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December 28, 2023, 04:14:36 PM

After the break in 17th round we are going to have few interesting matches now, with Twente is going to host AZ Alkmaar and G A Eagles are going to host Ajax which are surely important matches for the staying at the top spots as well because third and fourth spots teams surely going to lose points and in case of win Ajax is going to have some cut in deficit which will keep their hopes alive for jumping, and we also know history of these medicor teams mostly they lost points near the end of the season which give good benefit to the top ranks teams.

AZ Alkmaar is having good time, but their squad is not strong enough like Ajax which keep them at this level, and they will be gone down and have to stay at fifth spot with things can take change in coming weeks.
AZ Alkmaar returning from break will be having some crazy fixtures so also Ajax. And currently Ajax who started poorly have been on fire recently, With this, we can tell that Ajax would probably overthrow Az Alkmaar who seems shaky already. In squad comparism, Ajax have a better squad and would pose a tight and nice challenge.

 Ajax would sure get to 4th place soon, but they must be able to maintain it and make sure they get an european spot next season, it would be very lovely to have them in the UCL again and I can't wait to see how good they'll be in the UCL, in this new era, during the time of Eric Ten Hag, they did pretty in the UCL. Well I'm very impressed with their new found form and I hope they'll hang on with consistency to make partaking in the UCL next season a reality.
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December 27, 2023, 11:20:40 AM

 They’re some points far from AZ Alkmaar and I believe with this current tempo which could even be increased, they’ll sure overtake AZ Alkmaar. What’s required of this team is more motivation and concentration and steadfastness from the coach. Kudos to the team and also kudos to the board for believing in the coach and that the project at hand would be a success this season.

Currently we don't know how Ajax will perform for the next half season because the Eredivise is currently on New Year's holidays. The next opening match will be on January 13 2024 and there will be AZ Alkmaar vs Twente and Ajax vs Go Ahead matches. I am waiting for these two matches because if in the Az Alkmaar vs Twente match one of the teams loses then Ajax will narrow the points gap with them. Go Ahead Eagles are not a bad team but I don't think they are on the same level as Ajax. And this match will also prove whether Ajax has regained its best performance or not.
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December 27, 2023, 05:38:22 AM
The weirdest thing is that, if somehow United fires ETH, then Ajax is looking bad enough that they could still get him, and that means if they do that then there is a possibility that he could do well here once again.

I mean maybe he is a good manager for Eredevise but not premier league, if that's the case then he would be great and logical to keep him here and just give him a chance to keep it going and do nothing else about it. I get that it is not going to be all that simple to handle it, but we should definitely consider him doing something right if he is still getting a lot of attention. I believe that the best thing to do with him would be something that would make sense for him to just get a job that he knows he is capable of doing.
Even I agree with your few points, but now situation is interesting every time when we have time for the sacking of Ten Hag at Manchester United, they have done magic and have some more time for giving better results like we have few hours back against Aston Villa which is big win for them and now most chances he can still stay here for the better results in this season.

Even I am also feeling Ten Hag is having not better chance in Premier League and if he can take back his job with Ajax then surely this combination can bring impressive results, and they can do good in next season within this season their chances could be high for jumping into top three which could have allowed them for having Champions League qualification spot.
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December 27, 2023, 04:15:58 AM

The process that Ajax has gone through is very cool this season and their coach is also very strong, he can raise the mentality of the players to rise from the bottom of the standings and are now in fifth place in the standings, of course the target of entering the UCL league next season is somewhat impossible so their target is the most realistic it entered the European league, because securing tickets to the European competition was already a good achievement considering the destruction of the team's performance this season.

With a difference of 8 points from Az Alkmaar, I think Ajax, with its current development, still has hope of overtaking Az Alkmaar, because I'm not sure Alkmaar will be consistent, they will definitely make some mistakes in big matches like the previous match against PSV. they lost badly 4-0.
Yes, we can’t say less of this Ajax side, they started the season on a very poor note but against all odds got to regain their form and still maintain European football and in the league now struggling for European competition next season. This is worthy of applauds and commendation. And I hope they achieve their aim this season, cause i can't wait to see them in the UCL tournament once again.

 They’re some points far from AZ Alkmaar and I believe with this current tempo which could even be increased, they’ll sure overtake AZ Alkmaar. What’s required of this team is more motivation and concentration and steadfastness from the coach. Kudos to the team and also kudos to the board for believing in the coach and that the project at hand would be a success this season.
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December 26, 2023, 02:01:22 PM
The weirdest thing is that, if somehow United fires ETH, then Ajax is looking bad enough that they could still get him, and that means if they do that then there is a possibility that he could do well here once again.

I mean maybe he is a good manager for Eredevise but not premier league, if that's the case then he would be great and logical to keep him here and just give him a chance to keep it going and do nothing else about it. I get that it is not going to be all that simple to handle it, but we should definitely consider him doing something right if he is still getting a lot of attention. I believe that the best thing to do with him would be something that would make sense for him to just get a job that he knows he is capable of doing.
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December 26, 2023, 01:51:42 PM
I think we don't have topic about KNVB cup, so will post here. Huge upset happened today. Ajax got kicked out by 4th division (!!!) club USV Hercules after loss 3:2. I think it's not even professional club. Didn't saw what happened there, Ajax made comeback from 2:0 to 2:2, but Hercules somehow scored 3th goal on additional time.
Other interesting result is that AZ won vs Hardenberg from 3rd division only after extra time.
While best game of round between PSV and Twente got postponed because of waterlogged pitch.

Yesterday when i saw that i can believe that result, also i go and check the Hercules team, and man..... i dont know they were even amateurs, and also i learn some about the netherlands lower leagues in the reserach.

Is a good time to see a Ten Hag return? He is doing bad in Manchester right now.
Ten Hag was not successful at Manchester United, but I think it would be better if he returned to his former team. A league he knows, a team he knows. The Premier League was too difficult for Ten Hag. Also, Manchester United is a difficult team to manage. It might make sense for him to return when Ajax is going bad.
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December 26, 2023, 01:47:08 PM
Ajax who started the season very poorly with conceding so many goals and not having much win ratios, But over the past 2 months we can see how this team has risen so well from below average to sitting in 5th position which shows how much work this coach has put in this team, he really tried in bringing the best out of his boys and now they're performing as expected and I believe they'll maintain their good form and finish in a better spot on the standings, even though they don't come close to winning the tournament.

 Yes, the UCL spot might be out of reach but they’re trying so hard to get an European qualification and that’s achievable especially with their wide range of experience , AZ Alkmaar won’t be a match to this Ajax as they’ll sure slip and Ajax could get serious and pick their spot.
Ajax got knock-out from the European league, not because they don't have the experience, is due to their poor performance this season. Ajax is the perfect illustration for all hope is not lost because even in their worst form, they didn't give up and they kept pressuring for good results and they finally achieved what they have been intending to strive. They're out of the relegation zone and bounce back to streak winnings, appreciation to the players who suffered in poor form but they're building back to strengthened the club. We know how how popular Ajax have become over the years and this year is definitely not an option.
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December 26, 2023, 01:14:09 PM
Ajax as doing right now most chances they will be able to jump at the third spot of the league table and others have to suffer for their inconsistency and lack of quality which need at the top level Ajax having the worst start but now as we are heading for the second half things are coming back normal and their performance is also back their level which will help them for going through even now it's not time to Challenge PSV and Feyenoord, but now they can still have fair chance for staying at the top level.
Even so, Twente and Alkmaar currently have points that are still far enough away for Ajax to catch up. AZ Alkmaar with 33 points and Ajax with 25 points. This means they are still 8 points different from fourth place. Of course it is true as you said that chasing 8 points is not difficult for Ajax if they perform like the previous few matches. However, we also hope that Twente and Az Alkmaar will appear inconsistent in the next few matches.
After the break in 17th round we are going to have few interesting matches now, with Twente is going to host AZ Alkmaar and G A Eagles are going to host Ajax which are surely important matches for the staying at the top spots as well because third and fourth spots teams surely going to lose points and in case of win Ajax is going to have some cut in deficit which will keep their hopes alive for jumping, and we also know history of these medicor teams mostly they lost points near the end of the season which give good benefit to the top ranks teams.

AZ Alkmaar is having good time, but their squad is not strong enough like Ajax which keep them at this level, and they will be gone down and have to stay at fifth spot with things can take change in coming weeks.
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December 26, 2023, 10:17:39 AM

This is a notable problem here in Eredivisie as we have just three top teams those can go consistently for long run, all others having inconsistency and poor quality as well which hurt them badly in long run with this mostly these teams allow opponents to clear their ways for going through.

Ajax as doing right now most chances they will be able to jump at the third spot of the league table and others have to suffer for their inconsistency and lack of quality which need at the top level Ajax having the worst start but now as we are heading for the second half things are coming back normal and their performance is also back their level which will help them for going through even now it's not time to Challenge PSV and Feyenoord, but now they can still have fair chance for staying at the top level.
The current situation in the dutch league is one that the Bundesliga was in seasons before now that Leverkusen have come into light. It's definitely pretty much boring to know that a league will always wrap up with thesame set of teams being at the top spot. It just doesn't bring the fun to it. The league is one that really can't be compared to other leagues in that regard.

 Although the changes may not happen at a great level as in the EPL, Serie A and Bundesliga but at least, let there be a little switch. The league is pretty much less competitive. There are some already predictable fixtures which sure doesn't work for other leagues. The tougher a league gets to be, the more the fans attention are drawn to their style of play too. They've just got to step up, especially the rising teams, it's in their hands to make the difference we seek.
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December 26, 2023, 02:49:42 AM

Ajax as doing right now most chances they will be able to jump at the third spot of the league table and others have to suffer for their inconsistency and lack of quality which need at the top level Ajax having the worst start but now as we are heading for the second half things are coming back normal and their performance is also back their level which will help them for going through even now it's not time to Challenge PSV and Feyenoord, but now they can still have fair chance for staying at the top level.

Even so, Twente and Alkmaar currently have points that are still far enough away for Ajax to catch up. AZ Alkmaar with 33 points and Ajax with 25 points. This means they are still 8 points different from fourth place. Of course it is true as you said that chasing 8 points is not difficult for Ajax if they perform like the previous few matches. However, we also hope that Twente and Az Alkmaar will appear inconsistent in the next few matches.
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December 26, 2023, 01:21:53 AM
Ajax is surely on good recovery and this is good break for them which will help them for having better strategy for the next half of this season with now Conference league is also good chance for them to bring some confidence as well with most chances I have feeling they will be touch top four in coming weeks with AZ Alkmaar and Twente both are losing points which will help them.
Some of these teams have no balance, win today and lose tomorrow, just unpredictable to start scouting on these clubs. Ajax that was close to the relegation zone in the early starts of the season, now tell me, how did they manage to escape and grab significant positions on the table? I called it recovery and consistency because that's the only way to keep oneself at the top this season. Ajax started on the wrong foot and now they're recovery gradually and everything will become normal for the club once they're able to bounce back to winning ways.
This is a notable problem here in Eredivisie as we have just three top teams those can go consistently for long run, all others having inconsistency and poor quality as well which hurt them badly in long run with this mostly these teams allow opponents to clear their ways for going through.

Ajax as doing right now most chances they will be able to jump at the third spot of the league table and others have to suffer for their inconsistency and lack of quality which need at the top level Ajax having the worst start but now as we are heading for the second half things are coming back normal and their performance is also back their level which will help them for going through even now it's not time to Challenge PSV and Feyenoord, but now they can still have fair chance for staying at the top level.
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December 25, 2023, 09:59:40 PM
Ajax is surely on good recovery and this is good break for them which will help them for having better strategy for the next half of this season with now Conference league is also good chance for them to bring some confidence as well with most chances I have feeling they will be touch top four in coming weeks with AZ Alkmaar and Twente both are losing points which will help them.
Some of these teams have no balance, win today and lose tomorrow, just unpredictable to start scouting on these clubs. Ajax that was close to the relegation zone in the early starts of the season, now tell me, how did they manage to escape and grab significant positions on the table? I called it recovery and consistency because that's the only way to keep oneself at the top this season. Ajax started on the wrong foot and now they're recovery gradually and everything will become normal for the club once they're able to bounce back to winning ways.
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December 25, 2023, 06:10:23 PM
Ajax who started the season very poorly with conceding so many goals and not having much win ratios, But over the past 2 months we can see how this team has risen so well from below average to sitting in 5th position which shows how much work this coach has put in this team, he really tried in bringing the best out of his boys and now they're performing as expected and I believe they'll maintain their good form and finish in a better spot on the standings, even though they don't come close to winning the tournament.

 Yes, the UCL spot might be out of reach but they’re trying so hard to get an European qualification and that’s achievable especially with their wide range of experience , AZ Alkmaar won’t be a match to this Ajax as they’ll sure slip and Ajax could get serious and pick their spot.

I was perplexed when I saw how this heavy weight from the Eredivise was doing during the early season. But now the season is over for them in terms of the title and the best they can try is to find their spot somewhere in the top four. But this phase of weakness demonstrates that it will be brutally punished by a team like PSV Eindhoven. They have really made clear from day 1 that such a catastrophic failure will end the season early for Ajax Amsterdam in respect of the title race. 23 points and 18 games to go is impossible to make up for. I didn't see it often that the season in a domestic league essentially had its title winner after 16 games. Tongue
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December 25, 2023, 09:29:50 AM

The process that Ajax has gone through is very cool this season and their coach is also very strong, he can raise the mentality of the players to rise from the bottom of the standings and are now in fifth place in the standings, of course the target of entering the UCL league next season is somewhat impossible so their target is the most realistic it entered the European league, because securing tickets to the European competition was already a good achievement considering the destruction of the team's performance this season.

With a difference of 8 points from Az Alkmaar, I think Ajax, with its current development, still has hope of overtaking Az Alkmaar, because I'm not sure Alkmaar will be consistent, they will definitely make some mistakes in big matches like the previous match against PSV. they lost badly 4-0.
Ajax have not been at their best performances but they've definitely been winning games and have been consistent to it. Definitely a coach has his own impact in a team, once the head is faulty, there'll always be loopholes. It means a lot for a team to get victorious consecutively in a row and for Ajax, that's caused a gradual improvement regardless not doubting that they still have to put in more work. They've got players no doubt but the squad needs to be better, Ajax is a team better than a narrow win, at the moment though, finding the right player who's top and ready in all areas to give that competitive capacity in both the domestic league and the European leagues will be hard.

 Every team won't want to loose their kept men and every player that's be free are the ones that weren't so solid for the team. It's quite expensive to get for a team a high valued player no doubt and Ajax management may not likely be up to the task and it's going to be unsafe to settle for a less standard player. Their winning consistency is good but they just have to find a way to stop the wins from occuring through a narrow means. The coach is good at what he does but he has to improve himself and the team too, once all the necessary characteristics needed are in place, then it'll be an easy ride for Ajax.
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December 24, 2023, 09:48:19 AM

The process that Ajax has gone through is very cool this season and their coach is also very strong, he can raise the mentality of the players to rise from the bottom of the standings and are now in fifth place in the standings, of course the target of entering the UCL league next season is somewhat impossible so their target is the most realistic it entered the European league, because securing tickets to the European competition was already a good achievement considering the destruction of the team's performance this season.

With a difference of 8 points from Az Alkmaar, I think Ajax, with its current development, still has hope of overtaking Az Alkmaar, because I'm not sure Alkmaar will be consistent, they will definitely make some mistakes in big matches like the previous match against PSV. they lost badly 4-0.
Ajax who started the season very poorly with conceding so many goals and not having much win ratios, But over the past 2 months we can see how this team has risen so well from below average to sitting in 5th position which shows how much work this coach has put in this team, he really tried in bringing the best out of his boys and now they're performing as expected and I believe they'll maintain their good form and finish in a better spot on the standings, even though they don't come close to winning the tournament.

 Yes, the UCL spot might be out of reach but they’re trying so hard to get an European qualification and that’s achievable especially with their wide range of experience , AZ Alkmaar won’t be a match to this Ajax as they’ll sure slip and Ajax could get serious and pick their spot.
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December 24, 2023, 03:43:22 AM
Ajax is surely on good recovery and this is good break for them which will help them for having better strategy for the next half of this season with now Conference league is also good chance for them to bring some confidence as well with most chances I have feeling they will be touch top four in coming weeks with AZ Alkmaar and Twente both are losing points which will help them.

Ajax is still 8 points behind Az Alkmaar in fourth place. This means they have to win some games and AZ Alkmaar lose three games so that Ajax can collect 9 points more than Az Alkmaar. I don't know how the Eredivise will be in a full season but I think it is quite a difficult mission if Az Alkmaar or Twente are able to play well enough. I am very excited to watch the next game in the Eredivise and look forward to Ajax at the end of this season.
The process that Ajax has gone through is very cool this season and their coach is also very strong, he can raise the mentality of the players to rise from the bottom of the standings and are now in fifth place in the standings, of course the target of entering the UCL league next season is somewhat impossible so their target is the most realistic it entered the European league, because securing tickets to the European competition was already a good achievement considering the destruction of the team's performance this season.

With a difference of 8 points from Az Alkmaar, I think Ajax, with its current development, still has hope of overtaking Az Alkmaar, because I'm not sure Alkmaar will be consistent, they will definitely make some mistakes in big matches like the previous match against PSV. they lost badly 4-0.
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December 24, 2023, 03:28:58 AM
Ajax is surely on good recovery and this is good break for them which will help them for having better strategy for the next half of this season with now Conference league is also good chance for them to bring some confidence as well with most chances I have feeling they will be touch top four in coming weeks with AZ Alkmaar and Twente both are losing points which will help them.

Ajax is still 8 points behind Az Alkmaar in fourth place. This means they have to win some games and AZ Alkmaar lose three games so that Ajax can collect 9 points more than Az Alkmaar. I don't know how the Eredivise will be in a full season but I think it is quite a difficult mission if Az Alkmaar or Twente are able to play well enough. I am very excited to watch the next game in the Eredivise and look forward to Ajax at the end of this season.
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December 23, 2023, 05:51:06 PM
Man i completely forgot Eredivisie alongside Bundesliga stop the league and make a winter break long, so sad.

Well for ajax i think is a good rest to calm down and start to rebuild (again) the team, and like i mention in my lat post here, today Manchester United lose again, so Ten Hag can be displaced more sooner than later.
Ajax is surely on good recovery and this is good break for them which will help them for having better strategy for the next half of this season with now Conference league is also good chance for them to bring some confidence as well with most chances I have feeling they will be touch top four in coming weeks with AZ Alkmaar and Twente both are losing points which will help them.
Erik ten Hag is now surely most favorite candidate for losing his job from coaching in English Premier League because his performance is unpredictable and things are already from bad to worse which is not acceptable for the fans and management as well I was expecting after the match of Liverpool, but draw give him one more chance but now defeat against West Ham is surely brought some pressure which will ended with the defeat against Aston Villa.
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December 23, 2023, 12:24:39 PM
Man i completely forgot Eredivisie alongside Bundesliga stop the league and make a winter break long, so sad.

Well for ajax i think is a good rest to calm down and start to rebuild (again) the team, and like i mention in my lat post here, today Manchester United lose again, so Ten Hag can be displaced more sooner than later.
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December 23, 2023, 08:39:08 AM

Agreed as they are having 16 matches and already scored 56 goals with concede only 6 which is giving all review how things are going for them into league in this season they are complete package for staying at the top of the league table and having one of the best end for them difference of goals is 50 with second spotted Feyenoord having 38 which is also not bad but after just 16 matches statics like these are completely showing aggressive and tough they are.

They have knock out match against Borussia Dortmund which is currently struggling in Bundesliga and surely this could be not easy game for them hopefully we will have good performance from the PSV, and they will take advantage of this poor run and have chance to jump into last 8 which could be also amazing for them and their league.
PSV are really cruising to victory in their league and you could tell from the way they’ve remained unbeaten in the league and not just that maintained a good goal difference after going half of the season. You can tell from the way they play in the UCL and know that yes they’re a team with quite a good quality this season. The young squad’s composure puts them among one of the many wonders of Europe this season.

 Against Feyenoord they’ve tried to maintain a good gap both in points and goal difference and that sees them already cruising to taking the league title home this season, now they face Dortmund in the Round of 16 of the UCL and I have high hopes they’ll be able to knock out struggling Dortmund and cruise to the UCL last 8, but Dortmund would be a very tough nut to crack, especially when they stand a chance of moving into the next stage.
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