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September 06, 2015, 12:27:47 PM
Jesus is a living person. And once you have met him, the notion that he "does not exist" is frankly, quite stupid.
legendary
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Facts are more efficient than fud
September 06, 2015, 10:52:58 AM
Nietzsche's point that the highest ideal of Christianity is the destruction of most of mankind  - -

- - only shows how mistaken he is regarding Christianity.

The highest ideal of Christianity is that God became man to make man God.

Haven't heard it this way before. Very poetic, good sir.

"Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done, on Earth, as it is in Heaven"
"As above, so below"
The six pointed star (interlaced triangles pointing up and down) represents this ideal too.


Why, vokain, that almost sounds like Emmet Fox.  Bravo.

As above, so below.

But, all of this has to come from WITHIN.  Let those who do not believe do so in peace.  And it's even better to pray for them.  And that has a double-good effect.

Apparently your prayers worked! I've decided I'm going to worship the Greek Gods! My logic being that many are better than one, always go with an original, I like the idea of Gods who actively (physically manifest) take part in your life for better or for worse, and i believe the adoption of a foreign god is what has led to the current problems in Greece--if they'd go back to their roots, the Gods would set the world right again and the Greeks would return to dominance. May Zeus bless you all for showing me the light!

Now, does anyone want to join my campaign to move books on Zeus away from the mythology section and back to the religious section? I'll be taking donations, of course. 10% of your weekly income is prescribed to get the maximum benefit from the Gods.

You kind of receive the God that You allow to Be. The Greek gods have their own, maybe given, maybe earned (the immortalized mortal-born, which is a powerful ideal for all of us) domains of godliness, but they're, separately, not all encompassing. I think that's where the split from paganism and monotheistic Abrahamic religions arose. The Qabalah is a good lens to conceptualize God in Its different degrees.

Edit: OROBTC, thank you for the Emmet Fox suggestion, just started The Sermon on the Mount yesterday:)

Any conception of god that depends on a trickster god (lucifer, satan, devil) isn't all encompassing. Maybe what jung was talking about when he said the evolution of man was determinant on incorporating your shadow self instead of badgering it with morals and dogma (I'm adding my own spin to make it more obvious--of course). Once you lose the idea of a permanent right and wrong and accept humanity for what it is, evolving hopefully, you stop trying to will it towards an impossible ideal (god ideal jammed against an impossible--but sadly more realistic due to the slant being too big towards godism--devil ideal) and start willing it towards what it actually can become.  I want a reality based on reality, so any system that starts "In The Beginning...." with a humanoid as omniscient and omnipresent is a deal-breaker for me. Now if you want to develop artificial systems to help men to come closer to the possibility of that ideal, then i'm all ears. The Wright brothers didn't fly because god gave them wings, they flew because they understood  how to assemble the tools to get off the ground and dismissed the idea of "If god wanted us to fly, he would have given us wings." If mankind wants godlike knowledge and to live unbounded lifespans, more than a few men will need to put down the Bible and start developing towards a singularity that lets man become the AI.
legendary
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September 06, 2015, 10:30:33 AM
Nietzsche's point that the highest ideal of Christianity is the destruction of most of mankind  - -

- - only shows how mistaken he is regarding Christianity.

The highest ideal of Christianity is that God became man to make man God.

Haven't heard it this way before. Very poetic, good sir.

"Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done, on Earth, as it is in Heaven"
"As above, so below"
The six pointed star (interlaced triangles pointing up and down) represents this ideal too.


Why, vokain, that almost sounds like Emmet Fox.  Bravo.

As above, so below.

But, all of this has to come from WITHIN.  Let those who do not believe do so in peace.  And it's even better to pray for them.  And that has a double-good effect.

Apparently your prayers worked! I've decided I'm going to worship the Greek Gods! My logic being that many are better than one, always go with an original, I like the idea of Gods who actively (physically manifest) take part in your life for better or for worse, and i believe the adoption of a foreign god is what has led to the current problems in Greece--if they'd go back to their roots, the Gods would set the world right again and the Greeks would return to dominance. May Zeus bless you all for showing me the light!

Now, does anyone want to join my campaign to move books on Zeus away from the mythology section and back to the religious section? I'll be taking donations, of course. 10% of your weekly income is prescribed to get the maximum benefit from the Gods.

You kind of receive the God that You allow to Be. The Greek gods have their own, maybe given, maybe earned (the immortalized mortal-born, which is a powerful ideal for all of us) domains of godliness, but they're, separately, not all encompassing. I think that's where the split from paganism and monotheistic Abrahamic religions arose. The Qabalah is a good lens to conceptualize God in Its different degrees.

Edit: OROBTC, thank you for the Emmet Fox suggestion, just started The Sermon on the Mount yesterday:)
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September 05, 2015, 04:18:04 PM
These are not the terrorists you are looking for . . .

https://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START_UnderstandingLawEnforcementIntelligenceProcesses_July2014.pdf
"3Although most organizations group Sovereign Citizens with other right wing groups, they are quite unique. Sovereigns do not specifically share the "supremacist" views of the Klan, etc. Their focus is not on individuals (e.g., minorities, Jews, etc.) rather their focus is on government dysfunction and abuse of authority. Their anti-government ideology is arguably more akin to left wing anarchists than right wing Klansmen."

The People -> people -> citizens -> Sovereign Citizens -> Sovereigns -> Terrorists?

What are you doing America? This is like watching an old friend self-harming!

  *shakes head*   *looks away*

May Kafka grant you a pleasant and peaceful weekend.

BTW Nietzsche was a wimp, he never said what he _really_ thought :-)
legendary
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September 04, 2015, 12:54:15 AM
Nietzsche's point that the highest ideal of Christianity is the destruction of most of mankind  - -

- - only shows how mistaken he is regarding Christianity.

The highest ideal of Christianity is that God became man to make man God.

Haven't heard it this way before. Very poetic, good sir.

"Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done, on Earth, as it is in Heaven"
"As above, so below"
The six pointed star (interlaced triangles pointing up and down) represents this ideal too.


Why, vokain, that almost sounds like Emmet Fox.  Bravo.

As above, so below.

But, all of this has to come from WITHIN.  Let those who do not believe do so in peace.  And it's even better to pray for them.  And that has a double-good effect.

Apparently your prayers worked! I've decided I'm going to worship the Greek Gods! My logic being that many are better than one, always go with an original, I like the idea of Gods who actively (physically manifest) take part in your life for better or for worse, and i believe the adoption of a foreign god is what has led to the current problems in Greece--if they'd go back to their roots, the Gods would set the world right again and the Greeks would return to dominance. May Zeus bless you all for showing me the light!

Now, does anyone want to join my campaign to move books on Zeus away from the mythology section and back to the religious section? I'll be taking donations, of course. 10% of your weekly income is prescribed to get the maximum benefit from the Gods.
I like your avatar sir - but now I like you more!   Grin
legendary
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September 03, 2015, 11:20:15 PM
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Indeed, generalizethis.  Spreading bad vibes is no good.  Msg received.

Economic totalitarianism is bad enough without unwanted evangelization, I was kind-of hinting that above.

Peace to all.
legendary
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Facts are more efficient than fud
September 03, 2015, 11:03:13 PM
Nietzsche's point that the highest ideal of Christianity is the destruction of most of mankind  - -

- - only shows how mistaken he is regarding Christianity.

The highest ideal of Christianity is that God became man to make man God.

Haven't heard it this way before. Very poetic, good sir.

"Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done, on Earth, as it is in Heaven"
"As above, so below"
The six pointed star (interlaced triangles pointing up and down) represents this ideal too.


Why, vokain, that almost sounds like Emmet Fox.  Bravo.

As above, so below.

But, all of this has to come from WITHIN.  Let those who do not believe do so in peace.  And it's even better to pray for them.  And that has a double-good effect.

Apparently your prayers worked! I've decided I'm going to worship the Greek Gods! My logic being that many are better than one, always go with an original, I like the idea of Gods who actively (physically manifest) take part in your life for better or for worse, and i believe the adoption of a foreign god is what has led to the current problems in Greece--if they'd go back to their roots, the Gods would set the world right again and the Greeks would return to dominance. May Zeus bless you all for showing me the light!

Now, does anyone want to join my campaign to move books on Zeus away from the mythology section and back to the religious section? I'll be taking donations, of course. 10% of your weekly income is prescribed to get the maximum benefit from the Gods.
sr. member
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September 03, 2015, 10:28:41 PM
New Zealand – Bucking the Trend to Move Cashless?

You can remain a non-tax resident in New Zealand by not staying there more than 183 days out of every 12 months. If you do become a tax resident, you get 2 years of tax free on worldwide income (not only domestic income). And then you can become a non-tax resident again by being outside the country for 325 days in a year:

http://www.ird.govt.nz/forms-guides/keyword/e-commerce/ir292-guide-nz-tax-residence.html

Remember Kim Dotcom has chosen NZ for his safe haven. NZ does have the north-westerlies which make some people very moody, but apparently this can be avoided seasonally and also living on the main island.
legendary
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September 03, 2015, 10:12:05 PM
Nietzsche's point that the highest ideal of Christianity is the destruction of most of mankind  - -

- - only shows how mistaken he is regarding Christianity.

The highest ideal of Christianity is that God became man to make man God.

Haven't heard it this way before. Very poetic, good sir.

"Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done, on Earth, as it is in Heaven"
"As above, so below"
The six pointed star (interlaced triangles pointing up and down) represents this ideal too.


Why, vokain, that almost sounds like Emmet Fox.  Bravo.

As above, so below.

But, all of this has to come from WITHIN.  Let those who do not believe do so in peace.  And it's even better to pray for them.  And that has a double-good effect.
legendary
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Strange, yet attractive.
September 03, 2015, 04:59:52 PM
Can't go anywhere, but I'd just love to see it rolling... Smiley

A federal judge who called NSA’s surveillance practices “almost Orwellian,” says that he found a way to revive a constitutional challenge to the controversial program after a federal court lifted his 2013 injunction blocking the program.
In 2013 Richard J. Leon ruled that the NSA’s bulk snooping was likely unconstitutional. At the time he put his ruling on hold pending review by an appeals court.



http://www.rt.com/usa/314300-judge-challange-nsa-snooping/

almost Orwellian,” hahahahaha!!!
sr. member
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September 03, 2015, 12:13:42 PM

I am designing my first version of the consensus network such that mining clients connect over the standard HTTP or HTTPS ports, so they will never be censored by port (only by sniffing the content of the protocol which can't be done if HTTPS unless it is backdoored by the NSA). And there are additional measures that can be done later to even improve on that.

That is one thing I hate about Bitmessage that it doesn't function on PLDT (it functions on Globe) because of the port blocking issue.
legendary
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September 03, 2015, 09:43:44 AM
Nietzsche's point that the highest ideal of Christianity is the destruction of most of mankind  - -

- - only shows how mistaken he is regarding Christianity.

The highest ideal of Christianity is that God became man to make man God.

Haven't heard it this way before. Very poetic, good sir.

"Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done, on Earth, as it is in Heaven"
"As above, so below"
The six pointed star (interlaced triangles pointing up and down) represents this ideal too.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 262
September 03, 2015, 09:25:03 AM
lack of PoW to create a closed system are really the key in linking biometric data to users  ...  Things like this are much harder to do with PoW & Bitcoin or Cryptonote.

Correct on the first point. Incorrect on the second one. It is trivial to capture Satoshi's design with regulation of 51% of the pools (weighted by hash rate of course). They can then refuse to include any block that doesn't include 666 KYC identification.

I don't really see PoW playing out like that.  It would just cause the private sector miners in that country to go bankrupt...

The commonwealth of nations (G20, etc) can regulate the mining hash power in their jurisdictions which will comprise more than 51% of available hash rate in the world. Sorry Zimbabwe won't help you. Please I don't have time for your wandering illogic. If you are going to me a serious post, please get organized first.

Do also realize the importance of electrical subsidies, location near to geothermal power, etc. in terms of profitability of mining.

Iceland appears to be in the back pocket of the banksters again. And the entire world's hashrate isn't going to suddenly relocate there.

The nations are gradually getting more organized in terms of global coordination. They will become very focused on that as the global collapse ensues and they want to hunt down all capital.
legendary
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Facts are more efficient than fud
September 03, 2015, 09:17:29 AM
Nietzsche's point that the highest ideal of Christianity is the destruction of most of mankind  - -

- - only shows how mistaken he is regarding Christianity.

The highest ideal of Christianity is that God became man to make man God.

Revelations ends not with everyone becoming god-man (which is an egotistical idea--why can't god be a pig or a tree closer to divinity? Clue: god was invented by whom?), but with a small portion of the world surviving a near extinction event while those that don't survive are damned for eternity--I think Nietzsche got it dead right.  Wink

legendary
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September 03, 2015, 06:43:12 AM
lack of PoW to create a closed system are really the key in linking biometric data to users  ...  Things like this are much harder to do with PoW & Bitcoin or Cryptonote.

Correct on the first point. Incorrect on the second one. It is trivial to capture Satoshi's design with regulation of 51% of the pools (weighted by hash rate of course). They can then refuse to include any block that doesn't include 666 KYC identification.

I don't really see PoW playing out like that.  It would just cause the private sector miners in that country to go bankrupt and then you'd have mining occur only in places like Zimbabwe, Romania, or Iceland.  The situation you mentioned seems like it would require the government themselves to be running the mining centers at a loss and also having 51% or more.  I guess that is possible, but you kind of left that part out.

If an event like that did occur, I think Bitcoin would be forked in some manner in an attempt to avoid the government datacenters, maybe even drastically to something like PoS or DPoS.  I believe scenarios like this show that Bitcoin will probably be an underground currency for it's entire existence, and that there will be multiple supported versions of the coin running in the wild simultaneously during it's lifetime.  One will be referred to as governmentcoin, and the other will be called criminalcoin or something similar.

This does bring up many positive aspects of Cryptonote though.  The government can only 51% attack it and not 51% parasitically regulate it since people would just not use whatever client the government wanted to fork it to for unraveling anonymity.

As a side issue, I was thinking a lot about Fuserleer's system, am I correct in saying that Emunie is trivial for a state actor to attack than either PoW, PoS, or DPOS?  

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12317066
legendary
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September 03, 2015, 05:59:16 AM

..when it begins to sour there will be an alcohol content--used by drunkards(they have their mixes)



Off topic here, when I was in Banaue I was offered coconut wine by the locals, I declined since I had a long bus ride ahead of me, and now I can be glad that I did with my new knowledge of it's laxative qualities  Cool

I forgot to tell, when it begins to sour or when it is for alcohol consumption, there will be no more laxative effect. Laxative effect is for fresh and sweet coconut sap only.

This maybe off topic but this can help mr. Anonymint out there.

I would recommend for him to look at health benefits of colon cleansing and enemas. Fermenting foods also can boost his health because there are vitamis that don't exist even in greens..i think it was vitamin B12, researched on that a few years back...try looking at youtube for liferegenerator and lou corona they have infos that are helpful
legendary
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September 03, 2015, 05:45:14 AM

..when it begins to sour there will be an alcohol content--used by drunkards(they have their mixes)



Off topic here, when I was in Banaue I was offered coconut wine by the locals, I declined since I had a long bus ride ahead of me, and now I can be glad that I did with my new knowledge of it's laxative qualities  Cool
legendary
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September 03, 2015, 05:32:37 AM
For those who are suffering Multiple Sclerosis or any sort of chronic disease, I understand your suffering (even though others readers really can't feel and understand your suffering) and I want to tell you that I am having a miraculous result thus far several days after a 10 day fasting.

...

 Cheesy

This is so incredibly off-topic but while you are at it let me suggest: have you tried getting your hands on local coconut vinegar? kind of looks like this:



Although I believe this one is the "tuba" derivative which is consumed as an alcoholic beverage.

When I'm in the Philippines it's part of almost all of my meals and has the perfect combination of coconut goodness and the spice you're looking for (I believe they use bird eyes chilies to make it)

Anyway... good stuff  Grin

Tuba is coconut sap..

Within 4 hours after harvest tuba is reddish brown, this is made into coco sugar for export and local consumption. After four hours it will start to turn cloudy white, this is still sweet with the hint of sourness (this is reject for coco sugar, i know a farmer who turn this into coco syrup with a hint of sour but it is still good).

Fresh, sweet coconut sap will have a laxative effect after you drink more than two cups---this is good for cleaning your intestines

Refrigerate or freeze to lengthen freshness...when it begins to sour there will be an alcohol content--used by drunkards(they have their mixes)

Any leftover can be stored (container 70% full) at room temperature with the cap a little bit open (will explode if tightly closed) to make vinegar, to make the vinegar more sour, remove the "mother"--the thing that settles at the bottom and store it again..

I don't know why there are people here in the Philippines who go after apple cider..but raw coconut sap vinegar is better and i can purchase coconut sap for only 2.22$ for 10 liters and i cant consume it all, most of it is made it into vinegar.
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