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August 08, 2015, 02:00:40 PM
@OROBTC - I have been thinking about your question, and concluded that an
uncertainty principle operates here. If I tell you anything useful, you
will be unable to use it. I know that is not much use ;-)
Welcome to the Minor uncertainty principle.

I can draw your attention to some things that are already known.

Plato - "When the tyrant has disposed of foreign enemies by conquest or
treaty and there is nothing to fear from them, then he is always stirring
up some war or other, in order that the people may require a leader."

A tyrant is an absolute ruler unrestrained by law or constitution,
or one who has usurped legitimate sovereignty ... usurper of sovereign
power who makes his subjects the victims of his passions and unjust
desires, which he substitutes for laws.

Some argue that a gold standard reduces the desire for war, suggesting
that modern wars create so much debt that war and gold money are
incompatible. Clearly any Tyrant or MIC would wish to maintain an
ongoing series of emergencies in order to maximise their grip on power
and continue the flow of wealth under their control.

"War is a Racket" - Smedley D. Butler.

War - of whatever type - replaces laws with debt, pretty much by
definition. What happens next depends on where the economy is on the
Laffer curve. War, and its debt may cause an increase in economic activity.
It will also result in an increase in taxation. The government, whether
authoritarian or not, then faces hard choices if the economy begins to
contract: it may be unable to attract funding; the flow of material to the
conflict (or MIC pockets) may cease; promises made and social contracts
may be broken if funds are unavailable.

If no-one protests the war, acceptance of the immediate and deferred
cost is implied, even though the cost may fall on those least able
to bear it. The Tyrant has an incentive to demonise the needy and
exalt the warrior when spending money the government does not have,
because in that way loyalty can be rewarded and power exercised.

If no external enemy can be found, a state of economic totalitarianism
then exists, with war declared on the taxpayer and on the weakest, and
bringing the seizure of goods and of wealth on mere suspicion. This
comes about because of the predatory nature of an irreplaceable
authoritarian regime. A good test for the condition of any government
therefore is the replacement rate in elections, free or otherwise.

Accompanying this, gold goes into hiding, or is used for international
trade, to pay mercenaries, or to pay tribute. The currency is debased to
pay the interest on debt, and perhaps the MIC. Economic activity
contracts while inflation soars. Eventually, all faith in the currency
collapses, and with it the government's credit and credibility.

Thse things take years to decades to complete.
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August 08, 2015, 01:47:34 PM
Do a kickstarter to get someone to make a better open-source OLAP database. Then help market it. You'll be doing Knowledge Age work. When you see a problem, solve it. That is the Knowledge Age.

I believe Monero has a GUI now, but I am not sure.

I agree point & click. You'll be happy if ever I finish my work. I was 18 hours on the anonymity white paper today. Over 48 references cited already. My blinded eye is so blood shot that I can't barely keep it open. Headed to sleep. Zzzzzzz.
legendary
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August 08, 2015, 01:44:24 PM
TPTB and friends, does this idea ("Examples of Knowledge Age Efforts") merit a separate thread?

Yes it is an example of the Knowledge Age, but it is not that unique. If you want a zillion examples go visit kickstarter.com

If you created for your bearing business a new automobile marketing plan, scheme, or any intellectual added value, that is Knowledge Age work.

And the reason more people aren't doing it is because you shouldn't be doing mixing that way and he is setting himself up for massive criminal liability. And how many times have I told you that server-based mixers are probably controlled by the NSA.

Decentralized mixing. Why are you not using Monero  ??

OROBTC if you are lazy with technology as rpietila is, you both will suffer.


Ahh, kickstarter.com.  I'll go have a look to satisfy my curiosity re Knowledge Age examples.  I also realized that almost ANY BTC companies would be examples as well.

There's a small amount of Knowledge Age already in our bearing business.  Many new bearings come out all the time, and the designs are not publicized.  We (and our competitors) have to dig for that information.  One thing we have going for us is that some of our Korean bearings are made by few (or no) others in the world.  "Special pieces"  

We also try and incrementally buy smarter through time.  I do my part by studying the sales database I created and work on.  A lot of value can be derived from a database showing sales through time of some 800 different SKUs, all with their own characteristics (as well as our customers' characteristics).  I keep track of all of this with a "star-shaped" multidimensional database, perfectly ready for OLAP* and other analytical tools.

*Too bad IBM wants $2000 for their Cognos tool, and roughly the same for MSFT's SQL Server (which includes a nice OLAP tool as well).

15 - 18 years ago I was using free or cheap advanced analytical software that was easy to use.  Now it is NOT cheap nor easy to use..., or BOTH.  Sad

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Monero is not well accepted yet, not ready for prime time.  It's also HARDER with fewer easy-to-use tools.

Ease of use is a bigger factor, TPTB, than you might think.  
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August 08, 2015, 01:28:43 PM
Deflation...  Although the Western economies could go in any direction, a "deflation then hyperinflation" set of scenarios is very possible.

No. Only deflation is possible. Gold does not go up due to monetary inflation. It goes up as a hedge against government expropriation.

I have heard that in much of Asia that is not true...

That is very much true amongst many of the Chinese. Not with the filipinos.

However same can be said of some Mexicans.
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August 08, 2015, 01:21:49 PM
TPTB and friends, does this idea ("Examples of Knowledge Age Efforts") merit a separate thread?

Yes it is an example of the Knowledge Age, but it is not that unique. If you want a zillion examples go visit kickstarter.com

If you created for your bearing business a new automobile marketing plan, scheme, or any intellectual added value, that is Knowledge Age work.

And the reason more people aren't doing it is because you shouldn't be doing mixing that way and he is setting himself up for massive criminal liability. And how many times have I told you that server-based mixers are probably controlled by the NSA.

Decentralized mixing. Why are you not using Monero  ??

OROBTC if you are lazy with technology as rpietila is, you both will suffer.
legendary
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August 08, 2015, 01:03:37 PM
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From the Economic Devastation thread, but relevant here IMO:

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This just occurred to me, right after I had logged-out, but I thought I would toss this in here as an example of the Knowledge Age...

The company (guy, whatever) I have in my signature is about as good an example I can think of for a Knowledge Age effort!  

The site is very automated (very "knowledge-y"), at least one of his mixing options is via TOR, it is a future-oriented service...

bitmixer.io could be (is?) perhaps a one-man effort, whether it is just one or a small group really makes no difference re as an example of a Knowledge Age enterprise.

I'd be interested in comments on whether bitmixer is a good example of a Knowledge Age effort, let's leave aside any comments on mixing effectiveness or similar (eg, whether TOR is really anonymous).


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Arguably hard, but not impossible of course, to shut down THIS site is a good example of a programmer/entrepreneur who has a quiet (and apparently lucrative) business that only a low percentage of people in the world could achieve on his (their) own...

TPTB and friends, does this idea ("Examples of Knowledge Age Efforts") merit a separate thread?
legendary
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August 08, 2015, 12:23:07 PM
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It will be of great interest to me how Tesla and the Gigafactory all work out.  I try to pay attention to materials like lithium and the rare earths (as well as all the investment metals).

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Deflation...  Although the Western economies could go in any direction, a "deflation then hyperinflation" set of scenarios is very possible.  Deflation to wring out PM-holders (and weak companies & overstretched consumers), then POW!, Uncle Janet Yellen whacks us with garbage dollars after.

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Because, be definition, so few of us can become "Alphas" in the Knowledge Age, the rest of us can best become prepared the best we can.  Preparation includes knowledge, a readiness to explore "Plan B" countries (which it appears that ONLY TPTB has actually DONE), PMs, harder-core stuff like guns & ammo & water filtration (etc.), and my favorite: DIVERSIFICATION.

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Re nooks and crannies, yes, the Andes (particularly in Peru) has LOTS of them.  With relatively few people in the tropical & sub-tropical zones (most of the Andeans like the cooler weather higher-up).  There is, as TPTB has pointed out at least twice, rather high violence for a rural area.

Costa Rica is just fine if you have $$$.  Panama, not as nice IMO (but with an economy that might be stronger in the long run), requires LESS MONEY to reside.

Paraguay and Uruguay, Argentina & Chile...  EIGHT WEEKS, bitchez.  A visit for at least eight weeks to see if the place (8 weeks PER candidate country), to eat the food, visit lawyers, investigate opportunities, etc., etc.

If you show up in any LatAm country knowing Spanish and being relatively self-sufficient, you will be accepted (assuming good behavior, LOL).  That is a big plus.  I have heard that in much of Asia that is not true...
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August 08, 2015, 08:26:00 AM
http://www.talkmarkets.com/content/us-markets/warren-buffett-and-elon-musk-to-spark-a-lithium-boom?post=70047

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And lithium found in salty water, or brines, is by far the most cost effective. According to Dr. Robinson, "brine is the best way to produce lithium because it's so cheap, as nature has done all the hard work in rendering the lithium into a form that is easy to extract from the ground. All you have to do is drill a few wells and pump the liquid brine."

Furthermore, there are only a few places in the world where lithium is present at high enough concentrations in these salty brines and the most famous is in the Atacama Desert, in the "Lithium Triangle" of Bolivia, Argentina and Chile. Supply here is threatened by corruption and politics, making it difficult to capitalize on burgeoning demand.

When Tesla's gigafactory comes online, everyone will be looking for cost-effective lithium sources closer to home, which brings us full circle to the state of Nevada, where Pure Energy Minerals has the only potential future brine resource in North America.
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August 08, 2015, 08:08:31 AM
No hyperinflation is coming. It will be all crushing deflation where you can't generate any commerce and everything collapses into totalitarianism. The governments are not weak, thus they don't need to hyperinflate away the debts. Instead they will press austerity and expropriate down to the bone marrow.

And yes if you don't grow you own or enter the anonymous Knowledge Age commerce, you may be lacking food and dependent on slop-kitchens at the FEMA camps.

Ah cool! You have sons. Fun.
legendary
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August 08, 2015, 04:24:54 AM
Lmao I am glad I do not have daughters
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August 08, 2015, 04:22:58 AM
How long do you think we have until the west begins falling into the abyss? it is sad that I will have to leave friends behind, and force a new lifestyle upon my family.

 No one else is interested in saving themselves, and it's frustrasting me.

When the hyperinflation comes, if it comes, your daughter may become a whore, and your son may become a robber. You want to say to your children: You don't have to do that, come home, we have food. But you can't, because you don't, the money is gone. Hyperinflation destroys the fabric of society.
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August 08, 2015, 02:14:33 AM
How long do you think we have until the west begins falling into the abyss? it is sad that I will have to leave friends behind, and force a new lifestyle upon my family.

 No one else is interested in saving themselves, and it's frustrasting me.

You'll probably make lots of new friends where ever you go, and your old friends might be later begging you to offer them a safe haven. Offer some pretty (or ugly, lol) girls poolside, cold beer, barbie, and live feed of Ozzie rules ball and you can probably entice them over, lol.

I urge you to rent so can go back home for < 6 months visit every year. This will also allow you to reflect on your decision and check your sanity with reality. Remember the goal is 2nd citizenship, not yet time for complete renunciation (and hopefully we won't get there).

I'd say 2017 will be the pivotal year. Next year it will be apparent the contagion is underway, but it won't engulf the USA mainstreet fully until well into 2017. And according to MA's model, the USA wallstreet economy will hang on until 2017.9. So I'd say 2018 is the SHTF year. Hot war, pandemic, global economic collapse.

Again I would think Philippines to lower expenses until Spring 2016 (and attain 2nd citizenships for your wife and kids) to buy crypto at the low as a first step or prefer if you can work somewhere interim that exceeds your expenses so you can build up the amount you can invest on the low.

At some point you have to get the 2nd citizenship started for yourself. Paraguay needs $5000 deposit in their banking system and you have to show up physically. Then 3 year wait and towards the end of the 3 years you need to live and do business in Paraguay. If you attain an extra $135,000 from investments that outperform and/or an alliance with a wealthier person, Dominica is a 12-week citizenship option with no need to learn a new language and prove commitment to live and do business there.

Again I said if you can convince me you are very skilled mechanically and electrically and if I become wealthy again, we might we be able to help each other on these goals. If not, I wish you good luck on your plans.

P.S. I found the hardest leap was the initial one to leave the USA in 1990 when I was 25 years old. As time went on, it got easier to feel I wasn't missing anything. Sometimes I miss New Orleans, but the world is a diverse place and a lot of things to get me interested and busy.
legendary
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August 08, 2015, 02:01:00 AM
How long do you think we have until the west begins falling into the abyss? it is sad that I will have to leave friends behind, and force a new lifestyle upon my family.

 No one else is interested in saving themselves, and it's frustrasting me.
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August 08, 2015, 01:25:23 AM

If readers don't think this shit is real, they are delusional. That crap was already starting when I was last in Texas in 2006.

Also ranchers lose their ranch when they shoot illegals on their property. They need a valid self-defense argument to shoot to deter the destruction to their fences and theft of property.

The writing is on the wall. I'd rather be in a place where the government is not strong. The USA, Australia (and other G7 or 5 Eyes), China, and Russia are very strong governments. Note Chile spends a large % of GDP on military and police. Argentina not. Might get overrun in world war as did the weak Philippines in WW2. I'll take my chances on that with mountains and nooks and crannies, and first priority is to remove the BIG RED WHITE & BLUE DICK from my asshole.

Some Japanese soldier was hiding in the mountains of the island of Mindoro (not Mindanao) for decades after the war. I don't know if you could do that as easily now. The Philippines' jungles have been denuded and so many roads and population density is much higher. But the Amazon jungle or the Andes mountains, you have a chance...if ever comes to that...

...in that case your best friend should be an Aboriginal.


Edit: I bet many readers (especially those from Asia and Europe) will view the video at the linked article I quoted, and ask "what is the big deal  Huh". They are accustomed to complying with authority for the smooth operation and peace of the society. Especially most females will really think we are nutcases for rejecting social authority.

That is because these people ignore the repeating history of mankind which is this ALWAYS devolves to megadeath. I challenge anyone to find an example where submission to authority in a society did not eventually involve megadeath for that society. Over at esr.ibiblio.org, the user "Winter" claimed Holland was the exception with hundreds of years without megadeath. Ahem. Wasn't Anne Frank hiding in Amsterdam, Holland her family when was taken away to the death camps.
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August 07, 2015, 10:42:26 PM
Edit: what I am trying to accomplish is that we can get economies-of-scale on fungible money and knowledge internet on the internet (the large community) while adding decentralization (end-to-end principle) and anonymity, so that we have the economies-of-scale of large community while also enabling our local community to resist the subjugation of degrees-of-freedom by the power vacuum of the collective. I believe if we can achieve this, we will have a glorious Knowledge Age. Whether I am correct or not, it is this ideal that is pushing me to work so hard at age 50. Hope some people will join if I can get something tangible completed.
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August 07, 2015, 03:14:50 AM
I'm down with this, my kids do not have a bright future here.

Sorry adding bits as I move around, my kids have inherited their filipino citizenship as mum was one when they were born, my wife will need to re-acquire hers, since she has since become an Ozzie.
 
I will need to check this out so I am more certain.

It is a very easy process. Direct her to the DFA office when she arrives in the Philippines. In Davao, it is at the 3rd floor of the SM mall in Ecoland (not the SM Premiere in Lanang on other side of town from me). All three of them will be dual citizens and your wife can get Philippine passports for them. Very inexpensive.

I did this along with my ex and kids. So I have done it.
legendary
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August 07, 2015, 01:54:22 AM
I'm down with this, my kids do not have a bright future here.

Sorry adding bits as I move around, my kids have inherited their filipino citizenship as mum was one when they were born, my wife will need to re-acquire hers, since she has since become an Ozzie.
 
I will need to check this out so I am more certain.
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August 06, 2015, 11:48:48 PM
But only 250.000(sic!) adresses are active ... https://blockchain.info/charts/n-unique-addresses. In january the number dropped to 116.000.

I don't understand why upthread comments say that you are only quoting data for one wallet. The above data is for all addresses on the block chain. Duh!    Roll Eyes

I think it is very likely that Bitcoin adoption has stalled.

And it is very likely that active use is much less than a million users.

There are likely a million+ users who hold balances though.

I wouldn't worry about it. We are heading into a low price below $100 for Spring 2016, because the $usd is coming so strong due to the contagion in Europe, China, and developing markets. Commodities are declining.

Next year we will bottom and see the interest in private assets grow again, but it will be driven more by anti-government sentiment (due to expropriation in the EU) and thus anonymous coins will receive much more interest than Bitcoin.

Hi klee. Thanks for that.

however, i was hoping for a chart resembling this, with gold charted in.


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August 06, 2015, 10:30:55 PM
I will likely be able to scrape up 50K worth of cash, and I do have valuable mechanical and electrical knowledge...

Then you are valuable to me.

Also no need to get your wife and kids Uruguay citizenship. And you don't want to make your kids citizens of Uruguay because there is mandatory military service for every young adult citizen of any S.A. nation.

Instead, your wife and kids can easily apply for dual citizenship of the Philippines. Thus they will have 2nd passports and thus can resist any dictates of the Australian government. As for yourself (not your wife and kids), shoot for the Dominica citizenship for $100,000 (or roughly $135,000 complete with all attorney's fees). Then you don't need to hassle with Spanish language tests nor the 3 year wait. Or if you prefer, then Paraguay since you don't need to reside there for the 3 year wait (you could do both, residency in Paraguay to get the clock ticking and shoot for Dominica). Peru is only 2 years but you must reside there 6 months a year. I don't particularly want to reside in Peru, but I might check it out.

Since your wife and kids have Aussie passports, then you can get them into an S.A. country. Later if ever they had to renounce their Aussie citizenships (hopefully not!), you could get them a visa, because they'd already have established themselves in S.A..

If you can amass even $25,000 to invest by Spring 2016, then you should be able to reach that $135,000 goal by 2017 or 2018. If you can align yourself with wealthier expats to continue to earn, perhaps you can reach that goal sooner, maybe by late 2016 or early 2017. Hold your cash in $usd not Aussie dollars if you can.

If you have valuable mechanical and electrical knowledge, then I suspect you can easily earn money on these S.A. ranches, because importing parts is so expensive so it is much better to repair them. I also have some mechanical and electrical knowledge, but I can't do everything (I'm already overloaded with TODO list and I will need to stop commenting here on this forum). Also if you can be a mechanic for vehicles that is another plus (I used to do it, but haven't since my 20s). I am more valuable as a programmer.

You can imagine we will need our own backup solar or micro hydopower system for backup electricity. Wells and water pumps. Etc.. All sorts of stuff that requires maintenance. Even the weapons need to be cleaned and tested periodically.

Also if I can attain wealth again (which is likely), I would be very much willing to pay a salary for a male who would be a maintenance man and security manager for any ranch I might purchase or rent. And very likely we would find other wealthy expats who want to join in our ranch and help share costs. If we live on a ranch in Argentina for example, we do not need to become residents and subjected to their tax system. We can stay there as tourists indefinitely even while owning and developing a ranch if we so choose. And if we have 2nd passports, it is very unlikely our 5 Eyes country can get us sent home. We have several last resort options at that point:

  • renounce the 5 Eyes citizenship if ever it becomes necessary (hopefully not)
  • renounce both the 5 Eyes and the Dominica citizenship and fall under the protection of the UN Convention for Stateless Persons (host country can not kick us out)
  • give birth to a child on S.A. soil, thus the child becomes an immediate citizen and the parents are also so protected against deportation and can apply for immediate citizenship

With a few like minded expats and our families, we can easily set up a paradise in one of these S.A. countries or even a Pacific island and ride out the coming bad years and properly defend it. I get along well with the sarcasm and joking of the Aussies. I have an Australian friend I've known from my Manila travails in the early 1990s.

For perimeter early warning system we can set up a fenced corridor to keep out animals and run laser sensors which detect any intruder crossing the path. Thus we can easily be warned and respond to an intruder. Then we need only a few guys armed with AR-15 to deter any intruders. Better also is a tower with a sniper's rifle, scope, and night vision, and warning shots to the lower extremities using rubber bullets. Perhaps also an escape vehicle that has been bullet proofed. These days you bullet proof with a light weight material:

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/10/01/bulletproof-chevrolet-camaro-provides-performance-and-protection/

http://www.texasarmoring.com/armored_vehicle_bulletproofing_materials.html

trollercoaster, you simply need to become friends with wealthy who own a ranch. Perhaps you could even do that now in Australia and avoid needing to create a business. And/or you can come (or send your wife and kids to) Philippines to work on their dual citizenship paperwork.

As for education for your kids, sounds like we have a community need if we have several expats and their families. Maybe we need our own small school and then we can dictate the education. Would be great if one of the wives is an elementary school teacher or has the ability to be one. She can teach the other females to help out. By the time they reach middle school or high school, we will have found suitable options.

What you think?
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