Topic: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 244. (Read 1058949 times)

For some reason I can never get that site to come up for me when I click on the link.

Although, I used to be able to look at it.

You can already do so...

tagbond exchange offers devcoin and also offers ability to deposit/withdraw to paypal... maybe you can test it out? This is why I made a big deal when we made it onto their platform because now you can fund or go back via paypal/credit card/bank transfer and/or other fiat currencies instantly.

New update!  http://dvc4giftcards.us/ now offers $50 eStarbucks cards and Netflix 12-month codes.

Like coinbase, where you can convert dvc to your bank account?

Would anyone be interested in running a signature ad campaign for devcoin here on the forums?  That might make devcoin more well-known.

I know in the United States you can pretty much do as you wish with regular gift cards (Amazon, Walmart etc)  all day long on your website, mainly because they aren't viewed as cash. It all changes if you try and sell or exchange those credit card gift cards. The government considers those cash and if you are not careful, you could be considered an accessory to money laundering. I am pretty sure it would be the same thing if you used Paypal or other similar sites.

It could end up being a slippery slope to attempt such a site.

Yeah I had noticed not many coins had these types of sites available to them.
-AM

Could you make these maps in some machine-usable form?

Like maybe do Crossfire RPG maps and/or Battle for Wesnoth maps and/or maps for whatever that online tabletop roleplaying system Novacadian uses is?

Maybe also Freeciv-scale maps of each entire planet would be useful...

-MarkM-

The only problem that is holding me back from attempting to make these types of sites is the customer service portion and upkeep. There is just too much legally that could be an issue with exchanges, paypal to crypto, etc. sites. It may not be a thing for most people, but for me it just is a little too much.

I thought of a cool idea that maybe could count as a bounty, What if someone made a devcoin to paypal website or something like that. I think this would be a great idea and also possibly make devcoin more popular. 
-AM

Personally I like the DevTome shares. I think that the writing on there could be better in some cases, but in others it is really well done. I have started writing again, because it is worth it to me again due to the DevCoins. I have started creating a full D&D style world and writing short stories in it and starting to build it out (creating maps and descriptions to go along with the stories and the back stories.) It is fun to be doing that again and I hope to keep doing it, and DevTome is a great place to put it out rather then copyrighting it all and publishing it on Amazon or wherever.

Just my 2 cents

To the extent that we have changed from rewarding people who naturally as a lifestyle create free open source stuff to trying to bribe people who have no interest in creating free open source stuff and no desire nor intent to make such stuff into begrudgingly making it anyway despite preferring not to then I guess we have lost our way...

We were not supposed to be rewarding artists for making art, authors for writing, programmers for programming.

We were supposed to be rewarding activists who pro-actively create free open source stuff for their pro-active, out of their own pocket creative activism / activistic creativity.

-MarkM-

Mark wrote:


We had that at the very beginning, and Caston was actually paid that way for his site for a while, however once devtome was working I decided that writers would only get paid for writing on devtome. Only programmers and hardware developers can go on the list now.

Hunterbunter wrote:


When wikipedia started it was the first open source encyclopedia which anyone could edit, so most people who wanted to write open source articles went there. When wikipedia started deleting articles, other open source encyclopedias were made, but they went nowhere because wikipedia has a huge first mover advantage. To start a new wiki, you have to pay people. Once devtome gets really big, some people would probably we willing to write articles for free, but of course they'll be paid anyways.

This is an important point.

If that still is the main goal of devcoins, you're absolutely right that wikipedia writers doing it for free are just as eligible as devtome writers.

So while I understand the attempt to focus on devtome (building interest/ad revenue/dvc price), is it worth it? What are we measuring its success by, and is it doing it? If not, is there a planned cut-our-losses date? We can't really use the actual price of dvc, because it's clearly affected by the greater cryptocurrency market at the moment.

A lot of my comments on competitive "creative mining" comes from the observation of how things are going, not necessarily what the actual goal of the devcoin project was. If it's not intended to run that way, then it might have lost its way.

I found nothing on the devcoin forum so: Is there an organigram of the board members somewhere ? Is there a log with all the descisions they took for devcoin/devtome ?

The animation was an original work.

The new email stuff for a new forum is some original work placed on top of an existing off the shelf forum system.

An auction site is simply clicking install on an off the shelf auctions system and maybe entering some categories and maybe plugging in some kind of plugin or module that enables cryptocurrencies instead of fiat to be used.

Actually I don't know if the off the shelf auction systems even handle currency themselves directly at all as in automated payments automated commissions and so on, if they do not - if all the actual money is handled externally to the scripts that run the forum - then you are talking about just installing a web-app and hosting it. Then things like moderators or whatever as on-going expenses.

How hard can it be to just install an off the shelf web-app?

Seems to me maybe everything is getting wildly inflated.

Per the authors thing, consider that since wikipedia is free open source content, any existing wikipedia author who already does 10 hours per week of work on wikipedia could in principle be considered qualified as a developer thus get one share. If they were working on something specifically needed by the DeVCoin project - which for instance we could even claim Devtome qualifies as - then they could qualify with only ten hours per month.

So just with that much in place we could tell wikipedia authors they could get the same pay (one share every round) doing only ten hours per month of work for Devtome as they could get by doing forty hours per month for wikipedia or any other not directly DeVCoin-needed free open source writing.

A key thing here is the idea was to reward people who already without pay spend lots of hours creating free open source stuff.

A lot of why they don't tend to "dump" the coins is the coins are, to them, free extras, tips, something they never even need to think about because they already as a lifestyle always spent many hours creating free open source stuff. They basically go like oh cool, sure, a steady stream of tips that might some year turn out to be valuable, thanks a lot, but I am already making free open source stuff anyway so pardon me if I just leave those coins on a back burner for a few years until they add up to a nice reward for all my years of freely working on free open source stuff...

Nowadays instead it seems we have a bunch of professional author cum barracks-lawyers gobbling up all the money so the people originally intended to benefit - the people who already put in huge numbers of hours year after year freely creating free open source stuff - are finding their rewards are hardly even worth bothering to count up to see if the year has come yet to cash them in.

(Which is yet another reason they don't dump, it is like huh I got maybe $61 this month? Sheesh lets give it another few years to see if it ever becomes even worth the time it would take to set up a wallet to access the damn things...)

-MarkM-

EDIT: Is there a way to see your latest edits? I wrote some stuff a while back and did not link it to my user-page so was going to look at my last edits lists to find it but cannot find a list of the last edits that i did...

Not everything gets rated.  Great question, Thanos!  A community thrives if all of its members are knowledgeable.

I have a question. Upon searching my name in devtome a few things come up, my page (the wiki) and then ratings on my work... I am wondering though does all work get rated? I have a lot of articles and only a few got rated. Is it just that we do not have enough admins to rate the work?  
Thanks,
-AM

Did you read my post carefully? http://github.com/sidhujag/devcoin

its done but your welcome to try and we can compare or you can do 0.8.6.. should be a small update. Although we havent finalized this one yet.. thats why its hard to find.

If your going down that road you should look at rsnels fixes for i0coin which knotwork doesnt address.. these are changes related to auxpow memory vs disk that is ontop of any bitcoin+namecoin addon

If someone can pull that off they might also need an ongoing bounty for monthly upkeep and maintenance of the site.

The last one was in early December..

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/devcoin-dvc-value-increases-300-073504074.html

and also this one...

http://marketersmedia.com/devcoin-dvc-at-its-highest-dollar-value-yet-continues-to-make-the-world-a-better-place/29226