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legendary
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Doesn't static waste a huge amount of RAM? At least if lots of coins all are static doesn't that stop them sharing code pages for all the libs they all have in common?

We still haven't gotten the RAM hogging fix into all the merged mined coins and already people want to start making them hog more for libs they all use?

Or is there some smarts in the sharing that will notice the static libs are the same and share them?

-MarkM-


no, not any magic that will detect libs static linked into other binarys. the only advantage is redistributing easily and professionally.

Yes Mark you're right, no need to distributed devcoind static, because all those people using devcoind will be sys admins, that they are not likely to use directly binarys and will prefer to build themselves. I think sidhujag may refer to devcoin-qt linux version, instead of devcoind.


I hope so. It gets tiresome having to meddle with the makefiles of all the coin daemons to make sure they all use dynamic linking.

Especially for merged mined coins it makes sense to assume people will run many of the daemons.

-MarkM-


Ok I will change it to link dynamically. But the libs them selves will be statically built to avoid putting in runtime libs sound fair?

I left other makefiles alone expect a dev to fix and give me the updated file for each os.
legendary
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Doesn't static waste a huge amount of RAM? At least if lots of coins all are static doesn't that stop them sharing code pages for all the libs they all have in common?

We still haven't gotten the RAM hogging fix into all the merged mined coins and already people want to start making them hog more for libs they all use?

Or is there some smarts in the sharing that will notice the static libs are the same and share them?

-MarkM-


no, not any magic that will detect libs static linked into other binarys. the only advantage is redistributing easily and professionally.

Yes Mark you're right, no need to distributed devcoind static, because all those people using devcoind will be sys admins, that they are not likely to use directly binarys and will prefer to build themselves. I think sidhujag may refer to devcoin-qt linux version, instead of devcoind.


I hope so. It gets tiresome having to meddle with the makefiles of all the coin daemons to make sure they all use dynamic linking.

Especially for merged mined coins it makes sense to assume people will run many of the daemons.

-MarkM-

EDIT: P.S. dll ? Ouch. I don't care what crap windows people use just don't make the makefile.unix for the daemon force everything to static.

dlls for windows have always been a shocking horror story. Linux type distros though tend to do dynamic libs rather well.
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
The Android wallet is showing strange behaviour: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52KO2UBsDEs

It does not seem to update the block chain properly. Can you look into this before I try to pay some coins into this wallet?
Hi Weckel,

Nothing strange I see? Its doing version check with devcoin nodes 32500 and 32400 and severing connection?

You need to point to your new wallet node. Run new wallet 1.0.12 on your computer and set your internet ip address in your android wallet settings and say in there to skip normal peer activity select the checkbox.

You should connect to it and stay connected.
legendary
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yes
The Android wallet is showing strange behaviour: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52KO2UBsDEs

It does not seem to update the block chain properly. Can you look into this before I try to pay some coins into this wallet?
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
Doesn't static waste a huge amount of RAM? At least if lots of coins all are static doesn't that stop them sharing code pages for all the libs they all have in common?

We still haven't gotten the RAM hogging fix into all the merged mined coins and already people want to start making them hog more for libs they all use?

Or is there some smarts in the sharing that will notice the static libs are the same and share them?

-MarkM-


My issue with sharing code is that software changes and breaks compatibility so since coins have their own repos and developers things change amd invalidate commonalities.. I would rather not be involved in debugging a problem that ends up being because the other executablr used a different version of libcurl that doesnt have multithreading enabled. Each of thr dependant libs can be built with different options and changes the code so sharing across coins is probably asking for trouble.

Only ram it takes is loading it on execution versus demand.. I dont see it as a problem its 40 megs on startup looks ok to me.

The original memory problem you refer to should be fixed because I included the changed rsnel made to serealize auxpow blocks to disk in cdiskblockheader instead of memory only.
full member
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I think devcoin needs something else added to it... it should be used for something else, bitcoin has gambling sites, black markets, and is widely accepted as a currency both online and not online. Devcoin is really not all that much though. We should get more online things to accept devcoin if we want the value to rise. I think (if I am allowed) more bounties should go out to people that want to make more devcoin accepted businesses. Lets say I am just some random person that thinks the ethical idea is cool, why would I buy a ton of them if they really can not be spent on a ton of things? I know this message may have a bad sound to it but I really think that more bounties must be offered for more businesses if we want the value to rise and if we want more people to accept this coin. I love devcoin and I think this would be in its best interests for growth.
Thanks,
-AM
full member
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Doesn't static waste a huge amount of RAM? At least if lots of coins all are static doesn't that stop them sharing code pages for all the libs they all have in common?

We still haven't gotten the RAM hogging fix into all the merged mined coins and already people want to start making them hog more for libs they all use?

Or is there some smarts in the sharing that will notice the static libs are the same and share them?

-MarkM-


no, not any magic that will detect libs static linked into other binarys. the only advantage is redistributing easily and professionally.

Yes Mark you're right, no need to distributed devcoind static, because all those people using devcoind will be sys admins, that they are not likely to use directly binarys and will prefer to build themselves. I think sidhujag may refer to devcoin-qt linux version, instead of devcoind.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
Doesn't static waste a huge amount of RAM? At least if lots of coins all are static doesn't that stop them sharing code pages for all the libs they all have in common?

We still haven't gotten the RAM hogging fix into all the merged mined coins and already people want to start making them hog more for libs they all use?

Or is there some smarts in the sharing that will notice the static libs are the same and share them?

-MarkM-
full member
Activity: 276
Merit: 102
newest wallet(devcoind on linux x32) and android wallet(1.0.1) tested, basically it all works like a charm, great work! I tested the new windows version of qt gui, sending receiving via qr code from and to android wallet, everything works.

and some minor issues:

1. devcoind need to be compiled dynamically, i'd manually removed the '--static' flag. If not, the compilation finished but it report "cannot find file or directory" while starting devcoind;

2. I suppose the android wallet does not compatible with old devcoin nodes yet? because it cannot connect to any peer, so I let it point to my own node which has deployed the newest devcoind (d.evco.in with default port), and it works.

Its better to be static so we send out a single file... the reason you are not able to run with static is cause
one of the dependencies were not compiled statically. With db boost
openssl etc you need to compile these with static aswell and then use the static libs in the makefile.. the executable grows in size too but its better. once you do this can you send me linux executable I will put it in installer..

Yea the android only connects to new nodes for security reasons im sure it would work but there are loopholes that would open up.

so can i point to your node aswell then? d.evco.in:52333?

I went thru quite a bit of pain to ensure I can link everything statically.. although there are some boost performance gains using dynamic linking its really a tradeoff and to me more professional to have it static.

If you have trouble let me know I will give you commands on how to conpile the dependencies statically. Infact I will update the readme.

yes that's d.evco.in:52333, you can always use this because that's my vps server and it's up more than 99% of the time.

I'll try to compile all the dependency static.... though I think the best way is to use automake/autoconf buiding system, which bitcoin 0.8.6 already does.
hero member
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Its as easy as 0, 1, 1, 2, 3
http://forum.devcoin.org

Will now point to coinzen. Hyperspire can you update the site to add a link to the forum when you get a chance ?
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
newest wallet(devcoind on linux x32) and android wallet(1.0.1) tested, basically it all works like a charm, great work! I tested the new windows version of qt gui, sending receiving via qr code from and to android wallet, everything works.

and some minor issues:

1. devcoind need to be compiled dynamically, i'd manually removed the '--static' flag. If not, the compilation finished but it report "cannot find file or directory" while starting devcoind;

2. I suppose the android wallet does not compatible with old devcoin nodes yet? because it cannot connect to any peer, so I let it point to my own node which has deployed the newest devcoind (d.evco.in with default port), and it works.

Its better to be static so we send out a single file... the reason you are not able to run with static is cause
one of the dependencies were not compiled statically. With db boost
openssl etc you need to compile these with static aswell and then use the static libs in the makefile.. the executable grows in size too but its better. once you do this can you send me linux executable I will put it in installer..

Yea the android only connects to new nodes for security reasons im sure it would work but there are loopholes that would open up.

so can i point to your node aswell then? d.evco.in:52333?

I went thru quite a bit of pain to ensure I can link everything statically.. although there are some boost performance gains using dynamic linking its really a tradeoff and to me more professional to have it static.

If you have trouble let me know I will give you commands on how to conpile the dependencies statically. Infact I will update the readme.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1019
I do not give financial advice .. do your own DD

Would anyone be interested in running a signature ad campaign for devcoin here on the forums?  That might make devcoin more well-known.
Yeah I would be interested in making devcoin popular, what all would I need to do though?

well you can't say anything on "FB" because the content nazis immediately block any devtome.com or devcoin.org address......


They don't block this one...

http://www.moneyandpotatoes.com/freelance-writer-earn-some-extra-money-with-devtome/


It probably ended up being a little long and confusing but it could get people interested. The social buttons are at the bottom of the article.
newbie
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Merit: 0

Would anyone be interested in running a signature ad campaign for devcoin here on the forums?  That might make devcoin more well-known.
Yeah I would be interested in making devcoin popular, what all would I need to do though?

well you can't say anything on "FB" because the content nazis immediately block any devtome.com or devcoin.org address......
full member
Activity: 276
Merit: 102
newest wallet(devcoind on linux x32) and android wallet(1.0.1) tested, basically it all works like a charm, great work! I tested the new windows version of qt gui, sending receiving via qr code from and to android wallet, everything works.

and some minor issues:

1. devcoind need to be compiled dynamically, i'd manually removed the '--static' flag. If not, the compilation finished but it report "cannot find file or directory" while starting devcoind;

2. I suppose the android wallet does not compatible with old devcoin nodes yet? because it cannot connect to any peer, so I let it point to my own node which has deployed the newest devcoind (d.evco.in with default port), and it works.
full member
Activity: 276
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I thought of a cool idea that maybe could count as a bounty, What if someone made a devcoin to paypal website or something like that. I think this would be a great idea and also possibly make devcoin more popular.  
-AM

Like coinbase, where you can convert dvc to your bank account?

Would anyone be interested in running a signature ad campaign for devcoin here on the forums?  That might make devcoin more well-known.

What do you mean by signature ad campaign? Is my faucet doing that? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1983573
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1019
I do not give financial advice .. do your own DD

It is interesting that ebay is going to allow digital currency on their U.K. site in February but not on the U.S. one.... that is a step in the right direction but still very annoying. If anyone on the forum is from the U.K. and planning on selling Devcoins, maybe something can be worked out to get more listings up and going for Devcoin in Feb.


I had all of my Devcoin listings canceled on ebay on the U.S. site a few days ago.


http://www.coindesk.com/ebay-uk-virtual-currency-february/
full member
Activity: 387
Merit: 100

Would anyone be interested in running a signature ad campaign for devcoin here on the forums?  That might make devcoin more well-known.
Yeah I would be interested in making devcoin popular, what all would I need to do though?
full member
Activity: 387
Merit: 100
New update!  http://dvc4giftcards.us/ now offers $50 eStarbucks cards and Netflix 12-month codes.
Does the Starbucks coffee cards work like a coupon in actual Starbucks stores?
full member
Activity: 387
Merit: 100
I thought of a cool idea that maybe could count as a bounty, What if someone made a devcoin to paypal website or something like that. I think this would be a great idea and also possibly make devcoin more popular.  
-AM

Like coinbase, where you can convert dvc to your bank account?

Would anyone be interested in running a signature ad campaign for devcoin here on the forums?  That might make devcoin more well-known.
Yeah that was what I was thinking, something like that.
-AM
member
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Personally I like the DevTome shares. I think that the writing on there could be better in some cases, but in others it is really well done. I have started writing again, because it is worth it to me again due to the DevCoins. I have started creating a full D&D style world and writing short stories in it and starting to build it out (creating maps and descriptions to go along with the stories and the back stories.) It is fun to be doing that again and I hope to keep doing it, and DevTome is a great place to put it out rather then copyrighting it all and publishing it on Amazon or wherever.

Just my 2 cents

Could you make these maps in some machine-usable form?

Like maybe do Crossfire RPG maps and/or Battle for Wesnoth maps and/or maps for whatever that online tabletop roleplaying system Novacadian uses is?

Maybe also Freeciv-scale maps of each entire planet would be useful...

-MarkM-


I am doing them bit by bit, I haven't started them on a world level scale, but I can. I am using Cartographer to create them.

Given enough time, I guess I could make some world maps, but that would take away from my time writing and doing maps for my world :-p hehe
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