Topic: Dwarf FPGA – the anti-ASIC - page 43. (Read 43440 times)

I am going to guess it’s much simpler to develop on stand-alone card with working display, rather than getting the network stack and web server running first.

I have seen a picture with the molex connector connected to the board and inside a plastic bag. Maybe that's how it will be shipped (with the cost of a molex connector that would be nice if it was in the package)

Maybe it's obvious to others, but I don't understand why there is a VGA connector on this board?  I understand why there is a NIC, but what useful purpose or added value does the VGA output provide?  What info can we see on the VGA output that we can't get via the NIC?  POST info?

Why does the board use screw terminals for power connection instead of the standard 4-pin Molex connector?
Please consider producing the next 25,000 units with the usual 4-pin Molex connector so we can easily connect to ATX power supply.

--And who knows whether the next fork will be adaptable for this or other FPGAs.
I will be honest - no one knows. But until now we are seeing a binding to the CPU architecture. This reduces the likelihood of sharp turns.
Usually, ASICs crystal manufactures unchanged. This means you can add one XOR to the algorithm and the hash will be rejected by pool.
we combined the unchanged part and the FPGA. this increases flexibility, but does not make it absolute, of course.

--You should have done this first.
It's true. And it will be done soon.

--Alipay is good if you can implement it.
--When will you be on AliExpress?
--Can you give us some more information about you/your company?
Highly likely in the next batch. Our Chinese colleague is working hard on this.
There are a few problems with the developers's copyright  in China's law.

--When will PayPal be available again?
At the moment we posting a limited number of orders for big lots in the paypal only.

--can you mine to a pool address with the FPGA and share the address?
We have three prototypes only. Now they are in the factory as references.

--I propose you to save these order/reserve the miners for users who chose to go with paypal.
we are thinking about this. Perhaps we will offer a discount in next batch to all those affected.

--Collect and pay in person possible ? :-)
If you are ready to buy more than a dozen and arrive in China, we offer a small prepayment and the rest in cash.

--He should have stated he would like to send out demo units, but he does not have them to send instead of what appears to the community to be evasive and somewhat arrogant stance of "we don't have to".
I was misunderstood. The man was proving to me that we would not sell anything. I replied that we are successfully selling, no more.
The same is about my sarcasm about "vigilant users". Many people understood this literally.

--Now with the announcement there is no Paypal or refundable option
We have an account in a European bank. This is a SWIFT system. This is a completely legitimate transactions with a refind.

--It does make sense if you plan to ship from China
All devices are manufactured in China. It's logical to send them from there. Cooperation with aliexpress will reduce the cost of shipping too.

--there are many I am sure would be willing to broker a deal of X units.
The total cost of the batch reaches two million euros. It's not a good idea to posting them through "Phil"

--Discussed this vaporware miner along with others yesterday along with other options if anyone is interested
Thank you

--Refund fee is typically 0.35 EUR.
If you do not take money out from the account. I counted the full cycle loses.

--I'm still puzzled why you keep talking about the seller running away.
A few years ago I was in a similar situation. I bought the goods and the seller ran away. Two weeks later I tried to get a refund and did not receive anything - the seller's account was empty. I am touched reasoning about 45-days protection.

--It has ~7000 views as of now. Dwarf claims to have sold nearly 5000 units. That would be a truly miraculous 50%+ conversion rate. Actually more than that - they made that claim when the thread had barely 6000 views.
80% of orders for 4 pcs.
Some people buy more than one hundred pieces. But these orders pass by the store.

--Whether it's Alibaba or another, escrow would satisfy a lot of people.
Most importantly, this will automate the processing. We will not survive 25,000 pieces manualy...

This sounds like the solution. Whether it's Alibaba or another, escrow would satisfy a lot of people. Or at the very least a way to pay using credit card.

It's pretty obvious a lot of people would be ordering multiple units. So those numbers are a bit irrelevant. I'm not saying any of this has any merit, just saying thread view numbers and units sold have little correlation in this context.

Well, here's some food for thought:

This thread is the only place where they promote their site. It has ~7000 views as of now. Dwarf claims to have sold nearly 5000 units. That would be a truly miraculous 50%+ conversion rate. Actually more than that - they made that claim when the thread had barely 6000 views.

Even if they're legit - they're still liars and bigly incompetent, which in the end probably yields a similar result for the buyers as a scam would.

Hi, guys, somebody has bought this FPGA  and its work in fact ?,  all these "fantastic numbers" seen scam .....

Orders are in reserve for 5 days.

Maybe it would be more logical to do this at the end of sales? But not in the first week?

Yesterday you talked about 45-days refund. Today you are not happy again. If tomorrow I will return PayPal what reason will you come up with? You must to decide.

So far, no one has written that his money was not refunded.

I am in import export bness. One of the rule is to keep at least one perfect sample with you. It has many uses like matching it with the shipment if all the specification are exact. Manufacturer will also not to try to cut corners if he knows you have the sample. This is applicable to all industries and is standard practice.

You are lucky...I think they are going to go with the OVER 45 days when PayPal no longer allows disputes...so IF it gets to that point

and anyone reading this (hopefully you paid by credit card when you went the Paypal route) put in a DISPUTE before the 45-day deadline...

IF it is the 45-day PayPal scam, I think credit cards are 60 days(maybe) and thus, if again I remember right, you with the dispute can

extend the deadline to 60 days to decide to pull the plug...so those who have paid...pay attention to the 45-day limit....if it is a Paypal

45-day scam..there will 'production problems and please be patient posts' and your money will go, poof,****..thus past that deadline they have you...

(or at least that was how this type of thing was played out in 2014..when we saw a mess of them)

hope I'm wrong and the product exists...but all these NEWBIE endorsements and no review by a trusted member on bitcointalk...

I think this is unlikely

Also on previous 45-day PayPal scams, THEY ALWAYS CANCEL PAYPAL FIRST ...that is always a given...



the stats could very well be made up...if it is a scam...and again looking at such...

I suspect once they update the store stats with the refunded units from Payal that figure will climb back up. 

Apparently they have only a thousand or so units left to sell so there is no point for them to use escrow now.
There are plently of gulible/risky people like me to empty their stock (bought 4)

What country are you in? Refund fee is typically 0.35 EUR. You might be talking about a chargeback fee but even that is 16 EUR, not 30 EUR. Can you provide a link to the fees you're talking about?

I'm still puzzled why you keep talking about the seller running away. You're the seller. Are you planning to run away?

+1, you should really think about implementing that. There is still time before units are ready for shipping. 18 days from now...

You should simply utilize a forum escrow that is reputable . . there are many I am sure would be willing to broker a deal of X units.

Phil for example is notorious here esp. for services like this or I would even be willing to escrow a batch of orders . . there are over 300 videos w/ my face in them lol

Also the obnoxious lime green . . please.  .not again lol

Discussed this vaporware miner along with others yesterday along with other options if anyone is interested
https://youtu.be/r_SLyj_TlUI

Well, that is unfortunate.

Unless there is a third-party payment option with protection, this is a no-go for me.

Well, I have no problem to send you payment via paypal and 30 euro by bank.
I will no risk that you disappear, and you will not loose any money if I disappear.

I don't understand why do you activate alibaba escrow. It cost less than paypal. Isn't that crazy like Paypal can be.
I use normally since a couple of year when importing from China.
And its offered by ALL the company or people listed on ALibaba.

It does make sense if you plan to ship from China, UNLESS you can't make an invoice.

Well at least some of the responses by the OP make sense.  They don't have the working demo units to be able to send to people to try.  He should have stated he would like to send out demo units, but he does not have them to send instead of what appears to the community to be evasive and somewhat arrogant stance of "we don't have to".

Secondly which is a little more concerning is the response that if they sent out demo units the time frame would be lengthened and the coin would fork.  This raises 2 questions immediately to me.  
1. It shouldn't take that long for a trusted member to power on, take some pictures, and validate the unit to the community.  So that really is a non-argument.  But as pointed out in the first item they don't units to send.  So that is probably the real explanation.  
2. If he sent out demo units the coin would fork?  So are we saying we think that the coin will fork and brick these units in just a couple of months?  And how hard is it to make the code change and load them on these units?  You now raise some serious concerns about the shelf life of this product and or the ability to respond to a fork with updates in a timely manner.

Now with the announcement there is no Paypal or refundable option this really closes the doors for most people trying to avoid risk.  Without any assurance that the purchase is protected on an unproven product you now have an uphill battle.  

Your last option to provide some assurance may be to use one of the escrows here on the forum that is well known and trusted.  This way payment is made, held until units verified, and funds released.