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January 14, 2024, 04:04:35 PM
Ajax is now  much more better than they were earlier and I think it's cutting across all tier of their players be it the first and the later, they are all have good performance recently and it's indeed helping them get much more from their performance. A win for me wasn't much of a surprise as I expected such from them and not any less.
Don't be surprise if Ajax lose this game today. To me, I haven't seen any good change in their performance. Both team are almost similar in performance. I think both team will have a goal in this match, so I'm expecting o2.5 goal in the match.
I was also expecting some surprises as we are heading for the second half of this season with first game of the new year and after break can bring any shocking result but Ajax done good job and with scoring two goals in first half give them good advantage which they were able to keep until end even GA Eagles also done good job and keep pressure on Ajax for the equalizer, but their defense were sharp and well settled which handle this all now after this match we have end of 17 rounds and Ajax is having 28 points their difference is 11 points from second spotted Feyenoord and 9 points from third spotted Twente which mean they can go through in this half for third spot and having another chance for the Champions League into next season but this all needed full commitment and hard job.

But PSV is playing like a monster right now and they don't stop winning. On average they win every game with three goals difference. It doesn't really look like competition anymore, but I believe that the only title PSV is still playing for is to not lose a single point in the whole season.

I am wondering whether PSV is so much stronger than all the other teams or whether all the other teams are quite a bit weaker than last season. The Champions League will be interesting because it iis hard to tell what their results in the Eredivise mean in the Champions League. It looks impressive, but the Champions League is a different business although I think they have a good chance to beat Borussia Dortmund.
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January 14, 2024, 01:56:15 PM
Ajax is now  much more better than they were earlier and I think it's cutting across all tier of their players be it the first and the later, they are all have good performance recently and it's indeed helping them get much more from their performance. A win for me wasn't much of a surprise as I expected such from them and not any less.
Don't be surprise if Ajax lose this game today. To me, I haven't seen any good change in their performance. Both team are almost similar in performance. I think both team will have a goal in this match, so I'm expecting o2.5 goal in the match.
I was also expecting some surprises as we are heading for the second half of this season with first game of the new year and after break can bring any shocking result but Ajax done good job and with scoring two goals in first half give them good advantage which they were able to keep until end even GA Eagles also done good job and keep pressure on Ajax for the equalizer, but their defense were sharp and well settled which handle this all now after this match we have end of 17 rounds and Ajax is having 28 points their difference is 11 points from second spotted Feyenoord and 9 points from third spotted Twente which mean they can go through in this half for third spot and having another chance for the Champions League into next season but this all needed full commitment and hard job.
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January 14, 2024, 12:53:45 PM
Now they’re at the conference cup and I believe they’ll fight to win that in order to avoid whatever maybe at the end of the tournament the Eredivise league. They’ve to maintain top performance and be consistent in their winning streaks,  they have to continue with that form so as to qualify for the UCL next season.
To be honest, I was surprised by Ajax's defeat. At first I thought because it was a local cup so Ajax only fielded second tier players to play. And they will prepare their main players for the league. But after I saw the match report it turned out that Ajax fielded most of their main squad. This is a worry in my mind about Ajax's chances of gaining a place in the Champions League next season. If Ajax appears inconsistent like this, it will certainly be difficult to get second place at the end of the season
Ajax is now  much more better than they were earlier and I think it's cutting across all tier of their players be it the first and the later, they are all have good performance recently and it's indeed helping them get much more from their performance. A win for me wasn't much of a surprise as I expected such from them and not any less.

Don't be surprise if Ajax lose this game today. To me, I haven't seen any good change in their performance. Both team are almost similar in performance. I think both team will have a goal in this match, so I'm expecting o2.5 goal in the match.

It was a very complicated game for Ajax, despite having great possession of the ball, the opponent was still extremely lucky when it came to scoring goals, first Ajax scored a goal, but then the opponent scored a goal and the game was tied, ajax scored a goal again and the opponent also scored the second goal again and with that the game was tied, I even thought that the game would end in a draw, when ajax scored the third goal I still kept thinking that at any minute the opponent would be able to score the equalizer. Fortunately, Ajax came out of the game with victory, and with this victory, Ajax is 5 points away from reaching AZ. Man, what I see in the table makes me laugh a lot. Until a few months ago Ajax was in the relegation zone but today they are close to position 4 and with a high probability of finishing in position 3 or 4. I must congratulate the Ajax coach who is doing a good job



Twente 2 - 1 AZ

Before this game started, I was very convinced that Twente would win this game, I couldn't see Twente losing, that's because Twente are having a good campaign this season, they have had few defeats, I would say they are consistent, unlike AZ that the last few games have been inconsistent and they came into this game having lost, that's why in my opinion Twente would win that game and that's what happened, it's funny that AZ scored the first goal and very early, I confess that yesterday when I saw that AZ I was ahead, I wasn't worried because I was convinced that Twente could still reverse the result. with this victory, twente remains in third place while AZ remains in position 4 and with the risk of ajax passing them

Feyenoord 2 - 2 NEC

wow, it was a game with a lot of goals, but it was a disappointing game for Feyenoord, who in the 1Half ended with them winning 2 - 0, they are very close to winning the game easily, I even thought that in the 2 half they would be able to score more goals , but I didn't think they would tie the game, in the 2 half NEC did very well as they managed to score 2 goals to tie the game. With this draw it becomes clearer every day that PSV are already champions this season. I honestly don't see any team that can surpass PSV in the table
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January 14, 2024, 11:02:25 AM
Very nice to see finally this tournament reutrning, it was a little bit boring only having 3 tournaments in play like LaLiga Premier League and SerieA, now we restored the Eredivisie Bundesliga and Ligue 1.

A very laborious win for Ajax in this restart.
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January 14, 2024, 09:58:24 AM
To be honest, I was surprised by Ajax's defeat. At first I thought because it was a local cup so Ajax only fielded second tier players to play. And they will prepare their main players for the league. But after I saw the match report it turned out that Ajax fielded most of their main squad. This is a worry in my mind about Ajax's chances of gaining a place in the Champions League next season. If Ajax appears inconsistent like this, it will certainly be difficult to get second place at the end of the season
Ajax have not been at their best performances but they've definitely been winning games and have been consistent to it. Definitely a coach has his own impact in a team, once the head is faulty, there'll always be loopholes. It means a lot for a team to get victorious consecutively in a row and for Ajax, that's caused a gradual improvement regardless not doubting that they still have to put in more work. They've got players no doubt but the squad needs to be better, Ajax is a team better than a narrow win, at the moment though, finding the right player who's top and ready in all areas to give that competitive capacity in both the domestic league and the European leagues will be hard.

 Every team won't want to loose their kept men and every player that's be free are the ones that weren't so solid for the team. It's quite expensive to get for a team a high valued player no doubt and Ajax management may not likely be up to the task and it's going to be unsafe to settle for a less standard player. Their inconsistency is unhealthy and they just have to find a way to stop the wins from occuring through a narrow means. The coach is good at what he does but he has to improve himself and the team too, once all the necessary characteristics needed are in place, then it'll be an easy ride for Ajax.
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January 14, 2024, 05:59:13 AM
Don't be surprise if Ajax lose this game today. To me, I haven't seen any good change in their performance. Both team are almost similar in performance. I think both team will have a goal in this match, so I'm expecting o2.5 goal in the match.

The resume of the season is always tricky and we might see unexpected results.
Ajax Amsterdam were able to maintain positive results in their latest games after their catastrophic start in the relegation zone. Go Ahead Eagles are seventh in the ranking and they missed many points lately with 2 defeats and two draws.
Ajax Amsterdam are better in the past years and used to dominate their rivals and their odds are even better in this match. I expect both teams to score and one goal difference between the two. Obviously it will be quite random this match in the beginning of the year..
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January 14, 2024, 05:38:58 AM
Now they’re at the conference cup and I believe they’ll fight to win that in order to avoid whatever maybe at the end of the tournament the Eredivise league. They’ve to maintain top performance and be consistent in their winning streaks,  they have to continue with that form so as to qualify for the UCL next season.
To be honest, I was surprised by Ajax's defeat. At first I thought because it was a local cup so Ajax only fielded second tier players to play. And they will prepare their main players for the league. But after I saw the match report it turned out that Ajax fielded most of their main squad. This is a worry in my mind about Ajax's chances of gaining a place in the Champions League next season. If Ajax appears inconsistent like this, it will certainly be difficult to get second place at the end of the season
Ajax is now  much more better than they were earlier and I think it's cutting across all tier of their players be it the first and the later, they are all have good performance recently and it's indeed helping them get much more from their performance. A win for me wasn't much of a surprise as I expected such from them and not any less.

Don't be surprise if Ajax lose this game today. To me, I haven't seen any good change in their performance. Both team are almost similar in performance. I think both team will have a goal in this match, so I'm expecting o2.5 goal in the match.
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January 14, 2024, 05:07:22 AM
Now they’re at the conference cup and I believe they’ll fight to win that in order to avoid whatever maybe at the end of the tournament the Eredivise league. They’ve to maintain top performance and be consistent in their winning streaks,  they have to continue with that form so as to qualify for the UCL next season.
To be honest, I was surprised by Ajax's defeat. At first I thought because it was a local cup so Ajax only fielded second tier players to play. And they will prepare their main players for the league. But after I saw the match report it turned out that Ajax fielded most of their main squad. This is a worry in my mind about Ajax's chances of gaining a place in the Champions League next season. If Ajax appears inconsistent like this, it will certainly be difficult to get second place at the end of the season
Ajax is now  much more better than they were earlier and I think it's cutting across all tier of their players be it the first and the later, they are all have good performance recently and it's indeed helping them get much more from their performance. A win for me wasn't much of a surprise as I expected such from them and not any less.
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January 14, 2024, 04:07:31 AM
If Ajax wins against Go Ahead then the difference in points with AZ will only remain 5 points and that means they have a chance to qualify for the European league qualifiers . That means AZ has to lose 2 more times and AJax wins the match so Ajax will overtake AZ with a difference of 1 point. Go Ahead Eagles is not a team to be taken lightly because they often surprise in several situations. Although I'm sure Ajax will win that match.

But AZ's defeat was predicted because their opponent was Twente who was in third place. Will AZ perform badly so that they suffer 2 more defeats and Ajax wins them all? I think we shouldn't underestimate AZ like that.
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January 13, 2024, 03:22:58 PM
Ajax had a lot of departures last year, even the successful coach left Ajax, and then a lot of players, even if Ajax had record revenues, it was not a good decision from a sporting point of view.

For today's matchday, AZ has lost so tomorrow Ajax has the chance to make up points on AZ. As expected PSV is already 2:0 up in the 20th minute, think the game could end 4 or 5 to zero in favour of PSV.
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January 12, 2024, 03:27:02 PM

Every team having good and bad days with currently in this season we are having in Premier League few top ranks clubs are struggling even they spend huge amounts for the improvement but still nothing positive happening, so Ajax was also in bad shape, and they were struggling with now on recovery which is surely good, and they are back in business without losing too much time because here in Eredivisie we have no competitiveness like Premier League and difference of quality is also wide open which is not allowing many teams to improve their squads for the top quality.
Ajax is one of the best club in UEFA with having good history and performance so they are now back and most chances we will have them at the better spot until end of this season as well even for me, they can go through for the top three.
Ajax have not been at their best performances but they've definitely been winning games and have been consistent to it. Definitely a coach has his own impact in a team, once the head is faulty, there'll always be loopholes. It means a lot for a team to get victorious consecutively in a row and for Ajax, that's caused a gradual improvement regardless not doubting that they still have to put in more work. They've got players no doubt but the squad needs to be better, Ajax is a team better than a narrow win, at the moment though, finding the right player who's top and ready in all areas to give that competitive capacity in both the domestic league and the European leagues will be hard.

Every team won't want to loose their kept men and every player that's be free are the ones that weren't so solid for the team. It's quite expensive to get for a team a high valued player no doubt and Ajax management may not likely be up to the task and it's going to be unsafe to settle for a less standard player.Their winning consistency is good but they just have to find a way to stop the wins from occuring through a narrow means. The coach is good at what he does but he has to improve himself and the team too, once all the necessary characteristics needed are in place, then it'll be an easy ride for Ajax.
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January 12, 2024, 01:10:01 PM
Every top team can have a bad season in their local league. The important thing is to find a way to start recovering. For now Ajax look like they have done it. Because there is a huge development in their results. We are only halfway through the season too so Ajax have lots of time to make up for their bad start. It won't be easy to make it to top 3 though.

Because the point gap with Twente is 9 now and there is a team between them in the league table also. Ajax just need to keep up the good work and they will hope for the teams above to lose points as much as possible.  Sad

Ajax would do his best in the Conference League too I guess. They can have a good achievement there if they do because there aren't so many quality teams there.
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January 11, 2024, 04:10:12 PM
Well Ajax didn’t just lose outrightly to a 3rd division team; they were 2 goals down and tried to equalize but only got unlucky in the last minute of play. The defeat from a 3rd division team isn’t new in football; and yes it happens.That doesn’t mean Ajax haven’t improved from the way they started the season. Yes the team is pretty poor no doubt but they’re better compared to how they started the season.

As I said before, it's not unusual. It's just that currently we are talking about Ajax's poor performance in the league and the hope of improving its performance. But the defeat confirmed that Ajax is in very poor form and has no hope of getting to the Champions League next season. People say Twente and Alkmaar will lose to Ajax in the race for the top 4 positions but with this bad result I am sure Ajax will not be able to shift Twente or Alkmaar's position in the League.
Every team having good and bad days with currently in this season we are having in Premier League few top ranks clubs are struggling even they spend huge amounts for the improvement but still nothing positive happening, so Ajax was also in bad shape, and they were struggling with now on recovery which is surely good, and they are back in business without losing too much time because here in Eredivisie we have no competitiveness like Premier League and difference of quality is also wide open which is not allowing many teams to improve their squads for the top quality.
Ajax is one of the best club in UEFA with having good history and performance so they are now back and most chances we will have them at the better spot until end of this season as well even for me, they can go through for the top three.
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January 11, 2024, 08:25:10 AM
Well Ajax didn’t just lose outrightly to a 3rd division team; they were 2 goals down and tried to equalize but only got unlucky in the last minute of play. The defeat from a 3rd division team isn’t new in football; and yes it happens.That doesn’t mean Ajax haven’t improved from the way they started the season. Yes the team is pretty poor no doubt but they’re better compared to how they started the season.

As I said before, it's not unusual. It's just that currently we are talking about Ajax's poor performance in the league and the hope of improving its performance. But the defeat confirmed that Ajax is in very poor form and has no hope of getting to the Champions League next season. People say Twente and Alkmaar will lose to Ajax in the race for the top 4 positions but with this bad result I am sure Ajax will not be able to shift Twente or Alkmaar's position in the League.
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January 10, 2024, 01:20:51 PM
This is different from what is happening to Ajax at the moment, basically Ajax's performance is in a very bad state, so their defeat against a weak team indicates that the Ajax team is really getting worse.
If we talk about defeats by top teams against weak teams in football, it is normal, but basically the Ajax team's performance is very bad and the defeat against a 3rd division team is a benchmark that how bad the Ajax team is at maintaining its consistency even though this team is struggling. in their downturn and I think they have recovered from the downturn they experienced at the start of the season but losing the possibility of winning the title would certainly be a bad thing for the team.
Well Ajax didn’t just lose outrightly to a 3rd division team; they were 2 goals down and tried to equalize but only got unlucky in the last minute of play. The defeat from a 3rd division team isn’t new in football; and yes it happens.That doesn’t mean Ajax haven’t improved from the way they started the season. Yes the team is pretty poor no doubt but they’re better compared to how they started the season.

 Though the team isn’t in real shape yet as champions they’re but I believe they’re getting back their confidence and feet. Well they’re in the UEL and they could really get something off that competition if they try to improve on their play style and even get a rise to their league standing too. Ajax have really impressed everyone this season to get where they're to be honest I didn't expect them to go this far cause of their poor start this season.
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January 10, 2024, 08:37:14 AM
Ajax got defeated by a 3rd division team. Well it sounds crazy though but it’s never the least expected especially as Bayern Munich were also defeated in the German Cup by a 3rd division team.

It's a shame to go out against a team like that, but it's always happened in the cup.

Ajax have important points to play for this weekend against a direct rival for fifth place. If they lose, Ajax will lose touch with fourth place for good, and the gap is already large.
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January 10, 2024, 06:06:45 AM
Ajax got defeated by a 3rd division team. Well it sounds crazy though but it’s never the least expected especially as Bayern Munich were also defeated in the German Cup by a 3rd division team. Ajax is facing rebuilding and being eliminated from this competition at this point is kind of better. This is to enable them focus more on better competitions e.g the UEL and try to come up on the league’s standing.

 The match was full of drama and Ajax no doubt gave in their best but they were quite unlucky. So I feel it shouldn’t be much a big deal, they can forge ahead of this defeat.A victory in that game would had given then a boost in morale towards the chase for the top four in the Eredivisie League but all hope is not lost yet, they should put themselves together and try to do better so as to secure a spot in the UCL.

I don't think it's a big deal if a top team loses to a team in the third division. Many teams are unlucky enough to experience this. As you said with Munich's defeat in the DFB Pokal. But the problem is that people are doubting AJax's performance this season. Then they improve their ranking little by little. But in the midst of all these positive trends, Ajax suddenly lost to a third division team and that made everyone question whether Ajax had really returned to their form or not. That's different from Munich, which is quite strong in the league, so even if they lose to a third division team, people won't mind it.
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There is no doubt this was shocking defeat but still this is not happening first time in soccer history because we have long list of defeats like these in many leagues as big giant teams lost to unknown teams with currently, we all know Ajax is having troubling time, and they are trying to rebuild themselves for the better future in Eredivisie so we can expect results like these from them.

This match was played on 21st December for the KNVB Cup round of 32 once USV Hercules were leading by 2–0, but we have some good drama at the end and Ajax able to score two quick goals but injury time goal from the Grotenbreg give them shocking win odds for the USV Hercules @51 at the start of the match.
Ajax got defeated by a 3rd division team. Well it sounds crazy though but it’s never the least expected especially as Bayern Munich were also defeated in the German Cup by a 3rd division team. Ajax is facing rebuilding and being eliminated from this competition at this point is kind of better. This is to enable them focus more on better competitions e.g the UEL and try to come up on the league’s standing.

 The match was full of drama and Ajax no doubt gave in their best but they were quite unlucky. So I feel it shouldn’t be much a big deal, they can forge ahead of this defeat.A victory in that game would had given then a boost in morale towards the chase for the top four in the Eredivisie League but all hope is not lost yet, they should put themselves together and try to do better so as to secure a spot in the UCL.
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January 05, 2024, 02:11:48 PM
There is no doubt this was shocking defeat but still this is not happening first time in soccer history because we have long list of defeats like these in many leagues as big giant teams lost to unknown teams with currently, we all know Ajax is having troubling time, and they are trying to rebuild themselves for the better future in Eredivisie so we can expect results like these from them..

Your words are correct. We often see big teams losing against teams from amateur leagues. This also often happens in the English league during the FA Cup competition. Big teams such as City, Arsenal or Chelsea have lost to teams in the third caste in domestic competitions. It's just that a defeat like this will still be surprising and will make everyone see what caused the defeat. I feel that currently Ajax is building a better squad and I think at the moment they don't have any targets other than trying not to get relegated.
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January 04, 2024, 12:48:43 PM
USV Hercules are an amateur league team you know so it was really unbelievable that Ajax lost to them.   Sad
It was truly a very surprising result. It wasn't even the final match in the domestic cup. USV Hercules really isn't a team I've ever heard of. I even had difficulty finding their information on the internet. I think this is the most surprising defeat I've had at the start of this year or this season in football. I watched several matches with results that were completely unpredictable but not as surprising as Ajax's defeat to a third division team in their league.
There is no doubt this was shocking defeat but still this is not happening first time in soccer history because we have long list of defeats like these in many leagues as big giant teams lost to unknown teams with currently, we all know Ajax is having troubling time, and they are trying to rebuild themselves for the better future in Eredivisie so we can expect results like these from them.

This match was played on 21st December for the KNVB Cup round of 32 once USV Hercules were leading by 2–0, but we have some good drama at the end and Ajax able to score two quick goals but injury time goal from the Grotenbreg give them shocking win odds for the USV Hercules @51 at the start of the match.
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