Topic: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 221. (Read 1059181 times)

would the live ubuntu cd process described below work with the devcoin client

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/howto-create-a-100-secure-wallet-17240

Agreed, there are others doing it too...

This is what I hate.. ppl trying to game the system.. prob for thousands $ u think this guy wouldnt be dumping his dvc at market?

Good move.

ThinkI

A lot of the writing about it though is factual accounts of what scientists did and said.

Or purportedly at least approximately factual, anyway. Newton's purported apple might be a myth or legend but that he came up with a theory about gravity seems likely to be true. Unless he stole someone else's idea...

So maybe you start to see why fact versus fiction is a can of worms we might be better off not getting into.

-MarkM-

I have created categories for Free Open Source and for Proprietary, that seems a more useful distinction.

-MarkM-

On that analysis most of the scientific knowledge of mankind is fiction. Very useful fiction, but fiction all the same.
In any case, if its going to cause problems then, lets stick to writing and skip the Fiction/Non-fiction distinction.

ThinkI

Still over thinking it :-p

I'm glad you found it useful, makes it worth the effort.
But really for that link to be worth anything you have to contribute to threads that talk about other coins. Spread the word

ThinkI

Re over-thinking it:

Not at all. On the contrary, maybe others are under-thinking it.

A science article that contains false statements of fact is thereby fictional.

Also, writing lies and writing truths both require the same writing skills, it is only the journalistic/research skills or application of those skills that differ.

Given the fictional facts or the nonfictional facts, writing about them is still just writing about them.

So maybe a better distinction would be reporting versus coming up with ideas / facts / topics to report.

So the distinction isn't really in the writing, it is in who you interview or what source material you consult in order to come up with the "facts" (or fictions) that you are to write about.

Also a factual account of what actually happened on a fictional planet, or in the Oz that Dorothy visited, etcetera, is different from a fictional account of what happened there.

A factual account of what happened to Dorothy in Oz is maybe something along the lines of a precis or summary or re-write of what happened to Dorothy in Oz.

A fictional account of what happened to Dorothy in Oz is maybe a new Oz book, a whole new adventure, Dorothy's adventures in Oz being continued or extended by a new author, which only becomes "factual" if it becomes "canon".

-MarkM-

I like Mark's perspective - keeps me firmly grounded in reality

Now you're over thinking it

It doesn't seem to have sub-categories.

Each category has a parent, but i do not seem to be able to change the parent from "Main category" to, e.g., "Products" or "Services"...

Oops never mind, I found out how to do it...

Trying to separate fiction from non-fiction is I think too awkward to attempt, because a large part (or what used once upon a time to be a large part, anyway) of Devtome's content directly involves the whole fourth wall and what is considered fiction by who kind of stuff.

Earth is a fictional planet, for example, according to various other planets, most of whom are regarded themselves by most inhabitants of Earth as fictional...

-MarkM-

hey man i just read your "earn devcoins by doing things you enjoy" article and it was great! i've had a devtome link in my sig for a while now, but did not know i could get shares from it. Can you explain how i would do this please?

EDIT: i think i figured it out

I should maybe note too that I am not actually the admin, as in my own username on the system is not flagged as an admin.

The actual admin that came with the system is still the only admin, and I happen to be the only person who has its password.

That is probably not quite the same thing as simply having my own username flagged as an admin, for example if there is fine grained control over each and every thing one can flag a user as having an admin power over then likely this built in original admin has it all flagged.

So it might be kind of like a "root user" in Unix: an account one actually should try very hard to never actually use nor even maybe need to use.

There seems to be an abstraction layer between fine grained controls and types of user, so that an active admin user means a user having certain powers, an active full member user has different powers and so on.

So it might be possible to make a type of user labelled an advertising admin, and assign to that type various powers relating to advertising.

users seem maybe to be of only one type at a time though, if so a full member would be distinct from an advertising admin and probably an advertising admin should be a separate username distinct from someone's full member username and should not need all the powers of a full member only the various powers relating to ads.

Etc for other separations of function.

-MarkM-

Some basic categories to start with:
Writing: Fiction
Writing: Non-Fiction
Art

Then just look through DevTome and use the categories there to create sub categories.

Anyone got any better ideas?

ThinkI

It doesn't. It is a community currency bank type of program. It has clients for all the phones, the ability to let people sell things for the currency on their websites and all that kind of stuff, but never heard of cryptocoins.

Having people create modules for deposit and disbursement of cryptocoins would be nice things to offer bounties for, heck maybe even just continuing work on the free open source version now that - or when - the original developers move on to a proprietary version might be a darn good thing for DevCoin to consider supporting...

This is part of why I worry about admins.

I need to figure out whether I can give people the ability to admin the ads for example without the ability to change anyone's balances.

With Open Transactions people's balances cannot be changed without them signing off on the change.

Normal banks that is not the case.

I do not want to record on my Open Transactions server that The Bank of Devcoin, or DVCbank, or DVCcyclos or whatever I am going to call it on the Open Transactions side has X number of (digi)DeVCoins, by locking up the corresponding dDVC (digiDeVCoins) on the Open Transactions server, only to find later that on the Cyclos side they issued more than that many DeVCoins of balances to their users.

Unless it is in fact agreed that the DVCbank will operate on a fractional reserve basis, of course.

I am thinking maybe it would be useful if any withdraw from Cyclos type of functions can be locked up in the event a user has an outstanding loan, so that loaned balances cannot stray beyond the confines of the Cyclos system. That way even if they do go fractional reserve they won't actually leak any DeVCoins (or digiDevCoins, which is really what I plan to have the Cyclos balances represent).

There are so far only 210 million digiDeVCoins (dDVC) issued on the Open Transactions server, corresponding to real DeVCoins I have in wallets.

There is no withdrawing from those wallets. Hot wallet functionality is totally distinct from and over-and-above those cold wallet coins.

The cold coins are intended to be frozen "forever", that is, until I foresee no future need for any dDVC to exist.

Hot wallets are thus in addition to those 100% reserves, so that even if a hot wallet vanished the dDVC tokens in the Open Transactions system would still continue to each represent one whole DeVCoin frozen in a wallet.

Ideally hotwallet services (the buying and selling of the dDVC tokens for/with actual on the blockchain DeVCoins) would be done by third parties.

-MarkM-

they arent exactly "plagiarized, however, he seems to copy and paste his same guide with different pictures relative to the champion.
here are some examples
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=jayce_top_guide
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=orianna_middle_guide
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=fiddlesticks_jungle_guide

i cant find any more on the main page and i am still new so i cant navigate very well. However, in the vast majority of his guides there is basically the skills, and some flavor text.
for example, in every "mid" guide he posts you can find these 2 lines EXACTLY
Flash: Is ok. You can also tweak it with ghost if you want.
Ignite: Standard boost/finish for AP mages. You better take at least one ignite per team the healing reduction is so useful.

you will find that EXACT text for every mid guide, with a little info on each skill. Its disgusting.

How does it hold the devcoins in Escrow?

Fixing things will always achieve the opposite.

The way I want crypto currencies to succed is to see them be deflationary forever. Because people tend to do everything better and more efficient over time, that's the nature of the free markets.
Ofcourse only If governments gets out of the way.

Imagine a world where everything is like computers. Getting cheaper and faster all the time aslong as laws of nature allow for an improvement.

That would be the only limit we get on what we can achieve. Not the limits and fixings made by governments.

What's with the space craft that will be payed with devcoins in 2035? To reach that goal we need the free market.  
We need to think outside of government dogma and propaganda.