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newbie
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January 28, 2018, 11:09:12 AM
In my eyes, coins are less difficult to cover than BTC and crypto. one is undeclared and now not honestly traceable while used for getting items. crypto, on the other hand, can go away all sorts of trails of you occur to drop a cope with of yours somewhere. that being said, should you manage to shop for it anonymously and preserve it in the bloodless garage then you can have a risk of the usage of it without having to declare.
full member
Activity: 313
Merit: 100
April 26, 2018, 07:29:49 AM
From feb months thats very hard to bitcoin to reach again +10k value again, price is reduced to very low value now, I think we should hold
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
December 20, 2017, 07:05:24 AM
Personally I'm not surprised about this at all, countries want to know everything that their people are doing and they want to have as much information as possible, even though it is not really worth it and the information is useless for a majority of countries.

They always want to know where your money has gone and to who and where everything moves, and this means that they can stop or go after anyone that doesn't fit their worldview or what they want you to do. It really is economic totalitarianism.


And unfortunately that trend is continuing, if not accelerating.  Privacy is hard to achieve now.
it's true, and it's lamentable to watch this...because we have to have the right to an individual life...it pumps up - to report for each step
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1852
December 20, 2017, 12:33:40 AM
Personally I'm not surprised about this at all, countries want to know everything that their people are doing and they want to have as much information as possible, even though it is not really worth it and the information is useless for a majority of countries.

They always want to know where your money has gone and to who and where everything moves, and this means that they can stop or go after anyone that doesn't fit their worldview or what they want you to do. It really is economic totalitarianism.


And unfortunately that trend is continuing, if not accelerating.  Privacy is hard to achieve now.
newbie
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December 19, 2017, 03:49:44 AM
If your health is preventing you from completing your work and reaping the rewards, and it would enable you to take care of your health while someone sincere and capable develops your project I don't think that would be a bad idea.

It would also depend if you think their offer is fair compensation for the time you have spent on it over the past few years.

It would also be a disappointing to see the project bought out, abandoned, and sabotaged if they are dishonest, and you are prevented from taking over again.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
December 04, 2017, 01:45:10 AM
Personally I'm not surprised about this at all, countries want to know everything that their people are doing and they want to have as much information as possible, even though it is not really worth it and the information is useless for a majority of countries.

They always want to know where your money has gone and to who and where everything moves, and this means that they can stop or go after anyone that doesn't fit their worldview or what they want you to do. It really is economic totalitarianism.
newbie
Activity: 47
Merit: 0
November 10, 2017, 09:17:22 PM
...Philosophy of morality (and just morality on your own, or philosophy by yourself) are large matters.  Re downloading songs illegally, well, when I want to listen to songs, I both change the radio on, put on a CD or go to Youtube.  I never down load tunes, but that's just me.Would be listening to songs on Youtube depend as immoral?  Not heading there.  Example: does unlawful downloading "struggle the male"?  Arguing philosophy is above my paygrade.  A deep, deep set of rabbit holes.  I have bigger fish I am attempting to fry: defending my worthwhile property in the perilous instances to occur.
newbie
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November 10, 2017, 03:11:25 AM
...OK, but Einstein was, nicely, Einstein.  I am just attempting to protect my small behunky in the violent times in the future, and to try and carry what is possible over time for the children's advantage (or grandchild's).  InchGrandchildren, the genetic payback."  (author unfamiliar)Those nasty looking integrals produce the willies...  Or my eye impair up, purely your body's defense you know, cannot do anything whatsoever about it.
newbie
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November 07, 2017, 02:19:31 PM
I think should you commit better you've got a little capital in investing for me just pointless.
newbie
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November 07, 2017, 01:29:16 AM
...generalize, login name, TPTBWhen the topic get so O/Capital t and is full of obscure words that only philosophy majors know, I just allow my eye to cloud over while reading them, and allow my thoughts float.Sort of an inexpensive way to get just a little relaxation around here. 
newbie
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November 06, 2017, 04:26:50 PM
...Philosophy of morality (and merely morality on your own, or viewpoint on your own) are huge topics.  Re installing music illegally, well, when I wish to listen to songs, I possibly change the radio on, placed on a Compact disc or go to Youtube.  I don't obtain music, but that is just me.Would be listening to songs on Youtube count as immoral?  Not heading there.  Example: does illegal installing Inchbattle the man"?  Arguing viewpoint is over my paygrade.  A heavy, heavy group of rabbit holes.  I have larger fish I am attempting to cook: protecting my worthwhile property in the perilous times in the future.
legendary
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Merit: 1852
September 15, 2017, 10:56:47 PM
...Philosophy of morality (and just morality by yourself, or philosophy by yourself) are massive matters.  Re downloading music illegally, effectively, when I want to hear to songs, I possibly switch the radio on, put on a CD or go to Youtube.  I never download music, but that's just me.Would be listening to music on Youtube rely as immoral?  Not heading there.  Example: does unlawful downloading "combat the gentleman"?  Arguing philosophy is earlier mentioned my paygrade.  A deep, deep established of rabbit holes.  I have even bigger fish I am attempting to fry: protecting my worthwhile assets in the perilous moments to occur.


I started this thread with exactly the same thinking: protect my assets.  Not to steal music or other's intellectual property, etc.

I try to stay away from morality arguments, as I am quite imperfect.
newbie
Activity: 56
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September 15, 2017, 02:03:39 PM
...Philosophy of morality (and just morality by yourself, or philosophy by yourself) are massive matters.  Re downloading music illegally, effectively, when I want to hear to songs, I possibly switch the radio on, put on a CD or go to Youtube.  I never download music, but that's just me.Would be listening to music on Youtube rely as immoral?  Not heading there.  Example: does unlawful downloading "combat the gentleman"?  Arguing philosophy is earlier mentioned my paygrade.  A deep, deep established of rabbit holes.  I have even bigger fish I am attempting to fry: protecting my worthwhile assets in the perilous moments to occur.
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
September 01, 2017, 06:26:28 AM
...generalize, username, TPTBWhen the matter get so O/T and is entire of obscure terms that only philosophy majors know, I just let my eyes to cloud more than whilst studying them, and let my head drift.Form of a inexpensive way to get a tiny rest all around below. 
newbie
Activity: 55
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August 15, 2017, 04:20:39 PM
He is a member of the Liberal Party and says he is there to pursue “radical reforms,” which include throwing out the national curriculum in schools, for they are indeed pointless, and reimposing a debt ceiling. He also wants to get rid of the “official” talking points used by politicians and embrace what he calls respect for the voters’ intelligence by speaking plainly.
legendary
Activity: 2912
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June 03, 2017, 08:57:26 PM
...

"Final Results" from my Peru trip:



Each of the above are Peruvian "Una Libra" coins, their clone of the British Sovereign, minted on-and-off from 1898 - 1969.  They contain 0.235 toz AGW.

Along with Bitcoin, a fine defense against Economic Totalitarianism!



legendary
Activity: 2912
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June 01, 2017, 02:35:48 PM
...

Cross-posted because this is relevant to Economic Totalitarianism:

First, a fun image:



Names of participants ("Behold your Masters"):

CHAIRMAN

Castries, Henri de (FRA), Former Chairman and CEO, AXA; President of Institut Montaigne
 
PARTICIPANTS

Achleitner, Paul M. (DEU), Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Deutsche Bank AG
Adonis, Andrew (GBR), Chair, National Infrastructure Commission
Agius, Marcus (GBR), Chairman, PA Consulting Group
Akyol, Mustafa (TUR), Senior Visiting Fellow, Freedom Project at Wellesley College
Alstadheim, Kjetil B. (NOR), Political Editor, Dagens Næringsliv
Altman, Roger C. (USA), Founder and Senior Chairman, Evercore
Arnaut, José Luis (PRT), Managing Partner, CMS Rui Pena & Arnaut
Barroso, José M. Durão (PRT), Chairman, Goldman Sachs International
Bäte, Oliver (DEU), CEO, Allianz SE
Baumann, Werner (DEU), Chairman, Bayer AG
Baverez, Nicolas (FRA), Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher
Benko, René (AUT), Founder and Chairman of the Advisory Board, SIGNA Holding GmbH
Berner, Anne-Catherine (FIN), Minister of Transport and Communications
Botín, Ana P. (ESP), Executive Chairman, Banco Santander
Brandtzæg, Svein Richard (NOR), President and CEO, Norsk Hydro ASA
Brennan, John O. (USA), Senior Advisor, Kissinger Associates Inc.
Bsirske, Frank (DEU), Chairman, United Services Union
Buberl, Thomas (FRA), CEO, AXA
Bunn, M. Elaine (USA), Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense
Burns, William J. (USA), President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
Çakiroglu, Levent (TUR), CEO, Koç Holding A.S.
Çamlibel, Cansu (TUR), Washington DC Bureau Chief, Hürriyet Newspaper
Cebrián, Juan Luis (ESP), Executive Chairman, PRISA and El País
Clemet, Kristin (NOR), CEO, Civita
Cohen, David S. (USA), Former Deputy Director, CIA
Collison, Patrick (USA), CEO, Stripe
Cotton, Tom (USA), Senator
Cui, Tiankai (CHN), Ambassador to the United States
Döpfner, Mathias (DEU), CEO, Axel Springer SE
Elkann, John (ITA), Chairman, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles
Enders, Thomas (DEU), CEO, Airbus SE
Federspiel, Ulrik (DNK), Group Executive, Haldor Topsøe Holding A/S
Ferguson, Jr., Roger W. (USA), President and CEO, TIAA
Ferguson, Niall (USA), Senior Fellow, Hoover Institution, Stanford University
Gianotti, Fabiola (ITA), Director General, CERN
Gozi, Sandro (ITA), State Secretary for European Affairs
Graham, Lindsey (USA), Senator
Greenberg, Evan G. (USA), Chairman and CEO, Chubb Group
Griffin, Kenneth (USA), Founder and CEO, Citadel Investment Group, LLC
Gruber, Lilli (ITA), Editor-in-Chief and Anchor "Otto e mezzo", La7 TV
Guindos, Luis de (ESP), Minister of Economy, Industry and Competiveness
Haines, Avril D. (USA), Former Deputy National Security Advisor
Halberstadt, Victor (NLD), Professor of Economics, Leiden University
Hamers, Ralph (NLD), Chairman, ING Group
Hedegaard, Connie (DNK), Chair, KR Foundation
Hennis-Plasschaert, Jeanine (NLD), Minister of Defence, The Netherlands
Hobson, Mellody (USA), President, Ariel Investments LLC
Hoffman, Reid (USA), Co-Founder, LinkedIn and Partner, Greylock
Houghton, Nicholas (GBR), Former Chief of Defence
Ischinger, Wolfgang (INT), Chairman, Munich Security Conference
Jacobs, Kenneth M. (USA), Chairman and CEO, Lazard
Johnson, James A. (USA), Chairman, Johnson Capital Partners
Jordan, Jr., Vernon E. (USA), Senior Managing Director, Lazard Frères & Co. LLC
Karp, Alex (USA), CEO, Palantir Technologies
Kengeter, Carsten (DEU), CEO, Deutsche Börse AG
Kissinger, Henry A. (USA), Chairman, Kissinger Associates Inc.
Klatten, Susanne (DEU), Managing Director, SKion GmbH
Kleinfeld, Klaus (USA), Former Chairman and CEO, Arconic
Knot, Klaas H.W. (NLD), President, De Nederlandsche Bank
Koç, Ömer M. (TUR), Chairman, Koç Holding A.S.
Kotkin, Stephen (USA), Professor in History and International Affairs, Princeton University
Kravis, Henry R. (USA), Co-Chairman and Co-CEO, KKR
Kravis, Marie-Josée (USA), Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute
Kudelski, André (CHE), Chairman and CEO, Kudelski Group
Lagarde, Christine (INT), Managing Director, International Monetary Fund
Lenglet, François (FRA), Chief Economics Commentator, France 2
Leysen, Thomas (BEL), Chairman, KBC Group
Liddell, Christopher (USA), Assistant to the President and Director of Strategic Initiatives
Lööf, Annie (SWE), Party Leader, Centre Party
Mathews, Jessica T. (USA), Distinguished Fellow, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
McAuliffe, Terence (USA), Governor of Virginia
McKay, David I. (CAN), President and CEO, Royal Bank of Canada
McMaster, H.R. (USA), National Security Advisor
Micklethwait, John (INT), Editor-in-Chief, Bloomberg LP
Minton Beddoes, Zanny (INT), Editor-in-Chief, The Economist
Molinari, Maurizio (ITA), Editor-in-Chief, La Stampa
Monaco, Lisa (USA), Former Homeland Security Officer
Morneau, Bill (CAN), Minister of Finance
Mundie, Craig J. (USA), President, Mundie & Associates
Murtagh, Gene M. (IRL), CEO, Kingspan Group plc
Netherlands, H.M. the King of the (NLD)
Noonan, Peggy (USA), Author and Columnist, The Wall Street Journal
O'Leary, Michael (IRL), CEO, Ryanair D.A.C.
Osborne, George (GBR), Editor, London Evening Standard
Papahelas, Alexis (GRC), Executive Editor, Kathimerini Newspaper
Papalexopoulos, Dimitri (GRC), CEO, Titan Cement Co.
Petraeus, David H. (USA), Chairman, KKR Global Institute
Pind, Søren (DNK), Minister for Higher Education and Science
Puga, Benoît (FRA), Grand Chancellor of the Legion of Honor and Chancellor of the National Order of Merit
Rachman, Gideon (GBR), Chief Foreign Affairs Commentator, The Financial Times
Reisman, Heather M. (CAN), Chair and CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.
Rivera Díaz, Albert (ESP), President, Ciudadanos Party
Rosén, Johanna (SWE), Professor in Materials Physics, Linköping University
Ross, Wilbur L. (USA), Secretary of Commerce
Rubenstein, David M. (USA), Co-Founder and Co-CEO, The Carlyle Group
Rubin, Robert E. (USA), Co-Chair, Council on Foreign Relations and Former Treasury Secretary
Ruoff, Susanne (CHE), CEO, Swiss Post
Rutten, Gwendolyn (BEL), Chair, Open VLD
Sabia, Michael (CAN), CEO, Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec
Sawers, John (GBR), Chairman and Partner, Macro Advisory Partners
Schadlow, Nadia (USA), Deputy Assistant to the President, National Security Council
Schmidt, Eric E. (USA), Executive Chairman, Alphabet Inc.
Schneider-Ammann, Johann N. (CHE), Federal Councillor, Swiss Confederation
Scholten, Rudolf (AUT), President, Bruno Kreisky Forum for International Dialogue
Severgnini, Beppe (ITA), Editor-in-Chief, 7-Corriere della Sera
Sikorski, Radoslaw (POL), Senior Fellow, Harvard University
Slat, Boyan (NLD), CEO and Founder, The Ocean Cleanup
Spahn, Jens (DEU), Parliamentary State Secretary and Federal Ministry of Finance
Stephenson, Randall L. (USA), Chairman and CEO, AT&T
Stern, Andrew (USA), President Emeritus, SEIU and Senior Fellow, Economic Security Project
Stoltenberg, Jens (INT), Secretary General, NATO
Summers, Lawrence H. (USA), Charles W. Eliot University Professor, Harvard University
Tertrais, Bruno (FRA), Deputy Director, Fondation pour la recherche stratégique
Thiel, Peter (USA), President, Thiel Capital
Topsøe, Jakob Haldor (DNK), Chairman, Haldor Topsøe Holding A/S
Ülgen, Sinan (TUR), Founding and Partner, Istanbul Economics
Vance, J.D. (USA), Author and Partner, Mithril
Wahlroos, Björn (FIN), Chairman, Sampo Group, Nordea Bank, UPM-Kymmene Corporation
Wallenberg, Marcus (SWE), Chairman, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken AB
Walter, Amy (USA), Editor, The Cook Political Report
Weston, Galen G. (CAN), CEO and Executive Chairman, Loblaw Companies Ltd and George Weston Companies
White, Sharon (GBR), Chief Executive, Ofcom
Wieseltier, Leon (USA), Isaiah Berlin Senior Fellow in Culture and Policy, The Brookings Institution
Wolf, Martin H. (INT), Chief Economics Commentator, Financial Times
Wolfensohn, James D. (USA), Chairman and CEO, Wolfensohn & Company
Wunsch, Pierre (BEL), Vice-Governor, National Bank of Belgium
Zeiler, Gerhard (AUT), President, Turner International
Zients, Jeffrey D. (USA), Former Director, National Economic Council
Zoellick, Robert B. (USA), Non-Executive Chairman, AllianceBernstein L.P.


hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 507
May 31, 2017, 01:43:31 AM
I prefer cash that is easier to store than btc and crypto, which one of them will not be announced, and even then can be tracked when used for goods transactions.

Cash is good, I say it as a numismatist and a bonist Grin. But we should not forget about crypto-currencies, in 5-10 years they should take a special place in payments
legendary
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Merit: 1852
May 31, 2017, 12:52:22 AM
I prefer cash that is easier to store than btc and crypto, which one of them will not be announced, and even then can be tracked when used for goods transactions.



There is no doubt that CA$H is one of the best defenses against Economic Totalitarianism.  But it is getting harder to use in trying to protect financial privacy.  It is problematic now to buy airline tickets with cash, or cars, or anything else of high value.  Just try withdrawing $20,000 in cash from a bank, and watch the fun...

We are now seeing Harvard economists like Ken Roggoff (sp?) dump on cash -- he wrote a book on the curse of cash recently.

One problem in maintaining anonymity of BTC are the "entrance and exit ramps".  It is often hard to get BTC anonymously (the BTMs want ID, etc.).  And if you buy anything with BTC (gold from providentmetals for example), they have your address (for shipping it), which means the government (or hackers) could get that info too.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
May 30, 2017, 10:58:55 PM
I prefer cash that is easier to store than btc and crypto, which one of them will not be announced, and even then can be tracked when used for goods transactions.
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