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legendary
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I really don't care that much, but given a choice, I'd rather contribute my MH/s to a different pool...

Maybe I'll put an ASCII penis in if I ever have enough GH/s solo mine a block...
vip
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Coinbase: 07456c696769757303c04e063f002e2e2e204f2064756c63697320566972676f204d617269612e2 04f72612070726f206e6f6269732c2073616e637461204465692047656e65747269782e00 (ᝣEligiusᝣᝣNᝣ?ᝣ... O dulcis Virgo Maria. Ora pro nobis, sancta Dei Genetrix.ᝣ)
from http://pident.artefact2.com/block/000000000000070f4407e0cf384e05275b7a0f31876baf3636b84cae341f4dc7

Coinbase: 07456c6967697573030ea2002d0057652061646f726520546865652c204f204368726973742c206 16e6420776520626c65737320546865653b00 (ᝣEligiusᝣᝣᝣᝣ-ᝣWe adore Thee, O Christ, and we bless Thee;ᝣ)
http://pident.artefact2.com/block/00000000000002fa5ae8d386077c6279c977f14a948b36d93d180e3cc939dad9

infact http://pident.artefact2.com/block any recent Eligius block

"I don't like generalisations in general (Wink) but some posts here are really nothing better than some (out of context) statements of Luke-Jr"
 this is why i have only quoted irc from #bitcoin-dev on irc.freenone.net they are publically logged and anyone is welcome to read the WHOLE conversation Smiley There have been plenty of conversations in other chans but i will not introduce that as it cannot be publicly verified.

bcforum
"Putting aside the content discussion, I propose that all messages in the block chain are graffiti and we should (as a community)  work to clean it up. If someone were to embed child pornography in the block chain, and a week later publish instructions on how to access it we would ALL be guilty of possession."  

bcforum has hit the nail on the head.

Personally i believe freedom of religion is anyones choice, unfortunate that it was prayers that caused this to start, really it could have been anything put in the blockheader by any pool owner that caused this discussion.

Thanks again to those that take time to think AND are concerned for Bitcoins future Smiley

I wonder peoples reactions would have been different if i wasnt a pool owner? I refrain from posting on a lot of threads because i KNOW it will be accused of self intertest. I thought coinbase and transaction spam was an issue the whole community needed to be aware of. I propably chose the wrong topic for this thread, but at the time just wanted to knw if luke-jr has informed miners on Eligius, so that those of other faiths could know what was happening on the blocks they were contributing to and have a choice to participate or not.
vip
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For the record, I don't endorse block chain spam. I'm also not interested in participating in (this) Graet's troll/FUD thread.

lol
legendary
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For the record, I don't endorse block chain spam. I'm also not interested in participating in (this) Graet's troll/FUD thread.
sr. member
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Why are there still no ASCII penises in the block chain?!

This is a great idea.  Someone do it.
hero member
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I'm against this too. What's the point in cluttering up the entire bitcoin network and people's HDDs with narrow minded garbage like this. Keep your religious beliefs to yourselves and it won't cause any trouble, but this is just pushing it in people's faces and obviously causing problems (very pointless and unnecessary problems at that).
member
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I find it a bit laughable to embed prayers in english, but well... thanks for the strings anyways and the advice how to get them.

He can just hope that god can decode ASCII… maybe if he spends more bitcoins on the corresponding transactions he will listen  Roll Eyes
legendary
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I find it a bit laughable to embed prayers in english, but well... thanks for the strings anyways and the advice how to get them.

Still it's of interest to me if this can impact security in any way. Otherwise it would just make the block chain a bit more compressible, no matter what is actually written in these strings.
Why are there still no ASCII penises in the block chain?!
sr. member
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Can we have links to a few blocks of Eligius to see this ourselves?

Output of "strings -n 20 .bitcoin/blk0001.dat":

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     1980-2011     
Len was our friend.
A brilliant mind,   
a kind soul, and   
a devious schemer; 
husband to Meredith
brother to Calvin, 
son to Jim and     
Dana Hartshorn,     
coauthor and       
cofounder and       
Shmoo and so much   
more.  We dedicate 
this silly hack to 
Len, who would have
found it absolutely
hilarious.         
--Dan Kaminsky,     
Travis Goodspeed   
P.S.  My apologies,
BitCoin people.  He
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Eligius/Benedictus Deus. Benedictum Nomen Sanctum eius.
Eligius/Benedictus Deus. Benedictum Nomen Sanctum eius.
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Benedictus Iesus Christus, verus Deus et verus homo.
Benedictum Nomen Iesu.
   I LIKE TURTLES   
Benedictum Cor eius sacratissimum.
Benedictus Sanguis eius pretiosissimus.
Benedictus Iesus in sanctissimo altaris Sacramento.
Benedictus Sanctus Spiritus, Paraclitus.
C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
Benedictus Sanctus Spiritus, Paraclitus.
Benedicta excelsa Mater Dei, Maria sanctissima.
Benedicta sancta eius et immaculata Conceptio.
Benedicta sancta eius et immaculata Conceptio.
Benedicta eius gloriosa Assumptio.
Benedictum nomen Mariae, Virginis et Matris.
Benedictum nomen Mariae, Virginis et Matris.
Benedictus sanctus Ioseph, eius castissimus Sponsus.
Benedictus Deus in Angelis suis, et in Sanctis suis. Amen.
In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti. Amen.
O my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee and I detest all my sins...
O my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee and I detest all my sins...
Eye'm the strongest!
...because of Thy just punishments, but most of all because they offend Thee, ...
...my God, who art all good and deserving of all my love.
I firmly resolve, with the help of Thy grace, to sin no more...
I firmly resolve, with the help of Thy grace, to sin no more...
...and avoid the near occasions of sin. Amen.
O my God! I firmly believe that Thou art one God in three Divine persons, ...
O my God! I firmly believe that Thou art one God in three Divine persons, ...
...Father, Son, and Holy Ghost; I believe that Thy Divine Son became man, ...
...and died for our sins, and that he will come to, judge the living and the dead.
I believe these and all the truths which the Holy Catholic Church teaches, ...
...because Thou hast revealed them, who canst neither deceive nor be deceived.
O my God! relying on Thy infinite goodness and promises, ...
...I hope to obtain pardon of my sins, the help of Thy grace, ...
...and life everlasting, through the merits of Jesus Christ, my Lord and Redeemer.
...and life everlasting, through the merits of Jesus Christ, my Lord and Redeemer.
O my God! I love Thee above all things, with my whole heart and soul, ...
...because Thou art all-good and worthy of all love.
...because Thou art all-good and worthy of all love.
Yukkuri Shiteitte ne
I love my neighbor as myself for the love of Thee.
I forgive all who have injured me, and ask pardon of all whom I have injured.
I forgive all who have injured me, and ask pardon of all whom I have injured.
I forgive all who have injured me, and ask pardon of all whom I have injured.
O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of Hell, ...
...lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of Thy mercy.
I confess to Almighty God, to blessed Mary ever Virgin, ...
... to blessed Michael the Archangel, to blessed John the Baptist, ...
... to the holy Apostles Peter and Paul, and to all the Saints, ...
... that I have sinned exceedingly, in thought, word, and deed, ...
... through my fault, through my fault, through my most grievous fault.
Therefore I beseech blessed Mary ever Virgin, blessed Michael the Archangel, ...
... blessed John the Baptist, the holy Apostles Peter and Paul, ...
... and all the Saints to pray to the Lord our God for me. Amen.
St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle; be our safeguard against ...
St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle; be our safeguard against ...
... the wickedness and snares of the Devil. May God rebuke him, ...
... we humbly pray, and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, ...
... we humbly pray, and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, ...
... we humbly pray, and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, ...
... we humbly pray, and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, ...
... by the power of God, cast into Hell, Satan and all the other evil spirits, ...
... who wander throughout the world, seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.
Angel of God, my guardian dear, to whom His love commits me here, ...
... ever this night be at my side, to light and guard, to rule and guide. Amen.
Ave Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tecum. Benedicta tu in mulieribus, ...
... et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Iesus. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ...
... et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Iesus. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ...
... et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Iesus. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ...
... ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc, et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.
Salve, Regina, mater misericordiae: vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra, salve.
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae. Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes ...
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae. Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes ...
... in hac lacrimarum valle. Eia, ergo, advocata nostra, illos tuos ...
... misericordes oculos ad nos converte. Et Iesum, benedictum fructum ...
... ventris tui, nobis post hoc exsilium ostende. O clemens, O pia, ...
... O dulcis Virgo Maria. Ora pro nobis, sancta Dei Genetrix.
kLhLUKE-JR IS A PEDOPHILE! Oh, and god isn't real, sucka. Stop polluting the blockchain with your nonsense.
Ut digni efficiamur promissionibus Christi. Amen.
Pater noster, qui es in caelis, sanctificetur Nomen tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum.
Pater noster, qui es in caelis, sanctificetur Nomen tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum.
Fiat voluntas tua, sicut in caelo et in terra. Panem nostrum quotidianum ...
... da nobis hodie, et dimitte nobis debita nostra sicut et nos dimittimus ...
... debitoribus nostris. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem, sed libera nos a malo.
Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!
Sanae is a good girl
We adore Thee, O Christ, and we bless Thee;
We adore Thee, O Christ, and we bless Thee;
because by Thy holy Cross Thou hast redeemed the world.
May the Holy Trinity be blessed.


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I don't like generalisations in general (Wink) but some posts here are really nothing better than some (out of context) statements of Luke-Jr.

I provided context for what I quoted.  What's being attributed to Luke here isn't anything that he would disagree with.  Go ahead and talk to him on IRC, you'll find out soon enough.
legendary
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Back to the more real issue:
Can we have links to a few blocks of Eligius to see this ourselves?
Also: Could this impact security of the blockchain somehow? If it is supposed to be random data there (whereever these prayers are) but this data isn't as random as it could be, this might not be "a good thing (TM)".

I don't care for the personal beliefs of someone else whom I never even met. He might also just be trolling all of you (there is for example a whole german forum + dozens (!) of websites set up specifically just to make fun of religious "hardliners") and even if he isn't - just embed some lines of the Koran or whatever... there are worse options for stuff that could be embedded in the block chain, and it wouldn't even be that hard to do anonymously!

I don't like generalisations in general (Wink) but some posts here are really nothing better than some (out of context) statements of Luke-Jr. Maybe take this into consideration: http://www.notquitewrong.com/rosscottinc/2011/08/03/so-youre-mad-about-something-on-the-internet/
legendary
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PHS 50% PoS - Stop mining start minting
I was gonna input on this thread, then remembered the world's real problems like all the banks in the world collapsing, USD & Euro being printed to below toilet paper, and the likely collapse of all fiat civilization...er what was I saying  Roll Eyes
full member
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where's the popcorn when you need it Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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luke-jr is doing witchcraft with the blockchain.
We should burn him 'cause that's the catholic way of doing dealing with witchs lol
vip
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Good to see some people agree with and understand my point Smiley
Sad to se some ppl dont care about btc's future, just thier own earnings - only to be expected tho Wink
thanks for the discussion ppl Smiley


From the responses i have had in irc i dont think luke-jr even read my post before he left his post :S
legendary
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Graet: Catholics do not believe in freedom of religion.

wow

Every religion demands absolute belief that their dogma is the correct one, and punishes doubt. Allowing doubt opens the gateway to thoughtful analysis and logic. Analysis such as "if I was born in a different country with different parents and a different color skin, would I believe just as deeply in the religion I was taught there since my birth?"
newbie
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Graet: Catholics do not believe in freedom of religion.

wow


Jack,

If that's a real wallet, I'll donate, just for your creativity...

Is it real?
full member
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Its random data if anything the prayers make the block chain more compressible.

Putting aside the content discussion, I propose that all messages in the block chain are graffiti and we should (as a community)  work to clean it up. If someone were to embed child pornography in the block chain, and a week later publish instructions on how to access it we would ALL be guilty of possession.
hero member
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Its random data if anything the prayers make the block chain more compressible.
legendary
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If it bothers you than don't use his pool. For fuck sake its named st eligius after the patron saint of goldsmiths. I am catholic as well and as far as I know other religions are recognized. I went to catholic school for 12 years. This thread is retarded, hey guys I'm going to pray for all of you, and if you don't like it well fuck you, your going to heaven anyways. Tongue

No dude, this thread isn't retarded at all.

Some time ago, someone started a thread asking why weren't we allowed to include messages in transactions sent to bitcoin addresses(you can when you send to the IP) and everyone started saying it was a waste of resources, because the blockchain would get bigger and bigger because of said messages.

Now comes a religious fanatic moron and starts including prayers in the blockchain. What a waste of resources is that?

I could care less for his beliefs, but c'mmon... If he can clutter the blockchain with his crappy prayers I want to be able to message people to which i send payments to and be able to receive messages from people who send me payments.
hero member
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If it bothers you than don't use his pool. For fuck sake its named st eligius after the patron saint of goldsmiths. I am catholic as well and as far as I know other religions are recognized. I went to catholic school for 12 years. This thread is retarded, hey guys I'm going to pray for all of you, and if you don't like it well fuck you, your going to heaven anyways. Tongue
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