Topic: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 241. (Read 1058949 times)

I am going to start doing it myself when the round 31 payments start. 

Bittzy78

I'll let you know when I can get up to 500k / satoshi (if you're still around in 3 years :-p )

Its a business plan, darn, shoulda pasted it to Devtome...

But since it works so well I can afford not to.

-MarkM-

I have as well, great advice mark!

Hey mark, I have started doing this on a much smaller scale and it is already starting to pay off. Just need to watch it (and your e-mail) and it seems to be doing a good job so far   Thanx for the info!

as with anything, (and maybe it's just  a matter of respecting other people) i would say "ask first".... just my opinion.... music is an individual experience, and musicians like to be asked.... "open source" is great, but music as "open source" is difficult to do, unless you can play guitar like Hendrix or, in this case Frank Marino.... in the case of re-using sound clips, that would be up to Frank.... also browse around and read what he says on the subject..... he does have a forum on his website....

If you are willing to risk leaving coins on an exchange (e.g. Vircurex, that has made good both times they did suffer a hack) you don't even need to hold, you can just chop up your coins into, say, ten portions, and place then as ten sell offers on the sell side of the order book.

If you are conservative and think the next few upswings might not touch 200 Satoshis but don't mind waiting through maybe a bunch of upswings to get such a price you could pick 200 as top spot, or if you actually would prefer to hold long term yet would like to get a nice hot price sometime you could pick 300 as your top spot if getting that much would compensate you enough in your view for having even your topmost dearest coins get bought.

Then step down, like maybe 200, 180, 160, 140, 120, 100, 90, 80, 70, 60 or something like that.

Or if you really want ten percent relatively soon albeit at a low price, maybe even step down to 50, which still looks like it might easily get bought any day now on random ups and downs.

Personally I have half a million for sale at each and every Satoshi of price all the way to up over 300 but it took me a long time to get there, a lot of input coins originally then at least three or four swing cycles that went up near or over 200, one of them over 300 then back down to 30 or even slightly less.

(I replenish my supply by having lowball buy offers on every Satoshi of price too, with the offers being for more and more coins the lower the price. I have picked up oodles of coins at only 30 Satoshis or less by my offers having been there already in place when such moments - or weeks, or months - came.)

Once you have gone through a swing cycle you can easily get all your original input to the exchange back out and from then on all the coins "at risk" by being on the exhange are pure profit earned by being on the exchange, plus then also milk it some each swing cycle to get some added income while still also increasing the volume of pure profit left lying around on the exchange to make more pure profit with...

This also has the advantage of making times when the prices go low be nice times, times you look forward to, because they are times when your lowball buy offers get gobbled up, giving you lots and lots of coins to sit back up on the sell side as highball offers ready for the next upswing.

Plus Vircurex even pays you to have bitcoins sitting there, so your lowball offers are earning bitcoins for you in the meantime.

You can also save on Vircurex fees by signing up using a referral URL.

( Such as mine, which is https://vircurex.com/welcome/index?referral_id=597-1636 )

-MarkM-

Exactly since it is traded it makes sense to align goals that will appease shareholders ie holders of the currency. If you decide to dump at market then your loss as your no longer aligned with the interests of the project.. with this is mind if we align our interests and decisions as business rationale then devtome is an economically dependent as a child and hasnt provided any benefit to shareholders more like shareholders have been forced to support writers as they dump. Instead those that write amd hold will benefit especially if we start to have businesses that bring in profit like an auction site or the such.

I'll just post this again in case missed a couple of days ago. Basically it needs more involvement to move ideas into action.

On the Devtome compensation issue, again to be clear I'm only referring to justifying relative earnings and not any view on writer's skillset or efforts.

Absolutely none at all, although you will need wallets on different computers. I don't think the devcoin client works very well with different folders atm..at least I couldn't get it to work properly myself.

Hey eeh,

I don't think anyone is saying writers aren't working many hours to produce quality stuff, as far as I can see they're taking advantage of the system as intended. The question, is whether it's having the intended impact or not, and what the goal metrics used to judge this are.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with putting an emphasis or priority on any aspect of open source work, be it writing or developing or anything else, but wouldn't having a rational, and even a scientific or business approach to investment vs reward serve the project, and everyone connected to it, better in the long run?

I have a technical question from a non-technical person  .  My daughter has become very interested in DVC.  We live in the same household and use the same internet and router.  She is wanting to download her own DVC wallet and apply for an account with Devtome.  Will using the same internet and router cause any issues?  Thanks

Papa

So the tracks available there are free to use? For example we could put them on our music-archive site when we create such a site?

And our visitors could in turn grab them from us to use on their own sites, to chop up into soundbites, make dub-mixes of and so on and so on?

It didn't seem to shout loudly right up front exactly what form of free open source license it is releasing the material under...

-MarkM-

http://www.mahoganyrush.com/    i used to listen to this band when i was in high school.... Frank Marino thinks musicians would do better to put their music up on the web in free downloadable form rather than try to make a living from album sales.  record companies (and their "parent organizations" have definitely left a bad taste in his mouth. Frank Marino believes the best way to make a living as a musician is to actually go and play concerts (which as a musician, he loves to do...)   as a long time rocker, i would rather see a band play live than listen to recordings, but it's the recordings that make me want to see the band play live...... i know it's the opposite of the way the music industry was originally set up (it was Thomas Edison that started the whole thing after all.... ), but in the "internet age" there are things that need to be changed, and maybe even turned upside down....

I am only saying this because if you look at the recent Google analytics, Devtome could be moving into some very elite traffic territory within the next several months. The site just needs to represent that coming eliteness.


http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devtome_analytics

I also agree with this! There has to be a better layout for the main entry page of the Wiki.  I like some of Bittzy's ideas and I think there is more we can do with it.

Agreed, the time it is taking me to do the second story (and it is just a back story) is pretty long. I have a lot of ideas for future parts and what not to the series, but it takes time to get them all linked and on the same timeline and not have errors.

Everytime I view the main Devtome page I get the impression that something didn't load correctly or something from the site is missing or possibly not completed. Would it be possible to spruce the front page up a little bit? I suggest the following...


1. Move the most recent article section to another page or below the topics section.

2. Have a nice big Devcoin/Devtome logo that has the slogan for Devcoin incorporated into it.

3. Have a featured article above or below the logo instead of the long string of recent ones.

4. Have "earn free Devcoins" etc hovering around the logo so that it is impossible to miss.

5. Work some type of link above or below the logo that monetizes the front page in a better fashion.


I am not saying that it should look like the main Wikipedia page, it just needs a little more pop.


Bittzy78

I will try to list them all. If necessary, I can make photos:

• Main page reads: 'Your Bitcoin address'
• Main page: send payment and request payment refer to 'Bitcoin'
• Page request for payment: seems like the Dogecoin logo? If not, I prefer the official green logo. 2nd: top of the screen refers to request for BitcoinsOne extra remark, upon opening this page, the program asks me whether it can access Bluetooth. This is because I ticked the experimental option of offline Bluetooth payments. It is a little annoying that the software asks me whether to allow access to Bluetooth, but if I decline, the same question keeps popping up no matter how many times I decline. That's why they call it 'experimental' I guess  
• Page request for payment -> menu -> Help: this text still refers to Bitcoin
• Page send payment: Again seems like the Dogecoin logo? 2nd: top of the screen refers to payment of Bitcoins
• Main page: link to safety guidelines: guidelines refer to Bitcoin

Other remark: pinning the exchange rate to something else than BTC does not work yet. I chose USD (pinned) but the main page still shows the price in BTC.


Let me specify: the earlier example of an article like famous Jazz artists of the 60's is what I am talking about. That should not deter a Jazz fan from writing that stuff, but who will read it and what is the connection to development? Again, it's just how I feel about it, not necessarily someone else.

I can tell you that I have spent years trying to develop my skills as a writer. I know there are devs out there who have spent just as long, if not longer, refining their own toolset.

My personal strategy is to create material that is not available elsewhere. I want to do draw those people in. I don't think a mindset of writing vs. developing is a fair comparison.

My last eight (or so) submissions have taken no less than 60 hours to produce. When you calculate my earnings, that isn't much compared with what I'm paid professionally to produce training publications.

I'm just putting that out there.