Topic: Economic Implications of War on Individuals - page 5. (Read 2188 times)

Money is the reason why most of the bad things are happening around the globe, you name it.

People are too corrupt, greedy, and always think about money, fame, and power of course to dominate anything that goes against them. Instead of helping each other, we're too busy competing with each other, taking each other's weaknesses as an advantage, fooling each other, just to gain cruel power. War is nonsense, you exchange bombs to each other, destroy the mother earth where we live, leaving those powerful countries with money but a very polluted devastated surroundings.

OP when there is war, the mental state of everyone is unstable and at this point what people will be doing is to look for a way to either leave the country or look for a place that's is safe for them, it is very for anyone to think about business at this time, the only beneficiary in war time are the people that sell war equipments to the nations at war, during war individuals brain doesn't coordinate well because everyone will be running different ways to seek refuge, no one should pray for such situation because it is not something to experience, the sustenance of people at this time just happens without plan, is either the government feed the masses or it just happens. 

Now Putin is actually destroying Russia. Instead of solving his economic problems within the state, he is trying to seize and subjugate the neighboring state of Ukraine, sending there colossal material and human resources, which are constantly absorbed by the war he has started. The Russian economy has been rebuilt on a war footing. Instead of making goods to improve the well-being of the people, shells, missiles and military equipment are produced. Putin cares so much about his people that he sends them to die in a neighboring country and they die there in the thousands almost every day.

The Russian people will later give an objective assessment of Putin’s aggressive policy. Now he is intoxicated by well-orchestrated propaganda about the usefulness and necessity of military action, just as it was in Germany during the time of Hitler. But insight will definitely come.

Haha pathetic attempt to spread your lies! The pictures you posted are super small I can barely see anything there. We can only guess regarding the time and place where these pics were taken. No Russian flags, there is no proof these are military graves and that they are located in Russia. Or these can be as well pics from the 80ies-90ies or something.

The last name on the first grave ends in "A" which is a female last name in Russia. And year of birth is 1961 (63yo). On the second grave I can see year of birth 1935 (89 years old!!!!) which certainly doesn't sound like a troop deceased in Ukraine recently.  

What a shameful attempt! Always check your lies so they look plausible and you don't look like a bozo to your readers again! However, why not?  
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You could even write “you downloaded it from the American Internet, everything is fake” ))

And now a little truth - all sorts of “meat battalions” from prisons and from the outskirts of Russia recruit anyone - criminals, women, and pensioners - they don’t need ABILITY TO FIGHT, they need A LOT OF MEAT.

I won’t waste time on you, Google pictures on the topic “mass graves in Russia after 2022”, there will be large pictures and the real scale of these fields, and throughout the entire territory of the terrorist’s country. Good luck diving into the truth

PS I’ll assume that the same part is simply lying around in forests, fields, territocons on Ukrainian soil, which you can also easily find, even in video screams of representatives of the Russian army

Haha pathetic attempt to spread your lies! The pictures you posted are super small I can barely see anything there. We can only guess regarding the time and place where these pics were taken. No Russian flags, there is no proof these are military graves and that they are located in Russia. Or these can be as well pics from the 80ies-90ies or something.

The last name on the first grave ends in "A" which is a female last name in Russia. And year of birth is 1961 (63yo). On the second grave I can see year of birth 1935 (89 years old!!!!) which certainly doesn't sound like a troop deceased in Ukraine recently. 

What a shameful attempt! Always check your lies so they look plausible and you don't look like a bozo to your readers again! However, why not? 

1. The problem is that you are very confused, being a classic consumer of propaganda And you think that what you are NICE to hear is true, but you deny everything that does not satisfy your minimal mental needs This is not my problem, let your psychiatrist think about how to solve it
2. “Firstly, Russia in 2022 did not capture any territories either near Kiev or anywhere in the north (Sumy, Kharkov, etc.)” - hmm... Are you feeling good now? It’s just that when your brain is removed, you shouldn’t feel very good But I can’t imagine any other options, or rather reasons for such nonsense

The suburbs of Kyiv were captured, and they even entered Kyiv - the battles took place on “Victory Avenue” as well. But after this breakthrough, the “non-existent and backward Armed Forces of Ukraine” defeated the elite strike units of the terrorist country and destroyed all units in Kiev and the Kiev region, right up to the northern outskirts (to the borders with Belarus and Russia), and after preparation, destroyed the hordes of terrorists who occupied a significant part Kharkov region. Then there was a southern direction, where the “second army of the world” ran at wild speed, leaving behind a brown-bloody liquid trail )))

3. Regarding the rules of warfare. Ukraine is doing everything to take the bodies of its dead soldiers, from sorties to exchanging for living terrorists of the Russian army. There may be some options. But Russia is not at all worried about its citizens, who can no longer be “meat”. They actually lie in the fields, the Russian army itself destroys the corpses of its soldiers in order to commit fraud with payments, etc. Besides the fact that I saw it myself, there is also a lot of information and investigations. Cowardice, lies, meanness - these are the spiritual values of the Russian world, including in relation to its citizens.

4. By publishing photos from cemeteries where Ukrainian defenders and fighters against global terrorism and racism are buried, what are you trying to convey? I know that in this terrorist war unleashed by Russia, many defenders died. This is a fact, no one denies it. It was they who gave their lives to destroy hordes of terrorists from Russia.
Better look at the cemeteries, or rather the heaps in giant fields, where the corpses of terrorist soldiers are simply quietly buried, all over Russia.

5. The only media that lies is Russian media and those who live on Russian handouts

6. “Global nuclear superpower” is a global global mega-fake We recently listened to a fairy tale about “2-3 weeks, and the second army of the world will reach the borders of Poland.” Now this army no longer exists, they are urgently recruiting meat all over Russia to try to shower us with meat I heard a screech - “we will launch a nuclear strike” - and? Putin understands perfectly well that having used even tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine, his fate will end after the first detonation of a tactical nuclear charge Russia is stupid, vile, cowardly, wretched, a terrorist country. And she will be defeated!


PS This is what terrorist burials in Russia look like:

So true! Not everyone likes the truth! You don't like truth yourself! Trolls hate truth! That's why your posts are 100% lies!

Firstly, Russia didn't capture any territories in 2022 near Kiev or anywhere in the north (Sumi, Kharkiv etc). There were just tank columns heading to capture Kiev (you can even check your own "map" these territories are only marked as occupied partly, mostly along the roads). When their initial plan failed, they withdrew and that was it. There was very little fighting going on, but Ukrainians are trying to present it as "great success" as always.

How can you recommend something you've never done yourself? Have you been there? No. Were there only Russian dead bodies? Russian dead bodies smell differently?   Here's a nic pic, perhaps it will open your eyes on reality and "zero losses":

 

Wake up, your media is lying to you!

Ukrainians are very well known for killing, mutilating, torturing Russian POVs. So they will tell you anything you want to hear. That's normal. And propaganda indeed damages your brain. You are a great example of it.  

Delusional. You can't win a global nuclear superpower. Either you lose or the whole world loses.

Which one of us is brain dead? Above you write that you need to refer only to authoritative sources of information, and that they cannot be Ukrainian and Russian sources. And here, in order to support your information about the surrender of the Armed Forces of Marinka, you refer to Ukrainian sources and the words of Ukrainian officials. What, when will it be beneficial for us to link, and when is it not beneficial for us not to link?

It's not a matter of propaganda. The fact is that not everyone likes the truth For example, I am a resident of Ukraine who has seen all this since 2014. Putin is simply a crazy, pathetic fuhrer who imagines himself to be the arbiter of destinies or even a god. But like everything in Russia and his fantasies, this is a fake. More than half of what terrorist Russia captured in Ukraine in 2022 has already been returned to the management and control of Ukraine. But these small villages, which the “second army of the world” captures over the course of 6-9-12 months, at the cost of indescribable sacrifices of their own soldiers, who simply bombard the defensive lines of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

I’ll just send you this link, and you can look in the chronology at how the frontline line has changed.
https://deepstatemap.live/#6/47.953/27.576


I also recommend going to Bakhmut, Avdeevka and similar hot sections of the front, and see how many corpses of Russian soldiers are still lying there, useless to anyone, neither Russia nor Putin...
When the “second army of the world” took Bakhmut for almost a year, there was such a stench of rotting flesh that our soldiers’ eyes watered, because many kilometers in front of them were covered with the corpses of Russians, whom the madman Putin threw to slaughter, only for the sake of realizing his painful fantasies.

And now you can observe the same thing - meat assaults, wave after wave, 24*7, for months... At the same time, the level of motivation in the Russian army has dropped significantly, many already understand that they are just cannon fodder, and there are no real reasons to fight in Ukraine. Although at the beginning of 2022 I spoke with Russian prisoners of war, they said in all seriousness that we have only Nazis here, we kill Russian speakers, drink their blood This is called propaganda, which corrodes the brain.

Regarding the motivation of the Ukrainians, we understand perfectly well that Russia’s goal is simply to destroy us, so we will not allow this, we have something to protect, we have something to protect, the truth is on our side, which means we will win. Yes, at a great cost, but we will definitely win.

Muahahaha! And you want respect? After such retarded claims? Colonel Argoo, you're not retarded, you're BRAINDEAD!

Let's see, your own officials confirmed it: 


Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67820916



Source: https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-fizzled-counteroffensive-fears-grow-of-a-stalemate-on-the-front-in-ukraine-a-e27e00b8-c0a0-4d18-ba33-e6f612ce8973


Source: https://ria-m.tv/ua/news/339000/na_melitopolskomu_napryamku_rosiyani_namagayutsya_nivelyuvati_litni_uspihi_zsu_chi_vdastsya_im_tse_(foto).html

OMG what a clown you are!

I ask myself a question: why are you doing this? Reality won't change, you have to accept it! Why do you always lie?

Well, your own AFU report 350.000 losses and you personally three times more? No, it's not funny. Not at all. 

I don't fully understand this. But in my current environment as a village person here, most of us grow crops (farming) even though prices are always changing and even not selling well in the market, at least we and our families can eat it and even share it with local residents who want to take it. So if it is possible to make money and even save money, we do it. And if not, at least we can utilize it. (All we do with makeshift facilities, and many alternatives that we use)

1. The only country that is built on total lies is your Russia ! So don't attribute your problems to me
It is enough to listen to the OFFICIAL channels. For example yesterday these Russian cesspool mouths told you that it was not peaceful Ukrainian cities that were shelled, but "decision making facilities".  These "objects" include an apartment building in Odessa, a warehouse of a retail chain in Kiev, a shopping center in Dnipro, a maternity hospital in Zaporozhye.... Russia is ONE FALSE ! that's why you are hysterically afraid of the TRUTH !
2. You see - you lie again ! You can live on Mars, but you are a Russian Being a Russian is not about geography, it is a mental deviation when you live lies, anti-human values, rejoice in murder and war, support bastard bloody regimes !
3. Oh, I found something to "pick on". Well translated the wrong word, English is not my native language. You tell me in essence - how is there "minor damage" ?
4. Yes, i.e. 2 (two) missiles are an unacceptable load for "the most protected and impregnable region of Russia" (according to Putin, an international criminal). And here, too, you can feel that someone is lying - either Putin, or you, or both of you
By the way, there were a lot of conscripts on this ship (and Putin as always honestly said that conscripts will not serve in combat units), and now there is a wild hysteria in Russia, trying to hide the information on the number of victims on this ship. Parents of the victims are told that "everything is fine, everyone is alive and on duty".
5. So far Russians are winning only a war against themselves - poverty degradation, economic collapse, the status of despicable outcasts of this world, death, disease, moral decay ....

Well, let's see how you follow your own recommendations. Write, Marinka has been captured by the Russians, and Avdeevka and Raboche/Verbovo in the south are in the process of being recaptured? Where is the link to authoritative sources, otherwise I have a little different information? Which countries’ sources are generally authoritative for you? What about European countries, England, USA? Or maybe we will now consider as trustworthy what is written in Iran, North Korea, and African countries?

Do you find my statements that Russia has already lost about a million of its soldiers and officers killed and wounded funny? What do you think are the real losses in Russia?

    When people keep promoting war, it's always funny because they really do not know what the entirety of the country would face if such happens. There are lot of adverse effects of war in a country and it really does affect the economy greatly. When there's way, the whole revenue generation would cease, everyone would be made to survive on management and making do with the resources they're able to keep secured during the period of the war which would in no time get exhausted.
    Even the after effect of the war would be bad because now, the nation would have to start all over again and then it'll take them longer time to get to a more balanced stand before being able to forge ahead fully into survival. It’s is easier to destroy but had to build, bouncing back is really a slow ride  it might take years and years to be fit. War as never had any benefit to the people, but rather a mass of destruction.

I think the economic situation worsens when war breaks out. Now, I am not someone who has experienced a war situation even in a radius of five hundred miles or maybe more but we always keep the news updated and that makes us think that is one hell of an experience. No one can deny the fact that life collapses right in front of our eyes. I mean come on I can't even imagine what to do if my routine is disturbed completely. No schools for kids, where to work, what about the job, the banks and my savings, etc. What happens to that? Considering the fact that the government itself has collapsed, they can't even help me get on my feet so how one can imagine our own life getting back on track anytime soon? Even if it does, it would take me ages to stand back. It's really horrible to digest how it can break down someone from the inside out. Seriously damaging for sure. So whatever economics plays, it's definitely going to be disturbed, and won't be the same. 

Yes, it most definitely is winning! Ukraine has lost momentum and they are losing atm. Lysychansk, Severodonetsk, Maryinka have been captured by Russians, Avdiivka and Rabotyne/Verbove in the South are in the process of being recaptured too. But the most important thing - Ukraine suffers huge losses, it's army will soon become combat incapable. There is a huge lack of shells, artillery systems, APCs etc. EU/US support had been exhausted.

What? You are not my opponent. You are a lying troll and will be treated as such. I will give you a few hints on what you should do to stop being a troll and gain some respect:
1. Stop lying. Claims like Russia has lost a million troops since the start of this war are hilarious. Putin is dead is even more laughable. Stop it.
2. Always provide reputable sources to the info you post. If you're saying that "Putin leaked some info on Russian losses" always mention a source with a working link to a reputable source. Ukrainian media is NOT a reputable source during the war. Neither is Russian media. You shouldn't use such media as sources.
3. Stop derailing threads.
4. Stop avoiding/ignoring valid facts presented by other users.

This is just a short list from the top of my head I'm sure there are more points. But start doing it, you will feel the difference, I swear.   

Let's turn to stubborn facts. On February 24, 2022, eight Russian armies, supported by thousands of tanks and armored vehicles, attacked Ukrainian territory from the north, east and south. The approximate number of occupation troops was about 250 thousand people. They were given the task of arriving near Kyiv in the first half of the same day, and the calculation was to capture Ukraine in three to five days, using the fact of the demonstrative power of the invading occupiers. The threat was indeed great and this was and is recognized in Kyiv. Russian troops landed at the Gostomel airfield near Kiev, and separate groups penetrated into Kyiv itself. Therefore, in addition to the army, the people themselves rose up to fight the occupiers. In Kyiv alone, over 20 thousand machine guns and other weapons were distributed to the population. So what's the result?

Just two months later, in April, the badly battered units of the ROV (Russian occupation army) were forced to flee from the central and northern parts of Ukraine, and since then this territory has remained under the control of Ukraine.

Next, we read on Wikipedia, so that there is no accusation that I am making something up:
“Having concentrated the necessary forces north of Balakleya, Kharkov region, Ukrainian troops went on the offensive in the directions of Balakleya - Volokhov Yar - Shevchenkovo - Kupyansk and in the east of Balakleya, in the areas of Savintsy, Kunye and so on.
On September 11, five days after the start of the counteroffensive, the Russian Ministry of Defense published a map as part of its daily update, according to which Russian troops had lost control over 8,370 square kilometers of the Kharkov region. The front began to pass along the Oskol River and the state Russian-Ukrainian border in the Kharkov region. An attempt by the Russian Armed Forces to organize a new line of defense along the Oskol and Seversky Donets rivers did not lead to success: by the end of September, the Armed Forces of Ukraine established a number of bridgeheads on the other bank of both rivers and developed an offensive in the direction of the Lugansk region...
The defeat of the Russian army near Kharkov led to a radical change in Russian strategy. The Russian Armed Forces have long lacked the resources for successful operations in Ukraine. After the Ukrainian counter-offensive, it became obvious that the Russian Armed Forces were not even able to maintain a passive defense."
It should be added that during the counter-offensive, the Ukrainian Armed Forces captured as many Russian armored vehicles as Ukraine did not receive from all its allies in providing military assistance to it.

Next, we turn again to Wikipedia:
“On November 11, 2022, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, during their counter-offensive, regained control over Kherson. On the same day, the Russian army announced the withdrawal of its forces from the right bank of the Dnieper. At the same time, the press secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov stated that the withdrawal of Russian troops from Kherson “will not change the status of the Kherson region,” the annexation of which was previously announced by the Russian authorities.The Russian authorities announced Genichesk as the temporary administrative capital of the occupied part of the Kherson region.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Now the Ukrainian Armed Forces have captured several bridgeheads already on the left bank of the Dnieper, which the Russians clearly did not expect, and with their fire they control the entire left bank of Ukraine, right up to the Sea of Azov.
After the Ukrainian Armed Forces destroyed the large landing ship Novocherkassk in the port on December 25 in Feodosia, that is, in the southern part of the occupied Crimean peninsula, the occupiers are withdrawing the remnants of their Black Sea Fleet from Crimea because they do not feel safe there.

What conclusion can we draw from this? Is Russia still winning?

And I would advise Serveria.com to be more tolerant of your opponents and not call them idiots and other bad words. Typically this method is used when there are not enough arguments.


   

I understand your frustrations about the war and its consequences and you are right you highlight the important and core results after the end of the war. War is a very aggressive tragedy that occurs and not only one side but also but side suffers the Same to you  consequences. This just not only affects things at that time after several years it's consequences are lasting. The economy of the world goes down and inflation rate increases the supply of things decreases and the value of currency also decreases. War at the time when occurring will only affect those persons or things that come at that place but after the war the economy destroys the backbone, causing child death and many other things. I think those who are stupid and still live in the 17s or 16s will go to war in this advanced era...

There have always been wars in the world, this is a constantly repeated situation, I do not support any war, I hope innocent people do not die in wars. There have always been wars in the world. At that time, we should look at the behavior of people. We should learn from the past, for example, during the war years, gold generally increased, and you can leave the currency of your country and invest in limited minerals or digital ones. Usually, one job is not enough for any person in today's conditions, so there should always be a second job plan, otherwise it will be very difficult to get out of it. In the environment factor, there should be people around you that you can trust during an important war.

The thing is that it doesn't. Hardly anyone else except these two pathetic desperate Ukrainian trolls colonel Argoo and general DrBeer believe in their nonsense. Every single word of what these two bozos are posting is a lie.

Bingo!