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legendary
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December 12, 2016, 04:14:45 PM
More hand waving pretending there is not an ethnocentric cult known as Judaism running the banks and media propaganda machine.

Modern banking especially fractional reserve banking is a universal and historic form of theft. As a society we tolerate it and will suffer for this tolerance.

It does not matter who benefits most from the breach. If every current banker including all those of Jewish ancestry suddenly vanished other groups would simply step into their places and things would carry on exactly as before.

This is a fundamental moral failing of society. Until that is widely understood attempts at "social revolution" will only make things worse.

Once moral failings are accepted and celebrated they tend to destroy the existing social order. It was the institution of slavery that more than any other factor that destroyed the Roman Republic. Modern banking will likewise lead to the functional demise of most of the modern nation states as they become parts of larger multinational structures.

The beginnings of the fall of the Rome can be traced back all the way to 133 BC

From:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gracchus

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Tiberius was elected to the office of tribune of the plebeians in 133 BC. He immediately began pushing for a programme of land reform, partly by invoking the 240-year-old Sextian-Licinian law that limited the amount of land that could be owned by a single individual.

Central to the Gracchi reforms was an attempt to address economic distress and its military consequences. Much public land had been divided among large landholders and speculators who further expanded their estates by driving peasants off their farms. While their old lands were being worked by slaves, the peasants were often forced into idleness in Rome where they had to subsist on handouts due to a scarcity of paid work.

The senators obstructed his re-election. They also gathered an ad hoc force, with several of them personally marching to the Forum, and had Tiberius and some 300 of his supporters clubbed to death. This was the first open bloodshed in Roman politics for nearly four centuries.

Note the crisis was caused by the widespread expansion of slavery undermining the ability of the middle class to productively work small farms or find gainful employment essentially forcing them into the ancient equivalent of welfare.

Attempts to rectify the situation politically led to the first instance of violence over compromise in Roman politics. From here follows the later death of the republic, the inevitable rise of men like Caracalla

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/research/monetary-history-of-the-world/roman-empire/chronology_-by_-emperor/third-civil-war-severan-dynasty/caracalla-198-217ad/

and later to the masses welcoming the barbarian invaders as liberators.
sr. member
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December 12, 2016, 07:00:48 AM
in this present day the aim of every economic is to be the best in world so in all these very one are doing their best to make sure that their citizen are all well to do so all they can do now is try to avoid wastage of economic funds bring up new inventions that will be of profit to the economic  and make their people happy after.   
legendary
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December 12, 2016, 05:26:30 AM
More hand waving pretending there is not an ethnocentric cult known as Judaism running the banks and media propaganda machine.
legendary
Activity: 1946
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December 11, 2016, 10:35:32 PM
Well, I'm sorry to say but I'm not practicing your nonsense Ghandi ideology of let people trample over you.  The way life works is that people form collective groups and throw their weight around, which forces others into collective groups to defend against them.  You can either practice cuckoldism and be enslaved in usury or overthrow the slave masters.  Contrary to your claim that overthrowing the slave masters is "evil", they are the ones practicing the evil ideology and they do it in a collective manner where tossing one or two or even 100 in jail does absolutely nothing.

Overthrowing the an older order through force or violence and taking its place as top oppressor is indeed how life worked up until 1446 BC. Fortunately since then we have been gifted with a superior model. I never said you should let people trample over you only that you have misidentified the actual problem.

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fractional reserve, usury scams.

Not sure how this got tied to race, its pretty common now and for a long time.   The dynamic thats with us recent in this generation and before is the centralised part of banking, this allows for the leverage of fractional reserve to be tied to debasement of the monetary base.    Thats a general negative for the population as they underwrite risks taken by the 'banking elite',  its not race based.   All of us are in this mess pretty much

Agreed.
legendary
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December 11, 2016, 10:02:15 PM
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LEFT AND RIGHT: MORAL DEFECTS
Conservatives focus on transforming themselves, not the nation

http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/differences-between-left-and-right-moral-defects/#M64xfXIgEppekIWh.99

By Dennis Prager

The difference between right and left addressed in this column concerns a fundamentally different method that each utilizes in order to improve society.

Conservatives believe that the way to a better world is almost always through moral improvement of the individual – by each person doing battle with his own moral defects. It is true that in particularly violent and evil societies such as fascist, communist and Islamist tyrannies the individual must be preoccupied with battling outside forces. Almost everywhere else, however, and certainly in a free and decent country such as America, the greatest battle of the individual must be with inner forces – that is, with his or her flawed character and moral defects.

The left, on the other hand, believes that the way to a better world is almost always through doing battle with society’s moral defects (real and/or as perceived by the left). Thus, in America, the left defines the good person as the one who fights the sexism, racism, intolerance, xenophobia, homophobia, Islamophobia and other evils the left believes permeate American society.

That is one reason those on the left are more preoccupied with politics than those on the right. A simple example should make this point clear. Whenever the term “activist” or “social activist” or “organizer” is used, one infers that the term refers to someone on the left.

One consequence of this difference is that conservatives believe that good is achieved far more gradually than liberals do. The process of making a better world is largely a one-by-one-by-one effort. And it must be redone in every single generation. The noblest generation ever born still has to teach its children how to battle their natures. If it doesn’t, even the best society will begin to rapidly devolve, which is exactly what conservatives believe has been happening to America since the end of World War II.

The left does not focus on individual character development. Rather, it has always and everywhere focused on social revolution. The most revealing statement of then-presidential candidate Barack Obama, the most committed leftist ever elected president of the United States, was made just days before the 2008 election: “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America,” he told a large rapturous audience.

Conservatives not only have no interest in fundamentally transforming the United States, but they are passionately opposed to doing so. Fundamentally transforming any but the worst society – not to mention transforming what is probably the most decent society in history – can only make the society worse. Of course, conservatives believe that America can be improved, but not transformed, let alone fundamentally transformed.

The founders all understood that the transformation that every generation must work on is the moral transformation of each citizen. Thus, character development was at the core of both childrearing and of young people’s education at school.

As John Adams said: “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

And in the words of Benjamin Franklin: “Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom.”

Why is that? Because freedom requires self-control. Otherwise, external controls – which means an ever more powerful government – would have to be imposed.

The more that leftist ideas influence society the less character education there is. Instead, children are taught to focus on social issues. For example, the Wall Street Journal just reported that Common Core, the federal standards program for elementary and high schools, has unveiled a new K-12 science curriculum, the “Next Generation of Science Standards,” which will indoctrinate young Americans concerning global warming from kindergarten on.

And when they get to college, American young people will be taught about the need to fight such things as “white privilege” and the “rape culture” on their campuses.

At the same time, as a professor of philosophy wrote in the New York Times, fewer and fewer young Americans believe there are any moral truths.

Meanwhile, at home, fathers and religion, historically the two primary conveyors of moral truths and moral self-discipline, are often nonexistent.

As a result of all this, we are producing – indeed, we have produced since World War II – vast numbers of Americans who are passionate about carbon emissions and fighting sexism and “white privilege” who are also cheating on tests at unprecedentedly high levels.

But the age-old wisdom embraced by conservatives remains as true as ever: Before you fix society, you must first fix yourself.
STT
legendary
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December 11, 2016, 09:25:44 PM
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fractional reserve, usury scams.

Not sure how this got tied to race, its pretty common now and for a long time.   The dynamic thats with us recent in this generation and before is the centralised part of banking, this allows for the leverage of fractional reserve to be tied to debasement of the monetary base.    Thats a general negative for the population as they underwrite risks taken by the 'banking elite',  its not race based.   All of us are in this mess pretty much
legendary
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December 11, 2016, 09:11:26 PM
Again, this is all hand waving, obfuscation nonsense.  I know for a fact that the Jews are not going to stop practicing extreme ethnic nepotism for the benefit of themselves and to the detriment of everyone else they come in contact with anytime soon.  Only a fool doesn't see them as being the main force behind our scam economic system and media propaganda.  I would be happy to live and let live, but the Jews obviously don't see it that way, so it's either a choice of them or me and I'm going to pick me instead.  Simple survival at this point.

As mentioned, they operate with extreme collectivism, and there is no way to combat a collective enemy without a collective solution.  You gave the common white man no other choice.  It's not our fault, it's your fault.  This has happened numerous times before in literally hundreds of countries and you still haven't learned your lesson. You can see why I have zero sympathy.

Just to clarify I have no Jewish ancestry. My genetic heritage is overwhelmingly Scandinavian (light hair and blue eyes) and I have a German last name.

Targeting your anger at Jews will only blind you to the larger issues. Do some Jews embrace evil? You bet they do. However, if you could snap you fingers and make every Jew vanish you would be left with a world with far more evil not less. Evil sooner or later destroys those who embrace it whether those individuals be Aryans, Asians, Blacks, Jews, Christians, or Communists.

Here is a short 5 minute video I recommend watching.

https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/i-am-lord-your-god

Well, I'm sorry to say but I'm not practicing your nonsense Ghandi ideology of let people trample over you.  The way life works is that people form collective groups and throw their weight around, which forces others into collective groups to defend against them.  You can either practice cuckoldism and be enslaved in usury or overthrow the slave masters.  Contrary to your claim that overthrowing the slave masters is "evil", they are the ones practicing the evil ideology and they do it in a collective manner where tossing one or two or even 100 in jail does absolutely nothing.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1055
December 11, 2016, 03:05:35 PM
Again, this is all hand waving, obfuscation nonsense.  I know for a fact that the Jews are not going to stop practicing extreme ethnic nepotism for the benefit of themselves and to the detriment of everyone else they come in contact with anytime soon.  Only a fool doesn't see them as being the main force behind our scam economic system and media propaganda.  I would be happy to live and let live, but the Jews obviously don't see it that way, so it's either a choice of them or me and I'm going to pick me instead.  Simple survival at this point.

As mentioned, they operate with extreme collectivism, and there is no way to combat a collective enemy without a collective solution.  You gave the common white man no other choice.  It's not our fault, it's your fault.  This has happened numerous times before in literally hundreds of countries and you still haven't learned your lesson. You can see why I have zero sympathy.

Just to clarify I have no Jewish ancestry. My genetic heritage is overwhelmingly Scandinavian (light hair and blue eyes) and I have a German last name.

Targeting your anger at Jews will only blind you to the larger issues. Do some Jews embrace evil? You bet they do. However, if you could snap you fingers and make every Jew vanish you would be left with a world with far more evil not less. Evil sooner or later destroys those who embrace it whether those individuals be Aryans, Asians, Blacks, Jews, Christians, or Communists.

Here is a short 5 minute video I recommend watching.

https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/i-am-lord-your-god
legendary
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December 11, 2016, 01:45:50 PM
Just want to point out that the only people who cry about Jews are envious losers. Jews practice economic nepotism because it works out really well for them! The only reason losers like Roach complain is that they can't benefit. You're the Marxist scum, Roach, you sad little man, trying to take others down for what they've accomplished.  

Nice, I have an actual JIDF shill account following me around now.  The problem isn't solely Jews practicing collectivism, it's that they attempt to not only prevent whites from acting in their own collective interests, they even try to pass laws preventing them from doing so.  The alt-right is now taking over and nobody really gives a shit what lunatic leftists or Marxist Jews say anymore.

Here's your typical example of Jewish Marxist propaganda commonly seen in America.  The effectiveness of this propaganda is zero now that the alt-right has won:

sr. member
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December 11, 2016, 01:39:11 PM
Just want to point out that the only people who cry about Jews are envious losers. Jews practice economic nepotism because it works out really well for them! The only reason losers like Roach complain is that they can't benefit. You're the Marxist scum, Roach, you sad little man, trying to take others down for what they've accomplished.

In my eyes you are no better than the "welfare blacks" you love to rant about. A real man would succeed despite adversity, instead of crying about how the evil Jews have conspired against them. Is that what you tell yourself Roach, when you look at your life and see failure? That the Jews are responsible? Sure looks like it. Sad.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
December 11, 2016, 01:34:11 PM
Again, this is all hand waving, obfuscation nonsense.  I know for a fact that the Jews are not going to stop practicing extreme ethnic nepotism for the benefit of themselves and to the detriment of everyone else they come in contact with anytime soon.  Only a fool doesn't see them as being the main force behind our scam economic system and media propaganda.  I would be happy to live and let live, but the Jews obviously don't see it that way, so it's either a choice of them or me and I'm going to pick me instead.  Simple survival at this point.

As mentioned, they operate with extreme collectivism, and there is no way to combat a collective enemy without a collective solution.  You gave the common white man no other choice.  It's not our fault, it's your fault.  This has happened numerous times before in literally hundreds of countries and you still haven't learned your lesson.  You can see why I have zero sympathy.
legendary
Activity: 1946
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December 11, 2016, 01:23:43 PM
So I looked at the links in your signature r0ach and found them a little odd.

It doesn't matter what type of hand waving you invent to attempt to rationalize or excuse Jewish behavior, the bottom line is that they practice extreme ethnic nepotism - group evolutionary strategy in other words - to the detriment of everyone else besides their group.

It's explained in great detail here:

Jewish group evolutionary strategy

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jewish_group_evolutionary_strategy
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Trump got the Orthodox Jewish vote. But the Orthodox make up only about 10% of those who identify as Jewish.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/10/01/us/poll-shows-major-shift-in-identity-of-us-jews.html
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Reform Judaism remains the largest American Jewish movement, at 35 percent. Conservative Jews are 18 percent, Orthodox 10 percent, and groups such as Reconstructionist and Jewish Renewal make up 6 percent combined. Thirty percent of Jews do not identify with any denomination.

Ms. Eisner (sociologist of American Jewry at Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion) found the results “devastating” because, she said in an interview, “I thought there would be more American Jews who cared about religion.”
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Take away Judaism from the Jews and you just have a insular group of people who like all subgroups have strength and weaknesses and who can be critiqued along the lines you have above.

Add Judaism to the Jews and you have the spark that sets in motion the total transformation of humanity.

http://busylivingblog.blogspot.com/2007/02/only-two-races.html?m=1
Quote from: Viktor Frankl
There are (only) two races of men in this world... The race of the decent man and the race of the indecent man. Both are found everywhere, they penetrate into all groups of society. No group consists entirely of decent or indecent people. In this sense no group is of pure race.
legendary
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December 11, 2016, 11:32:43 AM
So I looked at the links in your signature r0ach and found them a little odd.

It doesn't matter what type of hand waving you invent to attempt to rationalize or excuse Jewish behavior, the bottom line is that they practice extreme ethnic nepotism - group evolutionary strategy in other words - to the detriment of everyone else besides their group.

It's explained in great detail here:

Jewish group evolutionary strategy

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jewish_group_evolutionary_strategy

It's no coincidence they've been kicked out of different countries something like 200 times.  No, it is not people being irrationally "racist".  It's because they form a state within a state and undermine the majority population who lives there.

109 Locations whence Jews have been Expelled since AD250

https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm

They've done the same thing in America forming monopolies in media and banking to the detriment of everyone else just like always and the time is drawing very near before they're expelled from here.  "Monopoly" isn't really the right word for it, more like malevolent, fractional reserve, usury scams.

They also hilariously have a wall in Israel and laws forbidding Jews from marrying anyone but other Jews (they practice Nazi ideology in Israel in other words) while telling the "goyim" in America they need open borders and to pass every law possible to accelerate white genocide here and in Europe.  They see all homogeneous societies as detrimental to their "interests" (usury scamming) because every homogeneous nation always throws them out rather than having an enemy faction working inside their borders to destroy them from within.

Giving them their own homeland does absolutely nothing because they far prefer attempting to insert themselves in as usury middlemen to live off others (rent seeking behavior) in other countries and only flee back to Israel as an option of last resort.

I also don't know who you're trying to fool, but Jews voted for Clinton 61% and trump 19%:

http://www.ajc.org/site/apps/nlnet/content3.aspx?c=7oJILSPwFfJSG&b=9302337&ct=14924017¬oc=1

They are easily predictable and always choose the most detrimental option possible for the common white man.
legendary
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December 11, 2016, 06:28:52 AM
Below are some interesting links relating to WWII

A map of the war that shows the shifting frontline each day of the war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOVEy1tC7nk

A documentary of the war from the Russian perspective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhXKlYnSWjA

Hitler's public justification for invading Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v65NZpRZB3A

The German Hunger Plan and what it meant for Soviet POW.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_mistreatment_of_Soviet_prisoners_of_war

Concentration Camps Video Footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtRDt6uAB0U

The Allied Firebombing of German Cities
http://www.hellstormdocumentary.com/


The sad take home message from all of this is that bad ideas and reason can lead to horrific Evil. If we want a world of Good we need something more than reason.
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/evil-rational
legendary
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December 11, 2016, 04:34:01 AM

So I looked at the links in your signature r0ach and found them a little odd.

First the Orthodox Jews (those Jews who most closely adhere to their their historic religious traditions) voted for Trump over Hillary.

Also Trumps daughter is an Orthodox Jew so I am fairly confident he is a supporter of the Jewish people.


It is a mistake to view the Jews as a monolithic group. At a minimum they must be divided in the orthodox (observant) and the non orthodox for these groups are very different. The orthodox Jews for example voted for Trump in the election.
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Religious attendance strongly correlated with supporting Donald Trump.
http://forward.com/news/353914/by-the-numbers-3-key-takeaways-from-the-2016-jewish-vote/
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http://www.jta.org/2016/09/13/news-opinion/politics/poll-shows-hillary-clinton-trouncing-donald-trump-among-jewish-voters
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Reform Jews are likeliest to favor Clinton over Trump, 74 percent to 10 percent; Reconstructionists prefer Clinton 71 percent to 0 percent for Trump and 15 percent for Stein; “just Jewish” chooses Clinton over Trump, 60 to 17 percent; and Conservative Jews favor Clinton over Trump, 57-29 percent.

Among Orthodox respondents, as in recent elections, preferences are flipped, with respondents likelier to favor Trump — to a degree. Trump does not do as well with this subset as Clinton does overall. Orthodox respondents favor Trump at 50 percent, Clinton at 21 percent, Johnson at 6 percent and Stein at 1 percent, with 15 percent saying they will not vote.
legendary
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December 11, 2016, 03:35:37 AM
I am very clearly now seeing Armstrong's computer's prediction for the breakup of the USA into regions.

Tons of people predicted that before him.  Governance and democracy doesn't scale so there's no such thing as freedom if you're forced to adhere to the monolithic monopoly on the landmass.  This is why state's rights exists, so people don't have to leave the union to do things differently.  But when the federal govt tries to force their will over states, secession is the only choice.
legendary
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December 10, 2016, 10:50:27 PM
I came across Prager University this week.

Its a webpage that tries to cover complex topics in economics, politics, and other fields in brief but well done five minute clips.

Below is one such clip. Probably the best explanation of the fundamental difference between the left and the right that I have come across.

https://www.prageru.com/courses/left-and-right-differences
sr. member
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December 04, 2016, 09:24:42 PM
I am looking for an altcoin that can turn the youth away from Socialism and towards being productive:

Bernie Sander's Millennials Socialism is Coming...

Surely they will feel better about themselves being productive and earning their own TAXABLE money, than stealing from others.

Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials
sr. member
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December 04, 2016, 08:42:33 PM
Ah yes I was thinking it was 500 ounces.
500 grams is much less, but I still doubt the average person owns $20,000 worth of gold.
This will still only have an effect on the very wealthy. Some might buy some Bitcoin, but I assume most are going to hide money in offshore accounts and companies outside their country.

The intended effect is that it will be impractical to use gold as form of tax avoiding cash. You can bury gold in the ground and never use it, because that it no threat at all to the government's desire to tax everything that moves. Have fun eating your gold or watching it sit there useless in the ground while the economic opportunities move on without you.

The elite are moving the tangible economy to electronic currency that is tracked for taxes.

They will use the poor as a weapon against the middle class. The poor will avidly support increased taxation because the government will promise them free things. In India, the government is recently offering a basic level of free food and medical care system support to the indigent. This is a big deal because in the past 1/3 of Indians only ate once a day.

The poor see these increased taxation as ending corruption and funding the support for the poor. They don't realize it is the laying the seeds for tax slavery.

But we in the crypto-currency currency arena can offer the poor a better deal than what the government can give them. We can offer them a job in the virtual economy where they can become independently a middle class person. And then they will hate taxes.

I am working on this now. Steem(it) was the first (failed) example. We can onboard the billions into crypto-currency by giving them currency when they do work on a social network. We can change the economy of the world.

Tinfoil hats are doing nothing. They are stuck in an unimaginative old world fight over tangible resources. Iron used to be a precious metal. Everyone needs to understand we live in an age of surplus and we are moving to a Knowledge Age:

You will probably need a week or two of studying the thread slowly.

I will be the first to admit I needed a week to fully absorb the following works of AnonyMint.

The Rise of Knowledge <--- READ THIS
Understand Everything Fundamentally

Together these are quite simply the most insightful piece of economic theory I have ever read.

If the author is right and I think he is we are all in the midst of a tragedy of epic proportions.  It is sad unstoppable and will devastate the lives of much of humanity.

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legendary
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November 30, 2016, 01:21:14 AM


I saw this map of the Dark Enlightenment years ago and quickly forgot all about it. Essentially it is a map of various blogs. Each circle is  is a blog.

Since then entirely independently I came across and read the listed Bruce Charlton's blog which I found quite interesting and well worth reading. Just today I also realized that Vox Day also has a listed blog which I have not read but I remembered that Vox Day wrote a glowing review of my favorite book Awake In The Night Land. I have also read some of Menicus Moldbug's Unqualified Reservations and found it very well written and interesting even though I disagree with his conclusions regarding monarchy for reasons I have explored elsewhere.

So far the track record of these Dark Enlightenment blogs has been pretty good. However, there remain too many listed blogs to realistically explore in the very limited time I have to assign to such things.
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