Eligius miners aware of prayers in block headers? - page 6.

Jack of Diamonds

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Quote from: enquirer on August 19, 2011, 10:56:24 PM

Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar !

All infidels will go to hell

Say you have a hindu and a muslim in the same restaurant.
The hindu is eating roast bacon and the muslim is eating a beef steak.

Who is the most enraged one? Who wins in a fight?
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Also, say you have two kids in the same kindergarden.
In comes Michael Jackson and and a catholic priest.

Who gets to decide.. Ok let's stop here

enquirer

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Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar !

All infidels will go to hell

Clipse

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Luke seems more like the Reborn Christian type than catholic type Wink

John (John K.)

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Away on an extended break

Quote from: Chris Acheson on August 19, 2011, 09:01:02 AM

luke-jr : (23:59) MSSmallBiz: heretics

I personally do believe in the freedom of religion but this is kind of over the limit. Like where religious fanatics start to bomb/harm people when they do not share the same faith.

edit: IMO this would start to be a header war if bitcoin gets bigger

teukon

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Let religious types worry about religious content, legal types worry about illegal content, and copyright types worry about infringing content. It is possible but you would be doing well indeed to construct a sequence of 0's and 1's that would phase me.

Although I would personally make a special effort to avoid people like luke-jr, there are far worse people in the world.

3phase

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Third score

Well, I've been mining on Eligius for the best PPS price around and never bothered about the founder's religious beliefs.

What Luke-Jr or anybody believes about other religions does not change my religious views, or others' for that sake. I'm free to think as I wish, he's free too. Anybody claiming that I am a heretic because I don't believe in [fill in your God's version] does not make me one.

BTW, now I realize why I have a higher number of stales on Eligius with my Christian Orthodox GPU's. It's the "Filioque" addition to the Creed that's making me waste a few more KH/s instead of calculating solutions. Maybe mining software developers should take this into account.

WHOAAAH, my miners were just disconnected from Eligius as I was writing this !!!! Holy shit, this thing is giving me the creeps !!!

Connected again after 1 min.

Reuef

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Most religions believes that it is the one true faith, that is the way it is. I believe mine is, and no, I will not tell you what it is. I do not believe in pushing my religious views on others, religion is a private thing and in my opinion is that it should remain as such.

Does it really matter if he or anyone else inserts something in his headers? Only if he is inserting illegal content, which I would have a legal obligation* to report, otherwise it does not affect me. It is as if I am told that someone is sprinkling magic pixie dust on his servers to make them have good luck, it affects me in no way, but if it makes him feel better, more power to him.

These are all my opinions, and opinions are like assholes every has got one.

*I term illegal content as either Child Porn or plans to harm others.

gentakin

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Quote from: Chris Acheson on August 19, 2011, 09:01:02 AM

luke-jr : (23:59) MSSmallBiz: heretics

Wow, that's where I'd probably stop mining at eligius if I had my miner there. WTF. Huh

Raoul Duke

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It matters to me that my HDD's that hold the blockchain are getting even more cluttered with stupid religious shit. Like transactions aren't enough...

Chris Acheson

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Quote from: gentakin on August 19, 2011, 08:52:46 AM

It *does* bother me what Luke-Jr said about freedom of religion, but maybe I'm just interpreting that wrong.

No, it should pretty much be taken at face value. Here's some more:

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luke-jr   :   (23:58)       MSSmallBiz: there is no such thing as a non-Catholic Christian by definition
Yeti   :   (23:58)       luke-jr: close to a billion people disagree with you on that
luke-jr   :   (23:59)       Yeti: irrelevant
luke-jr   :   (23:59)       truth is not a democracy either
MSSmallBiz   :   (23:59)       luke-jr: then what do you call Baptist, just Baptist? A Episcopalian is ?
luke-jr   :   (23:59)       MSSmallBiz: heretics

Vladimir

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This all is none of my business, but I do not like when all this religious crap is being pushed into my face and luke-jr's consistent arrogance and complete disregard to anyone but himself does not inspire any sympathy.

gentakin

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Quote from: jackjack on August 19, 2011, 08:39:00 AM

Looks like I'm going to be bashed but I agree with Graet
Seriously what's the need? The only thing it can do is making other catholic flavour/muslim/jews/aliens say "hey there are christian prayers in the blockchain wtf I can't use that"

If they do, then they don't believe in freedom of religion as well. I couldn't care less if they stayed away from bitcoin. They can put their own prayers into the blockchain if they feel like it.

I personally don't have a problem with people believing in god or even putting prayers into places where I won't ever find them, even if I'd help doing so by mining at eligius. It *does* bother me what Luke-Jr said about freedom of religion, but maybe I'm just interpreting that wrong.

It's a fact that Luke-Jr's contributions, innovations and Eligius are a win for the bitcoin community. If I'm getting it right that Luke is against letting people believe in whatever they feel like, however, I'm disappointed.

strictlyfocused

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Quote from: SteveFL on August 19, 2011, 07:35:37 AM

I mine for Eligius. I get BTC for submitting shares. Is there any reason to put any more thought or effort into such a simplistic process?

I could care less what may or may not be in the block headers. I would say if prayers bother someone they need to work on fixing their own state of mind rather than try an encourage others to agree that this is even a real issue.

well said

jackjack

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May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage

Looks like I'm going to be bashed but I agree with Graet
Seriously what's the need? The only thing it can do is making other catholic flavour/muslim/jews/aliens say "hey there are christian prayers in the blockchain wtf I can't use that"

Chris Acheson

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The prayers are a stupid gimmick that don't affect much. They do kind of mess up Dan Kaminsky's cool hack, which is sad but probably inevitable.

That said, I'm surprised that people aren't more concerned about Luke-jr in general. The guy is a shady christian fascist that shouldn't be trusted to run a hot dog stand, let alone run a semi-popular mining pool and contribute code to the Bitcoin client.

IRC logs where he expounds on his politics make for some fun reading:

http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/logs/2011/02/03/12
http://eligius.searchonirc.com/?d=2011-07-05-23

It's kind of odd that the overwhelmingly libertarian Bitcoin community puts up with him at all. I guess the overall level of crazy around here is high enough that he just blends in.

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Quote from: Graet on August 19, 2011, 07:34:10 AM

Stop polluting the blockchain with your nonsense

Stop polluting the forums with your nonsense. Nobody cares.

Quit being such an anal whiner and get busy doing stuff that actually matters to the community, you know, just like luke-jr.

bitclown

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I mine for Eligius as well and prayers have as much meaning to me as random data. If this keeps luke-jr working on Bitcoin projects I'm all for it. No-one can enforce political correctness in the block chain anyway.

SteveFL

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I mine for Eligius. I get BTC for submitting shares. Is there any reason to put any more thought or effort into such a simplistic process?

I could care less what may or may not be in the block headers. I would say if prayers bother someone they need to work on fixing their own state of mind rather than try an encourage others to agree that this is even a real issue.

Graet

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1. Well members of other religions mining or Eligius might like to be aware.<- are they? Everyone seems to be avoiding answering that...makes me believe they have not been informed.
2. The txn in response wasnt good.
3. If it is deliberately put there it is not "random" - even if the data being replaced means nothing.
4. I care about bitcoin and it's future, Bitcoin is under close scrutiny from corporations, lawyers and other members of the general public - does anyone honestly believe that
"LUKE-JR IS A PEDOPHILE! Oh, and god isn't real, sucka. Stop polluting the blockchain with your nonsense." and similar will not be noticed? Do you think this sort of thing will encourage uptake of Bitcoin or be a barrier to its adoption by many people?

If Bitcoin wants to be real and play with the big boys it needs to address this issue.

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Quote from: Graet on August 19, 2011, 07:01:18 AM

Well after asking the same question in #bitcoin-dev (logged irc chan) #bitcoin and this forum luke-jr has not given an answer to the simple (yes or no) question "and you make your non catholic miners aware of this?"
If at any stage he had answered this I would have been happy and stopped.

He seems to be trying to divert attention with an accustaion that this is about raising my pool numbers. LOL

It's random data, it could randomly be that. Why care?

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