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legendary
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What happened with Devcoin Ventures?

It looks like I've missed updates, and they are not in this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2001211

member
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I agree with you with all you have said, it is rather better to use open source licenses. I will never give my money to companies such as Adobe. At this moment, due to my experience and free time, I can't manage to work with an open source alternative. But this doesn't mean that the work I create will be propietary work.

It is the actual product I am concerned about. A movie that you need a proprietary viewer to view is not suitable, it has to be in a codex that is open source and that has open source viewers available to view it.

Even if any open source viewers can view it, the actual media itself, the codex, the file they tell the viewer to display, should be an open source codex/format/type.

People should not need to use flash to see the thing.

Also, re "Being open source does mean that its source code is available for everybody to view, edit and redistribute it. The fact that Adobe Flash is not open source does not mean that the works created with it can't be open source.", we support free open source, not all open source. Commercial, proprietary etc open source does not qualify. Free as in freedom - to re-use, base derivative works on, alter, re-arrange, re-purpose, distribute, redistribute (all these freedoms go with it to those it is distributed to) etc - not necessarily free as in beer.

-MarkM-

I'm not sure if this is still under discussion, but IMO it shouldn't matter what software is used to make the video. That'd be if I made a Devcoin logo in Photoshop (not free or open source), then saved it as a PNG image and uploaded it with a CC license. The logo itself is free and open. Similarly, I could write some open source code in Visual Studio, and the code would still be open source. Or I could write an article on Devtome using a proprietary keyboard on my proprietary laptop...
legendary
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And yes, that needs to be fixed. I confirmed that there's no trashbin on my side either. An alternative for the time being could be using the "upload update" or whatever it is. Not sure how it works though.

I think 'upload update' overwrites your original image, assuming you use the same name. This would allow some one to update charts etc with new data without relinking images in articles. It's possible you could rename your image that you upload too - but I haven't tied that yet. So if you are uploading test.jpg, you can specify folder location and final name of image, so test.jpg could become graph.jpg. 

As long as it overwrites, it could be used as an alternative to remove improper images (just upload a blank one in its place). Of course it's better to allow direct deletion though.
legendary
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Looking at https://www.dokuwiki.org/mime it appears that : swf    application/x-shockwave-flash   and   mp3    audio/mpeg   and    ogg    audio/ogg    and   wav    audio/wav  may be embedded in Devtome pages through MIME configuration. Some one would have to confirm as I'm not familiar with MIME.

Regarding images there is a PHP config that can limit uploaded maximum file/image sizes. This would be desirable going forwards if mega sized images get uploaded.  https://www.dokuwiki.org/faq:uploadsize

At present it appears that images can not be deleted due to a missing toolbar. You can check this by going to http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=start&ns=wiki&tab_files=files&do=media&tab_details=view&image=fheenix%3Atest.jpg  and clicking on an image. I use this page as an example as if these images were deleted, no harm would be done. When you click on an image a new box shows that allows you metadata.

Looking at https://www.dokuwiki.org/media_manager#layout you can see a similar view in their example, but with the toolbar at the top right above each image. Note the trashcan icon. I would suggest this be enabled should some one post undesired images i.e. porn etc.



Since when is porn undesirable? :p

And yes, that needs to be fixed. I confirmed that there's no trashbin on my side either. An alternative for the time being could be using the "upload update" or whatever it is. Not sure how it works though.
legendary
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oops haha yea
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1 dvc buys more than a million right now nicceee

Do you mean one Bitcoin buys more than a million DevCoins?
legendary
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1 dvc buys more than a million right now nicceee
sr. member
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Can anyone verify if I'm thinking/reading right? Is the coins per share payout for round 24 140,995 coins per share? That's what I saw on receiver_24.csv, just wonder if that's right. If I'm up for 30+ shares, does that mean I'm going to get 3M+ coins?

Cheesy
legendary
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Maybe Canadian youtube doesn't have the conversion to HTML5 in place yet or something?
What version of Firefox are you using? You may to enable HTML  video in YouTube by going to https://www.youtube.com/html5. Not all videos are converted and videos that the submitter have marked as requiring ads will still use flash. For the latter to work they're waiting for browsers to support the Media Source Extensions API. This is currently being worked on for Firefox.
legendary
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I think the objection was not to gambling but to the Satoshi Dice spamming the blockchain with dust/crap/garbage used to signal wins and losses.

A normal gambling concept where the website tells you directly on the website that you lost instead of filling every user's disk with useless garbage "so and so lost at gambling!" messages seems reasonable.

To confirm, the bounty would be only for a normal gambling website, not for something like Satoshi Dice that bloats the block chain.


Wouldn't it be fine if it were like SatoshiDice but held the funds in a user account so you have to choose when to withdraw or something? That would solve the bloat.
hero member
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I think the objection was not to gambling but to the Satoshi Dice spamming the blockchain with dust/crap/garbage used to signal wins and losses.

A normal gambling concept where the website tells you directly on the website that you lost instead of filling every user's disk with useless garbage "so and so lost at gambling!" messages seems reasonable.

To confirm, the bounty would be only for a normal gambling website, not for something like Satoshi Dice that bloats the block chain.
legendary
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Hmm? Flash works fine on Ubuntu... never had an issue in the past.

Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, maybe like Debian it has built in handling for it.

I did yum search gnash and found it. so i installed it and restarted firefox but still that youtube page insisted i need a plugin that i do not have. looking more closely at the yum utput though there is a gnash-plugin... But youtube is being picky, it still insists I need an *Adobe* flash player.

According to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash gnash often cannot play sound because often sound in flash uses mp3, which is encumbered by patents.

The page did though show me that i should remove nspluginwrapper; presumably that is what keeps saying I need an adobe viewer.

Ok starting to see something, now some audio errors to deal with but looks like it might at least work for visuals and hopefully if people say anyt6hing worth hearing there will be transcripts to read.

It wants me to install gstreamer-ffmpeg but yum denies knowledge of any such package.

There don't actually seem to be any visuals either, apparently it is using some codec that also isn't available or isn't present or something, maybe the one that someone mentinoed earlier as not being available yet.

-MarkM-



I'm not on Ubuntu right now but there's a Flash program on the program browser that works perfectly. I can't think of what the name is but I think it's classified as a "flash alternative."
legendary
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Hmm? Flash works fine on Ubuntu... never had an issue in the past.

Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, maybe like Debian it has built in handling for it.

I did yum search gnash and found it. so i installed it and restarted firefox but still that youtube page insisted i need a plugin that i do not have. looking more closely at the yum utput though there is a gnash-plugin... But youtube is being picky, it still insists I need an *Adobe* flash player.

According to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash gnash often cannot play sound because often sound in flash uses mp3, which is encumbered by patents.

The page did though show me that i should remove nspluginwrapper; presumably that is what keeps saying I need an adobe viewer.

Ok starting to see something, now some audio errors to deal with but looks like it might at least work for visuals and hopefully if people say anyt6hing worth hearing there will be transcripts to read.

It wants me to install gstreamer-ffmpeg but yum denies knowledge of any such package.

There don't actually seem to be any visuals either, apparently it is using some codec that also isn't available or isn't present or something, maybe the one that someone mentinoed earlier as not being available yet.

-MarkM-


adobe flash player is no big risk if correctly done with apparmor Smiley
also running/installing flash on *nix is trivial...
legendary
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Hmm? Flash works fine on Ubuntu... never had an issue in the past.

Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, maybe like Debian it has built in handling for it.

I did yum search gnash and found it. so i installed it and restarted firefox but still that youtube page insisted i need a plugin that i do not have. looking more closely at the yum utput though there is a gnash-plugin... But youtube is being picky, it still insists I need an *Adobe* flash player.

According to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash gnash often cannot play sound because often sound in flash uses mp3, which is encumbered by patents.

The page did though show me that i should remove nspluginwrapper; presumably that is what keeps saying I need an adobe viewer.

Ok starting to see something, now some audio errors to deal with but looks like it might at least work for visuals and hopefully if people say anyt6hing worth hearing there will be transcripts to read.

It wants me to install gstreamer-ffmpeg but yum denies knowledge of any such package.

There don't actually seem to be any visuals either, apparently it is using some codec that also isn't available or isn't present or something, maybe the one that someone mentinoed earlier as not being available yet.

-MarkM-

legendary
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Could I ask is an gamble site for dvc not encouraged? somebody who I forgot told me  days ago. I want to develop a gamble site for btc, and it may not be hard to modify and suitable for dvc too. If not couraged, I'd put this on hold.

Kumala made a devcoin lottery site many months ago, and he abandoned it because of lack of interest. However, devcoin has a much bigger market capitalization today, so they'll be more interest. I suggest a small bounty, 6 shares then 3, are there any objections?

I forgot to add before, another useful addition to the faucet would be to pay people for links to devtome from an outside site. The faucet would check to see if there is a link to devtome, and if there is send devcoins to the devcoin address on that page. Then a random time later it would check to see if the link is still there, and if so send more devcoins. This would only be for the developer of the prime faucet, and if it is not developed after two months the bounty would be opened to anyone. I suggest 6 shares for the first part, and another 6 for waiting a random time, for a total of twelve shares, are there any objections?

Also, if after a week the writing earnings rate exceeds last month's average rate, I'll double all the bounties that were doubled the last time and any new bounties that have not been sent in part.


I think the objection was not to gambling but to the Satoshi Dice spamming the blockchain with dust/crap/garbage used to signal wins and losses.

A normal gambling concept where the website tells you directly on the website that you lost instead of filling every user's disk with useless garbage "so and so lost at gambling!" messages seems reasonable.

-MarkM-
legendary
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Thinking i can now watch youtube videos due to their supposed conversion for my browser or whatever, I clicked this link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmPD_YSQ--k

in a thread in harware section.

Notice the little 'CA' by the youtube logo even though the URL says it is youtube.com not youtube.ca.

Maybe Canadian youtube doesn't have the conversion to HTML5 in place yet or something?

As that link just gives me an "install flash" thing, which might for all I know (or care, by now) end up only giving me some ancient version that isn't up to date enough to even work.

I have given up on trying to deal with flash since they already told me last time around that they have no intention of supporting Linux.

-MarkM-


Hmm? Flash works fine on Ubuntu... never had an issue in the past.
legendary
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Thinking i can now watch youtube videos due to their supposed conversion for my browser or whatever, I clicked this link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmPD_YSQ--k

in a thread in harware section.

Notice the little 'CA' by the youtube logo even though the URL says it is youtube.com not youtube.ca.

Maybe Canadian youtube doesn't have the conversion to HTML5 in place yet or something?

As that link just gives me an "install flash" thing, which might for all I know (or care, by now) end up only giving me some ancient version that isn't up to date enough to even work.

I have given up on trying to deal with flash since they already told me last time around that they have no intention of supporting Linux.

-MarkM-
legendary
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For me some articles require tables and graphs but normally I cite the works used as in academic papers under the terms of fair usage.  It is definitely not to earn that 10 words.

All my images are mine so I don't have to worry about any of that stuff, :p.
hero member
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For me some articles require tables and graphs but normally I cite the works used as in academic papers under the terms of fair usage.  It is definitely not to earn that 10 words.
hero member
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Photos will always be subjective though. What I consider perfect art (and what people may pay millions for) you may think is ugly as crap. What you may be willing to pay for I may think is crap. This would cause a lot of problems...
I completely agree, just making and agreeing with the point about not dumping every image one owns onto devtome. But somehow also finding a way to not discriminate against those with a real interest in and skill in photography and art but not writing (if that's where it's going, which it may not yet be)
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