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Topic: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 388. (Read 1059157 times)

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September 19, 2013, 01:36:54 PM

Damn dense. That's why I'm the newest DeVCoin Administrator. Thanks for asking! Enjoy your coin, I wish you lots of success with it.
And can I ask that someone ask Shakezula not to take this out on my articles. I'm pretty sure he's just a troll from Rollitup.org along with Haxxor and a few others. (did he show up after me?)
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September 19, 2013, 01:34:13 PM
Instead of spending the time to recode the coin or wallets, why not work to unionize the writers?
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September 19, 2013, 01:33:10 PM
Guys,

I like what MarkM said that we can do to avoid people abusing the system and to bring in people dedicated to the cause of devcoin. He brought something up that made me think, what he initially said was the devtome earner's reciever wallet should have atleast as many dvc as they would get by writing for the current round.

If we really wanted to raise the price and basically guarantee that writer's would not drop the price by 1 satoishi we can say that they would earn as many devcoins as they have in their wallets at any time. So after each round if the writer dumps some dvc they will need to buy the amount they intend to earn by writing. This is essentially a 0 sum proposition so that each user cannot negatively effect the price only positive at the same time giving the opportunity for writers to earn by writing.

At the very least we should assume that each round that many coins should exist in the reciever's wallet, this is to avoid the people who solely write and dump each round. I think this should be an essential requirement. Doesn't make sense that people are allowed to write 80k words and then dump right away without actually holding anything as collateral. This will not avoid the case where people will make a one time buy of devcoin and then continually earn and dump, but it is better than nothing and a good starting point.

Not only would this drive in quality material but also quality developers/writers as well who look out for the long term prospects of devcoin and not only the short term.

Based on feedback I think maybe in the future we can extend it for the 50% requirement and keep a tally of how much each person has earned so that the user will have a 0 sum if they cash in their dvc when they feel they are done writing.

How would this change come about? Would there be a vote or consensus among admins?
I don't care HOW MANY PEOPLE say that this doesn't matter, but Devcoin has been 10$ before. JUST LIKE THE 60,000,000 DVC dump DROPPED the price... If we Unionized, and no one sold DVC for under 1 Penny. And everyone BOUGHT Devcoins that were under a penny when they could, so that they were no longer listed. The price of the coin would INEVITABLY  be one penny.

And that is the power of trading. There are ways for this to happen, even without doing it through direct trade, EX:

When I start a Silver shop, I will be testing the silver and allowing people to view THEIR bar/round of silver tested for purity. Literally they can see the bar in their hand, and compare the serial number to the one in the video.

And this silver will be available for DVC. So people will see that they can buy pure silver with DVC, and they will want DVC or put a higher value on the DVC in their wallet.

Same would happen if ANY OTHER stores started opening.

And AS SOON as these things start happening, Devcoins value goes up. There's your incentive to hold.

HOLDING COINS DOES NOT MAKE THEM WORTH MORE
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 12:54:48 PM
Guys,

I like what MarkM said that we can do to avoid people abusing the system and to bring in people dedicated to the cause of devcoin. He brought something up that made me think, what he initially said was the devtome earner's reciever wallet should have atleast as many dvc as they would get by writing for the current round.

If we really wanted to raise the price and basically guarantee that writer's would not drop the price by 1 satoishi we can say that they would earn as many devcoins as they have in their wallets at any time. So after each round if the writer dumps some dvc they will need to buy the amount they intend to earn by writing. This is essentially a 0 sum proposition so that each user cannot negatively effect the price only positive at the same time giving the opportunity for writers to earn by writing.

At the very least we should assume that each round that many coins should exist in the reciever's wallet, this is to avoid the people who solely write and dump each round. I think this should be an essential requirement. Doesn't make sense that people are allowed to write 80k words and then dump right away without actually holding anything as collateral. This will not avoid the case where people will make a one time buy of devcoin and then continually earn and dump, but it is better than nothing and a good starting point.

Not only would this drive in quality material but also quality developers/writers as well who look out for the long term prospects of devcoin and not only the short term.

Based on feedback I think maybe in the future we can extend it for the 50% requirement and keep a tally of how much each person has earned so that the user will have a 0 sum if they cash in their dvc when they feel they are done writing.

How would this change come about? Would there be a vote or consensus among admins?
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September 19, 2013, 12:38:45 PM
I agree the above post is very informative.  One question:  How can I link directly to my forum signature?

Edit:  I included the link to my forum profile.  Did I do the right thing?

I actually don't remember. I don't have mine as DVC links anymore.
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 12:34:44 PM
I agree the above post is very informative.  One question:  How can I link directly to my forum signature?

Edit:  I included the link to my forum profile.  Did I do the right thing?

Edit:  Another question:  I thought links could be to pages which link to any article, or does it have to be the specific "Earn Devcoins by writing" page?
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September 19, 2013, 07:56:57 AM
To anyone trying to get started on Devtome, this is the perfect post.



I don't see your user page which should be at http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:oleole  So log in and go to this page and create it (top of page center link).

On your page place this below
==Collated==
*[[:Your Article Here]] - Source: Collated

==Original==
*[[:Your Article Here]] - Source: Original

==Link==
www.yourwebsitethatreferstodevtome.ifyouhaveone (optional and should point to http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=earn_devcoins_by_writing to earn a fractional marketing share)

==Signature==
link to your bitcointalk signature which has a link to http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=earn_devcoins_by_writing to get a fractional marketing share

==Tip==
Coin Address: hsghs55gf..........


Once you have your user page set up, to create an article page write this (this example is for an original article)
*[[:Your Article Here]] - Source: Original

Once you have done that, save your page and click on that link. Create that page as you did your user page (link at top of page - create page). The edit box will appear, place your text in it and save. Edit as needed to get the correct formatting, text appearance, and of course for grammar.

If you want to place any images in your article there are instructions here - http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devtome_how_to_post_an_image

Welcome to Devtome.




legendary
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September 19, 2013, 06:01:01 AM
you're on IRC right on the tbx and dvc channels? i have an idea just haven't had a chance to try it out. ill pm you later with it

I am knotwork (or sometimes knotwork_), on Freenode IRC.

-MarkM-
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September 19, 2013, 05:53:40 AM
you're on IRC right on the tbx and dvc channels? i have an idea just haven't had a chance to try it out. ill pm you later with it
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 05:46:59 AM
My pool that I still use privately used to give people 100% of the bitcoins, and convert all the other coins into DeVCoins to pay out.

But it just wasn't worth all the work of adding it all up and working out what it was all worth when only one user other than me actually used it.

If there was code for doing all that computation and there was more than one person who was going to use it, it might be worthwhile, but even if doing the math each month to work out how much I owed that one other guy only took an hour, it was an hour not worth spending, basically a total waste of time.

Even just a script that looks up how much bitcoin p2pool has paid each person since last the script was run would have helped a lot since then I could have paid everyone (aka that one guy) based on how many bitcoins p2pool had paid out. But I don't even know whether p2pool even keeps all the data such a script would need. (Historic list of all payouts to each miner.)

I have a p2pool mining bitcoins, devcoins, groupcoins, coiledcoins, geistgeld, namecoin, ixcoin and i0coin, all that is missing is a tool for paying out devcoins to miners based on how much bitcoin they mined there. I even have scripts posting the relative values of the coins for me to an include-file for shell-scripts that is put online as http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/latestrates.inc

But so far no luck eliciting such a tool (a divvy up the take tool) using bounties.

-MarkM-
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September 19, 2013, 05:42:12 AM
the plan is 100% devcoin, with merged mining on several sha coins. but there is a little twist to it which i will describe later when i get it all up and running
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 05:38:00 AM
GetWork Only. 0 fees until i patch the devcoin daemon to support GBT as i cant find one out there. The fee will be 1% after my 1 week promotional period(1 week after i have stratum running on the pool) . id like to claim the bounty for it if possible.

This is nice.  After this an quarter-devcoin pool or 10%-devcoin pool might work  (25% or 10% of earnings converted to devcoin).  I guess you might be able to receive the first part of the bounty, but as I am not an admin, you should most likely ask Unthinkingbit about that.
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September 19, 2013, 05:29:22 AM
Got a pool online. dvc.crypto-expert.com im currently mining on it

GetWork Only. 0 fees until i patch the devcoin daemon to support GBT as i cant find one out there. The fee will be 1% after my 1 week promotional period(1 week after i have stratum running on the pool) . id like to claim the bounty for it if possible.

EDIT: once i get stratum and a good enough hashrate would you guys be interested in PPS?

Why would anyone ever mine at a dvc only pool and not something like  bitparking or FuzzyPool
because im working on something different perhaps? such as merged mined coins auto converted to DVC? but no btc involved

Perhaps, but there was no indication of that in the first post,  nor does this post really flush it out enough to give a reason to use it.

true, me and unthinkingbit are still discussing it so ill release more info soon in another post
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September 19, 2013, 05:14:41 AM
Got a pool online. dvc.crypto-expert.com im currently mining on it

GetWork Only. 0 fees until i patch the devcoin daemon to support GBT as i cant find one out there. The fee will be 1% after my 1 week promotional period(1 week after i have stratum running on the pool) . id like to claim the bounty for it if possible.

EDIT: once i get stratum and a good enough hashrate would you guys be interested in PPS?

Why would anyone ever mine at a dvc only pool and not something like  bitparking or FuzzyPool
because im working on something different perhaps? such as merged mined coins auto converted to DVC? but no btc involved

Perhaps, but there was no indication of that in the first post,  nor does this post really flush it out enough to give a reason to use it.
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September 19, 2013, 04:41:27 AM
I published 50000 words on Devtome yesterday, I can't see myself on the round 27 or 28 list, should I be on one of those?   My username on Devtome is matt608 too (this is my first use of Devtome).  Just curious to make sure I'm in the system! Smiley

- here is my piece of writing btw http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=walkingupright

Welcome to Devtome.

Your article is in Round 28 so check http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devtome_stats for when that round ends and payouts start. Your page at http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:matt608 needs to be formatted a bit. Place this ==Original== above your article listing. Also if you would like to get a partial share you can place the signature link at http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=earn_devcoins_by_marketing in your bitcointalk signature, just be sure to include it in your user page as per the directions.

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I might do some link building to earn some more DVC and it would be useful to know which keywords I should be aiming for and for their corresponding pages.
In regards to your PM I will answer it (partially) here as I think it's good for all - link building to increase traffic is desired. The more links there are to Devtome articles, the better. One of the goals is to make Devtome profitable through advertising, and advertisers like to see traffic.


From http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devtome_analytics



Ok all done, thanks.
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September 19, 2013, 04:29:35 AM
Got a pool online. dvc.crypto-expert.com im currently mining on it

GetWork Only. 0 fees until i patch the devcoin daemon to support GBT as i cant find one out there. The fee will be 1% after my 1 week promotional period(1 week after i have stratum running on the pool) . id like to claim the bounty for it if possible.

EDIT: once i get stratum and a good enough hashrate would you guys be interested in PPS?

Why would anyone ever mine at a dvc only pool and not something like  bitparking or FuzzyPool
because im working on something different perhaps? such as merged mined coins auto converted to DVC? but no btc involved
sr. member
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Merit: 250
September 19, 2013, 03:33:19 AM
Got a pool online. dvc.crypto-expert.com im currently mining on it

GetWork Only. 0 fees until i patch the devcoin daemon to support GBT as i cant find one out there. The fee will be 1% after my 1 week promotional period(1 week after i have stratum running on the pool) . id like to claim the bounty for it if possible.

EDIT: once i get stratum and a good enough hashrate would you guys be interested in PPS?

Why would anyone ever mine at a dvc only pool and not something like  bitparking or FuzzyPool
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September 18, 2013, 10:00:56 PM

The account file is at:
http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/account_27.csv

There were 646 original receiver lines, so the average number of devcoins per share is 180,000,000 dvc / 646 = 278,638 dvc. Administrator pay is 84.0 shares, 13.0 percent of the total. The value at vircurex is 0.375 mcbtc/dvc, which works out to 0.104 btc. The bitstamp price of 128$, gives a share price of 13$.

People on that list will start getting those coins in round 27, starting at block 108,000. The procedure for generating the receiver files is at:
http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin#generating_the_files

The next bounties will go into round 28:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/bounty_28.csv


I published 50000 words on Devtome yesterday, I can't see myself on the round 27 or 28 list, should I be on one of those?   My username on Devtome is matt608 too (this is my first use of Devtome).  Just curious to make sure I'm in the system! Smiley

- here is my piece of writing btw http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=walkingupright

Well if you first posted yesterday you would have already missed round 27.  Did you just recently register on devtome?  I've only been here for 1 round but before I was put on the receiver list  or whatnot I had to have my submitted articles OKed by an admin.
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September 18, 2013, 09:19:22 PM
DVC is merge-mined (you won't find many pure-DVC pools...).

Go check out Bitparking. They merge-mine many coins.
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September 18, 2013, 07:02:40 PM
who can't give me a good dvc pool link address
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