Topic: Eredivisie 23/24 - discussion thread - page 21. (Read 16265 times)

As I said before, it's not unusual. It's just that currently we are talking about Ajax's poor performance in the league and the hope of improving its performance. But the defeat confirmed that Ajax is in very poor form and has no hope of getting to the Champions League next season. People say Twente and Alkmaar will lose to Ajax in the race for the top 4 positions but with this bad result I am sure Ajax will not be able to shift Twente or Alkmaar's position in the League.

Well Ajax didn’t just lose outrightly to a 3rd division team; they were 2 goals down and tried to equalize but only got unlucky in the last minute of play. The defeat from a 3rd division team isn’t new in football; and yes it happens.That doesn’t mean Ajax haven’t improved from the way they started the season. Yes the team is pretty poor no doubt but they’re better compared to how they started the season.

This is different from what is happening to Ajax at the moment, basically Ajax's performance is in a very bad state, so their defeat against a weak team indicates that the Ajax team is really getting worse.
If we talk about defeats by top teams against weak teams in football, it is normal, but basically the Ajax team's performance is very bad and the defeat against a 3rd division team is a benchmark that how bad the Ajax team is at maintaining its consistency even though this team is struggling. in their downturn and I think they have recovered from the downturn they experienced at the start of the season but losing the possibility of winning the title would certainly be a bad thing for the team.

Ajax got defeated by a 3rd division team. Well it sounds crazy though but it’s never the least expected especially as Bayern Munich were also defeated in the German Cup by a 3rd division team.

Ajax got defeated by a 3rd division team. Well it sounds crazy though but it’s never the least expected especially as Bayern Munich were also defeated in the German Cup by a 3rd division team. Ajax is facing rebuilding and being eliminated from this competition at this point is kind of better. This is to enable them focus more on better competitions e.g the UEL and try to come up on the league’s standing.

 The match was full of drama and Ajax no doubt gave in their best but they were quite unlucky. So I feel it shouldn’t be much a big deal, they can forge ahead of this defeat.A victory in that game would had given then a boost in morale towards the chase for the top four in the Eredivisie League but all hope is not lost yet, they should put themselves together and try to do better so as to secure a spot in the UCL.

There is no doubt this was shocking defeat but still this is not happening first time in soccer history because we have long list of defeats like these in many leagues as big giant teams lost to unknown teams with currently, we all know Ajax is having troubling time, and they are trying to rebuild themselves for the better future in Eredivisie so we can expect results like these from them.

This match was played on 21st December for the KNVB Cup round of 32 once USV Hercules were leading by 2–0, but we have some good drama at the end and Ajax able to score two quick goals but injury time goal from the Grotenbreg give them shocking win odds for the USV Hercules @51 at the start of the match.

There is no doubt this was shocking defeat but still this is not happening first time in soccer history because we have long list of defeats like these in many leagues as big giant teams lost to unknown teams with currently, we all know Ajax is having troubling time, and they are trying to rebuild themselves for the better future in Eredivisie so we can expect results like these from them..

It was truly a very surprising result. It wasn't even the final match in the domestic cup. USV Hercules really isn't a team I've ever heard of. I even had difficulty finding their information on the internet. I think this is the most surprising defeat I've had at the start of this year or this season in football. I watched several matches with results that were completely unpredictable but not as surprising as Ajax's defeat to a third division team in their league.

Most teams do not care about cup matches. I think Ajax is one of them. Ajax is normally a much higher quality team than Hercules, but they may have had to face this painful result because they did not care much in the Cup match. While they were eliminated from the cup, Hercules had already gone to celebrate a victory.

USV Hercules are an amateur league team you know so it was really unbelievable that Ajax lost to them.  

Now they’re at the conference cup and I believe they’ll fight to win that in order to avoid whatever maybe at the end of the tournament the Eredivise league. They’ve to maintain top performance and be consistent in their winning streaks,  they have to continue with that form so as to qualify for the UCL next season.

This is really confusing because most of the teams want to win cups so it's domestic or other no matter right now Ajax is facing troubling time so if they are going to have win in Conference Cup this could be good for their future and teams confidence as well because this win will give them good booster and things will be good for the next season even currently nothing is predictable how they will play in this cup and what will be result, but they need to give their best with their run in Eredivisie is also good, and they can achieve some good results in coming days which will increase their performance and consistency which is surely going to help them for having better results in near the end of this season.

But why would they not care about cup matches when we are talking about the most important domestic cup and at the same time we are talking about professional soccer players who have been dreaming about winning titles for their whole lives? I don't buy this story because I read that quite often that players would not care about winning the cup. I understand that in the Premier League there are several cups and some of them not as important as the FA Cup, but this one cup in the Netherlands is the most important cup there is. I don't understand why the players wouldn't care.

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Most teams do not care about cup matches. I think Ajax is one of them. Ajax is normally a much higher quality team than Hercules, but they may have had to face this painful result because they did not care much in the Cup match. While they were eliminated from the cup, Hercules had already gone to celebrate a victory.

Yes except for the games against Heerenveen and Vitesse Arnheim, all of the games were won by narrow means indeed. That is quite uncommon for Ajax Amsterdam as they are known for beating their opponents big time in the Eredivisie. But I think they appreciate every positive result regardless of whether it was close or not. But what I did not expect was the loss in the KNVB Cup against USVB Hercules. They lost a backdoor to get into the Europa League if they can't make it through their domestic league.

In my opinion he is looking at Manchester United as a great challenge that if he manages to overcome and obtain good results, then this would make him greatly increase his CV as a coach, until today the relevant team he coached was Ajax who He won the Eredivisie many times, at Bayern he was coach of the B team, that doesn't count much. while now he has a great chance to shine in a big team, unfortunately he is making some very bad decisions, he sent Ronaldo and De Gea away and went to hire goalkeepers who make mistakes that De Gea didn't make, he went to put a striker who played many games in the premier league and didn't score a goal. These errors have not been corrected on his part. We'll see when the transfer market opens if he will make good hires this time

about ajax, I think that currently they are doing well, they have no chance of becoming champions this season, but they still have a chance, even if it is a very small chance of finishing in position 3 or 4, I highly doubt that managed to finish in position number 2, but it is still not impossible, all they need to do is get good players on the market, if they don't sign good players then they risk finishing in position 5 and next season they will also be in a terrible position , they won't win anything next season if they don't sign now

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In my opinion, the most interesting game in the next round will be Twente's game against AZ, both teams are in a good position in the table and with some comfort, but there is only a difference of 1 point between both teams and both teams should be looking at the third position, if one of the teams wins that game, then they will be further away from the other, which would cause the other team to start playing under pressure. In my opinion, twente will come into this game as favorites to win, they are better than AZ in my opinion, but AZ should not be underestimated, they could get a draw in this game, both teams only managed to get 2 wins in the last 5 games. It will be interesting to see what the outcome of this game will be.

Yes except for the games against Heerenveen and Vitesse Arnheim, all of the games were won by narrow means indeed. That is quite uncommon for Ajax Amsterdam as they are known for beating their opponents big time in the Eredivisie. But I think they appreciate every positive result regardless of whether it was close or not. But what I did not expect was the loss in the KNVB Cup against USVB Hercules. They lost a backdoor to get into the Europa League if they can't make it through their domestic league.