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legendary
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September 19, 2013, 10:18:38 PM
That would be cool. And a thread with a poll to choose the project.

No need for a poll.  Each donator would allocate which projects their funds went to.
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September 19, 2013, 09:47:53 PM
Maybe a cool feature would be a new section for the userpage called "Donation"
A person could put a certain percentage on there to be given back to the foundation to help increase the value of devcoin!  Smiley

You know, I think that idea has a lot of potential, actually.  I would expand it by having the ability to allocate your donation in a specific way, to a specific project.  Then everyone who is doing something to improve or promote the Devcoin project can essentially bid for our donation DVCs.  People who want to solicit those donations could go through a screening process, but then after that it's up to them to convince the rest of us writers that their project is worthy.

So... we would get to choose the donation percentage (it would get kicked off with each generation share), and we get to choose where it goes.

I'm not sure if this is redundant to the bounties or not (it doesn't necessarily have to be), but it would definitely spread out the ownership into the rest of the projects.  I'd definitely have to understand a project to be able to support it, so it would give incentive for people who are working on these very high level technical things to take the time to explain them in plain English to us non-technical people.

I'd almost be in favor of there being an automatic 1% mandatory donation.  Almost.  The reason I say "almost" is because I'm well aware I'm missing information.  And of course when it comes right down to it, I lean on the capitalist side (as opposed to forced sharing of wealth).  But I do think this would be worth pondering, even considering, and possibly modifying to work with the system.  Thoughts?

That would be cool. And a thread with a poll to choose the project.
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 09:45:36 PM
Maybe a cool feature would be a new section for the userpage called "Donation"
A person could put a certain percentage on there to be given back to the foundation to help increase the value of devcoin!  Smiley

You know, I think that idea has a lot of potential, actually.  I would expand it by having the ability to allocate your donation in a specific way, to a specific project.  Then everyone who is doing something to improve or promote the Devcoin project can essentially bid for our donation DVCs.  People who want to solicit those donations could go through a screening process, but then after that it's up to them to convince the rest of us writers that their project is worthy.

So... we would get to choose the donation percentage (it would get kicked off with each generation share), and we get to choose where it goes.

I'm not sure if this is redundant to the bounties or not (it doesn't necessarily have to be), but it would definitely spread out the ownership into the rest of the projects.  I'd definitely have to understand a project to be able to support it, so it would give incentive for people who are working on these very high level technical things to take the time to explain them in plain English to us non-technical people.

I'd almost be in favor of there being an automatic 1% mandatory donation.  Almost.  The reason I say "almost" is because I'm well aware I'm missing information.  And of course when it comes right down to it, I lean on the capitalist side (as opposed to forced sharing of wealth).  But I do think this would be worth pondering, even considering, and possibly modifying to work with the system.  Thoughts?
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September 19, 2013, 08:02:42 PM

@FinShaggy: Shakezula said you were broke... How did you get to Colorado and get living arrangements?  You don't have to answer, I'm just curious.  Smiley

Family lives here. I lived with family at first, then went to Mexico and New Mexico and Florida for a short while, couldn't find a job in any of those places. Then came back to Colorado, but went to Pueblo this time and my mom paid $300 rent for me. That was almost a year ago now.
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 07:48:14 PM

Hey wiser, I read the "Giving back" section.

Maybe a cool feature would be a new section for the userpage called "Donation"
A person could put a certain percentage on there to be given back to the foundation to help increase the value of devcoin!  Smiley

@FinShaggy: Shakezula said you were broke... How did you get to Colorado and get living arrangements?  You don't have to answer, I'm just curious.  Smiley
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September 19, 2013, 07:20:13 PM
Ya'll think it's a good idea though? I should go for it?
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September 19, 2013, 07:18:50 PM
Made a Devtome Blog:
http://devtome.blogspot.com/

I'm thinking whoevers article gets the most clicks in 1 month gets the adsense money... Or maybe the money just goes into Devcoin or Devtome somehow.

What do ya'll think? Should I start posting more articles?

Maybe crosslink articles with relevant info in Devtome and drive more traffic there? Speaking of I saw some Google Analytics for Devtome, but what does the AdSense look like? If we got more traffic to Devtome would AdSense increase at all?

~shakezula

Good idea. I should add links to all the articles.
sr. member
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September 19, 2013, 07:17:00 PM
Made a Devtome Blog:
http://devtome.blogspot.com/

I'm thinking whoevers article gets the most clicks in 1 month gets the adsense money... Or maybe the money just goes into Devcoin or Devtome somehow.

What do ya'll think? Should I start posting more articles?

Maybe crosslink articles with relevant info in Devtome and drive more traffic there? Speaking of I saw some Google Analytics for Devtome, but what does the AdSense look like? If we got more traffic to Devtome would AdSense increase at all?

~shakezula
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September 19, 2013, 07:03:31 PM
Made a Devtome Blog:
http://devtome.blogspot.com/

I'm thinking whoevers article gets the most clicks in 1 month gets the adsense money... Or maybe the money just goes into Devcoin or Devtome somehow.

What do ya'll think? Should I start posting more articles?
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 06:52:31 PM
... I recommend you go to khanacademy.com and look at some of he economics videos.  (Also, to wiser, this is a great site for homeschooling!)

Yup, Khan Academy is a great site Smiley

Oh and not trying to pick on any particular person, though was hoping to break up a fight (or at least send it somewhere else).  But using the edit feature here is very helpful to others when you have a lot to say but don't think of it all at once.  A good policy for everyone to follow IMHO.  I use it a lot myself LOL.

Edit:  I have a couple things to add, and had better follow my own advice and not double post LOL.

the developers of devcoin should close down the devtome for a while.
It can't take much more inflation, its value is near 0.  Shocked

It seems to me that any time there's a bump in the road with Devcoin or the Devtome, there's always someone making radical recommendations such as this one that would represent a major departure in the original way the Devcoin project (including how it's brought into circulation) was set up.  It makes me glad that UnthinkingBit (inventor--is that the right word?--of Devcoin) has a very cool head, carefully considers decisions he makes, especially ones which represent a significant change, and doesn't seem to be phased by much.  I think the principle of don't make a major decision during a crisis or don't turn your ship around in a storm is applicable here, even if the suggestion turns out to be a good one.  Also, in the long run, keeping things consistent is probably going to be the most important determining factor in the success of the project.  You certainly don't want to make people feel like there's no way to know what to expect from getting involved.

On another note, here's my advice for how to be successful as a Devtome writer.  I've done fairly well in all the rounds I've contributed to so far, and wish the best to all the new writers this round, many of whom I have signed up Smiley

http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=your_devtome_writing_success
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September 19, 2013, 06:47:53 PM
the developers of devcoin should close down the devtome for a while.
It can't take much more inflation, its value is near 0.  Shocked
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 06:39:08 PM
Starting from about page seventeen or so the thread about writing for devtome has started to get into shares ideas/concerns that affect more than just devtome; should probably have been posted in this thread instead of that one maybe in fact...

-MarkM-
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 06:30:17 PM
Can you two please wrap it up?  Suddenly in the past few days the DVC thread takes longer to read.  Can we stay on topic please.  Thanks Smiley

Edit:  BTW, someone had to correct me on double posting at one point, because I didn't know either.  The bottom line is that when you've just posted something, but then think of something else to say, you hit the edit button on your post, add the word "Edit," then share your additional thought, just like I did.  Then people who read the thread once or twice a day only have less to wade through.

+1 - important messages and topics are getting missed as every post is by FinShaggy.

Finshaggy please show some discipline in your posting and allow others to use this thread. Instead of posting multiple messages in a row, please put all your thoughts into one post, and allow time for others to post in between.

Please don't pick me out of a crowd when I am simply defending the coin. Devcoin is meant to pay artists and developers that wouldn't get paid otherwise, and they are here talking about how poor I am and acting like that means I am mooching. If I wasn't poor, I would have never came here.

And they started it by talking about my dead brother in another thread BEFORE coming to talk about my poverty, so again, please don't act as if I am the one causing any of this.

But I will stop replying to them, I am thinking about just putting Shakezula on ignore.

shakezula is awesome!  He helped me on a bunch of coins even though I didn't pay him very much, so I commend him for his generosity.  FinShaggy, I recommend you go to khanacademy.com and look at some of he economics videos.  (Also, to wiser, this is a great site for homeschooling!)

I created an account on khan academy after watching his netflix video pretty cool although the economics section was of no help to me, i like some of hte math courses!... def cool to check out and even apply in our school curriculums
hero member
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September 19, 2013, 06:24:30 PM
Probably the best guy to get for the job would be the one who actually came up with the new code aka created the new I0Coin.
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Maybe even the guy deserves to be on the tenured developers list, since he basically embarked on all this just to do it, that is, he seems to be a person who just goes ahead and does useful free open source development just for fun or just for the sake of doing it, and he seems to do good work.

I agree, whoever he is, he deserves to go on the share list. Please ask him to message Metazilla so he can get devcoins.
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 06:18:14 PM
Can you two please wrap it up?  Suddenly in the past few days the DVC thread takes longer to read.  Can we stay on topic please.  Thanks Smiley

Edit:  BTW, someone had to correct me on double posting at one point, because I didn't know either.  The bottom line is that when you've just posted something, but then think of something else to say, you hit the edit button on your post, add the word "Edit," then share your additional thought, just like I did.  Then people who read the thread once or twice a day only have less to wade through.

+1 - important messages and topics are getting missed as every post is by FinShaggy.

Finshaggy please show some discipline in your posting and allow others to use this thread. Instead of posting multiple messages in a row, please put all your thoughts into one post, and allow time for others to post in between.

Please don't pick me out of a crowd when I am simply defending the coin. Devcoin is meant to pay artists and developers that wouldn't get paid otherwise, and they are here talking about how poor I am and acting like that means I am mooching. If I wasn't poor, I would have never came here.

And they started it by talking about my dead brother in another thread BEFORE coming to talk about my poverty, so again, please don't act as if I am the one causing any of this.

But I will stop replying to them, I am thinking about just putting Shakezula on ignore.

shakezula is awesome!  He helped me on a bunch of coins even though I didn't pay him very much, so I commend him for his generosity.  FinShaggy, I recommend you go to khanacademy.com and look at some of he economics videos.  (Also, to wiser, this is a great site for homeschooling!)
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 06:08:08 PM
We could do it by paying based on clickthroughs, on the principle that if the video fails to convince the viewer to actually follow through by going to the site the video is promoting then the video failed to "convert" that viewer...

-MarkM-


Wow cool Mark! so this is already available? How does the current youtube viewership fees work? There's people that make tons of money just off youtube hits... but they aren't necessarily providing a link its their video's and thats it, the user doens't have to follow through?

clickthroughs are more advanced but really the goal is to pay based on views...a nd youtube will filter out ppl trying to scam for hits etc.... I dont expect every video to point to a url which you must click... some videos are informative only.
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September 19, 2013, 05:51:59 PM
Can you two please wrap it up?  Suddenly in the past few days the DVC thread takes longer to read.  Can we stay on topic please.  Thanks Smiley

Edit:  BTW, someone had to correct me on double posting at one point, because I didn't know either.  The bottom line is that when you've just posted something, but then think of something else to say, you hit the edit button on your post, add the word "Edit," then share your additional thought, just like I did.  Then people who read the thread once or twice a day only have less to wade through.

+1 - important messages and topics are getting missed as every post is by FinShaggy.

Finshaggy please show some discipline in your posting and allow others to use this thread. Instead of posting multiple messages in a row, please put all your thoughts into one post, and allow time for others to post in between.

Please don't pick me out of a crowd when I am simply defending the coin. Devcoin is meant to pay artists and developers that wouldn't get paid otherwise, and they are here talking about how poor I am and acting like that means I am mooching. If I wasn't poor, I would have never came here.

And they started it by talking about my dead brother in another thread BEFORE coming to talk about my poverty, so again, please don't act as if I am the one causing any of this.

But I will stop replying to them, I am thinking about just putting Shakezula on ignore.
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 05:45:08 PM
We could do it by paying based on clickthroughs, on the principle that if the video fails to convince the viewer to actually follow through by going to the site the video is promoting then the video failed to "convert" that viewer...

-MarkM-
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 05:34:08 PM
Is this possible? A distributed payment system allowing a devcoin payment based on 1000 hits on select youtube videos?

How would we pay via the mined dvc?
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September 19, 2013, 02:36:37 PM
Lol. Have fun with that.

I'm pretty sure there is no interest in turning the devcoin into any kind of elite coin.
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