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legendary
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DVCBank keeps saying access denied, I registered yesterday after you posted the link.

Coinpayments offers devcoin... I thought that was the one we would use.

I don't recall having seen prior to your above post any confirmation here that your username over there is the same person who uses that username here, so do not recall having upgraded that user over there to full member. I can go do that now...

...Which reminds me that Cyclos supports websites being able to sell stuff for its currencies. So maybe we can make its payment provider service work with the Ashop system so that paying using DVCbank can be one of the payment options for the penny auctions...

Could be worth a bounty, even, for some skillfull programmer?

Hmm, y'know, I do not actually see you over on the Cyclos site neither as an inactive member (the default that peopel start as) nor as a full member (which is the category I upgrade them to once I confirm who they are).

Oops, reading backscroll I see you didn't use same username. Ok I will check for jags then.

Hmm maybe confirm email too since assuming if email doesn't work that username here would work won't do the trick should an admin end up needign to contact you for any reason.

-MarkM-
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
DVCBank keeps saying access denied, I registered yesterday after you posted the link. (my user name is jags)

Coinpayments offers devcoin... I thought that was the one we would use.

I would like more details of what the current code features... maybe admin access to see what we can do?
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
It takes you to index.php now because I beat you to the install script.

The install script is install.php but maybe does not need deleting for security purposes like in some pages, since now that I have already run the install it now demands the admin password instead of being left wide open.

I think if we want to use this thing we need to convince one or more of the cryptocoin payment gateway services to support it.

It has a huge list of payment methods you can use, but none of the cryptocoin ones seem to be on the list yet.

Since we want to use DeVCoins, we should approach whichever cryptocoin pyment gateway services support DeVCoins.

However it would certainly do no harm for all of the cryptocoin payment services to get themselves added into this thing's list of supported payment methods.

Right now about the only no-chargebacks-possible payment method I see there is manual payment, along the lines of "send us a cheque" or "some to this thread and communite with an admin to send the admin some DeVCoins" or whatever.

Also, when you click on items it tries to take you to a page about that item, which page does not exist.

I tried to use their page manager and tell it to generate the pages but evidently that is not resulting in generated pages.

It is true that this is just a test so far, because it is on a shared hosting site where I put web stuff.

I have not yet set up any webservers on any of my dedicated servers because until now there I had no web based app that would use so myuch traffic that this little shares hosting account would not be able to handle.

If we can get a lot of users, so many that this shared hosting would not be able to handle the load, then it can be moved to another hostname on a dedicated server.

(This hostname and domain name belong to the hosting company, they have a bunch of domaisn they let users create hosts on and the onlinewebshop domain seemed the most appropriate of them for this particular app.)

This thing does regular auctions and regular just plain selling of stuff as well as penny auctions.

Where it starts to cost is if you want for example the back office thing for your staff to use to handle all the dealing with vendors and so on, stuff like that.

It seems actually a very good system so probably should be well worth any cryptocoin payment service provider's while to get integrated into it.

It was easy to set up the existing sample items that came with it as penny auctions but where I am running into problems is how are people going to pay when buying bundles of bids and how do I get the darn product-pages to work, They are page not found right now. Also without those per product pages it is not even clear how to get an item into your shopping cart.

-MarkM-
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
I am setting up a penny auction site at http://pennyauction.onlinewebshop.net so we can take a look at it and see whether it will suit our purposes and figure out what would need to be done to it if anything to make it more suitable for us than it is when it comes out of the box.

I see one nasty thing about it right away:

Anyone could drop by right now and configure it, they are being sent directly to the configure script so they don't even need to go find the source code and look up what the install script would be called and where it would be hidden in order to check whether I had gotten around to removing it yet.

So by the time I have the database set up and all the php files uploaded someone else could easily have come along and told it some database on a machine of theres to run on, then gone on to do gosh knows what other configuring of it.

So far I haven't seen any instructions like "make sure to set your own browser's IP address in such and such a file before uploading it, so that the install script can only be run from the browser you are at..." nor "set a password in such and such a file before uploading it, to restrict who can use the install script to people who know the password you specified."

-MarkM-


Heh seems like a test project. But we would have to add that to ensure that anyone taking a copy of it wouldn't fall in such an unfortunate incident. Where is the install script? I went to the site and it takes me to index.php.
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
That rescan IS a running again of the client.

It IS the client. So don't run another copy of the client after doing it with -rescan, just continue along with the copy that you started with the -rescan.

(Otr, kill that oen first if you do want to start another such as if you don't want to tie up a text terminal/window for it to stay running in.)

Also, kill the existing copy before running a copy with the -rescan, two copies both trying to access the same data directory is not good.

-MarkM-


Ok, thanks!

Did you try the rescan, it should show up right away? I would like to you to try it again after that, to see if maybe it was a freak incident or if there is more involved maybe with the size of transaction.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
I am setting up a penny auction site at http://pennyauction.onlinewebshop.net so we can take a look at it and see whether it will suit our purposes and figure out what would need to be done to it if anything to make it more suitable for us than it is when it comes out of the box.

I see one nasty thing about it right away:

Anyone could drop by right now and configure it, they are being sent directly to the configure script so they don't even need to go find the source code and look up what the install script would be called and where it would be hidden in order to check whether I had gotten around to removing it yet.

So by the time I have the database set up and all the php files uploaded someone else could easily have come along and told it some database on a machine of theres to run on, then gone on to do gosh knows what other configuring of it.

So far I haven't seen any instructions like "make sure to set your own browser's IP address in such and such a file before uploading it, so that the install script can only be run from the browser you are at..." nor "set a password in such and such a file before uploading it, to restrict who can use the install script to people who know the password you specified."

-MarkM-
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1005
That rescan IS a running again of the client.

It IS the client. So don't run another copy of the client after doing it with -rescan, just continue along with the copy that you started with the -rescan.

(Otr, kill that oen first if you do want to start another such as if you don't want to tie up a text terminal/window for it to stay running in.)

Also, kill the existing copy before running a copy with the -rescan, two copies both trying to access the same data directory is not good.

-MarkM-


Ok, thanks!
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1005
I am using the latest sourceforge wallet version, and the tx does not show up on the blockchain.

My balance is right except for the transaction which took away 10 mil.

Any suggestions?
Is something wrong with your system time? '1/2/2014' doesn't make sense whatever way round you look at it, if you're saying it's been 3 days.

Bitcoin-qt's limit is 3 days of no confirms before it goes back into your spendable balance. It has been 21 days.  (I'm in the US, we write dates funny, right?  Smiley)
member
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Merit: 10
I see that there is a current user on Devtome that is doing League of Legends guides.
I am not like this person, his guides are copied and pasted over and over with very little actual information or depth.

I do not like it at all that he is taking advantage of devtome and i assure you my guides will be quality, lengthy, and very in depth.

I want to help people become better players, not take advantage of devtome. I really suggest removing that toxic user and his so-called "guides".

Anybody can use copy and paste.
I was thinking of doing guides as well... Is his work really plagiarized?
-AM

they arent exactly "plagiarized, however, he seems to copy and paste his same guide with different pictures relative to the champion.
here are some examples
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=jayce_top_guide
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=orianna_middle_guide
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=fiddlesticks_jungle_guide

i cant find any more on the main page and i am still new so i cant navigate very well. However, in the vast majority of his guides there is basically the skills, and some flavor text.
for example, in every "mid" guide he posts you can find these 2 lines EXACTLY
Flash: Is ok. You can also tweak it with ghost if you want.
Ignite: Standard boost/finish for AP mages. You better take at least one ignite per team the healing reduction is so useful.

you will find that EXACT text for every mid guide, with a little info on each skill. Its disgusting.

This is what I hate.. ppl trying to game the system.. prob for thousands $ u think this guy wouldnt be dumping his dvc at market?

Agreed, there are others doing it too...

Please eloborate.. youve said this twice now with no proof... is it you Smiley

I have brought one up to UTB, but haven't heard anything yet. I am not going to post it on a public board though. And no it isn't me Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
what creates a rise in price is scarcity. Demand over supply. I see the case for it as more and more ppl are writing the % of those selling ppl who earn falls and creates an incentive for price to rise. As more stuff gets published real value is applied to the project and you see a recipe for growth. When people start getting involved in the bounties as price is rising or is stable you can see how it would blossom. Its wishful thinking probably but
I see that the fact that the 80k word dumpers we have recently will not have so much selling power as time goes on.

If writers drop off then price would probably follow.


Yes right now demand outstrips supply regardless of devtome because of volume in exchanges but it would be better if there were more writers providing quality content.. one way to ensure quality content is what markm said about writing what had been requested by someone else. This way they get paid for writing stuff someone wants to read and is willing to pay small fee for. This will drive reading traffic and this ad revenue. The end goal is for devtome to not only sustain itself financially but give back by providing profits from ads and buy dvc at market with that profit.
hero member
Activity: 720
Merit: 500
thank you for addressing my concerns!
i am just worried that people are taking advantage of devcoin.
Cheers for highlighting concerns. The more people that do this the better for everyone.
hero member
Activity: 779
Merit: 500
they arent exactly "plagiarized, however, he seems to copy and paste his same guide with different pictures relative to the champion.
here are some examples
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=jayce_top_guide
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=orianna_middle_guide
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=fiddlesticks_jungle_guide

i cant find any more on the main page and i am still new so i cant navigate very well. However, in the vast majority of his guides there is basically the skills, and some flavor text.
for example, in every "mid" guide he posts you can find these 2 lines EXACTLY
Flash: Is ok. You can also tweak it with ghost if you want.
Ignite: Standard boost/finish for AP mages. You better take at least one ignite per team the healing reduction is so useful.

you will find that EXACT text for every mid guide, with a little info on each skill. Its disgusting.
On those guides:
1) It's certainly a template, but that doesn't make it plagiarism.
2) This writer has been completely open about what he's doing and asking whether repetition or template is allowed for the purpose of explanations - finding the best way to do it is ongoing.
3) The plan was to have a top-page and series of sub pages with references to avoid duplication.
4) I haven't had time to revist this recently due to other issues and pure plagiarism in other articles, but will do.

thank you for addressing my concerns!
i am just worried that people are taking advantage of devcoin.
hero member
Activity: 720
Merit: 500
they arent exactly "plagiarized, however, he seems to copy and paste his same guide with different pictures relative to the champion.
here are some examples
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=jayce_top_guide
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=orianna_middle_guide
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=fiddlesticks_jungle_guide

i cant find any more on the main page and i am still new so i cant navigate very well. However, in the vast majority of his guides there is basically the skills, and some flavor text.
for example, in every "mid" guide he posts you can find these 2 lines EXACTLY
Flash: Is ok. You can also tweak it with ghost if you want.
Ignite: Standard boost/finish for AP mages. You better take at least one ignite per team the healing reduction is so useful.

you will find that EXACT text for every mid guide, with a little info on each skill. Its disgusting.
On those guides:
1) It's certainly a template, but that doesn't make it plagiarism.
2) This writer has been completely open about what he's doing and asking whether repetition or template is allowed for the purpose of explanations - finding the best way to do it is ongoing.
3) The plan was to have a top-page and series of sub pages with references to avoid duplication.
4) I haven't had time to revist this recently due to other issues and pure plagiarism in other articles, but will do.
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
what creates a rise in price is scarcity. Demand over supply. I see the case for it as more and more ppl are writing the % of those selling ppl who earn falls and creates an incentive for price to rise. As more stuff gets published real value is applied to the project and you see a recipe for growth. When people start getting involved in the bounties as price is rising or is stable you can see how it would blossom. Its wishful thinking probably but
I see that the fact that the 80k word dumpers we have recently will not have so much selling power as time goes on.

If writers drop off then price would probably follow.
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
I see that there is a current user on Devtome that is doing League of Legends guides.
I am not like this person, his guides are copied and pasted over and over with very little actual information or depth.

I do not like it at all that he is taking advantage of devtome and i assure you my guides will be quality, lengthy, and very in depth.

I want to help people become better players, not take advantage of devtome. I really suggest removing that toxic user and his so-called "guides".

Anybody can use copy and paste.
I was thinking of doing guides as well... Is his work really plagiarized?
-AM

they arent exactly "plagiarized, however, he seems to copy and paste his same guide with different pictures relative to the champion.
here are some examples
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=jayce_top_guide
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=orianna_middle_guide
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=fiddlesticks_jungle_guide

i cant find any more on the main page and i am still new so i cant navigate very well. However, in the vast majority of his guides there is basically the skills, and some flavor text.
for example, in every "mid" guide he posts you can find these 2 lines EXACTLY
Flash: Is ok. You can also tweak it with ghost if you want.
Ignite: Standard boost/finish for AP mages. You better take at least one ignite per team the healing reduction is so useful.

you will find that EXACT text for every mid guide, with a little info on each skill. Its disgusting.

This is what I hate.. ppl trying to game the system.. prob for thousands $ u think this guy wouldnt be dumping his dvc at market?

Agreed, there are others doing it too...

Please eloborate.. youve said this twice now with no proof... is it you Smiley
full member
Activity: 166
Merit: 100
I know it's safe but my issue is with stopping eset from quarantining it. Even if I turn it off it will still flag it later on scan. How can I whitelist it?

Tried your link too, got flagged on download.
I don't know, but like a lot of new software until it's more ubiquitous AV's may flag it. I didn't receive any quarantine msg but think I did initially have to permit it to run (same with some other clients) until I guess enough users of my AV were also running the .exe. I don't use eset but would assume there's an excluded processes section or similar which gives you an override option. edit: http://www.eset.sg/html/171/779

would the live ubuntu cd process described below work with the devcoin client

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/howto-create-a-100-secure-wallet-17240
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
I see that there is a current user on Devtome that is doing League of Legends guides.
I am not like this person, his guides are copied and pasted over and over with very little actual information or depth.

I do not like it at all that he is taking advantage of devtome and i assure you my guides will be quality, lengthy, and very in depth.

I want to help people become better players, not take advantage of devtome. I really suggest removing that toxic user and his so-called "guides".

Anybody can use copy and paste.
I was thinking of doing guides as well... Is his work really plagiarized?
-AM

they arent exactly "plagiarized, however, he seems to copy and paste his same guide with different pictures relative to the champion.
here are some examples
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=jayce_top_guide
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=orianna_middle_guide
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=fiddlesticks_jungle_guide

i cant find any more on the main page and i am still new so i cant navigate very well. However, in the vast majority of his guides there is basically the skills, and some flavor text.
for example, in every "mid" guide he posts you can find these 2 lines EXACTLY
Flash: Is ok. You can also tweak it with ghost if you want.
Ignite: Standard boost/finish for AP mages. You better take at least one ignite per team the healing reduction is so useful.

you will find that EXACT text for every mid guide, with a little info on each skill. Its disgusting.

This is what I hate.. ppl trying to game the system.. prob for thousands $ u think this guy wouldnt be dumping his dvc at market?

Agreed, there are others doing it too...
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
I see that there is a current user on Devtome that is doing League of Legends guides.
I am not like this person, his guides are copied and pasted over and over with very little actual information or depth.

I do not like it at all that he is taking advantage of devtome and i assure you my guides will be quality, lengthy, and very in depth.

I want to help people become better players, not take advantage of devtome. I really suggest removing that toxic user and his so-called "guides".

Anybody can use copy and paste.
I was thinking of doing guides as well... Is his work really plagiarized?
-AM

they arent exactly "plagiarized, however, he seems to copy and paste his same guide with different pictures relative to the champion.
here are some examples
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=jayce_top_guide
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=orianna_middle_guide
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=fiddlesticks_jungle_guide

i cant find any more on the main page and i am still new so i cant navigate very well. However, in the vast majority of his guides there is basically the skills, and some flavor text.
for example, in every "mid" guide he posts you can find these 2 lines EXACTLY
Flash: Is ok. You can also tweak it with ghost if you want.
Ignite: Standard boost/finish for AP mages. You better take at least one ignite per team the healing reduction is so useful.

you will find that EXACT text for every mid guide, with a little info on each skill. Its disgusting.

This is what I hate.. ppl trying to game the system.. prob for thousands $ u think this guy wouldnt be dumping his dvc at market?
member
Activity: 65
Merit: 10
I have created categories for Free Open Source and for Proprietary, that seems a more useful distinction.

-MarkM-

Good move.

ThinkI
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
On that analysis most of the scientific knowledge of mankind is fiction. Very useful fiction, but fiction all the same.
In any case, if its going to cause problems then, lets stick to writing and skip the Fiction/Non-fiction distinction.

A lot of the writing about it though is factual accounts of what scientists did and said.

Or purportedly at least approximately factual, anyway. Newton's purported apple might be a myth or legend but that he came up with a theory about gravity seems likely to be true. Unless he stole someone else's idea...

So maybe you start to see why fact versus fiction is a can of worms we might be better off not getting into.

-MarkM-
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