Topic: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 220. (Read 1059181 times)

Heh yea it has been easy so far but remmeber that bounty proposal was for all the work involved including getting the stuff you need to buy and put on the site, and insuring the dropshipping stuff is in place... aswell as coinpayments aswell as changing the theme and any other small changes before the site is operational.. not to forget initial marketing.. I think the development part is easier than we thought however! Thats great... I've been using ICPennyBid and its pretty nice to use, functional, all the pages work. You can see in realtime your bid, and your balance of bids decreasing... and see a history of all bidders for the item (last 10 or so bids)... so I will grab the source for it and put it on my github... mark maybe put it up on your hosting next to the current one so everyone can compare interfaces?

The ebay guy emailed me back saying there are bugs in the source and to look elsewhere, however the interface is pretty friggen sweet so I asked him to partner up and release it open source to the benefit of all. See what he says.

Thanks I upgraded both but with different notes. I just am not sure how convenient the notes from time of original confirmation will end up being to admins who later try to contact people.

Oh and to who-ever thought setting up a penny auction script would be worth 45 shares you are crazy, this has been easy so far, probably even easier than writing a thousand words.

-MarkM-

There are alot of backend features that would be useful, that ICPennyBid does I believe... thats why I wanted to see the backend to compare. Yea I saw that Ashop offers normal shopping too... I wanted to compare them.

http://www.opensourcescripts.com/info/icpennybid---penny-auction-software-script.html is a full list of features for it...  I couldnt find the same for Ashop, so I wanted to look at the admin panel.

I reregistered to dvcbank as a different email but same username as here.

Does this ICPenny only do penny auctions?

Or, like Ashop, does it also do normal shopping and normal auctions?

This Ashop seems pretty full-featured... It can also integrate with your ebay shop and various other third party things like forums and gosh knows what else.

But hey if you want to set up a ICPenny site fine, once you put the source on github or whatever so we can all grab it we can all check it out too, give it a whirl, and see which has what features and all that.

-MarkM-

So I contacted the owner of http://www.icloudcenter.net/demos/ICPenny/

which is a pretty nice demo for what we need with most of the features, except the coinpayments gateway.

I tried to convince him to jump on board with devcoin and get paid for work but he seemed to only consider fiat upfront payments for work , even though it is probably more lucrative for him to get paid as a devcoin developer. In any case, we are assured that it is open source and once we purchase it for $109 we are free to use it as we please as open source ofcourse.

I don't recall having seen prior to your above post any confirmation here that your username over there is the same person who uses that username here, so do not recall having upgraded that user over there to full member. I can go do that now...

...Which reminds me that Cyclos supports websites being able to sell stuff for its currencies. So maybe we can make its payment provider service work with the Ashop system so that paying using DVCbank can be one of the payment options for the penny auctions...

Could be worth a bounty, even, for some skillfull programmer?

Hmm, y'know, I do not actually see you over on the Cyclos site neither as an inactive member (the default that peopel start as) nor as a full member (which is the category I upgrade them to once I confirm who they are).

Oops, reading backscroll I see you didn't use same username. Ok I will check for jags then.

Hmm maybe confirm email too since assuming if email doesn't work that username here would work won't do the trick should an admin end up needign to contact you for any reason.

-MarkM-

DVCBank keeps saying access denied, I registered yesterday after you posted the link. (my user name is jags)

Coinpayments offers devcoin... I thought that was the one we would use.

I would like more details of what the current code features... maybe admin access to see what we can do?

It takes you to index.php now because I beat you to the install script.

The install script is install.php but maybe does not need deleting for security purposes like in some pages, since now that I have already run the install it now demands the admin password instead of being left wide open.

I think if we want to use this thing we need to convince one or more of the cryptocoin payment gateway services to support it.

It has a huge list of payment methods you can use, but none of the cryptocoin ones seem to be on the list yet.

Since we want to use DeVCoins, we should approach whichever cryptocoin pyment gateway services support DeVCoins.

However it would certainly do no harm for all of the cryptocoin payment services to get themselves added into this thing's list of supported payment methods.

Right now about the only no-chargebacks-possible payment method I see there is manual payment, along the lines of "send us a cheque" or "some to this thread and communite with an admin to send the admin some DeVCoins" or whatever.

Also, when you click on items it tries to take you to a page about that item, which page does not exist.

I tried to use their page manager and tell it to generate the pages but evidently that is not resulting in generated pages.

It is true that this is just a test so far, because it is on a shared hosting site where I put web stuff.

I have not yet set up any webservers on any of my dedicated servers because until now there I had no web based app that would use so myuch traffic that this little shares hosting account would not be able to handle.

If we can get a lot of users, so many that this shared hosting would not be able to handle the load, then it can be moved to another hostname on a dedicated server.

(This hostname and domain name belong to the hosting company, they have a bunch of domaisn they let users create hosts on and the onlinewebshop domain seemed the most appropriate of them for this particular app.)

This thing does regular auctions and regular just plain selling of stuff as well as penny auctions.

Where it starts to cost is if you want for example the back office thing for your staff to use to handle all the dealing with vendors and so on, stuff like that.

It seems actually a very good system so probably should be well worth any cryptocoin payment service provider's while to get integrated into it.

It was easy to set up the existing sample items that came with it as penny auctions but where I am running into problems is how are people going to pay when buying bundles of bids and how do I get the darn product-pages to work, They are page not found right now. Also without those per product pages it is not even clear how to get an item into your shopping cart.

-MarkM-

Heh seems like a test project. But we would have to add that to ensure that anyone taking a copy of it wouldn't fall in such an unfortunate incident. Where is the install script? I went to the site and it takes me to index.php.

Did you try the rescan, it should show up right away? I would like to you to try it again after that, to see if maybe it was a freak incident or if there is more involved maybe with the size of transaction.

I am setting up a penny auction site at http://pennyauction.onlinewebshop.net so we can take a look at it and see whether it will suit our purposes and figure out what would need to be done to it if anything to make it more suitable for us than it is when it comes out of the box.

I see one nasty thing about it right away:

Anyone could drop by right now and configure it, they are being sent directly to the configure script so they don't even need to go find the source code and look up what the install script would be called and where it would be hidden in order to check whether I had gotten around to removing it yet.

So by the time I have the database set up and all the php files uploaded someone else could easily have come along and told it some database on a machine of theres to run on, then gone on to do gosh knows what other configuring of it.

So far I haven't seen any instructions like "make sure to set your own browser's IP address in such and such a file before uploading it, so that the install script can only be run from the browser you are at..." nor "set a password in such and such a file before uploading it, to restrict who can use the install script to people who know the password you specified."

-MarkM-

Ok, thanks!

Bitcoin-qt's limit is 3 days of no confirms before it goes back into your spendable balance. It has been 21 days.  (I'm in the US, we write dates funny, right?  )

I have brought one up to UTB, but haven't heard anything yet. I am not going to post it on a public board though. And no it isn't me

Yes right now demand outstrips supply regardless of devtome because of volume in exchanges but it would be better if there were more writers providing quality content.. one way to ensure quality content is what markm said about writing what had been requested by someone else. This way they get paid for writing stuff someone wants to read and is willing to pay small fee for. This will drive reading traffic and this ad revenue. The end goal is for devtome to not only sustain itself financially but give back by providing profits from ads and buy dvc at market with that profit.

Cheers for highlighting concerns. The more people that do this the better for everyone.

thank you for addressing my concerns!
i am just worried that people are taking advantage of devcoin.

On those guides:
1) It's certainly a template, but that doesn't make it plagiarism.
2) This writer has been completely open about what he's doing and asking whether repetition or template is allowed for the purpose of explanations - finding the best way to do it is ongoing.
3) The plan was to have a top-page and series of sub pages with references to avoid duplication.
4) I haven't had time to revist this recently due to other issues and pure plagiarism in other articles, but will do.

what creates a rise in price is scarcity. Demand over supply. I see the case for it as more and more ppl are writing the % of those selling ppl who earn falls and creates an incentive for price to rise. As more stuff gets published real value is applied to the project and you see a recipe for growth. When people start getting involved in the bounties as price is rising or is stable you can see how it would blossom. Its wishful thinking probably but
I see that the fact that the 80k word dumpers we have recently will not have so much selling power as time goes on.

If writers drop off then price would probably follow.

Please eloborate.. youve said this twice now with no proof... is it you