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December 23, 2023, 12:42:59 AM

Yes, the last (to this day) legitimate president of Ukraine Yanukovych killed no one. Pro-American junta leader Zelensky killed or mutilated over 1 million people. Can you feel the difference?

I wonder what arguments you have that Ukrainian President Zelensky killed one million people?
Meanwhile, Putin has indeed already killed even more than a million people, both Ukrainians and Russians, unleashing one of the most brutal wars in Ukraine. During the “direct line” on December 14, he admitted that the irretrievable losses of Russian troops in Ukraine amount to more than 300 thousand people. This is how you need to destroy your people for the sake of your imperial ambitions to forcibly recreate the new USSR. But after all, Putin’s efforts lead to the exact opposite result. It is likely that in a few years we will be able to observe how great Russia will disintegrate into separate independent republics, the central power of which was maintained only by the repression of the security forces.

This is the most blatant, shameless, retarded lie I've read on this forum this year. Could you provide the quote by Putin saying this with a source? I already know the answer and the answer is NO. Simply because he didn't say that. I already rebutted this lie in another thread but you keep posting this crap all around the forum?  Grin
Putin during the "Direct Line" on December 14 did not directly nam the losses of the Russian army in their attempt to seize Ukraine. However, these losses are easy to calculate from what they were published.

So, according to Putin, the number of Russian group is now reaching 617 thousand people, of which 244 thousand mobilized fights at the front. In the war there are also 486 thousand volunteers who, on their own initiative, signed a contract.

By the time of the military invasion of Russia in Ukraine, the group was 250 thousand people.

At the same time, 41 thousand mobilized were fired due to age, that is, this amount does not apply to losses.

If out of 617 thousand of the composition of the Russian army, subtract all the above categories of war participants and add 41 thousand those who were sent back to Russia by age, the number of irrevocable losses of the Russian Federation in the war with Ukraine will be about 322 thousand soldiers.

The irretrievable losses include the dead and the wounded. As for the losses of private military companies, then, according to Putin, according to Russian law, they do not exist, therefore it is impossible to count. Therefore, the real figure of Russian losses is much higher.

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https://apostrophe.ua/news/world/2023-12-14/putin-na-pryamoy-linii-progovorilsya-poteryah-rossiyan-v-voyne-skolko-priehalo-iz-ukraini/31 0356

A link to Putin’s video about the loss of the army, including as follows from Russia itself

https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=8yLnRE1qOlUz8Xyt&v=sEgw2OrqWTo&feature=youtu.be

https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=vybaCgXko_J27wkR&v=OGpR9WU6RB0&feature=youtu.be

Closed to these figures is evaluated by the losses of Russians and American intelligence, indicating that Russia has already lost 315 thousand of its troops in Ukraine.

According to official data from the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the irretrievable losses of Russians in Ukraine amount to 351,350 military personnel.
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December 22, 2023, 03:36:57 PM
Ukraine will be able to defend its freedom and independence, and Russia will face a sad end.
You are completely delusional. Perhaps you don't realize it yet but Ukraine has already lost the war. As a retired colonel you should understand that. Well, unless you were lying of course (I bet you were).  Grin 

I appreciate your sentiments, but the truth can never be denied. Both countries have adopted their own policies, but I don't think that Ukraine can defeat Russia.

Everyone is resisting, but the weak is always helpless in front of the strong.
Exactly, every sane person with above the room temperature IQ understands that. Well, except for trolls that is.
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December 22, 2023, 01:25:25 PM
The economic implications of war on  individuals are just too numerous. War puts everyone on hold, businesses, churches,
mosques and other religious organisations  collapse, governments tremble and all other institutions of value remain  shut down.  War reduces the purchasing power of individuals to zero, they can barely afford anything on their own and they  begin to live at the mercy of the government or charity organisations. These is because, war destabilises the individuals,  making them  unable to work or do business that will fetch them money to fend for themselves and their families (if they still have). The only thing of priority becomes how to stay safe. War is indeed a very terrible thing to happen to anyone or a group.
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December 22, 2023, 11:32:07 AM
War isn't a good and is something no one should wish for, because it affect individual life in so many perspective, the emotional trauma and the economic melt down. Thou many may take advantages considering how severe it is and if the war is your favor by being part of the leading group.
What can be profitable in war conditions are the weapons providers or weapons suppliers to both parties because for each shipment of weapons there will definitely be a reward that will be received by that party. Whether it's in the form of money or other things that might be very useful for him, apart from that, I don't think there is any party that benefits enough, including the party that won the war. Because the side that won the war also experienced destruction, such as their own infrastructure and their people were also not free to carry out their usual activities.
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December 22, 2023, 11:17:05 AM
Those who survived in the war are the real heroes and those who died at the war are the legends. In a war situation, there are many things out in place. There is restriction of movement, restriction of social gatherings, and moon light play must stopped and other benefits of life movement will be stopped. Running and hiding are also part to survive in a war time. If anyone can do any of those things to survive then there is no problem. Because it is not everybody will face the gunshots. In a war time, everyone is a victim. Like why is happening in Russia and Ukraine is affecting people in Nigeria because there are some business transaction that would have taken place but because if the way those business have stopped and likewise to Israel and Palestine.

In a way time internal businesses are destroyed and that is one the weapon used by some group to stop their opponents. They would block all the channels that supply food to their opponents camps and side. And when food is not sent to those areas then, the war would end. But in a war period, the advance countries used that time to make money. But supplying things to the two opposing sides.
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December 22, 2023, 10:33:42 AM
War has quite a large and quite serious impact on individual economies. And this can also have an impact on our daily lives. war may increase the cost of living because the price of goods may rise. This is due to disruptions in the supply chain, increased production costs, and economic uncertainty which can cause the price of goods to increase many times over.

Apart from that, war can also affect employment. Sometimes, war can lead to job cuts as some businesses may be forced to close or reduce their activities. Because war could cause economic activity to be hampered, so some companies might reduce the number of jobs and close recruitment of new employees for a while, until economic activity returns to normal and product demand increases again.

War can also affect savings and investments. Currency values may be affected, and investments such as shares or assets may experience significant fluctuations. This could make individuals feel hesitant about investing or saving money due to the economic uncertainty associated with the war. So, to keep our assets safe, we have to be more careful in sorting and choosing the type of investment.
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December 22, 2023, 09:59:21 AM
Any war provides excellent enrichment for some, and utter ruin or destruction for others. War is used to justify price increases, hunger, unemployment and other terrible economic consequences. Personally, I think that any war is very bad.

A conflict no matter how small always has its negative effects on the environment. A full blown war in any society pauses/stops any development or any activity that is going on. Sadly, there are people who benefits from war and these individuals tend to stoke up conflicts as conflicts and war is “good for business”.
Wars leaves battle scars on both the victor and the vanquished as both sides would have lost men and resources in fighting a war.
In a war, both sides suffer economic hardships and both parties are set back.
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December 22, 2023, 09:30:31 AM
War isn't a good and is something no one should wish for, because it affect individual life in so many perspective, the emotional trauma and the economic melt down. Thou many may take advantages considering how severe it is and if the war is your favor by being part of the leading group.
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December 22, 2023, 03:15:36 AM

Ukraine will resist the invasion of the Russians as best it can and has already dispelled the myth of the invincibility of the Russian “second army of the world,” which has been trying to capture the small town of Avdievka for three months now and has so far made little progress in the area of the landfill and industrial zone.

Ukraine will be able to defend its freedom and independence, and Russia will face a sad end.

I appreciate your sentiments, but the truth can never be denied. War is not the solution to any problem and always the problems are solved through negotiation.No matter how powerful the enemy is, one always defends oneself as much as possible. Ukraine is also resisting strongly, but the fact that Russia is powerful cannot be denied. It does not seem that Russia has used all its power, but there are many factors behind this war which Russia cannot ignore. Both countries have adopted their own policies, but I don't think that Ukraine can defeat Russia.

Freedom is the basic right of every human being and every country and nation, but powerful countries have often been seen to dominate smaller countries by force. This is not only the problem of Ukraine and Russia, there are other countries in the world where the big powers are trying to occupy the weak, in which Palestine and Israel are at the top, India and Kashmir. Everyone is resisting, but the weak is always helpless in front of the strong.
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December 22, 2023, 03:11:44 AM
Either we hate it or not we're left no choice to survive unless you are that rich to travel to the safest place of the planet. There really is an economic implications of war on individuals because some elite make money during this time while others are suffering. During war, internet and electricity might be down that time and I don't think in most affected areas can even think of having business or saving and earning in Bitcoin. I think the best thing to do right now is to prepare incase a war broke out because you don't have time to do that on the spot. Prepare for the worst.
Being prepared to face the worst consequences of war does not mean having to be willing to stay where the war is, but being prepared, in other words, means being able to move to another, safer place so that every activity we are currently carrying out is not disturbed by war. Any economic sector will continue to be disrupted by war so that there is no way to survive other than moving to another place, although some elite people may be able to earn money through war, but this only depends on a few individuals who we cannot judge in general because generally more people suffer as a result of war.
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December 22, 2023, 02:47:31 AM


Regarding Zelensky, he is guilty of killing so many innocent people and hundreds of thousands of AFU soldiers in this useless war. Ukraine can't win a war against Russia, it's a suicide. A president who cares about his country has to stop the war. Forget about Crimea and Donbas. They're lost for good. Just stop the war and save peoples lives ffs.


Stopping the war in your understanding and Putin’s understanding is the complete capitulation of Ukraine with the disappearance of this state from the world map and the forced transformation of Ukrainians into new Russians through blackmail, intimidation, mass deportation to remote areas of Russia, as well as torture and mass physical destruction of the dissatisfied. Ukrainians already went through this as part of the USSR; they already saw the prospect of surrender in Bucha and other de-occupied settlements, where each had special torture chambers and mass graves of killed and tortured civilian and military Ukrainians. Such a stop to the war, after which even more Ukrainians will die, is not for Ukraine.

Ukraine will resist the invasion of the Russians as best it can and has already dispelled the myth of the invincibility of the Russian “second army of the world,” which has been trying to capture the small town of Avdievka for three months now and has so far made little progress in the area of the landfill and industrial zone.

Ukraine will be able to defend its freedom and independence, and Russia will face a sad end.
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December 22, 2023, 01:28:22 AM
I hate wars. I hate conflicts. Both they are almost unavailable. Wars and conflicts disrupts lives. It kills people - men, women, babies. Businesses are shot down. Schools are shot down. Boys become father's and look after their moms and siblings because their father has gone to war. Daughters become mothers and have to care for their siblings because they lose their mothers to war. Children with perfectly normal lives become refugees

Wars and conflicts doesn't give you the time to plan. It happens fast and it happens suddenly. It comes with a huge economic cost. And for us in the cryptocurrency, we are not exempted too. If you are a miner, your mining operation is affected because if you are caught up in the conflict, you have to abandon it and flee so that you do not get killed.

I am deeply saddened by these wars. I am not taking sides because there are human causalities in both sides.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
Either we hate it or not we're left no choice to survive unless you are that rich to travel to the safest place of the planet. There really is an economic implications of war on individuals because some elite make money during this time while others are suffering. During war, internet and electricity might be down that time and I don't think in most affected areas can even think of having business or saving and earning in Bitcoin. I think the best thing to do right now is to prepare incase a war broke out because you don't have time to do that on the spot. Prepare for the worst.
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December 21, 2023, 05:57:20 PM
Any war provides excellent enrichment for some, and utter ruin or destruction for others. War is used to justify price increases, hunger, unemployment and other terrible economic consequences. Personally, I think that any war is very bad.
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December 21, 2023, 05:06:32 PM

Yes, the last (to this day) legitimate president of Ukraine Yanukovych killed no one. Pro-American junta leader Zelensky killed or mutilated over 1 million people. Can you feel the difference?

I wonder what arguments you have that Ukrainian President Zelensky killed one million people?
Meanwhile, Putin has indeed already killed even more than a million people, both Ukrainians and Russians, unleashing one of the most brutal wars in Ukraine. During the “direct line” on December 14, he admitted that the irretrievable losses of Russian troops in Ukraine amount to more than 300 thousand people. This is how you need to destroy your people for the sake of your imperial ambitions to forcibly recreate the new USSR. But after all, Putin’s efforts lead to the exact opposite result. It is likely that in a few years we will be able to observe how great Russia will disintegrate into separate independent republics, the central power of which was maintained only by the repression of the security forces.

This is the most blatant, shameless, retarded lie I've read on this forum this year. Could you provide the quote by Putin saying this with a source? I already know the answer and the answer is NO. Simply because he didn't say that. I already rebutted this lie in another thread but you keep posting this crap all around the forum?  Grin

Regarding Zelensky, he is guilty of killing so many innocent people and hundreds of thousands of AFU soldiers in this useless war. Ukraine can't win a war against Russia, it's a suicide. A president who cares about his country has to stop the war. Forget about Crimea and Donbas. They're lost for good. Just stop the war and save peoples lives ffs.

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December 20, 2023, 05:56:42 AM

Yes, the last (to this day) legitimate president of Ukraine Yanukovych killed no one. Pro-American junta leader Zelensky killed or mutilated over 1 million people. Can you feel the difference?

I wonder what arguments you have that Ukrainian President Zelensky killed one million people?
Meanwhile, Putin has indeed already killed even more than a million people, both Ukrainians and Russians, unleashing one of the most brutal wars in Ukraine. During the “direct line” on December 14, he admitted that the irretrievable losses of Russian troops in Ukraine amount to more than 300 thousand people. This is how you need to destroy your people for the sake of your imperial ambitions to forcibly recreate the new USSR. But after all, Putin’s efforts lead to the exact opposite result. It is likely that in a few years we will be able to observe how great Russia will disintegrate into separate independent republics, the central power of which was maintained only by the repression of the security forces.
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December 06, 2023, 10:32:44 AM
I would also add point 3: Joining economic and military-political alliances like NATO.
NATO is purely an American tool which I wouldn't even call an alliance and its purpose is only one thing: a military proxy to counter Russia. It is not to protect NATO members, it is only to protect US.

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As you know from history, there has never been a single case of a crazed aggressor attacking a country with greater military, technological, and economic potential.
The "biggest" member of NATO is being attacked every day. USS carney is back to Djibouti port for repairs again after yesterday's attack Smiley

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The peculiarity of bastard regimes is meanness and cowardice, so they attack only countries that are guaranteed to be unable to resist.
Exactly. This is why United States has only attacked disarmed and extremely weak countries like the disarmed Iraq, the cavemen controlled Afghanistan, etc.

1. Wrong opinion! If you study history, NATO was created after the Second World War ended, the USSR occupied the countries of Eastern Europe, placing its troops there. NATO was created with a very specific purpose: to protect the freedom and security of all its member states through political and military means. Collective defense is central to the Alliance and creates a spirit of solidarity and cohesion among its members.
Since the risks of further escalation of the USSR to the West were very high, which the USSR had stated earlier. It is enough to study what the International is, the ideas of which were promoted from Lenin to Stalin. And there were absolutely no hidden goals - the occupation of Europe and other continents by the communist regime.
Well, if you study history, you will also find out that most of the NATO confrontation had nothing to do with the USSR/RF.
And as a fact, I can name a lot of examples where the USSR captured and occupied foreign territories, but you cannot give a single example where the United States, using NATO, annexed foreign territory.

2. You are confusing small terrorists, consumables, whom puppet masters throw at some US facilities. I was talking about a full-fledged military invasion. Don't confuse these two different entities.

3. You are again confusing operations agreed upon by the international community to restore order and destroy bastard, criminal, terrorist regimes that pose a danger to both their neighbors and the whole world. And the vile terrorist attacks from the near future are an attack by Russia on small Georgia, or on the same small Moldova, or, for example, on Ukraine, which is many times, obviously weaker and smaller. This is provided that none of the listed countries pose a threat to Russia or their neighbors.
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December 05, 2023, 11:29:36 AM
I would also add point 3: Joining economic and military-political alliances like NATO.
NATO is purely an American tool which I wouldn't even call an alliance and its purpose is only one thing: a military proxy to counter Russia. It is not to protect NATO members, it is only to protect US.

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As you know from history, there has never been a single case of a crazed aggressor attacking a country with greater military, technological, and economic potential.
The "biggest" member of NATO is being attacked every day. USS carney is back to Djibouti port for repairs again after yesterday's attack Smiley

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The peculiarity of bastard regimes is meanness and cowardice, so they attack only countries that are guaranteed to be unable to resist.
Exactly. This is why United States has only attacked disarmed and extremely weak countries like the disarmed Iraq, the cavemen controlled Afghanistan, etc.
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December 05, 2023, 07:56:26 AM
The second point is perfectly correct, and is confirmed by modern practice. The "ideal example" is Ukraine, where the pro-Russian President Yanukovych, during his term of office, did everything to extremely weaken the armed forces of Ukraine, demoralize the forces, deprive them of the necessary reserves to wage a defensive war.... The result you know - 2014, Russia's terrorist attack on Ukraine, and this terrorist war continues for the 10th year....
Yes, the last (to this day) legitimate president of Ukraine Yanukovych killed no one. Pro-American junta leader Zelensky killed or mutilated over 1 million people. Can you feel the difference?

You start making things up again - the war started in February 2022 not in 2014.  

Did you forget to take your anti-halucenogenic again ? Smiley

Just in case - the so-called "legitimate president Yanukovych" cowardly ran away from the country, leaving his post, ceasing to fulfill his obligations, after he organized a bloodbath in the capital of the country, in the central square of the city. Including with the help of attracted "helpers" from the country of terrorist - Russia. Tell everyone again about his legitimacy ? Smiley

2022 is interesting - don't forget to tell the psychiatric board, Smiley
Just a reminder - the invasion of the terrorist country Russia in Ukraine began in 2014, with the occupation of Crimea, and the introduction of troops into the Lunan and Donetsk regions of Ukraine, immediately after the cowardly flight of Yanukovych.

PS You should take some sclerosis pills, give your doctor my recommendations Smiley
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December 05, 2023, 06:36:52 AM
It would be better if we avoid war zones or zones that are indicated to soon become conflict zones. Because when war and conflict break out there is not much we can do other than survive and protect our families. When war is going on, the economy will be paralyzed in that area. So any economic planning will not work there. I would probably prefer to find a way to evacuate all my family to safety. And start a new life in another area. Maybe it's not easy. Because even evacuating seems like many people have bad luck. But if the situation doesn't allow you to run, then fighting is the best. Because we cannot just remain silent when we see people near us being attacked. But even though war may make us confused and panicked. But we have to keep thinking rationally and make smart steps. But I hope you OP are not in a war or conflict zone. I hope you can get out of the zone closest to the conflict zone. Because we don't know whether the war will spread or not. Having advance preparation is much better.
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December 05, 2023, 03:03:49 AM
The second point is perfectly correct, and is confirmed by modern practice. The "ideal example" is Ukraine, where the pro-Russian President Yanukovych, during his term of office, did everything to extremely weaken the armed forces of Ukraine, demoralize the forces, deprive them of the necessary reserves to wage a defensive war.... The result you know - 2014, Russia's terrorist attack on Ukraine, and this terrorist war continues for the 10th year....
Yes, the last (to this day) legitimate president of Ukraine Yanukovych killed no one. Pro-American junta leader Zelensky killed or mutilated over 1 million people. Can you feel the difference?

You start making things up again - the war started in February 2022 not in 2014.  
73.22% of voters in Ukraine voted for Zelensky in the 2019 elections, and international observers confirmed the free will of Ukrainians in the presidential elections in the country. Therefore, Zelensky is a completely legitimate president.

Yanukovych betrayed Ukraine and, at the instigation of Putin, refused to sign an association agreement between Ukraine and the European Union, and when people came to the main square of Kiev to express their protest, he ordered shooting at unarmed people and killed 104 protesters, whom the people later nicknamed the “heavenly hundred.” When after this the protesters in the square announced that they would storm the Yanukovych administration, he fled from Ukraine to Russia, where he remains to this day. Courts in Ukraine sentenced former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych to 13 years in prison for high treason and complicity in Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine.

Ukraine, with President Zelensky, is now defending itself from a military invasion of its territory by Russians, and at the same time, not a million, but over 300 thousand Russian occupiers have been killed and maimed. If they continue to attack Ukraine with weapons in their hands, then perhaps this figure will increase to a million.

Russia captured the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, as well as parts of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions in 2014, and since that time its troops have been conducting military operations to seize the entire territory of Ukraine. Therefore, Russia’s war of aggression has been going on for ten years.
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