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August 06, 2015, 05:19:49 PM
Yes

Did your national government defy imperial law? (If so, did you file criminal charges against it under imperial law?)
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August 06, 2015, 05:12:02 PM
To start such a business in OZ is unprofitable due to the heavy handed fisting I would recieve from the Tax man, and constantly rising living expenses (tied to taxation) making it a constant struggle to get ahead here.

If "taxation" (trollercoaster) wasn't raising your living expenses, insatiable profit margins would be.
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August 06, 2015, 05:04:11 PM
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TPTB and trollercoaster

I do NOT know the rules re Peru or any of the others.  But, I can offer advice on practicality of living in LatAm:

First, it is important to be able to speak Spanish!  You would be very isolated without it.

Second, anyone interested in a country should visit it for a minimum of EIGHT WEEKS!  Eat the food.  Meet the lawyers.  Etc.

I would *think* that you should either HAVE money (say $50,000 or more in CA$H, etc.) OR have a really good skill-set that they would need.

Let me know (PM or email) if either of you plan a trip to Peru, and we can arrange to have you picked up at the airport.

I will likely be able to scrape up 50K worth of cash, and I do have valuable mechanical and electrical knowledge which I am able to use to start my own business with minimal investment, I can only see this as being a step forward already.
To start such a business in OZ is unprofitable due to the heavy handed fisting I would recieve from the Tax man, and constantly rising living expenses (tied to taxation) making it a constant struggle to get ahead here.

In other words I am trapped in the NWO system here.
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August 06, 2015, 04:35:25 PM
Let me know (PM or email) if either of you plan a trip to Peru, and we can arrange to have you picked up at the airport.

Thank you for the offer of hospitality. Reciprocally if you come to Davao.
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August 06, 2015, 04:32:27 PM
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TPTB and trollercoaster

I do NOT know the rules re Peru or any of the others.  But, I can offer advice on practicality of living in LatAm:

First, it is important to be able to speak Spanish!  You would be very isolated without it.

Second, anyone interested in a country should visit it for a minimum of EIGHT WEEKS!  Eat the food.  Meet the lawyers.  Etc.

I would *think* that you should either HAVE money (say $50,000 or more in CA$H, etc.) OR have a really good skill-set that they would need.

Let me know (PM or email) if either of you plan a trip to Peru, and we can arrange to have you picked up at the airport.
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August 06, 2015, 04:26:29 PM
I mean secondary citizenship, but there doesn't appear to be any streamlined way to acquire it unless you're a millionaire.


If you should reside within the (dark) grey circle below (note: an acute viewing angle may help you discern dark grey on black), merely claim Great Empire of Earth as your "country" of residence: its law might insulate you against that of your national government.


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August 06, 2015, 04:23:46 PM
I think a secondary residency is now my highest priority, they may start making it harder to get if they begin to detect a mass exodus from the west.

Residency is not the same as citizenship. Australia still controls you to some extent while you have only 1 passport. I suppose residency could give you some ability to resist for example if Australia canceled your passport, depending where that residency was, e.g. Brazil or Chile might protect you more than Philippines.

Or did you mean 2nd citizenship?

Please see my post in the MA thread about difference in cultures.

I am trying to figure this out for my own goals as well.

I mean secondary citizenship, but there doesn't appear to be any streamlined way to acquire it unless you're a millionaire.

South America seems to be the easiest, but I expect it will take a while even after fulfilling the financial requirements.

It is easy for me to find work wherever I  go, perhaps a South American chicken hut is what I will have to aim for by 2016.

I am looking at Uruguay, there seems to be less fucking around with translated documents??

Dominica is $235,000 for you and your family. Other than that, your options are to go for residency and comply with all the requirements for language and actual commitment to the live in the country you chose. Since you are married, I agree Uruguay may be best. You'd probably find more work there, as it is wealthier than Paraguay. And it has visa-free entry to Australia, so you could still return home even after you had renounced your Aussie citizenship.

But Uruguay is also expensive to live in. I don't know all the details of your situation, but you might be wise to lower your expenses for a while in Philippines first and let the global economy collapse in 2016 so then Uruguay will get less expensive (but jobs will also reduce).

I'd favor Paraguay because I wouldn't be including a wife, so Uruguay would be a 5 year wait for citizenship a single man (versus 3 years for a married couple). Note it is only 2 years in Peru. But I hope I could afford Dominica or St. Kitts as that would be more efficient. I'll work hard and try to make it happen for myself.

If you have $10,000 to invest in gold and crypto in Spring 2016, then within a year or so, you should be able to get at least double or triple on that. Hopefully you'll also be lucky enough to buy a disruptive crypto that perhaps has some better gains. So maybe you could get lucky and a small investment might turn into enough funds to do your relocation to Uruguay if you decide to go that route.

My point is try to maximize the $$ you will have available to invest in Spring 2016. That is going to be your big chance to become a millionaire, if you have sufficient funds to invest in private assets on the coming Spring low.

And then make sure you are outside of Australia for more than 6 months in the tax year when you will take gains on your investments, so you won't be liable for taxes to Australia. If you are in Philippines or Uruguay, they won't take you on that. Uruguay gives new residents a 5 year tax holiday. And Philippines never taxes foreigners who are residing in the Philippines.

You could try contacting these guys. They are affiliated with Doug Casey:

http://tdvpassports.com/
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August 06, 2015, 04:13:57 PM
I think a secondary residency is now my highest priority, they may start making it harder to get if they begin to detect a mass exodus from the west.

Residency is not the same as citizenship. Australia still controls you to some extent while you have only 1 passport. I suppose residency could give you some ability to resist for example if Australia canceled your passport, depending where that residency was, e.g. Brazil or Chile might protect you more than Philippines.

Or did you mean 2nd citizenship?

Please see my post in the MA thread about difference in cultures.

I am trying to figure this out for my own goals as well.

I mean secondary citizenship, but there doesn't appear to be any streamlined way to acquire it unless you're a millionaire.

South America seems to be the easiest, but I expect it will take a while even after fulfilling the financial requirements.

It is easy for me to find work wherever I  go, perhaps a South American chicken hut is what I will have to aim for by 2016.

I am looking at Uruguay, there seems to be less fucking around with translated documents??
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August 06, 2015, 03:50:17 PM
In light of my prior post, I want to point out that all nations of the world (except the USA) do not tax citizens on world wide income when they reside outside their country of citizenship:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_taxation

And this was a primary reason many have wanted to drop their USA citizenship. Why pay taxes for services you are not receiving, e.g. not using the roads of the USA, etc.. There is an exclusion though up to roughly $100,000 in income per year:

http://www.liferemotely.com/work-while-traveling/managing-a-business/65-paying-taxes-in-your-home-country-when-you-arent-living-there

I believe the EU will end up copying the USA model, because the EU is so bankrupt (the southern contagion will eventually spread north), the youth must flee abroad to find opportunity, and those with wealth can reside outside their home country (e.g. UK citizens residing in Spain or vice versa) to avoid taxation. So I believe eventually at least the EU will consolidate taxation across Europe and probably also in conjunction with UK and USA also (and perhaps Australia and NZ as well), so that Europeons can't escape taxation. That seems inevitable to me.

Besides the island economic citizenship programs which do not require residency nor any language tests (and ignoring the very expensive programs in the USA and EU), the quickest residency based citizenship opportunities are Peru (2 years), Paraguay (3 years), and Argentina (2 - 3 years). Uruguay is also 3 years if you are married. I'm ignoring the other countries in S.A. as being far too socialist or other problems. Argentine citizenship isn't desirable because it has a 1.25% annual global wealth tax. Peru requires 6 months physical presence every year of the 2 years waiting period. Paraguay doesn't require physical presence but will need to show ties and commitment to the country. All require passing Spanish language tests. Argentina and Paraguay have the best economic indicators (see the PDF I linked in prior post).

http://tdvpassports.com/

As I've thought more about my situation, the USA's $100,000 a year income tax exemption for foreign residents is probably sufficient for me. Thus my main goal for a 2nd passport would just to be sure I could always travel no matter what the restrictions appeared on my USA passport (either from the USA or from other countries). Also the option to renounce the USA citizenship if ever I had a great need such as for waiting to declare capital gains or income > $100,000 per annum. Thus given Dominica citizenship can be renounced, it appears to be the ideal choice if I have sufficient funds ($100,000).

If I do anything in S.A., it would be as a tourist and not resident so I don't have to pay taxes on my foreign income to them. Chile however does apparently offer that 3 year tax holiday for permanent residents.

Philippines does not tax foreign income for foreigner residents. So feel free to avail of the Philippine's retirement visa. But there is really no need for that expense any more since you can get nearly the same rights using 6 month tourist visa extensions staying up to 3 years before need to exit for a day.
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August 06, 2015, 03:15:48 PM
TBTB, what is your opinion about Canada as an exit possibility ?

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P.S. Estonia and Russia appear to have lax firearm rules, if those cultures and environments are your cup of tea. Rpietila's castle is in Estonia, so you could hook up with him.

Wow, thank you TBTB. That is an excellent posting, the last part made me chuckle a bit. Unfortunately I am stuck in Europe for the next few years, and it won't be easy to find work for my profession everywhere in the world. (Aerospace engineering with specialisation in rocket science)
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August 06, 2015, 12:30:07 PM
Assuming impoverished an island nation might want to leech off the rich foreigners it issued citizenship to, might want to forget Dominica as a potential paid citizenship option:

http://jubileedebt.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/The-new-debt-trap_07.15.pdf#page=13

(Australia is at risk of private-sector debt crisis)

St. Kitts & Nevis (another paid citizenship option with no tax on worldwide income) has worse indicators than Dominica:

http://jubileedebt.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/The-new-debt-trap_07.15.pdf#page=35

https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/country-data/saint-kitts-and-nevis-gdp-country-report

http://www.indexmundi.com/saint_kitts_and_nevis/current_account_balance.html

Ditto Antigua & Barbuda:

http://www.indexmundi.com/antigua_and_barbuda/current_account_balance.html

https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/country-data/antigua-and-barbuda-gdp-country-report

http://premieroffshore.com/10-best-second-passports-and-citizenship-by-investment-programs/

(and also note how these island nations' GDP imploded in the 2008 - 2010 contagion)

Edit: renunciation is possible:

http://www.dominica.gov.dm/services/how-do-i-renounce-citizenship-of-the-commonwealth-of-dominica
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August 06, 2015, 10:18:56 AM
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Responding to some items...

1)  My experience with firearms is limited.  Like so many of my interests, few of my family & friends share them.  I have only shot an AR-15 a couple of times, and I have never cleaned one.  Since my mechanical abilities are somewhat low, I bought an AK-47 clone (semi-auto).  I chose it because it's idiot-proof and easy to clean & field-strip.  I really like it, but I ought to look again at the AR-15, there are some real pluses.  My sidearm is the M-92 Beretta (9 mm), in stainless, the piece used by the US Army.  Both the 7.62 * 39 and 9 mm ammo are very abundant and easy to get.

2)  Ever since the flurry of the Bush / Paraguay ranch news, I have been unable to get much confirmed via the 'Net.  I remember (with a little glee, LOL) that many in Argentina were CONCERNED that the Bushes were going to set up shop next door...  Their property was supposed to be adjacent to (or near) a ranch owned by the Moonies.  The attraction, of course, to that part of Paraguay is the Guarani Aquifer, the world's largest.  Water, bitchez.

3)  Many people hate the cold (TPTB, OROBTC), many others hate the heat.  Climate is part of any Plan B calculations.

4)  As gringos, any consideration of living in rural areas ought to include the security / violence that TPTB has mentioned before.  Casual rural violence is a real problem.

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Plan B for us is Peru.  But, we have a business there, and kind in-laws.  We would be OK there.

Costa Rica is nice, I have been there several times (we even have a small bearing customer there).  C.R. is nice, but expensive.  Also totally under Uncle Sam's thumb (so don't be an IRS fugitive there).

But, were it not for my ties to Peru, I would be looking mostly at a remote-USA scenario.  South or Central Texas.  Wyoming/Montana (cold there).  Fewer people, ideally on a small ranch with sufficient water to eke by.  Buy some solar panels, maybe some cattle...
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August 06, 2015, 10:04:49 AM
I think a secondary residency is now my highest priority, they may start making it harder to get if they begin to detect a mass exodus from the west.

Residency is not the same as citizenship. Australia still controls you to some extent while you have only 1 passport. I suppose residency could give you some ability to resist for example if Australia canceled your passport, depending where that residency was, e.g. Brazil or Chile might protect you more than Philippines.

Or did you mean 2nd citizenship?

Please see my post in the MA thread about difference in cultures.

I am trying to figure this out for my own goals as well.
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August 06, 2015, 06:58:10 AM
trollercoaster, if you want a really cheap place to stay, I have an extra rental I am not using that has 2 very small bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, a nice kitchen, living room, washing machine, sofas, a car park and a large lot up in the hills in a subdivision near Mintal. It is not as modern as the one in the photo, but I only pay P5000 ($111) monthly. I had rented it to put all my junk in it (and if my kids came back to Philippines but they are not coming), but I am planning to give it up in 1.5 more months. You can get a PLDT landline and internet installed there. I inquired.

You can take this from me if you want. No deposit required!

I have another low-quality "chicken shack" rental house up near that one which I am keeping (P3500 monthly) because I have a Globe landline and internet there which I need (faster than PLDT and doesn't block Bitmessage ports).

That is a very cheap way to get started. You are right next to the park with a basketball court and big grass field to play with your kids.

The neighbor there has some noisy roosters. But you can try to convince him to remove them with a little bit of cash perhaps. Nice climate up there, cooler and breezier. You'd need to buy  an aircon. I have electric fans there. There are always taxis available there. Adds about 15 minutes to your travel to downtown.

It is not the nicest house, but it is decent enough so you could take your time looking around at other choices.

If anyone else wants this house before I give it up, let me know. It is not easy to find this sort of deal. I found it by driving around the various subdivisions. You wouldn't find it advertised on the internet.

If I take off to S.A. next year and you stay in Philippines, you could get a great deal on my Isuzu Crosswind diesel SUV. Dark tint, strong aircon and motor. Interior is still like new. Exterior is a bit dinged up (I don't care what my car looks like as long as it works well and is comfortable inside).
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August 06, 2015, 06:41:12 AM
TBTB, what is your opinion about Canada as an exit possibility ?

My experience and knowledge of Canada is limited. My mother lives in Bellingham, Washingston State and I was there in the mid-1990s and did take one trip over the Vancouver. There has been mass migration of whites from California and else where up to the Washington and recently Canada stopped its economic citizenship program for Chinese because there were so many who availed of it. Vancouver is probably highly Chinese by now.

From what I've read, seems that Canadian government is hands off to large extent and the people are more self-reliant outside the cities. We can still say that perhaps about some rural communities in the USA as well, particularly some in West Texas I visited in 2002 and again 2006 (the last time I was in North America).

Personally I am not interested at all in Canada because I vehemently hate cold weather. I can jog in the blistering tropical heat at noon in the Philippines. I grew up in New Orleans in the Deep South. I've lived most of the past 25 years near the equator here in Mindanao.

But if snow and ice are your cup of tea (and especially with a Little Ice Age coming starting 2030 according to scientists, but cooling to worsen 2020+), then it seems to me that Canada offers frontiers to get off the beaten path should it become necessary. I just can't see myself taking off on horseback or foot in the winter into northern Canada. Brrrr.

In terms of being far from war it is probably okay especially if you head north but it gets colder. Note the proximity to all the nuclear reactors in the USA:

Another thing to look out for is where the nuclear plants are located. Believe me following the 1/r^2 rule, you need to be as far as possible.


That Bataan red dot in the Philippines is for a plant that was never operated. I don't even know if there is any nuclear fuel stored there.

I just read today that Argentina has nuclear plants.

In terms of taxation and State cooperation with the G20 enslavement plans, I would expect Canada to be compliant because the populations are concentrated in the cities and are very socialist.

In my way of thinking about priorities to be prepared against potential mad max or F.U.B.A.R. outcomes, the main impact of that implication is that you are holding a 5 Eyes passport and thus your option to travel internationally might be more curtailed. Also your options to do cross border travel clandestinely is limited to crossing the USA border. For me, I am looking a S.A. because there are many borders to cross on horseback and even a wide open Pacific ocean with a huge coastline running from the equator down to Antarctica with habitable islands out there. You've got that a little bit in West Canada, but the brutal cold and Bering Sea and Alaska is not Canada.

If you are good with survival techniques in the snow, then maybe that is for you.

Taxes are I assume high in Canada to pay for all the social welfare. I didn't check. No tax holiday for new residents I assume (e.g. you have massive capital gains in Bitcoin in 2017 and want to cash some out officially to justify your lifestyle to the authorities).

I believe Canada allows rural residents to carry guns, but I don't know about any restrictions. I am ignorant about guns (had a BB gun as a child). My limited reading recently seems to indicate that the best weapon for combat is an AR-15:

http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2014/11/bugging-out-ar15-vs-lever-action-rifle.html

Perhaps OROBTC can comment since he has apparently more experience with guns.

Canada has restricted them except attitudes seem to be more favorable in Alberta and Saskatchewan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15#Canada

Again we have another example of how much more totalitarian Australia is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15#Australia

Perhaps it is the British influence:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15#United_Kingdom

In Argentina, you can only get a license for an AR-15 with a non-detachable magazine:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation#Argentina

I suppose it might be possible to have a gun with an exchangeable lower and keep a detachable magazine in at all times, and be prepared to swap upon any inspections. That would be illegal of course if you got caught. With a large land area and perimeter warning systems, you could probably insure you can make the swap in time, but then you've got to be sure you can conceal the other lower.

Also it is nearly impossible to a carry permit (outside your ranch) in Argentina unless you are a hired security guard. So if you want security when driving to town, you'd need to hire a professional. But in crisis situations, the police look the other way:

https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=10&f=17&t=670389

I think the above images raise an interesting point-of-view, which is that communities which are accustomed to being self-reliant are more able to deal with extreme situations than communities which have become totally reliant on the government.

So if you are apparently Alberta  and Saskatchewan fit that profile. West Texas and Montana probably fits that profile.

Appears from the Wikipedia page that Chile and nearly all of Asia except the Philippines are very restrictive against gun ownership.

Looking at the following Comparison table:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation#Comparison

it is interesting to note how the USA stands out as the gun owners freedom capital of the world.

So where do you think TPTB will have to apply the most devasting destruction in order to achieve their new world order hegemony?

Majority of the ideological, constitutional gun fanatics are concentrated in the USA. Sure lots of drug guns in Latin America, but those are essentially a boost for TPTB by sending the passive population into the protection of the government.

MA's models predict a breakup of the USA into regions.

Will TPTB back down and declare defeat against the ideological, constitutional gun fanatics are concentrated in the USA? They are smart enough not to fight the strength of the militias. I speculated upthread that they will use divide-and-conquer strategies. Would they go as far as limited nuclear war or allowing nuclear plants to fail in order to make life hell for the militias?

I have just have this gut feeling that the USA is a focal point and some not nice things need to happen there. Why did the Bush family buy a bugout ranch in Paraguay?

I could end up being wrong about the USA, but it is impossible to deny that the strongest constitutional fight remains in the USA. The counter argument is TPTB will go after the lowest hanging fruit first and thus not engage the militias. They did back off at Bundy Ranch for the time being, although Bundy was defeated since then on relevant NV legislation.

If I could be assured of being able to travel internationally to and from the USA, I might be interested to go back there and explore the coming battle. But at this point in my life, I want to be able to travel and experience new adventures and cultures. I am concerned that the USA citizenship is going to end up a trap where you can't easily get out after the SHTF 2018ish. And I am concerned that TPTB are going to dump a shit load of infrastructure and environmental degradation on the USA to try to break it. They won't want to destroy their industrial assets, rather just make life a slow grinding prison-planet hell for those who resist their rule.

P.S. Estonia and Russia appear to have lax firearm rules, if those cultures and environments are your cup of tea. Rpietila's castle is in Estonia, so you could hook up with him.
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August 06, 2015, 06:24:12 AM
Thanks TPTB, I am going to start selling off my bulky assets here, which are costly to store and move, and decide from there whether it's more efficient for us to  relocate temporarily to the Philippines or to plan my next move from here.

I think a secondary residency is now my highest priority, they may start making it harder to get if they begin to detect a mass exodus from the west.

If you are considering medical treatment in OZ a medical treatment visa for you and your partner would probably be alot easier to secure than a tourist visa, and no need to lodge a bond.

https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/602-

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August 06, 2015, 05:12:11 AM
trollercoaster, here are some houses I viewed in May/June as examples of something in the $222 - $400 range.

Note everything gets rented out here in Davao starting about September through January because filipinos love to entertain relatives for the Christmas holidays. So if you are coming to Philippines, make your contact with these landlords asap. If you select a house in my subdivision, I can spare the time to go inspect it for you, so you could feel safe to reserve it without being here. I am astute as to the issues in the Philippines.

This first one is unfurnished for $222 and is up on the highlands just before Mintal, so it is cooler and breezier up there with a nice view over Mt. Apo. For the time being, you don't have any neighbors to bother you and it is 1 block from the swimming pool and clubhouse. You can get Globe wireless 4G fixed position dish at this location for reasonably good internet but not as reliable and low latency as wired internet that I have at my location. Newly constructed subdivision:

http://olx.ph/item/house-for-rent-bambu-estate-3-bedrooms-2-crs-newly-built-ID4VZBp.html

This is similar to my house and in the same subdivision:

http://olx.ph/item/big-unfurnished-house-for-rent-in-solariega-high-end-subd-talomo-puan-ID6OF54.html

I believe this is the one I viewed where the neighbor is a Korean, which is a nice house but the street is not as wide as in my location yet this is the same subdivision as where I am:

http://olx.ph/item/semi-furnished-house-for-rent-in-exclusive-subd-in-puan-ID6NG6q.html

This is one is closer to downtown and to the large SM mall in Ecoland:

http://olx.ph/item/modern-style-house-and-lot-for-rent-ID6QYRb.html

Another house similar to mine but asking much higher price (note it already has an internet connection, you can surely negotiate with them for a lower price):

http://olx.ph/item/furnished-house-for-rent-in-exclusive-subd-with-internet-and-cable-tv-ID6PP6A.html

If you want to spend $2222 monthly for the view overlooking the city:

http://olx.ph/item/matina-overlooking-house-fully-furnished-ID6MMcP.html

I believe this might be one of those mansions near my house. So this is $3333 monthly. I bet this can be negotiated down to $2500 by offering to pay quarterly:

http://olx.ph/item/house-with-swimming-pool-for-rent-ID6OBLE.html

Do NOT rent in this area (you soon realize why if you waste your time traveling past Buhangin to this area):

http://olx.ph/item/house-in-gated-subdivision-ID4YDrD.html
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August 06, 2015, 03:31:45 AM
TBTB, what is your opinion about Canada as an exit possibility ?
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August 06, 2015, 12:04:20 AM
trollercoaster, if you and your wife are not working in Australia, or the amount you are earning is just enough to cover high cost of renting there, and assuming your kids are not yet in elementary school, then perhaps you might want to consider coming to live in the Philippines for the next 6 months to a year in order to lower your expenses.

I rent in a gated subdivision with very high class homes, nice sidewalks, and not too many people roaming about, a 4 bedroom house with 2 bathrooms, fully furnished with airconditioning and a decent kitchen for P15,000 monthly, i.e. $333 per month. My monthly electric bill is roughly $50. My monthly internet bill at this location is $40. Taxis are readily available at the subdivision entrance and roughly $3 - $5 each direction to go any where in city. You'd be bored if you didn't have something to do with yourself on the internet or computer. Your wife might revert to filipino habits. But you could probably tolerate it for up to year, as long as you can have an agreement that no relatives can live in your house (try to live on a different island from the relatives). Note Cebu and other cities are more expensive than Davao. And I shopped around for best price. You might pay $400 for what I have. There are other houses available in the subdivision where I am.

Thus you can see why it doesn't make financial sense for me to move from the Philippines until I am earning an income again. Even Ecuador is more expensive and I don't have a car there.

Again I would not suggest doing this if your kids are already in school, unless you want to live in Bagiuo and send them to Brent private school. Tuition roughly $4000 - $8000 yearly per child. That is a good school. I had my kids there for one year in 2003-4, and they were doing well. Unfortunately I couldn't maintain the cost along with the higher cost of living there (and family leeches) and my SUV was in Mindanao. Baguio has very cold weather during winter time. Rest of the year it can have torrential rain when typhoons pass near the Philippines. Also it is getting overcrowded. Again western quality education is very difficult to locate in the Philippines. Perhaps Siliman in Dumaguette if you want a provincial environment, but actually it still sucks. I spoke to the principal there trying to find a better place for my kids back in the 2007 - 2009 timeframe. Cebu maybe has reasonable schools but a very urban environment and still too much dose of filipino culture. I'd say Brent or nevermind. St. Paul in Davao is reasonable (unfortunately I discovered it too late and it was only recently built). They have good facilities and a small school approach. But still they will expose your kids to too much filipino culture nonsense. It might be acceptable for one year only if the lower elementary grades such as Kinder and 1st. Tuition roughly $1000 yearly per child. It says college but it is really elementary and high school (you know the Philippines and their lack of precision  Cheesy)



It is located along the Ma-a Riverwalk commercial development:



Again they can give you 6 months extensions now so it can pretty hassle free.

Do not buy a car. When you sell you will lose several $1000s. Or if you do buy, buy the cheapest junk you can tolerate given you don't plan to stay a long time. I bought my SUV new in 2003 and it is still is reasonably good condition.

P.S. Another reason I disfavored Peru, is I read they had a lot of corrupt police and so many checkpoints along the roads in Peru.
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