Topic: Eredivisie 23/24 - discussion thread - page 7. (Read 15944 times)

Yeah not only Ajax and Ajax fans were super dissapointing with this performance i think also bettors, and we are in the gambling section, how many bets detroy this Ajax?

I think the number if we can have one is gonna be huge, because we have the people who support Ajax whatever they go, and also the people who thinks, well this bad run is over lets put some money on them because they are gonna start to win...... and well we all know how it ended.

Ajax at this point have been a shadow of themselves and since ETH left the club, they have not been able to perform at the top level where they do. Well now this kind of performance grew very badly this season especially in the league as you see them always struggling and they even got eliminated in the conference league.

 Their problem can be tracked down to the poor shape of the team due to them selling out on their key players like ANthony, Martinez, De Jong, De Ligt etc. when a club sells her major players without having a proper plan for replacement brings the club to doom and that’s where Ajax are now this season both in the league qnd in Europe. Also departure of key persons in the team’s management is one big one that also affected the team performance and yes they can track back.

 The issue will be will they be able to have the patience while they track back?I think the Board should now try to be able to balance getting financial sustainability and the general club’s performance because while selling out they should also make room to be able to get some major signings. Ajax board need to sit down and get the perfect way out of this challenge then they can get the team back to the main strata.

Ajax this season has become a team that is indeed unreliable in competing for trophies, this season they have been eliminated in the Conference League by Aston Villa, Ajax poor performance this season has made them also slumped in the league, the number of main players who have left in recent seasons has certainly made Ajax performance continue to decline and this season it seems that it will be difficult for us to see Ajax can again dominate the Eredivisie like he previous seasons, at this time it seems impossible for us to see if Ajax can return to play in the Champions League next season after they are far behind the Champions League zone, and even to catch FC Twente in the Champions League qualifiers seems difficult because the difference in points that are very far and also the remaining 3 match.


At present, Ajax opportunity is only to stay in the European qualification zone, and but of course it will be difficult for them to get Europa League tickets if they do not immediately improve their performance in the rest of the season, reportedly at this time Ajax has begun to approach several coaches including Ten Hag to face competition next season, but I think Ajax current slump is not the coach's fault, but we can say it is the impact of greedy Ajax management who continue to sell their star players when a big offer came to their table during this time.

The fact is nothing make the Ajax team feels motivated this season, and that destroy the whole team, only the Europa League was some to play but they were out and they dont have any other thing to push on them.

ITs feel really bad for such a big team being in this scenario. And worst for some players who know next year they are not gonna play in big european tournaments.

We are having 58 points currently for the AZ Alkmaar and 49 for the Ajax with in last 10 games we are having 22 points for the AZ Alkmaar and 14 for the Ajax which is giving all how things gone for the Ajax because they were able to overtake them, but their inconsistency gives them huge setbacks, and they fail to achieve their best due to poor performance and lack of confidence but still we have to praise Ajax because they are having chance to end their worst season at the 5th spot which is still good achievement for them.

I feel like that we are having good chance for the Ajax to improve their performance and quality in coming season and having their best which is not easy but still things can take change which are part of the play hopefully we will have good investment in quality players, and they will be able to achieve which they deserve in this league.

PSV have showed a lot of improvement this season and you can see that in the way they perform in the league and off the league too whilst they were in Europe. This team are really meriting whatever they will be winning this season as they have been able to show a strong fighting spirit which has brought them to where they are. ⁠They will soon be crowned league winners because of the number of points they have been able to accumulate, this shows a strong resilience. Whilst gathering points they never failed to make a statement with the large number of goals they pull in and that shows a fierce attack.

 ⁠They have been able to successfully build on their attack and make it one fierce one for others in the league to compete against because they have been able to score over 19 goals in their past 3 matches. This is a big testament that their attack is one strong one and should be considered as one of Europe’s finest.

 The team have a nice strategy of approaching matches and I would say this strategy is real working for them and they should consolidate on it whilst they head to the new season. The board shouldn’t also fail in trying to acquire some great players that will still help to boost the club’s success.

No one having any doubt about Ajax having terrible season and things were worst for them from the start of the season even one stage we have talked about them can they survive, or we are going to watch their historical downfall, but good thing happen they fight back and now having good chance for staying at the fifth spot with going for the Europa League qualification which is also good but still fans needs to be forgotten about this what happen to them in this season.

In the coming season, how things will be work it's not easy to predict about we are having top teams are going to dominate for another season and things will be not easy for them to have chance for staying into top three, but they needed to be started with the new strategy and new look which improve their confidence level and give them success which is trademark of this legendary clubs.

The difference between Ajax and Alkmaar was just big enough they would literally need more than a game to be able to get to meet Alkmaar, winning at least three games and Alkmaar loosing the three in a row aswell will be the only reason they will be able to comfortably get to win Alkmaar or stay ahead of Alkmaar in the table but then they are lucky they are able to finish at the fifth position after been able to improve because their performance this season was actually such that i taught they were actually not going to get to this point on the table but they have been able to gk against all odds.

Next season they will probably get to improve much better to being the ajax that was known across the eredivisie league .

PSV is having a good campaign this season, even last season they did very well and finished in second place and this season they are very close to becoming champions and in these last games PSV has been a team with a very aggressive attack coming scoring lots of goals. For example, PSV's performance in the last 3 games has a scenario in which they scored a lot of goals:

Heerenveen 0 - 8 PSV Eindhoven

It was simply a very humiliating result for Heerenveen who conceded 8 goals and failed to score a single goal. It even looked like PSV were playing against a team from the relegation zone or the second division

PSV 6 - 0 Vitesse

in this game and psv scored 6 goals and didn't concede any goals and they were playing against the worst team in the league, we could think that this result was due to the fact that psv was playing against the worst team in the league, but we saw that psv can do better than that even playing against teams that are far from the relegation zone

PSV 5 - 1 AZ

Even playing against a team that is in position 4, PSV's attack was still unstoppable, reaching the point of scoring 5 goals against a top 4 team.

The next game will be against an opponent who lost in just 1 game in the last 5 games:



A victory in the PSV game becomes champion. I wonder:

how many goals will PSV score? 


unfortunately Ajax will have to accept the fact that they are left out of the top 4. I hope that next season they improve, because the last 2 seasons were a huge disaster

I want to make some conclussions about Ajax season but is a nonsense, the only good thing for them right now is when the season over, and close this bad episode of his history and start to look ahead and write new pages in a new book.

Because nothing can be saved from this season , all was bad.

The only good thing for them right now is the last 3 games are against 3 weak teams so they can seal this 5 position without so much issues.

Ajax lost the chance to catch up with AZ Alkmaar in the remaining weeks.In this match, Bergwijn's red card, which left his team 10 men in the early minutes, prevented Ajax from getting a possible win here. With Akpom's goal in the last minutes, Ajax at least managed to draw at home and increased their points to 49.It is important for Excelsior to get points in such matches to stay in the league.There is a 1 point difference between them and their rival and the team in 16th place will play out.

With 3 games left, of course it is difficult for Ajax to be able to eliminate Alkmaar from the position of the Europa League zone next season, currently the two teams are 9 points apart so Alkmaar only needs one game with a draw to make Ajax's chances of playing in the Europa League next season buried, Ajax's performance this season is of course quite bad after last season they could compete in the Europa League zone,  The number of players who left last season made Ajax currently really unable to compete and even quite surprising if this season actually had to get out of the top 4 rankings.

Ajax this season is late for hot so they did find it difficult to improve their position when the season is almost over and I think Ajax's habit of continuing to sell their mainstay players so far is the cause of their slump, I think it is very difficult to see Alkmaar will slip up in their remaining three games of the season let alone we can see if only FC Twente is their most difficult opponent later,  while Fc Ultrecht and Go Ahead Eagles may not be difficult opponents for Alkmaar to get 3 points or at least 1 point in that the match.

Just 1 point and Alkmaar will lock fourth place. I think Ajax has no chance of playing in the European league next season. It would be impossible if you said Alkmaar would lose all their games going forward and Ajax would miraculously win all of them. I think Ajax has tried to do its best. They had a lot of bad results at the start of the season but in the middle of the season they managed to improve their performance and were able to catch up to 5th place in the standings. If they continue to be consistent after the middle of the season I think it is not impossible for Ajax to qualify for the Champions League.

Ajax with another draw and a rather contemplative performance, now they have to be careful not to slip down to sixth place.

The first three places have already been decided and there will be no more changes, and it looks like Ajax won't be able to catch up on fourth place either.

And the match ended with PSV's big win 8-0. On the other hand, Feyenoord also managed to beat Go Ahead Eagles. PSV will almost certainly lock the title. As you said, the next match against Sparta Rotterdam will determine the title lock. PSV will definitely win the Eredivise title this season. But of course it would be very nice if we could confirm the title earlier. Sparta Rotterdam is not a strong team. They are one level above Heerenveen. I think the people of Eindhoven can celebrate PSV's title next week.

Ajax 2 - 2 Excelsior

I confess that I expected Ajax to be able to come out of this game with a victory, because their opponent is Excelsior. In the last 5 games they didn't do well, they had a sequence of 3 defeats, but then they had a victory, but despite having a victory, I wasn't convinced that they could beat Ajax who in the last 5 games had an acceptable performance. When Ajax scored a goal, I immediately thought I was sure that Ajax would win the game. I didn't watch the game, I was just following the results, but I was surprised to see the red card for the Ajax player, as I wasn't watching the game so it was difficult to understand the reasons that led the Ajax player to commit such a serious foul that led the referee to give a red card.

but now I could see the highlights of the game:



What the Ajax player did was very unnecessary, he could very well have limited himself to running after the ball and let another Ajax player along with the Ajax goalkeeper go and stop the Excelsio player, at least that way he wouldn't have had the penalty that really hurt Ajax who were unable to come out of this game with victory, now the risk of Ajax not playing in any European competition next season is very high, because there are only 3 games left until the end of the league in the case of Ajax

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Heerenveen - PSV Eindhoven

This is a game in which if PSV wins and Feyenoord loses in the game they will play against Go Ahead Eagles, then PSV will become champions. but if both top teams win then if PSV wins in the next game they will become champions, regardless of the result of Feyenoord's next game. It has been a good campaign that PSV has been having in recent years, they were in position 2 in 3 consecutive seasons if memory serves me correctly, and this season today or in the next game they could become champions. For this game, they will be playing against an opponent who in the last 5 games only beat in 1 game. they had 2 draws and 2 defeats, which is why in my opinion PSV would win that game

Their decline in performance raises many questions, I mean how can a team as big as Ajax have such a sharp decline. Compare this with Barcelona or Borussia Dortmund, which experienced a decline in performance in the last few seasons, they're not as bad as Ajax. Ajax current condition is the same as Chelsea, they have experienced a decline in performance for 2 seasons and are no longer a team to be feared in the PL.

IMO, it's not Ajax that should be appreciated, but rather AZ Alkmaar & Twente who give a new color to the Eredivisie, BTW aren't you surprised to see Vitesse at the bottom of the Eredivisie standings?

And here we go, another poor game made by Ajax rescuing a point in the lasts minutes and only because Excelsior is a little team who plays defensive because they have fear. And again and coming back to my last post, they allowed 2 goals! incredible, i dont know how they can defend so bad. They need to rebuild a whole new team for next season.

They conceded too much when away, 37 goals from 15 away games.
And only Excelsior 40 goals and Vitesse 42 goals can beat that record hehe, even Waalwijk only conceded 28 goals.
Ajax will have to replace all its players for next season, there is no hope with the current players.

I was checking some statistics about Ajax, basic ones, like the goals scored/allowed, they have in this moment a +7, but the super bad number comes from the allowed goals.

They allowed 56 GOALS!!! So nearby to two goals per game, and if you compared this number with other teams of the league ALMERE City has less goals alowed than Ajax, or even Waaljik who is fighting for relegation.