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March 09, 2015, 05:03:15 AM
so what is supposed to happen in 2015.75?

One specific event that is expected, is for the German DAX to peak and "terminally" decline from there.

Essentially the confidence in core Europe's sovereign debt should have an turning point towards a terminal decline. That might be precipitated by a more visible loss of confidence in the periphery of Europe on that turning point.

Japan should follow in 2016.

This will cause an acceleration of capital flow into the USA, driving the USA stocks to a phase transition bubble near 40,000 by 2017. The Fed will react by raising interest rates, seeing this as an opportunity to unwind their balance sheet and to pretend to be protecting the 99% against the 1% who profit on stocks. (Note Armstrong doesn't seem to understand the Fed will do this because TPTB want the masses to beg for their own demise, its all part of the master plan towards a one-world reserve currency and global Technocracy. Armstrong doesn't understand that at Bilderberg meetings a smaller group of less than a dozen meet to discuss the real plan for the world, he isn't inside the top most circle)

This rise in interest rates will cause the rest of the world (which is short the dollar due to borrowing all the QE which ended up invested outside the USA) to collapse, thus killing the USA exports from both reduced international demand and a stronger dollar.

USA should thus follow into terminal decline in 2017.

Dominoes falling...
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March 09, 2015, 04:56:27 AM
so what is supposed to happen in 2015.75?
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March 09, 2015, 04:01:06 AM
The Knowledge Age in action in Chile!

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/yerka-the-unstealable-bike

Also Chile looks like a nice place in this video.

Again note the crime in Latin America is elevated, and maybe that is because they have shorter index fingers (sign of elevated neo-natal testosterone), c.f. my post upthread about the longest penises (other than the Congo) being in South America.
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March 09, 2015, 01:47:16 AM
BurtW arrested:

The indictment says:

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BURTON WAGNER,
 did knowingly conduct, control, manage, supervise, direct, or own all or part of an unlicensed money transmitting business affecting interstate and foreign commerce, to wit, a digital currency exchange business which (A) operated without an appropriate money transmitting license in a state where such operation is punishable as a misdemeanor or felony under state law; (B) failed to comply with the money transmitting business regulations under Section 5330 of Title 31, United States Code, and regulations prescribed thereunder; and (C) involved the transport and transmission of funds that were known to the defendant to have been derived from a criminal offense

I wonder what that's about. I doubt that he was knowingly helping the Silk Road or anything like that...


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/03/09/china-copies-nsa-but-by-legislation/

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China Copies NSA but by Legislation

China will most likely pass a very far-reaching counter-terrorism act which adopts by legislation everything the NSA has been doing illegally behind the scenes and Congress along with Obama have endorsed. China will require technology firms to hand over encryption keys and install security “backdoors” just as the NSA has done secretly.

...

The National People’s Congress has proposed that all companies must also keep servers and user data within China, and supply their law enforcement authorities with communications records and censor terrorism-related internet content. What made the internet work has been the freedom it brought. That is governments are encroaching on and in the process, the exponential growth curve [of the internet] will begin to decline.

For Asia to rise in the Knowledge Age, this Technocracy has to be demolished.

It is time for an untraceable internet to rise. The market is ready. Tor isn't it because it has failed recently on a huge scale to protect hidden servers from the NSA. And the Tor project has admitted that Tor is deficient for hidden servers.



http://www.ieee-security.org/TC/SP2013/papers/4977a080.pdf

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2013 IEEE Symposium on Security and Privacy

Trawling for Tor Hidden Services: Detection, Measurement, Deanonymization

Contributions:
• We give a method to measure the popularity of any
hidden service without the consent of the hidden service
operator.
• We show how connectivity to selected hidden services
can be denied by impersonating all of their responsible
hidden services directories.
• We demonstrate a technique that allows one to harvest
hidden service descriptors (and thus get a global picture
of all hidden services in Tor) in approximately 2 days
using only a modest amount of resources.
• We show how to reveal the guard nodes of a Tor hidden
service.
• We propose a large-scale opportunistic deanonymiza-
tion attack, capable of revealing IP addresses of a
significant fraction of Tor’s hidden services over a one
year period of time.

Note the primary methodology employed is the Sybil attack, which has been one of my main design points about how to build a superior onion network:

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Most of our attacks are made practical and cost efficient by
two implementation deficiencies in the current versions of
Tor: (1) Tor relays can cheat and inflate their bandwidth
in the consensus despite bandwidth measurements; this
makes them more likely to be chosen by the path selection
algorithm. (2) Using a technique called “shadowing” we can
phase relays in and out of the consensus at will without them
losing their flags, allowing us to defeat countermeasures
against Sybil [8] attacks.
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March 08, 2015, 04:16:12 PM
How ironic it will be if the pandemic materializes and it can be carried and spread by those who are vaccinated, but under age 65 have a very low mortality rate if vaccinated but the over 65 get basically no immune response from the vaccine.

So then after all these years of boomers being selfish with their time, they will have to choose between living isolated from their grand kids or the significant risk of a very painful death.

I was reading how symptoms of the 1918 Spanish flu were somewhat similar to Ebola in the sense of bleeding through the nose and suffocating (gasping for air) on one's own blood filled lungs.

The videos of those gasping for air after being poisoned with nerve gas in Syria come to mind.

The Black death solved the excess in labor that had impeded the Industrial Revolution from forming in Europe.

Perhaps the 2019 pandemic will solve the unfunded liabilities problem which is politically holding back the adjustment to the Knowledge Age computer revolution.

I am not enjoying these thoughts.  Cry
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March 08, 2015, 03:12:12 PM
"Economic Devastation" is a wonderful thread.  Look at how long it has endured and how many read here and comment.  The nature of financial thought, IMO, especially if one is carefully constructing comments so that others may understand and appreciate, is one that invites careful consideration among your counterparts.

I believe one of the reasons the back and forth between between iamback and I is fruitful is because my own personal filters and biases compensate well for his areas of excess.

Take the following.

It saddens me that you have poor logic skills (well it is not surprising, because that is what makes me an excellent programmer is my extraordinary 100th percentile logic skills). Why can't you grasp that the cyclical models are generated from data and correlation and have no human interpretation involved in their generation. Thus for you to present logic about Armstrong's personality and human flaws is entirely irrelevant.

I don't think you've ever won a logic debate with me yet. The one time you've made very strong logic was in private where you pointed out clearly the reasons why you probably had until at least early 2017 to make an exit from the USA, because of several factors. And I commended you on those insights and immediately saw the astute logic you had employed. I was beginning to gain respect for you.

But this latest from you is extremely subjective and illogical.

What I see when reading this is the following:

(words and self confidence)... the cyclical models are generated from data and correlation and have no human interpretation involved in their generation....  Armstrong's personality and human flaws is (are therefore) entirely irrelevant.
(excessive self confidence   Cheesy)... (more words).
this latest from you is (wrong for the above reason).

Others would focus on different parts of the above post and discourse would get sidetracked. iamback always has a reasonable argument in his posts. Sometimes it is just buried a bit.
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March 08, 2015, 02:44:40 PM
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Brown/black and blue is what I see, no changes.  But I did see somewhere (Drudge?, somewhere) pictures of apparently the same dress in different lighting conditions, and yep, different colors.

Perhaps they slyly used materials that have that effect in different lighting...
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March 08, 2015, 02:40:26 PM
Shit that dress was gold and white again and slowly morphed to blue and black over about 3 seconds! Is anybody else getting this effect?

Its one of those rare images that is perfectly ambiguous. Final color assigned probably depends on low level estimates your brain is making about ambient lighting. I cannot see it as anything other then white and gold no matter how long I look at it. Some, see it as shifting between the two colors, and others can only see it as blue and black.

Its a good example of how a the same data set can be interpreted differently by different brains Wink

Edit: for those who see it only in white and gold like myself. I figured out how to see it as black and blue. If you bring up the picture on a tablet or cell phone and then rotate the device 45-75 degrees away from your eyes it reduces the brightness of the picture and makes it easier to see the darker colors.
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March 08, 2015, 02:36:18 PM
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iamback

The topics you typically discuss are inherently difficult.  And you discuss a lot of them.

Perhaps a better way to success (here: demonstrating that a certain point or idea is superior to another) is to maybe discuss FEWER ideas...  Smaller bites.  Fewer topics that require research that takes time to do, to think about and to verify.  This is the way good educators teach to the masses...

We are not all programmers, especially me.  What, about 1% are programmers?  (hmm..., that 1% business again)

"Economic Devastation" is a wonderful thread.  Look at how long it has endured and how many read here and comment.  The nature of financial thought, IMO, especially if one is carefully constructing comments so that others may understand and appreciate, is one that invites careful consideration among your counterparts.

"Bite-sized" ideas and consideration for the fact that most here at "Devastation" are NOT programmers slinging the zing at the slower students may yield better understanding of Armstrong's ideas and yours as well.  An organization (the name of the organization is unimportant) wrote long ago:

Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion...

Contributing your thoughts in an attractive and inviting manner here will win them more consideration.  And as we understand them better, the entire set of conversations will become enhanced...

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That dress has become famous on the web for its color-shifting, smile,,,
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March 08, 2015, 02:22:41 PM
Shit that dress was gold and white again and slowly morphed to blue and black over about 3 seconds! Is anybody else getting this effect?
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March 08, 2015, 02:11:56 PM
Also, frank discussion is fine.  But, IMO it is not, ahh, simple human kindness and courtesy to disparage others for not catching a fairly difficult point you are trying to make.  Armstrong seems to be insensitive as well.  Perhaps this is the way super-bright guys think...

We all can't even be on the same page, if you all are not up-to-speed on accepting Armstrong's models as facts, or at least presenting solid, unarguable counter examples that aren't subjective minutiae about his personality and not his models' performance. I have expended enormous effort to try to move us along towards both understanding (and hopefully some technical solutions forthcoming too Wink, if my health cooperates).

If you are dealing with computer programmers, get used to sarcasm and unadulterated humiliation for not being a sharp tool. You can spend some time over at Eric Raymond's blog (esr.ibiblio.org) for a taste of hackerdom.

I am mild in comparison and got my a$$ handed to me numerous times by Eric Raymond and his regulars, and even gmaxell and his ilk on this forum.

My impatience is also because 2015.75 is almost here and I am way behind on my preparations. Also I am highly stressed trying to pull all-niters on coding while battling severe chronic illness that often makes it a battle for me to have sufficient energy to lift my forehead off the keyboard (literally!).

I don't have any patience for dumb, petty shit. Please.

Btw you can also ship your gold internationally from the USA. I can recommend First State Depository.
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March 08, 2015, 01:59:30 PM
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CoinCube

Yes, I saw that at ZH last night.  The time to have moved gold from your "Home Country" to "Plan B" was yesterday...  I did.

But not 27 kg of gold, ay que pena!

JUST for everyone's possible future reference, you may take ANY amount of cash, gold and other very liquid investments (or "negotiable instruments") out of the USA with you.  But, if the total value is over $10,000 per person per trip you must report it on a Customs form available (but not easy to find) at international airports.  So, our pals at .gov will know if you take out a large amount, but no one else (we presume and hope) will.

Re smaller amounts (say 5 oz Au, or $5000, TOTAL) you do not have to report.

Many countries (inc. Peru) have similar regulations, I think Peru's case is, surprise!, $10,000 as well.

iamback

The OROBTC guy has a very weak Sarcasm and Bullshit Meter.  In fact, it barely functions at all.   I like humor as much as the next guy (in fact I send out jokes to some 50 people via "mass" emails on occasion), but sarcasm (IMO) ought to either be marked or drop-dead clear...  No need to confuse people.  The fact that sarcasm is hard for many people to detect in writing is the fact that written words often do not offer up the obvious clues that many smart people think ARE obvious.

Also, frank discussion is fine.  But, IMO it is not, ahh, simple human kindness and courtesy to disparage others for not catching a fairly difficult point you are trying to make.  Armstrong seems to be insensitive as well.  Perhaps this is the way super-bright guys think...

Smiley
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March 08, 2015, 11:21:53 AM
These risks of seizure of our assets (even if completely innocent of anything) mean having quiet assets (gold, even Bitcoin) is more important than the usual arguments.  Having BTC100 in a Ledger Nano, for example, means a certain freedom in that the +/- $23,000 would be easy to get past TSA en-route to "Plan B".

That's one of Bitcoin's greatest features: easy capital mobility.

In the future it seems likely that moving any form of precious metals over national borders will become increasingly difficult.

North Korean Diplomat Caught Smuggling 27 Kilos, Or $1.7 Million, In Gold
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-07/north-korean-diplomat-caught-smuggling-27-kilos-or-17-million-gold

Quote from: WSJ
Sales of gold have long been an important source of funds for the North Korean regime, which has been largely cut off from the global financial system by sanctions imposed to curb its nuclear-weapons program.

Quote from: zerohedge
The problem for North Korea is that its traditional gold-smuggling routes may be about to close up, leaving the nation unable to "liquify" its gold holdings

According to the BBC reports, Young-nam's baggage was searched and almost 27 kilos, or 59 pounds, of gold bars and ornaments were recovered.

Initially the diplomat refused to allow customs officers and police to examine his luggage. "He insisted that his bags cannot be scanned because he's carrying a red passport and he enjoys diplomatic immunity," Moinul Khan, head of Bangladesh's customs intelligence department told AFP.

Then "after more than four hours of drama, he gave in and we found gold bars and gold ornaments weighing 26.795kg (59lb), which is worth 130 million taka." Or about $1.7 million dollars.

The customs head said the diplomat was told that more than 2kg of gold could not be brought into the country. Which means that now that the gold, nearly $2 million of it, now belongs to the great Bagladeshi void, after it was confiscated


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March 08, 2015, 06:25:57 AM
CoinCube, Japan might be another good choice as an alternative to Singapore, with a different mix of cultural tradeoffs. Might be a better real estate investment opportunity if it crashes hard in 2016.

He even for example taught me that China and Asia will rise to be the new financial capitals of the world; and from that concept I was able to gain much more insight on the importance of government as % of GDP and make better planning about where I should emigrate and reside.

Actually that was an ongoing issue in my mind after participating in discussions over a mpettis.com with Michael Pettis the China expert. I even had debates with Suvy wherein I articulated what Armstrong is saying about Japan below.

I actually derived the government as a % of GDP difference between Asia and West myself independently before I read it from Armstrong. He may have gotten that from me, since I was emailing him. But in any case, his chart on China rising to be new financial capital of world aided my coming to a complete understanding.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/03/08/why-japan-is-not-greece-or-eu-for-that-matter/

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QUESTION: Hello Martin

There are a few writers who speculate the the yen will be the first currency to fall (because Japan has been tied into QE and flat interest rates for decades already, and their manufacturing is suffering).  How do you think the currency situation will play out for Japan?

ANSWER: This is the classic example of people who keep touting fiat and money supply as if it was the beginning and end to everything. I have stated that ALL money is fiat even when a government fixes the price of gold for they are dictating its value. The floating exchange rate has its advantages. It is truly the check against government for money is simply the expression of confidence in the total productivity of a nation. It is not gold – it is the people.

Japan rose to the 2nd largest economy with a tiny island, no gold, and no resources. It did so proving Adam Smith was correct based upon the total productivity of its people. Inflation does not correlate to money supply. If it did, then ALL commodities would be higher today. Inflation is a matter of confidence and as long as people know someone else will freely accept whatever money might be at that moment, then they will accept it as well. Disturb that confidence and you get inflation all the way up the scale to hyperinflation, which also involves the collapse in confidence in banks and people spending everything as fast as they get it – the opposite of deflationary hoarding.

Interest Rates are also a reflection of INFLATION. You would never lend money with a rate of return BELOW the purchasing power of money at the time you expect a return. Therefore, rates have been flat in Japan because of the massive deflation that is also the hallmark of hoarding (savings).

To understand Japan we must look at the whole picture. The key lies in capital flows. Here we can see the outflow of yen where Japan became the largest holder of US debt until the 1987 Crash. The G5 morons stood up and said they wanted to see the dollar down by 40% for trade. The Japanese panicked and sold US assets taking their money home. That set the stage for the bubble peak in 1989 two years later.

The Current Account surplus has been instrumental in Japanese economics. Japan is running a current account surplus – attracting capital inflows into Japan and such inflows can be used by the private sector or buy government bonds and equity. Japan does not rely on external financing of its public sector debt. A high percentage of Japanese public sector debt is held domestically. In fact, some 70% is held by the Bank of Japan itself. Most of the remaining balance is held by Japanese trust and investment funds.

Consequently, despite a temporary inflow after the Euro debt crisis, foreign sector holdings of of medium- to long-term Japanese government securities remained distinctly below 7%. This in part was driven also by capital controls. One could not even issue a note in Japanese yen without approval first from the Ministry of Finance.

Now, let us look at this perspective in contrast with Europe. The  European periphery countries like Spain, Greece and Italy were also running current account deficits and had a greater reliance on external financing of domestic debt than Japan. This was the initial belief that Euroland replaced credit risk. Here is a list of the top 10 nations who has public and private debt held by non-residents.



The typical snake-oil salesman’s analysis focuses on the debt size and assumes it is fiat and therefore the dollar has to collapse. Now look closer. Why is the debt crisis starting in Europe rather than Japan?  Japan’s externally held debt places it in the rank of number six, whereas its total debt to GDP puts it in first place among all nations. Now look even closer. Here is the external debt as a percentage of GDP where we can see that Japan is the LOWEST of the top ten countries coming in at just 60%. Therefore its debt is primarily domestic not external.

Now turn to the per capita column. Low and behold,  Britain is the worst and Germany, France, Netherlands, Luxembourg all exceed the USA and Italy as well as Spain are not far behind the USA. The problem, no European country has a viable economy to service this level of debt. The average German pays more than 50% of total income to taxes at least 33% more than the average American. Europe is a basket-case for socialism.

There are far too many charlatans distorting facts usually to sell something be it gold or some newsletter filled with nonsense and poor research if you can even call it that. Sorry, but the Japanese private sector (both household and corporate) have a large appetite for buying government bonds (hoarding) for they have traditionally believed in government. For you see, once upon a time the Emperor was seen as appointed by God and thus was the “Son of Heaven”. You cannot argue with God. China had the same philosophy known as tiānmìng (Madate of Heaven). If an emperor was overthrown, this was seen as God’s will. Therefore, instinctively, there is a different sort of confidence in government that dominates Japan compared to the West.

Consequently, this concept of the “Son of Heaven” created a culture where people have listened to government, which is starting to decline with the younger generation. Nonetheless, this belief has created domestic savings rates that are relatively high by global standards (hoarding) which in itself is deflationary. People and firms have spare cash to buy bonds and lend the government money.

Cost of debt servicing Japanese debt has been minimal in recent years and this is the risk Japan faces in the future. Interest rates and bond yields in Japan are very low. (10 year bond yield is 0.5%) Therefore, the interest payments on the debt are relatively low. If interest rates in Japan were to rise, the cost of servicing the national debt would then explode rising much higher than anyone will suspect. With rates so low, debt interest payments account form a substantial amount of total government spending reaching about 15% of GDP.

With Japan in a deflationary spiral, inflation and interest rates have both been very low. The Bank of Japan is able to monetize part of the debt without causing inflation because of the depressed state of the economy. The 70% of government debt is held by the Bank of Japan, does not impact the economy at this stage when in the West pension funds are in danger from holding way too much government debt.

So our analysis looking at every asset class and debt class leaving no stone unturned, places Japan second in line to Europe. The crisis that will tip Japan over will be when rates rise externally. That will transfer risk to the Bank of Japan.


So exactly as I said, Japan will default on its own people and standard-of-living will crash, but this will be a bottom for Japan and then it will rise with Asia because it can leverage its technical superiority along with the massive youth productivity and low government spending in Asia.

Unlike Europe, which will slide into an abyss that has no escape. The only future for Europe is for the youth to migrate to Asia or wait for the boomers to die off (maybe the pandemic will help with that).

Whereas, the USA is a wounded Godzilla, still strong enough to do severe damage to the world for another 8.6 years from 2015.75. After that, it will be severely depleted, bankrupted as a 50 state republic run top-down (the DEEP STATE albatross around its neck) so it will need to fracture and breakup into competing regions in order to realize its productivity again. But all this strife is going to drag the USA into the toilet bowl from 2024 to 2032.
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CoinCube, I would start with his blog archive. His prison writings were incoherent to me at the time. Maybe they would make more sense now. He was at a severe disadvantage of not having access to his resources (including no internet, no computer, no database) and using only a typewriter and a pencil to make drawings and charts.

I realize you are trying to go back further in time to try to gain more specificity with distance from the present, in order to judge his predictive accuracy over time distance. I explain below why that is the wrong paradigm of what is predicted.

Any way, I think you should learn to delegate to experts, so you don't become inefficient. The maximum division-of-labor applies. You could decide to trust my analysis of Armstrong.

I still can't fathom how you could have read his post about banksters leasing space at the WA D.C. Capital building as anything other than sarcasm. He is quite sarcastic in other blog posts, which you will gain a respect for if you read his entire blog archive as I have. Your opinion signifies great disrespect for Armstrong. There is no way you could view someone you respect as making such a claim. There is no way to make such a claim in error. One either believes it could be true, or realizes it is implausible and a joke. So sorry, but for as long as you hold this view, I will see you as a person who does not respect Armstrong. Since I respect immensely what Armstrong has accomplished, the $100 millions he selflessly donated to this cause, and the extreme importance at this juncture of what he has accomplished over 3 decades of effort, I am greatly indebted to the man more so than I am to Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, and Thomas Paine. And surely you don't disrespect the forefathers of our Constitution and principles of liberty. He even for example taught me that China and Asia will rise to be the new financial capitals of the world; and from that concept I was able to gain much more insight on the importance of government as % of GDP and make better planning about where I should emigrate and reside. Thus I am upset (disappointed) with you that you display disproportionate (unfair) levels of gratitude and respect. I had up to this point, seen you as a marvellously fair, generous, and good will driven person. I could understand your apprehensions based on some clear reasons for doubt. But you haven't been able to dig up anything significant. And your opinion this particular joke, stinks really bad, because there is no reason to doubt he was expressing sarcasm. Do you have any reason whatsoever to think so? Does he ever exhibit such sort of careless disrespect for plausible reality? NO! HELL NO! FUCK NO!

The error he made on alleging the shrapnel holes were machine gun fire was one of a few examples where I have seen him jump too quickly to sensationalize a news story to support his thesis of how bad government is. His noble goal (although I disagree with the efficacy of his ideas) is to motivate readers to support a solution which would involve direct democracy and other ideas he has for solutions. But it was an acceptable error, because I even on first sight thought the holes could plausibly be from bullet holes. But further analysis revealed that it was not plausible. So that is quite different than presenting something clearly implausible as plausible, which is the case on your (erroneous) opinion of his Capital building blog post.

I would be the first to bolt from my loyalty and gratitude if I had any inkling of fraud.

But still you are apparently missing the most salient point— there doesn't need to be any articulation from Armstrong of a prediction in the past. His cyclical model turn dates are implicitly predictions.

As for short-term predictions such as where he wrote on his blog in August 2012 that the Dow (DJIA) could double to 24,000 and possibly a phase transition to 35,000 before 2015.75, he was careful to point out (not all in the same post but over the month or so of posts) that this was contingent on whether the Dow did not invert to align with the Private assets side of the ECM. Note the Dow did rise consistently since that August 2012 contrarian prediction and did nearly double.  It the Dow remained aligned with the Public assets, then it would peak 2015.75, but if it inverted to align with private assets such as gold, then it would peak on the half-wave of Pi on 2017.325 which is now the current prediction since the inversion obviously occurred (which he had said he would know with certainty by the close of 2014).

The prediction of the interaction of specific asset classes or specific events with various cyclical models (ECM, War Cycle, 224-year Political change, 51.6-year Public/Private oscillation, etc), is much more complex and conditioned on predicates.

So we can say for example that his War Cycle model predicted an event like 9/11, but it would have been much more difficult to predict in advance that the specific event was 9/11 (the place and people involved and that it was focused on terrorism). Although I want to tell you that since the first basement bombing of 9/11, I was expecting it would be bombed again and the next time it be much more catastrophic. Had I been aware of Armstrong's models in 2000, aware of the Neocon whitepapers on Iraq, and aware that the terrorists were drawing planes hitting the WTC in their prison cells at the MCC as Armstrong was (he was imprisoned there with them), I would have likely pinpointed the WTC as a likely candidate for the War Cycle turn date.

So this is why your judgement of his weather prediction is entirely off base. You are judging it based on unrealistic expectations (you are too obsessed with trying to nail down too specifically the specific minute details of the prediction; whereas the predictions necessarily can't always be exact on certain specifics but close enough and can ALWAYS be exact on timing). The weather did indeed become more abnormal right on time with the cyclical model. Your focus on Armstrong's articulation of what sort of abnormality he expected is entirely irrelevant. The cyclical weather model did not fail.

For example, the pandemic cycle peaks in 2019. This means we will get some kind of pandemic event. What is not clear yet is whether it will be one that kills a significant portion of the global population or if it is more limited in mortality and scope.  Armstrong said he might try to produce a more detailed model on this soon. I hope so.

Armstrong is employing a real-time computer system with 32,000 variables to get more accurate at determining the specifics of events before they occur. Without that additional complexity, all we know is that significant events happen on turn dates, and their significance must be relevant to the model's taxonomy, e.g. Snowden's expose on April 2013 was relevant to the 224-year peak in the Political Change Cycle Model (for the USA).

Armstrong was able to pinpoint Ukraine as the focal point of the 2014 War Cycle turn date well in advance of it beginning.

P.S. You can add numerous predictions he articulated and got correct, for example the 2014 (Dec 31) closing price for oil below $57 which he made back when oil was over $100. There are so many examples. I have not enumerated them all. Sorry I will leave that as homework for those who are interested to save themselves from what is coming.
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March 08, 2015, 04:34:10 AM
I trust Armstrong has read our latest discussion here (because I've been emailing him to) and has responded to CoinCube's doubts about financial motivation:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/03/08/sorry-donations-not-accepted-just-spread-the-word/


I saw only gold and white (with a slight bluish tint on the white in the rightmost photo), but then it suddenly changed to black and blue. Perhaps I have a very flexible mind.

I was able to get myself to see it as gold and white again for brief second then I watched it melt to black and blue like a 1 second animation transition effect. Bizzare!
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March 08, 2015, 03:15:01 AM
CoinCube, for you to claim that he was not intentionally joking (being sarcastic) just boggles my mind.

You should try not to take things so personally. Different rational actors can interpret the same data very differently.

What color is the dress?



Answer: Black and Blue

However, a majority including myself can only see white and gold.
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March 08, 2015, 01:53:03 AM
CoinCube, to summarize my prior two rebuttals in one sentence:

My confidence comes from the math of statistical confidence of repeatability of cyclical patterns; and the well documented astounding performance of Armstrong's cyclical turn dates from the 1980s to present has convinced me that his computer has verified the necessary statistical confidence for each cyclical pattern it has identified.

Human error is thus entirely irrelevant.

I understand that you doubt the documentation of his record of performance. You've even tried to hint that he might have back edited documents. Based on my intimate, multi-year, deep, daily study of Armstrong, I have come to the conclusion that your doubt is ludicrous and absurd. It is litany of factors which my mind has weighted statistically and determined the odds of Armstrong being a fraud is unlikely. My confidence interval is roughly 95% at this point, as I mentioned upthread yesterday.

P.S. the stress of Armstrong's reality is so bitter for you to swallow, you will naturally attempt denial for as long as you can. This is human nature.

iamback this is by far your best reply to my critiques of Armstrong. I want to clarify that I did not state that he back edits his predictions. I only stated that I have seen him edit one post (to correct an error in my opinion and for clarity in your opinion). I stated that I did not know if this was a widespread practice. You have reported that he does not back edit his predictions. The edit I saw was not an edit of a prediction. Since you follow him closely I have no reason to doubt you on this.  

To try to defend Armstrong and his models as perfect, however, is in my opinion a losing proposition. No humans and no models are 100%. Even if Armstrong is exactly what he says he is and his supercomputer does exactly what he claims each additional predictions he makes (especially short term market predictions) increase the chances he will get one wrong. I believe he got one wrong with his weather prediction as I documented. You think I am misinterpreting his prediction. Regardless, given enough predictions it is a certainty that Armstrong will get one wrong. No matter how sophisticated and accurate his cyclical modeling it cannot be perfect.

Judging a prognosticator like Armstrong is not a binary decision always wrong or always right. Rather it is an assessment of reliability. With that in mind if you have time it would be helpful if your sourced with links your list of Armstrong predictions above. You mentioned several that I did not have on my list that I do not have the source for.

I very much have an open mind regarding Armstrong. As I stated upthread I believe his prediction of a sovereign debt crisis that starts 2015.75 seems likely to happen. I honestly have no idea if he is legitimate or an opportunistic but talented fake. That is why I am interested in documenting both his potential inconsistencies (as I have done) and his future predictions. Further data will help. This back in fourth has also inspired me to dig a little deeper and as I have time I will start go go through Armstrong's earlier writings starting with his prison writings. Perhaps once I do that I will share your confidence in him.    
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I don't have any more free time. I hope my posts have helped those who want to be helped.

The preponderance of correlations with Armstrong's turn dates is undeniable proof of their efficacy. To say that the turn dates could match any event cherry picked after the turn date has occurred is illogical, because there are only a few applicable models, infrequent turn dates, and only a few significant events that are elligible.

For example, the 25-year War Cycle turn date correlated to the day with 9/11 false flag operation which was used to get us back into war in Iraq and start the terrorism lie. And the 224-year cycle of political change for the USA turn date correlated to Eric Snowden's expose on the NSA. Those are not arbitrary correlations, they are very unlikely and extremely precise, thus they are predictions (whether Armstrong articulated them in advance is irrelevant to the statistical confidence here; the salient point being the models are doing the predicting not the human Armstrong).

The War Cycle was also employed by Armstrong to publicly predict the Ukraine outcome a year before anyone was even thinking and talking about Ukraine.

CoinCube, congratulations your thread is about to cross the 60,000 reads threshold. I hope you don't fail to benefit from the insight.

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Unfortunately what the models predict is war, pestilence, and grotesque
pandemic by 2019 that will probably kill many over age 65 (bleeding
through their noses, suffocating on blood gasping for air).
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CoinCube, to summarize my prior two rebuttals in one sentence:

My confidence comes from the math of statistical confidence of repeatability of cyclical patterns; and the well documented astounding performance of Armstrong's cyclical turn dates from the 1980s to present has convinced me that his computer has verified the necessary statistical confidence for each cyclical pattern it has identified.

Human error is thus entirely irrelevant.

I understand that you doubt the documentation of his record of performance. You've even tried to hint that he might have back edited documents. Based on my intimate, multi-year, deep, daily study of Armstrong, I have come to the conclusion that your doubt is ludicrous and absurd. It is litany of factors which my mind has weighted statistically and determined the odds of Armstrong being a fraud is unlikely. My confidence interval is roughly 95% at this point, as I mentioned upthread yesterday.

P.S. the stress of Armstrong's reality is so bitter for you to swallow, you will naturally attempt denial for as long as you can. This is human nature.

P.S.S. Armstrong's cyclical models not only predicted Eric Snowden's April 2013 revelations, I've read his computer model also predicted 9/11/2001!

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/02/15/the-model-the-dogs-or-war/

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QUESTION: Mr. Armstrong; Your cycle of war seems to be truly amazing. It was a fascinating read. My question is this. I also understand that 911 took place precisely on the day of your model. Besides your cycle of war predicting World War I and II to the day, has your Pi conjunction that targeted 911 ever taken place like that before in history?

ANSWER: Shockingly, many times. Even going back into ancient times, the first of the three wars against the Jews also began on that same Pi target in Wave 707 (starting the Economic Confidence Model at 6000BC). You have to dive into history without a biased perspective and a completely open mind for whatever you were taught in school was most likely slanted, wrong, or fictional. I prefer contemporary accounts rather than modern interpretation that judges the past by current standards.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/04/top-economic-advisers-forecast-war-and-unrest-2.html

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former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill says that Bush planned the Iraq war before 9/11.
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