll start with this link to previous post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29680751 (2018) topic of exchanges was discussed and a lot of work was put in back then so worth bringing those learning points up.

So Devcoin is currently listed on FreiExchange here: https://freiexchange.com/market/DVC/BTC

and it was listed with BTC, LTC, USDT and a whole host of other coins on https://www.altilly.com/

But it was delisted from altilly with the reason that there was little to no trade volume. Should not be much work for them to add the coin back but would probably need to chat with the exchange owners to make this happen. They do now have a listing fee also, in the past I got dvc added for free as they were early starting exchange.

With this experience it is only worth an exchange listing dvc if there is any volume.. that means buying as well as selling dvc... and consistently, not just one or two trades and then nothing for weeks and months. The fact that dvc on altilly had pairing with ltc and others and that their exchange is open to trade in fractions of a satoshi against the coin means that as dvc is pegged at 0.00000001 on FRC with over 0.6 btc needed to buy up all the cheapest dvc just to start a buy side support, we need a listing like altilly and not like freiexchange.

The fact that dvc had a listing on altilly and lost it through lack of trading volume was and is so disappointing but in truth probably reflects the market for dvc, very few want to buy it even at such low prices and very few looking to offload any real large amounts unless the price goes up...

Any of those mentioned exchanges that have a listing fee over 0.5btc you can forget about for now as simply where are you getting these funds from? We tried to rally or see if the community would donate but it a lot to ask and no one came forward last time.

Also is this the best use of the BTC to list on an exchange when dvc was listed and has been de-listed what is stopping it being delisted and then that btc is gone and wasted. Might be better to use that btc to rally the current price listing on freiexchange.

I have been here before, and found te best way to get listed is to find a small exchange that is starting up and get dvc listed for free like on altilly after speaking with the people that run it. This is a much better way to get listed and cost nothing as they looking to try adding new coins but you run the risk as the exchange is new and possible scam etc so you have to do the leg work and get to know the people running the exchange and open a dialog up with them.

dvc getting listing on altilly
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49030420
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43852058
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43851429

CTYA was the one who did a huge amount to effort to get exchanges to list dvc and wrote the code to get DVC listing the other good way to get a listing
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39459520
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30654620
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30155942

Fuzzybear

If I could list devcoin on a new exchange I would choose TradeOgre. No kyc. Ltc and btc markets. Look at Coin Listing at the bottom of the page to fill out application.

https://tradeogre.com/

This is a pretty good breakdown! Have you also considered YoBit.io?

"this year we started to get some attention back from different exchanges..."

Read more:

https://steempeak.com/devcoin/@devcoin/exchanges-interested-on-listing-devcoin-july-2020

https://peakd.com/@devcoin/exchanges-interested-on-listing-devcoin-july-2020

Go go Devcoin!

- develCuy

Thank you too EDD. The many exact dates you have given out the past 2 years have made me rich.  Gracias! 

No problemo

Hey Dan! Thank you for this guide! I was successfully able to trade a very little amount of DVCs as test! Nice!

The 14 GFC shares are in a "DeVCoin Foundation" account on HORIZON, NHZ-M58F-Y78J-4DA6-75UUA

The "DVC Holdings" account on HORIZON, NHZ-YC2W-ZDCP-NS4G-4CEGK, is the "treasury" the Galactic Milieu uses to compute the value of a DeVCoin.

The current relative values of other things in terms of DeVCoins is at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/latestrates.inc

Other tables of values are linked to menu at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html including historical values from previous "Latest Rates include file"s.

Lists of assets on HORIZON and STELLAR platforms are at http://makemoney.knotwork.com/

It is worth mentioning that the "treasuries" are not comprehensive collections of all of a currency's assets; they typically also have at least one "slush fund" if only as a place to keep any of their own coin they have on hand, and many also have units of the abstract economy units used in the Galactic Milieu as abstractions of small, medium and large businesses.

Plus of course the GHC asset, General Hosting Corp aka General Holding Corp, can only be held by FreeCiv civilisations so is not implemented as assets on HORIZON nor STELLAR but nonetheless is added into the treasuries for purposes of the value calculations. DVC will need some of those in order to start up a FreeCiv civilisation as not only do you have to be a civilisation to hold them you also have to hold them to become a civilisation. The ideal is that you hold enough of them that their increase in value as you pay civilisation-hosting fees offsets those fees so that they hopefully amount more to a kind of savings, saved within the value of the GHC shares you hold, than an actual fee in effect. Although as and when GHC does incur hostings costs those will eat slightly into the accumulated funds, it is expected the value will grow for some time since the fees are based on the idea we will eventually have total immersion 3-D virtual reality representations of all the civilisations so the fees are intended to be enough to represent all the "square miles" your civilisation controls according to FreeCiv in something along the lines of Open Simulator or other free open source virtual-reality system.

Basically you ideally want to own at least as large a fraction of GHC's shares as you control of the total "square miles" controlled by civilisations on all the FreeCiv planets.

The steps from FreeCiv scale maps to immersive virtual reality are intended to include Crossfire RPG maps of FreeCiv tiles that contain cities or units first, then eventually Crossfire RPG (2-D tiles on individual-character scale) of entire FreeCiv planets, then some kind of terrain drawing algoritmm to make 3-D immersive versions of all that Crossfire RPG territory.

Last time I checked the civilisation hosting only amounted to maybe about (monthly in real Earth-months) CAD$3.50 for a single-city initial civilisation up to over CAD$14000 for a large civilisation such as the Brits of the planet known as B29 or the Canucks of the planet C29. So it can get quite expensive for large civilisations which is part of giving them incentives to be active in the Crossfire RPG and CoffeeMUD MUD layers to help exploit their territory more fully.

-MarkM-

P.S. Also there is a handy tool online for calculating stuff from the Latest Rates data: https://latestrates.traxo.me/

I'm pleased to announce that today the Devcoin Foundation (DF) went to a happy agreement with @knotwork (MarkM) for investing on the Galactic Milieu.

For the record, we had a public discussion regarding what is the best use for the Devcoin coins being accumulated in the OpenSource Fund, Exchange Fund and friends. The chosen proposal is to invest the funds, rather than just holding, "burning" coins, or destroying tokens. The new strategy is to keep sell orders just high enough to influence an up trend market demand for DVC tokens on the Stellar DEX. Also, we are releasing new tokens on-demand, not at fixed amounts on schedule as the Devcoin blockchain does. All with the beauty of transparency! You can now track offers, buys, sells and other DF operations on stellar platform.

This is the actual deal with MarkM:

The DF buys 48223405.9792109 Devcoin stellar tokens (DVC tokens) and 14 General Financial Corp shares (GFC in HORIZON), all for 100'000'000.00 (100 million) Devcoin coins (DVC coins) plus 1664.00 DVC coins in transaction fees. Paid with Devcoin coins from the Exchange Fund.

NOTE: MarkM increased total supply of DVC tokens from 100 million to 150 million.

- Devcoin blockchain transactions: a3849df12e82b0343b3ce30f6a6be5a0e5985fdd9002609ff8a98fd2c9fd34ea, 177fbde2946205aac072664ac2fe439a63e5e45e44962825415efd740842fd9d, 208d38d8e75644b194efa548a9608fa5f763190b127c37e489bdfd4b89e30e43 and 947bb6c0a291ca5deb44d4b28da5a8bc82a9e11963704e2d2e2ea4b7312600ba
- Stellar blockchain operations:  130857916818341889 and 130858415034560513
- Horizon blockchain transactions: (pending)

The challenge now is to heat up the Stellar DEX with decent trading volume! Something we can only achieve as a community, as a team.

Go go Devcoin!

- develCuy

Done develCuy! 

Please help with a retweet: https://twitter.com/TheDevcoin/status/1278563459924459521

Oh i see, i think it is not because it was censored but the market of DevCoin is definitely dead or CMC has no record of trade for this coin for long time ago, But as far as i know if one's coin has no trading volume for long CMC delisted it in their system.