Topic: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 296. (Read 1058949 times)

I wanted to reignite the discussion concerning

1) open source vs free stuff

2) using proprietary methods to create free stuff

and what this would mean for every artist who would want to contribute.

I reposted an earlier statement by mark that concisely describes his viewpoint.

In my opinion there are many rather confusing and strange implications that make no sense for me whatsoever and are even potentially baffling and deterrent for any artist who would want to participate.

For example... (emphasis added by myself)


So this would open the door for everyone who has better means of converting something someone created for free, even giving the converter the claim over the bounty and the power to decide how much money the actual artist would recieve.

This is unsettling to say the least.

Wouldn't that create incentives for similar behaviour like we see with patent trolls (a little far-fetched I agree), introducing a new species of competitor, no more only the creator species, but also the converter species who acts not necessarily in accordance with the creators?

BTER unfortunately is broken as far as supporting eight digits of decimals goes.

It has weird things happen like not being able to use all the decimals when placing an order on the website, and displaying with different numbers of decimals on different parts/tables of a page, yet you see offers appear on the orderbooks that have more decimals than you can type in on the page.

It looks like maybe their API si allowing bots to make use of all the decimals while the webpages are inconsistent about how many decimals there are.

The only reason I ever used BTER was BBQcoins, which I have not been able to work with properly over there because of this weird glitch that forces ten satoshi jumps between prices for humans using the website, leaving huge gaps therefore between prices, while bots or the system's own internal manipulations or something gets to jump in-between all your prices by making use of those decimals that you the human are not permitted/enabled to use.

In fact when I started using BTER the extra digits of decimals that the bots or the internal manipulators or who-ever or what-ever were using were not even visible in the order-book, so you'd find you could not buy an offer at its displayed price because it was not displaying the full price, the last one or more decimals were concealed.

Basically the script they are using, which I believe is a commercial script that they sell to other sites or that they along with other sites buy from someone, is broken as far as dealing with bitcoin-based cryptocurrencies go; it was maybe hacked up from some code originally intended for fiat forex (in which one usually uses five decimals and trades blocks of ten thousand units of a currency so that the 10000 units in play at a time makes up for the five decimals, balancing them out by multiplying by 10,000).

Still, it was better to deal with BBQ over at BTER despite the broken scripts than to contemplate the ghastly idea of having Vircurex, which seemed to have been designed for eight decimals all along, get flooded with garbage crapcoins. I certainly do not recommend anyone use any of the scam-central exchanges that specialise in enabling all the new scamcoins that keep coming out, I merely happened to use it because I dabbled in BBQcoin, which was kind of an early proof of how scammy all those new scrypt coins are.

(Think of BBQ as an experiment to see whether having more scrypt coins would be viable; what it seemed to demonstrate was that in fact having another scrypt coin was not viable, yet nonetheless despite the demonstrated lack of viability of an increased number of such coins, more and more such coins keep coming out...)

-MarkM-

Hello,
Eset Antivirus continues detecting devcoin.exe --> probably unknown NewHeur_PE.


It's safe to use???


https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/9e92e9f1959414903e80a0c1e2c159d29b1644910df325ddf6a173b41b9b7bc8/analysis/1387896494/

thank you

Great news emfox!! Good job

What about a mobile wallet using bitcoinj?  Now that we have qr support would be nice to make payments on your phone via nfc or qr.

Looks like those emails work! Lets double up efforts to get on other exchanges espeially those chinese ones!

I'm getting a lot of signup requests, and I just processed a few today from the last two to three days. If I missed anyone, please feel free to PM me again.

Merry Christmas, everyone

BTER has deposits and withdrawals enabled for DVC. So it's almost ready!

dvc hasn't on, but just announced, on chinese page you could see the announcement on the right column.

If you have a Chrome browser it does an instant translation of English to Chinese but I didn't see Devcoin on the Chinese side when I looked.

That is pretty cool though. The more exchanges that have Devcoin means the more chances there are that Devcoin could have runs.

I actually think that the model Bter is using will be duplicated many times in the future. It will be coin-in and coin-out only in the future for several of them, no cash whatsoever.

Hello, great news guys, bter.com one of the biggest altcoin exchanges in china has reply to me that they accept devcoin, and has announced officially dvc will soon be on shelf

http://bter.com/ (the english page has not updated, you could visit chinese page, and search for word "Devcoin", incase you know chinese)


Edit: It's on now http://bter.com/trade/dvc_cny

It might also be worth it to contact http://www.cex.io and ask them the same thing. It might help speed up their implementation process of alt coin trading. They presently have online Devcoin wallets and allow for withdrawals for a small 0.001 fee.

If you go to the "Faq" and then "Merged Mining" section it says..

"As of November 11th - GHash.IO has enabled merged mining of altcoins. These coins are mined simultaneously with the BTC, and give you additional profit. Information on altcoins can be found here: http://altcoins.com/

You can exchange alt coins for bitcoins on various exchanges. We will also be implementing a BTC to NMC, IXC, DVC pair exchange soon. Additional coins may be also implemented along the way."

Thank you eeh   
I've exactly received 1001 DVC and not 1000 from you ! Strange isn't it ? The difficulty answer was the most difficult to find until I found the block explorer site  (http://d.evco.in/abe/chain/DeVCoin?count=500&hi=118878) 

Thank you  
I sent you my devcoin address from my computer in a private message.

I got a reply from Unocoin regarding adding a BTC/DVC trading pair.  Their reply was:

"Sure i have made a note of it. Our next plans is to get LTC. We will try to include DVC as well some time in future."


It's worth more people contacting them asking for DVC to be added to make sure they know there is demand!

Why not "just" change how bitcoin does things so everyone needs a new bitcoin client?

Such a change would be a so called "hard fork". I expect there is a lot of info about "hard forks" on these forums, especially in the technical / development section.

(Bitcoin likes to schedule such things two years in advance, so that once they do change the code they change it to code that says "when we reach this two years or so from now block, these new rules go into effect...)

Please check whether you read my previous post since I editted it as I was still working on it when you posted...

-MarkM-

Yes, thanks for your patience, nothing like a dev you can ask questions and get immediate answers.
I try to read every post, but most I still find incomprehensible.
You are right, I'll go back to the beginning and reread. Problem is I don't know where to start, there are other locked DVC-Threads in this forum... should I go that far back?

So, is there a mathematical reason for having a maximum division of shares into five parts? Why not just up this?

You obviously skipped a bunch of posts from a day or few ago, plus same data in posts way longer ago than that.

Each "round" is 4000 "blocks", and the mining tries, by adjusting "difficulty", to target an average time between "blocks" of ten minutes.

Thus a "round" - 4000 blocks - should on average tend to be vaguely around about a month or so of "real time".

It is a hard limit, as 4000 blocks is the definition of a "round", and since each block is a share, there are only ever at most 4000 shares.

This is why eventually we will likely end up with only 4000 projects getting a share each, or up to 20,000 getting a fifth of a share each, then each project will divvy up its coins among its participants/workers itself after it receives them.

For example in an Open Transactions server maybe a videos site might have an asset called Moviecoins or Videocoins, and a medical/health site have an asset called Healthcoins or Medcoins or whatever and so on, which it can give out to its workers and then periodically when it receives devcoins on the blockchain it can issue digidevcoins on the Open Transactions server to represent them and place offers in the markets in the Open Transactiosn server to buy back its medcoins or moviecoins or whatever wit digidevcoins, which in turn could be cashed out for real on the blockchain devcoins (maybe via a multi-dignature blockchaincoin-pool in which multiple servers must approve the digidevcoins in order to sign the multisig on-the-blockchain transaction that moves the actual on-th-eblockchain devcoins).

-MarkM-

Aha, yes I see... now with _29 at the end, it opens the file. Cool.

So they excluded the number at the end of the peer url, because it regularly changes. Makes sense.

hm, There is no limit to the amount of blocks I assume?
or is there a theoretical limit of how many shares there can be?